Mizuno JPX923 Forged vs Mizuno Pro 225 Which one is MORE Forgiving?

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Mizuno JPX923 Forged vs Mizuno Pro 225 Which one is MORE Forgiving? and which one would be a better choice. Identical in loft but different in head design technology. One housed very much so at the better player end of the JPX series where the 225's are very much so a Mizuno Pro iron but with the most help possible.
Could you mix them? Which one performs best, which is more forgiving???? Lets find out.
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@Nick-wn5ng Год назад

The review we've all been waiting for. Thank you for this!

@TwatterFreeZone Год назад

For me this is the most eagerly awaited iron comparison video of 2023 and it did not disappoint. Good job Jay👍

@MrAstroquack Год назад

Thanks for the comparison. I am a big fan of Mizuno and have the 225’s. I will now work on avoiding heel strikes and hope for middle or toe strikes.

@emwecker Год назад

appreciate all your testing and commitment to testing equipment, subbed and comment. Enjoy your content and presentation.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Thanks very much 👍

@Beadlesabout88 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing all these pertinent details. I can't wait to try both for myself. 225 look so good..

@scottnathanphoto 8 месяцев назад

This was the best comparison video to date. Going to hit the 225's again, but first impressions were great.

@lkae4 Год назад

Great review. I believe the 923 Forged has a sole slot which helps thin shots, like TaylorMade GI irons but covered up for a cleaner look. Very nice. It also has a slightly wider sole and more offset. Feel seems to be very different. That's may be the deal clincher.

@donkeek8107 Год назад

Thx Jay!! Just what I needed 👍🏻 I am looking for a new set of irons this year and these are on the list (as are Srixon mk2). Maybe the 221 also

@samdevictor7153 Год назад

You do the best analytic club reviews on RU-vid!

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Thanks Sam really appreciate your kind feedback 👍

@gregschulte2953 Год назад

tested all of them and went w/the 225's. mid hc and decent ball striker. as you said, the 225's are very consistent in feel, flight and distance. great tip on toe strikes - my miss is toward the heel and haven't really been punished but will work on keeping it away from the heel.

@erik2446 Год назад

Very helpful, thank you Jay!.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

You're very welcome 👍

@jimhampton5801 Год назад

I ordered the 923s yesterday. I have been testing the 225s and the TM 790s and the ZX5 MK Ii for a couple weeks. Hit the 923 this week and they had slightly better numbers and feel for me than the 225.

@stephenferris7274 Год назад

these videos are so helpful, especially the forgiveness testing, cheers 👍

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Glad you enjoyed them Stephen, if you haven't already done so, don't forget to subscribe 👍

@stephenferris7274 Год назад

@@AskGolfNut already have, keep up the great content Jay.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Thanks for the kind feedback. Live Streams every Monday evening around 19:30 UK Time, feel free to ask any questions you have for me to answer them live 👍

@eldoprdr Год назад

Really looking forward to the HMP vs Forged. Thanks a lot!

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Oh 225 vs HMP! If you want the HMP vs Forged then I guess I better turn the camera back on 😁

@JoeyLeclerc Год назад

@@AskGolfNut As a leftie I sure wish you add the 223 to that test!

@paulbrichta91 Год назад

@@AskGolfNut Yes I too would love to see this comparison! Thanks for all your efforts making these videos

@eldoprdr Год назад

@@AskGolfNut Lol 😂I don’t mean to be demanding, it’s just that nobody tests clubs as thoroughly as you. You da man! (Maybe I need to send you a check in the mail) 😁

@AskGolfNut Год назад

😊 No need to send a cheque in the mail 😊 I've received recently some very kind comments and even some Super Thanks donations to the channel from subscribers wanting to support what I do which has meant the absolute world to me and is so generous and kind. I'll get on with the comparison between the HMP and the Forged as soon as humanly possible and will probably do it at a slightly lower speed say in the mid 80s mph as most have appreciated the test at a speed that they can relate to 👍

@davidm7031 Год назад

Thanks for another great review

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it Dave 👍

@rlbjr Год назад

Great stuff as usual.

@emiliopelaez607 Год назад

I really do like the looks of the 225, they are really beautiful in my opinion. Simple, plain, aesthetics.

@larrymorris9260 Год назад

Great comparison as always Jay. I just wanted to give you a little snippet on my experience with Mizunos. I’m a lefty and a dyed in the wool Mizuno fan. I’ve got the jpx921 hot metals but I’ve always loved the look of blades, so on a whim I bought 5-pw mp20 sel’s. I’m a 15 handicapper and figured I would have major problems hitting them but to mine and my friends surprise I have no problem at all. As a matter of fact I hit them better than my hot metals. I don’t have a logical explanation for this but it’s a fact. I certainly hope this doesn’t go south on me but so far so good. I of course did loose some distance but it made up for it in the tremendous feel of the clubs. This is just a little info to let the lefty mid handicappers like me know that we can hit blades. Thanks for your informative videos.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Generally in my tests the smaller the head the more focus the golfer has on strike pattern. So it's no surprise to me that you've managed to transition quite easily to the forged iron 👍

@sloswingspeed9535 Год назад

For me, besides the impact sound and visual at setup, the shaft selection is most important to optimize performance although Jay fares well with anything ‘close’. Guess he’s shaft agnostic ?…for us mortals, shaft match (fit) then head selection is how most fittings progress. My experience.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

I'm near on totally not shaft sensitive. The way I transition and plane of swing means I'm really only susceptible to lie angle deflection so can use any shaft whatsoever. I have my preferences for feel or likes for weighting but in reality it doesn't matter. 👍

@John-es7zn Год назад

Thank you Jay

@robertbencangey6207 Год назад

I bought a set for my bro a few months ago and he loves them. I’m waiting on the Forged.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

You're a very kind and generous brother 👍

@stevewimmer9758 Год назад

Another quality comparison. I wonder how my 223s would stack up

@hallinn Год назад

So glad that you did this compare between these two clubs. I was going to get fitted for the 225s couple of months ago but decided to wait fore the jpx923 forged. I am going the next week to get fitted but before that I think that the 225s are the favorite because of the looks and somehow I feel like the jpx 923 forged is too much closer to the hot metal pro instead of standing alone between the hot metal and the tour, but I will try them for sure.

@saintcruzin Год назад

There truly is a difference in feel between the cast 923’s and the forged version yet they are so very close in forgiveness. I preferred the copper feel of the 225’s…forgiveness is surprisingly close and hard to go wrong with either of these outstanding clubs..

@mikelanzo9872 Год назад

I settled in the Mizuno Pro 225. Could not be happier. I was around a 20 handicap when I bought them. I am now a 15.4. Could not be happier! Did I say that already… (I am not claiming the HC drop is the clubs BTW - just hard work). The point is, these clubs were advanced enough to grow with me and forgiving enough to live with as a 20HC. Crisp strikes are amazing and encourage you to get the center as the feel is addictive. If I hold game improvement irons now (I.e Maviks or Rogues etc) they feel way to big and offset. The 225s have definitely encouraged me to be a better player and I have risen to that occasion. Would not go back. Love them!!

@jeffyeah4256 Год назад

you shouldn't play 225 with a 15 handicap. Go with game improvement irons for forgiveness

@dgmickley Год назад

If you hit low the 923 HL is awesome. I shoot low to mid 80s. I would love having 225s in the bag but the course wouldn’t.

@mikelanzo9872 Год назад

@@jeffyeah4256 appreciate the comment, but you can’t possibly classify the quality of my iron play or iron striking ability from the handicap . I can land a green almost every time from within 170m. Irons are my strong suit. Driving and short game are where I drop shots. There are multiple paths to a 15 handicap. I often 3 putt, or bum a chip. If I am shooting 15 over and take the 3 putts and double chip shots out of the score on average I save 9+ shots a round (just converting 3 putts to 2 putts). That has nothing to do with my iron play and that would put me at a handicap of 6. The 225s are ideal for my game and I would not change them for anything. They were also fitted by Mizuno. I was originally looking at JPX, but the fitter put me in a 225 as I struck them best (by far) and he said they would also grow with me better.

@mbrackmann8 Год назад

@@jeffyeah4256 recommending game improvements to a 15 without knowing how they strike their irons is ridiculous. Not everyone needs game improvement irons and not everyone WANTS game improvement irons.

@jeffyeah4256 Год назад

@@mbrackmann8 I'm a scratch golfer that pops it 300 plus yards..So I think I know..Wanting and needing are 2 different things. 15 handicap, I can figure out easily where it is going wrong. He can't flight it high enough and needs distance/height. Therefore I suggest going with a a jpx923...It's always the golfer's ego that gets in the way to IMPROVE his score.

@Fogeljazz Год назад

Switched from my trusty JPX 825 Pro Forged to Mizuno Pro 225 last season. I have to say the 225's are remarkable. Fantastic irons, long and forgiving but with great feel and feedback. Perfect for me at around index 8 and a tendency to hit my irons on the thin side 🤣

@bobbybax2360 Год назад

Made the exact same switch.

@alysgolfstudio567 Год назад

As a leftie the 225 is not an option so I tested the mizuno forged against a few others including my current gamer the Pxg gen 5 p. The latter won out for three reasons- no odd flier like i got with the jpx. Equally less drop off on mishits. Second much better feel. Third shaft options were better and more suitable and I tried three different shafts in the mizuno. Goes to show how clubs are very personal.

@MrMatthew262 Год назад

The gen 5 P’s have to be more forgiving just because of its sheer size. I found the 923 forged to almost look like a tour iron in comparison. The forged have a thud like sound and feel compared to the pxg which is very soft.

@petegalindez9961 Год назад

As always, great review….your off center hits are your bread and butter and set you apart from the rest. And, you like Mizunos! Interesting the two had the same lie (right?) but the JPX was struck more toe down by almost 2 degrees over the 225…why do you think that is? I have the 923 HMP and looking to get something smaller…I played a combo set of MP69/59s back in the day and now back to Mizuno. Lost some distance over the years after two hip replacements (53 years old), so need more distance. Thought the HMP would be a win-win with a bigger head providing more forgiveness, but I strike my T100S irons much more consistent and love the smaller head…so, looking at the 225 or JPX 923 Forged…thanks for this.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Unfortunately the latter media samples came in as is where as the Pro heads came in at 2 degrees Upright from Std (my preferred spec). So ignore the lie angle as it's fairly wrong 😊

@barryhill6482 11 месяцев назад

Really liking the 225. Think I’ll go and hit the 7i at Edwin Watts. There is one in Corpus!

@AskGolfNut 11 месяцев назад

Why not 👍 let me know how you get on 👍

@flogrown2014 Год назад

I have the pro 223 and love them. Tried the 225s tonight and they are so good I’m actually doing a combo with them. And my 223s

@toddcline7197 Год назад

Jay love your attention detail especially on Mizuno products and trust your opinion. Can you speak to why u did not get along with 223 with the Modus 105?

@AskGolfNut Год назад

At initial testing it was a bloomin mystery. Since then I've spent some time with it, visited back and forth and managed to work a, way round it. To this day it has been the shaft that I have been sensitive to, happy that I've conquered it now 😊

@davidR9410 11 месяцев назад

Looking to replace my mp20 hmb irons in the near future and I was between these two options. They seem so close in performance that I’ll just go with the better looking option (225).

@nielsaxelsson Год назад

Yessss! Please do HMP/225 85 mph 👍😺

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Done already, just need to edit it 😊 that takes the time 😊

@allahalibaba9063 Год назад

Love this comparison between these two irons...What shaft and flex were you useing Jay??? Going to get fit soon for one of these irons....Thanks...

@AskGolfNut Год назад

KBS $ Taper Stiff in the Forged and PX IO 5.5 in the 225s. Not shaft sensitive so makes no difference to me what shaft I have 👍 will no doubt do another video on it soon 😊👍

@banditbaker1675 Год назад

Thanks for these H2H comparison vids MrGolfNut, they are really helpful in guiding us around the vast array of Mizuno Iron variants👍👍 PS as an aside for most of my golfing days I have been a low-heel striker (with a plentiful supply of shanks thrown in). So in desperation 18 months ago I did lots of work with a local Pro to move my strike away from the heel. I now live in the toe most of the time with the occasional low-heel strike thrown in for old times. So the only place that I never-ever use is the damned middle of the club, it must be wonderful to be a decent ball striker!!!!!!!

@AskGolfNut Год назад

All comes with a bucket load of practice and working on the right things. Keep the work up with your pro and train those repeatable actions into the swing. Glad you enjoyed the video 👍

@banditbaker1675 Год назад

@@AskGolfNut 👍👍

@angunelli451 6 месяцев назад

Great review as always Jay. I am currently playing Honma TR20P. I've been playing them for about three years and quite like them. However, I am in the process of looking to change them up. I do find them a little bit large but the forged feel is quite nice. I'm getting a little bit older and my swing speed is down to under 90 now but I'm still maintaining slightly better than eight index at age 68. Do you have any experience in comparing the Mizuno 225 versus the TR20P? I think I'm going to wait for the new Mizuno 245 to come out I would assume there will be something just slightly better than the current 225s. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

@yannikheinz5697 Год назад

I tested yesterday as well both. I had too little spin with the 225 so the ball did not come to rest fast enough. With the JPX923 it was perfect! Slow Swinger 80mph 7i, got the KBS C-Taper Light in Stiff

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Hi Yannik, don't feel too bad about your swing speed, you aren't that slow. I've custom fitted people swinging a 7i in the 50's.....👍

@saintcruzin Год назад

I’ve been playing Golf for…decades and upper single digits. I’ve never hit a better club then the 225’s. The copper inlay made the difference. I’m really surprised at how forgiving the 225’s are. Clubs are just improving with time..

@FinancialFreebo Год назад

I just bought a set TODAY!!! I can't wait to hit a bucket at the range tomorr!!

@MrVonders Год назад

Dispersion is unreal. You can hit it across the face but it goes the same carry. And they look like blades

@saintcruzin Год назад

@@MrVonders They maneuver easily like blades and the feel is 95% blade. Technology is helping us all…

@robertbencangey6207 Год назад

Thinking about it a bit more I’d say the 225 is great Mizuno marketing to label it MP, but it’s really not. No pro plays a full set of hollow irons, but tons of them play full sets of cavity backs. Similar marketing to the the HM “Pro”, but at least it’s in the correct lineup.

@vladimirhudacek7295 Год назад

Hi, Great review!!! Would it be possible to do a review of P770 vs PRO 225?

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Could well do 👍

@vladimirhudacek7295 Год назад

👌 Perfect ! Thanks. I was very surprised by your review of the P770, how great the New model is.

@chook3240 Год назад

I too would be interested, also if you had to sidestep/upgrade comparison from a P770 to a Mizuno iron what would it be?

@robbusheay4258 Год назад

Thanks.........I have been a toe striker all of my life..........lol..........doesn't matter what I do..........so JPX 923 forged for me !!!!!!!

@lorimeyers3839 Год назад

Question. I own 922 Forged irons. The 923 Forged 4-6 irons are the same loft as the 921 before dropping to 30* instead of 31* with my 921 forged, etc. How much more ball speed and/or distance would I get with a 923 forged? Maybe 1mph and a yard or two difference? The 923s look much nicer than the forged, but I’m completely content with my 921 6-9 irons. Just don’t think it’s worth justifying spending massive amounts of money on a new model when I’m already happy with what I have. Lol. Tend to make that mistake over and over again for some reason 🤔😆 And yes, the slotted 4-7 irons in the JPX Forged irons feel springier, faster and a tad bit firmer in my opinion. Not too firm, but noticeably different.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

In all honesty if you are coming from the 921 already you probably won't see a huge difference in performance. If you were coming from say the 900s then yes. So aesthetics can be a justification but if its based on performance I would have to say it would probably be negligible 👍

@lorimeyers3839 Год назад

@@AskGolfNut I appreciate the feedback. It’s honestly, from what I’ve seen and read, not worth it. 🤙🏻

@SteveSmith-zz4ih Год назад

Question - are Mizuno still making their iron a couple of Deg's flatter, many Japanese oem's did this years ago. Just wondering have they lifted their game (bad pun)

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Great pun 😊 yes over the years they have increased their lie angle to within as little as 0.5 of a degree in lie compared to others 👍

@tomvankamperdijk4392 Год назад

The outcome is not different to the 921 forged against the MP 225. Currently gaming the 921forged I don't really see the need to upgrade

@keytrader7299 11 месяцев назад

Demo straight the back bend needed

@user-do8mw4oy8s Год назад

Can you do 923 Tour vs pro?

@dkvikingkd233 9 месяцев назад

Thinning it is preferable to fatting it on long shots, but around the greens I'm not so sure..?

@AskGolfNut 9 месяцев назад

Its a measure of extremes, if one miss hits vertically the same amount lets say 13mm for a rounded half inch, you'll get away with the low on the face as a measure of terrible more than the fat from a variety of lies. Don't get me wrong, its still not great but as a general rule its a true as the toe miss is generally much more helpful than the heel. 👍

@bryanlloyd6924 Год назад

So you believe the 923 Forged is more forgiving than the MP 225?

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Hi Bryan, yes with multiple tests the JPX923 Forged is more forgiving than the Pro 225, especially off toe strikes 👍

@ghylock1 5 месяцев назад

I would love to see this w/ tape covering the club head.

@AskGolfNut 5 месяцев назад

Why would you like to see the clubs with tape on them? 👍🏻

@ghylock1 5 месяцев назад

@@AskGolfNut First off, I enjoy your videos. I think we all have expectations that a player's club will be softer and sound better than a game improvement iron and that could cloud our judgements. It would be interesting to remove that from the equation.

@AskGolfNut 5 месяцев назад

Hi sorry its me being silly, I'm not certain why tape (which kind of tape) applied to the club face would show any material findings?? Again me not being able to understand rather than you explaining 👍🏻

@christopher2818 3 месяца назад

@@AskGolfNut perhaps he's referring to a blind test, where ones preconceptions about sound and feel are removed from the equation, so that one is left with more reliable test results concerning how they truly differ in sound and feel.

@anttisavolainen547 Год назад

Hellsinki here again!

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Hello again and welcome back 👍

@robertbencangey6207 Год назад

Interesting. I thought the 225 felt more hollow and the forged felt more solid? Also thought the forged felt closer to the 221 in feel compared to the 225. I think the true bridge iron in the MP line is the 223 not the 225. Top line also appeared thicker in the 225 compared to the forged. If I was going MP it would be the 221 first and then the 223.

@myroseaccount Год назад

Which one would you say is the more forgiving. Say game improver - 18 Handicap area

@AskGolfNut Год назад

What's your strike pattern for good shots and for miss strikes?

@wasteland1212 Год назад

In your opinion, Which one has more feel and forgiveness, MP225 vs. T200

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Ooooo, that's a tricky one. I'll have to see if I can get the Titleist irons to do a comparative test 👍

@robertbencangey6207 Год назад

I’m not a fan of the feel of the new t200. I thought the prior model had better feel. I’d go 225 in that comparison.

@iansoady8113 Год назад

As a Mizuno super fan and in the market to replace my 825 forged iorns was excited to see this video - but it all came crashing down when when I see the 225 doesn't come in left hand 😞 come on Mizuno stop discriminating against us lefties!

@kahunastev Год назад

I found out from my fitter that the JPX 923 Hot Metal High Lofts (HL's) don't come in left hand either! What a let down. I ordered the 923 regular HM with dynamic 300 95R shafts, and so far they carry about 10-15 yards farther than any Callaway or Ping graphite shafted irons in my collection. Here's hoping I can flight them high enough to hold the green on the approach shots.

@rl6210 9 месяцев назад

Shafts are completely different - need to use the same for a valid comparison

@AskGolfNut 9 месяцев назад

Luckily I'm not shaft sensitive and so aren't affected at all by any bend profile differences, thus I'm able to compare with different shafts. I've done many videos in the past on my channel showcasing this so viewers can visably see that shaft has not effect on me 👍🏻 The vast vast majority of golfers are very much so affected by shaft 👍🏻

@FinancialFreebo Год назад

Jay, you should stand 1-2 golf balls closer to the ball...

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Not sure how much more than 2 degrees Upright I'd be then 😊 I've played around with my stance and posture over the years and ashtrays return to my current. I just find it more comfortable the way I stand and am the most consistent over time with it. I'm a great believer in this hugely individualistic game that if its not broke don't fix it 😊👍

@FinancialFreebo Год назад

@@AskGolfNut agreed. There are teaching standards and then 99% of us don't exactly fit the standard!!

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Greatest thing about not teaching to the book is to understand and allow your teaching methods to go way beyond pictures and work with physics and bio-mechanics instead. There is always an acceptable spectrum and as long as the golfer is in between the needle, work with the golfer not against.... It improves them faster and they enjoy the process of getting better whilst not being broken doing it 👍

@MrMatthew262 Год назад

In what ways is the forged different or better than the HMP? I’m looking for something with more feel and sleeker than the HMP and I’m LH. I find the HMP to be a marshmallow feeling that’s hard to tell where I hit it.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Have you tried the 223's? 👍

@MrMatthew262 Год назад

@@AskGolfNut yeah they felt nice but I like a more mid sized iron. The 923F seems like that perfect sweet spot for my game but I don’t want to just get a “forged” version of the HMP with marginally better feel. I wonder how the scoring irons feel compared to the chromoly 4-7

@AskGolfNut Год назад

They do feel better as the Chromoly has gone, but it's not a dramatic change due to the loft at transition. 👍

@Dave-bf9qu Год назад

Jay Could you compare the JPX923 F and the MP223? The KBS shaft JPX 923 F had more toe down than the PXIO in the 225.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

That's unfortunately due to the physical lie of the heads. The 225s were more in line with my lie angle needs against the media samples of the Forged are at standard. When I tested the Hot Metals their lie angle was even worse 😕 I'll definitely put 223 vs F on the list 👍

@firstname7330 10 месяцев назад

Can you purchase iron heads only from Mizuno?

@AskGolfNut 10 месяцев назад

I don't believe so directly from them, also not from any dna accounts but there are limited authorised fabrication centres that have Mizuno heads that are used for them to fulfil orders so you may get some luck with them...... 🤷🤷🤷

@wallstreetoneil Год назад

There are a great series of videos and I think the conclusion is going to be that Mizuno needs to do a 2025 redo/tweak of a few of their offerings to better separate them. To the Mizuno guys watching this, I want to see the next 225 in the JPX lineup as the JPX Pro and @ 32-degree 7-iron. I want to see the new/current JPX Pro, add a little tech/slot, like the Titleist T100s, and it should be put into the Mizuno Pro lineup at 32 degrees. Next, I want a combo of the Hot Metal Pro and the JPX Forged into a JPX Forged Pro (near zero offset, 31-degree 7 iron, small'ish head) - this should be the club for the 8-15 handicap player that wants everything - looks, distance, spin, no offset - everything. Then the JPX HL will be the 15-25 handicap iron - either hollow-bodied or similar to the current.

@sloswingspeed9535 Год назад

Paul…Mizuno is on a 2 year product cycle. Current 923s are in the lineup til ~ Aug/Sept ‘24, which believe will be 925s. The Hot Metal series is currently ~ $50 less than the MP 221/223/225 series. 923 Tour and Forged are close to MPs. The current MPs will be changed out ~ Sept ‘23, and will be in the 30/32/34* 7i range. New MPs are probably already final designed, with first runs of first production test lots probably,y in process. The 923 HM/Pro are in the industry Game Improvement category. I personally achieve HM HL performance in HM and Pro via soft stepping shafts steels or moving into lower than 85g graphites, some tipped and sanded .370” models to fit .355” hosels, in lieu of reaming .355” to .370”. Am told often ..” Mizuno is a Japanese family owned business, and moves more deliberately than the financially owned TM. It is one wild marketplace, and mimics the auto industry in many wAys.

@donkeek8107 Год назад

What about JPX 923 hotmetal against the 221? From one extreme to another . 😋

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Wow that would need some distance change on the tee box on the simulator 😁

@donkeek8107 Год назад

@@AskGolfNut I think I will give the 221s a try, but probably it will be the 225s (dreaming of Miura KM700). Playing with New Level 1031 irons at the moment (11 hcp).

@giomusah2155 Год назад

When you mean more forgiveness, is it a few yards difference?

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Literally very little, nearly these 2 could very well be interchangeable. Gives the golfer lots of options depending on their visual and feel preferences 👍

@giomusah2155 Год назад

@@AskGolfNut if you used a non forged 923 should we expect 5-10 yard difference between 225 and 923?

@AskGolfNut Год назад

You'll have to wait for the Pro 225 vs HM Pro video coming soon 😉👍

@Danks-vz5xz 29 дней назад

Is he the new mark crossfield?

@AskGolfNut 29 дней назад

Is a meant as a compliment?? 😊😊😊

@Danks-vz5xz 29 дней назад

@@AskGolfNut of course

@AskGolfNut 29 дней назад

@Danks-vz5xz 😊 wondered as sometimes Mark is seen as a bit of a marmite character 😊 personally I like the guy but thought I'd check 😂

@davidmeeks7449 Год назад

Not a fan of the 225. Bought them, sold them. Feels springy. Cannot stand these fake looking blades that are just cavity irons with steel wallpaper. Really has no business being in the MP lineup. It is a hollow body iron - no pro is playing a full set of those - and yet it is not as forgiving as the 923 Forged, which is easily the best of the JPX Forged lineup. Turf interaction also better in the 923 Forged.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Agree that there has been a migration from pure blade to more game improvement within the players sector. Its come from consumers demanding different launch characteristics and then manufacturers seeing a market for potential sales. In the purest terms you are absolutely right and I agree, although a lot of golfers would disagree based on their golf improving from having the extra help....... But I do look back on the days where MP meant exactly what it should 👍

@davidmeeks7449 Год назад

@@AskGolfNut Your reviews are great. I can tell you’re a purist at heart. And don’t get me wrong - if I am going hollow body, Mizuno and Srixon (ZX4 MKii) are the best. But there are a lot or better players who will do really well with the 923 Forged. Whatever tweaks they made to the sole, when you get it on grass it is nice, just a little quicker in and out of the ground than the 921. Off wet ground like we have often here in the mid-Atlantic it’s very nice. Really performs as well as the Srixon v-sole but the Mizuno is not quite so wide. I think the 923 lineup is best group of JPX heads yet. Keep up the great work. You have quite a following in the U.S.

@Smiththebat Год назад

WTF is being shaft sensitive?? I’ve never heard ANYONE say that before. Nor can I find anything online about it. Your telling me you can get the same distance and dispersion with any shaft?

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Hi Smiththebat, basically yes exactly that. I've tested so many shafts over the years from ladies all the way through to the super super stiff tour scaffold pole shafts and none of them make any difference to the flight of the ball. I've met a few people like it over the years, see may be one or two a year. It's to do with how the shaft is deflected during transition. The main reason why it's not commonly seen on the Internet is that it's not very common to see and also shaft companies that sell countless products are only in business making and selling the huge numbers they do. But with any thing in life there are always either side of the spectrum and most sit in between 👍 Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍

@Smiththebat Год назад

@@AskGolfNut that’s super friggen interesting and also super weird! Thanks for the explanation!

@Smiththebat Год назад

@@AskGolfNut I guess I have one more question then if you’re willing: what shafts do you find most beneficial to you then? If they don’t really affect your performance all that much? Somewhere right in the middle? What would be most efficient for you? I’m clearly intrigued now. 😛

@AskGolfNut Год назад

None are anymore efficient than others, but I guess just through preference I'm gaming the $ Taper Stiff. But I've used 130 X and also 95 Regs with absolutely no difference so I just go with what I like the look of at any particular point 😊

@Smiththebat Год назад

@@AskGolfNut awesome. That’s got to be a pretty decent advantage to your pocketbook…. And if you ever need to rent clubs! 🤙

@Krol_Artur Год назад

Please not now I already ordered 225 🤣

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Solid choice and my personal favourite of the two. If your strike is pretty decent doesn't have to be spot on, I would say the 225s are the better of the two 👍

@Krol_Artur Год назад

@@AskGolfNut Jay, I am a beginner.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Well. I practiced frequently as an amateur using a full on punishing old school blade to concentrate on strike etc so a 225 is like using a bucket on the end of a broom stick in comparison 😂😂

@Krol_Artur Год назад

@@AskGolfNut thanks, it will be a fun time 🤣

@epice10 Год назад

Good video, too much talking...

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Hi Phillippe, glad you enjoyed the video, sorry you thought there was too much talk. It's my style, I like to try and get over as much evidence based information as possible. Understand its not going to be for everyone 👍

@williammckinney969 11 месяцев назад

Your claim of not being “shaft sensitive” is a crazy statement. Shafts deliver differently with where it’s stiff where coil is, I mean just a nonsense statement

@AskGolfNut 11 месяцев назад

Hi William, I've done content on my channel before (even recently) showing how vastly different shafts make no difference to ball flight whatsoever for me. This is because I load the shaft in tension rather than bending stress. I therefore don't see any measurable 3 dimensional face angle differences at impact regardless of what shaft I use. I've found a few people over the years that have a similar load profile, the vast vast majority of golfers load with bending stress so your comment is absolutely correct for the masses 👍 As for nonsense, I've literally proved my point time after time after time throughout the years. We all do things differently that have a greater and lesser effect on many aspects of everything, I'm just on one extreme side of that scale. Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍

@kramzaid4720 Год назад

I've tried very hard to watch your channel several times, but honestly about 70% of your talking is is nothing but chatter....When you talk "specifically" about the subject it is very informative. But having to listen to your "chatter" is very difficult.

@AskGolfNut Год назад

My channel is not for everyone. There are loads of other channels that give more entertainment 👍

@zazhou Год назад

With respect to Jay, I have mentioned similarly before. I now pretty much fast forward to the end of the video for the final thoughts and summation. Every one to their own, as always. Swing well and enjoy your golf!

@AskGolfNut Год назад

Always do. I do suggest though that if you aren't getting what you want from watching my content then it's better if you were to find what you really want to watch from somewhere that ticks more of the boxes you need. I have a specific way of being and doing things which I know is niche but it comes from the heart and mind and I do it the way I do. Thanks for watching 👍

@nielsaxelsson Год назад

Please keep on doing it like you do - for some of us it ticks a *lot* of boxes! 👍✅

@sloswingspeed9535 Год назад

Jay…different shafts, different total club weight, different club MOI. Human robotic swinger (“”)