MLB botched three replay reviews in one day, a breakdown 

Not only the umpires but the "chosen" teams also. Had that been a KC runner I bet he is called out and then it would have stood also.

It's nothing compared to how much the NFL protects its refs and will admit no fault.

@@jamesharmon845 why do you even watch, then?

@@jamesharmon845 but people STILL will say these games are "fair", actually cabbage brains for still believing sports being real

@@bosoxdanc1 Thats a good question. I for one get tired of it

@@SavageProductionsCars Replay reviewers: "Whatever the guy on the field said"

THE FUTURE, MAN! 🤘😎

Why not just wear a two-foot long sliding mitt?

A new app called The Bosses is popular and is used to place bets on how many calls the umpires will miss. There's an Angel Hernandez scoring system built into the app which rates the umpires from A to Z based on how their career has gone.

I'm guessing this is accurate.

He was playing twister

No diddy

😂

If we still have arguments over plays that are reviewed, maybe just eliminate it, just let the umpires call it in real time.

Agreed. Was the same in the NFL with challenging PI calls. They executed it terribly so they could turn around and say”well everyone argues about the call anyways so let’s leave it to the ref” when in reality it just needed some tweaks. But these calls by the ump are way worse cuz these aren’t subjective calls like a strike or a ball. You can see if a guys hand or foot hit the bag before he’s tagged it’s usually not that complicated

@@robertewalt7789 Exactly. Good point.

​@@robertewalt7789or maybe just remove the ump from those decisions instead of letting them decided the game as opposed to the players decided it

VAR is the same.

Umpires union will never allow it as it would, in their eyes, undermine their members. MLB is forced to give the human umpire the benefit of any doubt. That said, I do agree w/ your idea. I think it would be a much more fair way to do reply.

This is genius

That defeats the entire purpose of it being a review. They have to know what the call on the field was because they go into the review with the assumption the umpires, who are assumed to have a better and more accurate view (whether or not that's actually the case) saw it better. When you have very close calls like this, where we're talking a number of frames where someone may or may not have been touching the base or the runner, etc, it's not enough *indisputable* evidence to overturn. It has to be very, very clear and obvious that the call on the field was wrong. If you play the devil's advocate and can even make a plausible argument that the runner could have been safe (ie, there is some ambiguity) then they have to go with the call on the field. That's how the review system is designed. If you don't like it that way, then fans need to start making their views known to the MLB. Start an organized campaign with refusal to buy tickets/watch games if you think it's THAT unfair. That will get their attention. Otherwise, read the rules and understand the intent and viewpoint of the video review personnel, so that reviews like this are not actually "botched" but rather just following the guidelines they have.

@@AureliusR If the reviewers are unable to determine a call, they could just say the review was inconclusive and the call reverts to whatever was originally called. I agree with OP, letting the reviewers know ahead of time what the call on the field was introduces unnecessary bias to the reviewers.

Unbelievable. KC has every right to be upset. Even Bob Costas was adamant about Jazz being out. Joke. Small market Midwestern team vs NYC. BULLSHIT.

Of course the Yankees get the call when the replay center is based out of New York.

@@jiffycrimso5691 I could say the same about the NFL as Mahomes gets every call in his favor.

@@TheGamingKiller242 I could say the same about the NFL as Mahomes gets every call in his favor.

@@jiffycrimso5691 What about the Chiefs and the fact games are rigged in Mahomes favor in the sense that every call goes Mahomes way.

How would we even know, they just give them word over the phone. No accountability by whoever sends in the call.

The ascendant masters

@@elasmojonesI’m sorry I made the wrong call

what's the point of having a dedicated replay booth if they have one camera lol

Because they know a certain camera angle will show what they don't want you to see . Especially if they make the wrong call.

🥁🥁💥

Quality Nike Uniforms 😂

😂😂😂😂 he actually changed them immediately he went back to the club house

😂😂😂

They have backups especially for this year's unis.

that helmet one is so ugly. the unis seem less annoying to me for whatever reason

@@mikesmith2057 yea they should keep it to the sleeve only

It's turned into nascar

Dont even joke about that, its not funny

Actually Hernandez statistically wasn't that bad of an umpire. Baseball Doesn't Exist has a great video about it. Not defending him...the dude is a clown, but he certainly isn't the worst by any means.

@@fuzzybanana0123 Yeah, I saw that video. It's crazy how well he actually did behind the plate. The angle of the cameras made it look bad.

@@bjcwood05 i was less worried about him behind the plate actually but theres videos of him completely blowing easy calls one after the other. theres a vid blowing 3 first calls in 1 game that all went to review. that just cant happen

NFL refs are worse as they openly rigged games for Mahomes and the Chiefs.

Still not as bad as the Fail Mary or the non pass interference between the Saints and the Rams back in the 2018 NFC Championship game.

It's intentional. They have vested interest in certain outcomes

Do they have all these broadcast camera angles?

@@thlee3100% they do. They have access to every camera… even yours.

It's funny, I'm a Yankees fan and my gf is a Phillies fan and we both benefited from bad calls. Personally as much as I want the win and how instrumental that play was to making it happen it left a bad taste in my mouth. If it was the Freeman play on the Yanks I'd be like ehhh but I'd probably take it pretty happily. I don't like undeserved things like that if I can avoid it.

@@Taimasame also cheer for the yanks but jazz was definitely out so thats a bitter taste in my mouth for sure

"uggghhh we gotta do work now? I'm tired, let's just say it stands" - MLB probably

I think they’re gonna stand with the rule when it comes to the part of “clear and obvious” when you have to replay a video and slow motion like 5 times to see it. It’s not “clear and obvious”

@@cristianchavez6352Jomboy did all this after the fact. It was easy to tell live that he was out. 😂

@@cristianchavez6352 That's the whole point of replay, they have slow mo and can replay it multiple times from all angles lol.

Especially if New York calls New York. Of course New York wants New York to win

Man, this is more true than we know. I've long felt the NFL has been compromised, but it's sad to see it in MLB too. The ads everywhere are bad enough, but if they can't keep the gambling-based rigging at bay, baseball is cooked.

@@joshwolfthecomedianit’s funny because the nfl being rigged for gambling has been a problem forever. A book came out in 1989 called interference that highlighted the problem. Now the teams have an invested interested in the outcomes since they have partnered with sports books.

“this review brought to you by FanDuel. When you absolutely know the refs will call Vegas for the answer”

Failing Upwards: My Life Destroying America's Pastime, A Memoir by Angel Hernandez

That was the deal if he agreed to retire

@@Puert0ricandream 😂😂

-Takes off mask, revealing Angel~ And I would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling Jomboy

😂😂😂

so tru

What about the non pass interference call between the Saints and the Rams back in the 2018 NFC Championship game?

@@arthurau9231lawd have mercy, we’re here to talk about baseball dude

@@arthurau9231 nah

who says they screwed up? That these weren't done on purpose to get the desired outcome?

Worst announcer in MLB. Such a homer.

@@anticensorshipsociety1063he’s the best in the business 😂

@@anticensorshipsociety1063 Ok, I don't think you understand what the word homer means if you're using it to describe Gary Cohen.

@@anticensorshipsociety1063with that one statement you have lost the ability to ever have an opinion on baseball ever again

Cohen and Darling are easily the most objective announcers in the game. I cant count how many times they call out a missed play or pitch for both teams. While on the other feed I will hear other announcers... "Wheeler with a first pitch strike at the corner..." and its inches outside the zone. Its at a point that if its anyone else(other than a network with no skin in the game) then I cant watch it.

“Over slids it” 😅

6:16 fr bro look how much longer that shit looks

Yep.👍

Or, if they do allow them, any close play automatically goes to the defense, as the hand is presumed not to have reached the base in time. Otherwise, you're allowing what amounts to a hand extender to unduly benefit the runner.

Isn't it to prevent them from breaking their fingers? Cuz in that context it is pretty necessary imo

The Freeman one he should be out on ugliness of the slide (not really but my man what are you doing?)

@@MadSpectre47 he's injured, that's what's happening

yea, injured people steal bases all the time.

Yeah, the Freeman one is harder but it looks like through the whole play, there is fabric from his pants, esp the lower leg, still touching the base.

Mmm

You could using multiple angles at once, though I don't know if they have enough time for that.

​@MordechaiHershoffyoutube as a dodger fan, I wish we could've seen multiple angles overlayed because this breakdown made me question it more than when it was live. That calf looks really close and if he wasn't touching it but his pants were, that's like very close

@@AG-fv4ybyeah I was there, as a Padre fan, in person and it didn’t seem that questionable.

but jimmy didn't even get the first moment he was out go to 4:26 and press , about 23 times first leg has come off, second foot hasn't yet touched, tag is applied

All of them were. Trea's glove was on(?), Freddie's leg(?), Jazz's foot(?). None were 100%.

Count on it.

The plate umpire in the Mets-Phillies game as atrocious. He was calling strikes that looked like they were 6 inches off the plate.

Mlb, they're betting on a Dodgers-Yankees WS

​@kenthehobo they want Judge vs Ohtani WS

pregame

And….racist

@@aaronm3416get a grip

Lol thought the same shit.

yeah with Freddie he was likely out, but you can't see if his pant leg is still touching. with the other two the spaces between the runner and bag is visible

@@wonday2738 That is what I'm saying.. It's hard to judge on Freddie's play but the Mets and Yankees were definitely clear

They all seemed kind of "disputable" tbh

Pass interference was obvious between Saints vs Rams back in 2018 but the refs still missed it.

The other two are bad but the Dodgers call would be iffy if overturned. Good stands imo as a Tigers fan.

They overturn plenty of times. It's not a loophole. Just like any sport, if there is not 100% conclusive evidence to overturn, it stays the same. Which was the case in all three of these.

you have to have clear evidence to overturn, it cant be in any way iffy. the fact jomboy has to edit the clip like this at 1:35 should show you how insanely hard that would be to see with a 100% assurance

@@TheFamousMockingbird My counter-point would be, if Jomboy can do it, so can the MLB - a multi-billion dollar organization with some of the most advanced tech in the industry

@@TheFamousMockingbird In this video the most difficult editing is syncing up multiple shots next to each other and going through them frame-by-frame, which is exactly how the MLB reviews calls. They should be able to look at something just as conclusive as what we see here. I do have to point out though that the "edit" you refer to at 1:35 is pausing the video and zooming in. Is that really "insanely hard" for a pro sports league?

@@TheFamousMockingbirdjomboy was using THEIR footage…

@@TheFamousMockingbird This is the key that people do not understand. Some think that a replay means the call on the field is nullified and the decision is up to replay; its not.

I'd be embarrassed to be seen with them...like I need to cheat to steal a base.

Good thing none of you have to wear them.

They look dumb, but it’s better than broken/dislocated fingers. Bike helmets are similar. You won’t look as cool, but if you crash and smack your head on something, the helmet will keep it from getting way worse.

If there were no oven mitts, the Trey Turner pickoff would not even been in question. I don't understand why they can't have some kind of kevlar/padded type GLOVE (instead of a mitten) that doesn't extend the player's reach to the degree that these mittens do. I just looked it up, and apparently there is currently no MLB regulation as to the length of the gloves a player can use.

Anything to increase the reach.

Appreciate your honesty

Not a Yankees fan and not that surprised. Too close to overturn.

I thought he was out but wasn’t gonna complain lol

@@adammiller9179bro you can see he was out before he got to the bag, and even after his feet popped off while masseys tag was still on

I could say the same regarding the miss pass interference in the Saints vs Rams NFC Championship game back in 2018 as well.

@@arthurau9231 yup that’s the playoffs and an easy call, needs to be right

they’ve probably got a pitch click in the replay room and when that time expires oh shit i guess call stands

Pretty sure they did. Two minutes or something.

he's injured, it's impressive he even got to the base. literally running on a sprained ankle

he used Twister to get ready for the game.

They should have to make a clean slide..like how they can't run outside the baseline. What he did seemed questionable.

He was safe

Could be. That's why it's not overturned. I agree.

Moooo

I wonder if a part of his pant leg is still in contact, or provides enough reasonable doubt. If contact with cloth is good enough for a hit by pitch, it’s good enough for base running.

It was but it comes off a few seconds later before he can get his hand back on the base. Meanwhile the second basemen has his glove on him the whole time. It's around the 4:50 mark

If the equipment is being worn on the player it counts as part of the player. If a batters jersey gets grazed by a pitch it counts as a “hit by pitch” And on the other hand Justin turner slid into second base a few weeks ago and his helmet was tagged. But his helmet had fallen off his head and gotten in the way of the tag so he was ruled safe.

That was my big argument. And what if he pulled the mit out a bit so it adds even more! Why are they even afraid to use regular fingered gloves that have some slide to them!?

@@vazquezcarlosthe main purpose of the sliding mitt is to prevent jamming/dislocating fingers. Any additional length is a bonus. Kinda like how NHL goalie pads have gotten bigger over the decades.

There's no rule about the length of those things, so they should really push it with some foot-long ones.

@@caryallen8409 I'd love to see that. See how far they can get...lol.

Exactly, as soon as they saw the replay, that was the first time in the game they got quiet.

Cricket does this, soccer does this. But cricket more so, particularly with ball tracking. Basically a line ball call, or inconclusive footage/tech means the on field decision is preferenced.

They do. "Call on the field is confirmed." Means exactly that. "Call on the field stands", which they said in all three of these, means there wasn't enough evidence to overturn.

So funny becaue this happens a thousand times a year and every time we have the same argument. Balls and strikes are a much bigger issue with Umps making awful calls that affect the game.

​@@uncleike6211Yeah but do you lose your challenge if the call "stands"?

@@SirTylerGolf Yes. The intent is to let teams challenge obvious blown calls, not ones like this where it's too close to call, even on replay. Teams do get 2 challenges in the playoffs per game instead of 1. (I missed this part of the original comment because I didn't see the "Read more" link.)

Ummm what? You mean the Royals 2nd basemen's foot was way off the bag? Where the 2nd basemen's foot is means absolutely nothing on that play. The only thing that matters is wether the 2nd basemen's glove tagged the runner before the runner reached 2nd.

@@PunkRockGuitarTabs no, at 1:57 the yanks foot comes off the base and is not touching the base at all but the glove is still on him. you can also see it at 0:40

Yeah they need to send Nike packing yesterday

Like what? Its over. How many times do we have this same conversation. Football is worse.

Yeah to save their fingers while sliding

Ron Darling is too biased. We get him and Smoltz back to back every year the Yankees advance to the ALCS and they both hate the NYY.

I don’t know where you’re from but Fox is by default worse

@@lightechoes I miss GKR so much. Ha.

I feel the same way. Everyone else just wants to agree with Jomboy. Mob mentality. None were 100%. Therefore, no overturn.

The royals one was clearly out, you can see the gap between his heal and the base clearly.

Yes, they are, and it's the reason everyone slides head first now. When replay first started, everyone was sliding feet first, and there was usually this brief little "hop" when they stood up which took them off the bag for a split second, and they would call them out upon review if they kept the tag on them during said hop. Which is why it's so ludicrous now that they're letting all these calls stand.

In the postseason, absolutely nit pick!

All of these people are forgetting the replay rule. Conclusive evidence against the call overturns, inconclusive evidence *even leaning towards an overturn* cannot result in an overturn. Literally none of these were conclusive but the postseason always brings out the whiners.

Phillies are bigger than the Mets?!

@@chrisaye1yes, Philly, LA and the Yankees. Easily the biggest teams in baseball from a visual standpoint

Dodger fan here. and I totally agree. They're helping the big ticket teams for that $$ and want them to make it to the LCS games. Ohtani's garnering so much money from both USA and multiple parts of Asia while the East got New York and Phillies. I mean, it's great to see my Dodgers get the treatment, but it's quite unfair to the smaller franchise teams.

Might want to take off your tin foil hat now.

@@adammiller9179 it’s always easy to call others crazy when your team is getting all the calls. Chiefs fans say the same thing

Lol you’re just mad nothing is rigged with that loser mentality Yankees played the worst game of baseball I’ve ever seen in my life and still came away with the win💀

Not rigged, just soon to be unemployed

@@TehMarcy I have zero interest in either team, and zero interest in any of the teams left in the playoffs, but thanks for confirming the typical Yankees fan is trash, good job!

The Mets in New York are a bigger market than the Phillies and the Phillies had the call go their way on the pickoff. So this theory doesn't hold water.

@@Mark-wd5zb New York is obviously bigger than Philly, but it has two teams, and the Yankees dominate that market. Additionally, Philly has a lot more star power than the Mets, and I'm pretty certain MLB would rather have Philly advance based on that. I don't know the viewer numbers of Philly vs Mets, but it wouldn't surprise me if Philly is higher being a one team town, plus the draw of Harper. But I could be wrong.

If that was the case, why haven’t they made it happen yet?? Both teams have been in the same playoffs countless times in recent memory.

it's better even if the tech only works some of time, here the replay room is full of humans who make the final call. bases with sensors would help even more

You do realize that there’s people looking at and operating said tech right?

@@lightechoes Yeah, that's why I said "they're still getting it wrong," implying the humans are still getting these wrong even though they are looing at the replays. Read much?

​@@aftershock4gI'll accept some 50/50 shit on the tag outs like Freeman but the others were pretty clear instances of blown calls on the field. Tech or no tech - the issue is the human element for sure. I hope when roboumps are introduced into the MLB it simplifies some of the roles for the umpires so they can focus on these parts more closely.

especially when the rule dictates that the umpire has to have absolute certainty in order to overturn. if they are not entirely sure, hell they could be 90% sure it was worng, but that 10% by rule means the play can not be overturned.

the yankees one wasn't that close the other two were a bit closer, jazz even fully takes his foot off when coming up

yeap, MLB can't watch replays frame by frame, so bad for MLB, only jomboy can:( little Yankees fan

@@wonday2738 doesn't matter baseman didn't hold the tag

What do you think they are doing at mlb? You dope.

It looks obvious. There are many close calls like that

His foot came off the bag, which is not being shown here. He was definitely out.

@@Templestone Exactly. If it wasn’t obvious, announcers would have not called it blatantly “a wrong call”.

first one was most obviously out, there's dirt between his shoe and the base because he slid so early that he's coming in slow. he also takes his foot off while the tag is still on

Calling someone out for their foot coming a millimeter off the bag after they’ve beaten the throw is the dumbest thing about replay

@@Flashfm3000 His foot was never on the bag until after the tag. He missed the bag entirely.

His spike might have very well touched the base, that’s why he was able to stop so sharply.

"There's daylight between the cleat and the bag clear as day!!" *proceeds to show a complete mess of an image where the spike is touching the bag*

How about Mets?

You mean look at all the Ohtani glazing?

yeah, they should use even longer ones ! ;)

You gotta watch the video

Diddy?

Spoken like a yankees fan. You can see daylight between his foot and the bag. Cope harder. he was 100% out, and it shouldn't matter what the call on the field was. If he was touching the bag, why would he hop off it and reposition his foot like he did? Big risk to take if his foot was already touching the base.

@@TheMlerich30 what?