Model H: Overpowered, But Overbearing 

Just found this video and insta sub

This is mostly a good write up, but it bugs me you keep calling it "Model H" across its incarnation in both games, even though they have differences. In ZX, it's Model HX for a reason. Biometal H is fragmented into two parts, and it only works for Vent/Aile when melded with X. It looks different, and the merging with Model X gives it powers it doesn't otherwise have. In Advent, it's fine to call it Model H, but it is a substantially different character, they even look different.

⁠@@bunnyofepicnessI called both of them Model H so I could have a easier time when recording the voiceovers, and as a way to refer to both of them. I can see how that would be weird though.

OP, that just means you can't be defeated

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I mean ZX is the "last" one you get basically.

In ZXA the nemy boss forms are way more overpowered than the models like chronostasis whale because it freezes time and has an insanely small hurtbox allowing you to just sit through some boss attacks and freezing time is overpowered.

​@@dave9515 I've never seen anyone even call the boss forms strong, much less overpowered like, they are so clunky and situational that most of the time they are just puzzle pieces in most situation you would be better off using any Model for the mobility it offers

​@@thunnus_albacares nah but since you gain special energy Im ZX advent actually and the fact that the time stopper guys hitbox is just on his feet/ face? It's better to just use chrnostalasis then spam attacks as whichever model you want

I mean... I'd say they fixed H in zxa lol

For Model Hx? Probably, but it's also likely a combination of factors, because Harpuia summons a tornado in Z1(albeit not to do damage) as can be seen in this video at 31 seconds in: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k-Jy5pDbgGY.htmlsi=PcOxLNsgUjyBaLLE His Armed Phenomenon form also summons a tornado in Z2 as shown in this video 1 minute and 17 seconds in: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IoKZOLsBLMY.htmlsi=SkOnOY4s5XH8Ws81

​​@@aliesterus1.023They're actually direct references to X's Special Weapons, which makes sense since you're essentially using Model X all throughout MMZX, as it allows you to assimilate the other biometals just like X would when defeating a boss. Hx Tornado = Charged Storm Tornado Lx Ice Sled = Charged Shotgun Ice Fx Ground Flame = Charged Fire Wave Px Barrier = Charged Rolling Shield (Hx also has a purple Lightning Orb that is similar to Electric Spark. It doesn't work the same way but but uses the same element)

👏 agreed

I’m personally really excited to do that one, but it’ll be after the Guardian Models, and Model A. There’ll be a lot to talk about with that model though.

My favourite is definitely LX but I get why (almost) every other model is more popular, still i can't wait for the PX video

I’ll do it eventually, right after Model P. The order I’m doing the guardian models in is based off a poll I made with the Model ZX video, so I’ll do Model P next, then Model L.

@xYT9838only now learned about that after just watching that video. I'll wait though.

I used Px the most as it made running easier. Lx was my least used.

LMAO It terms of bosses overall, Model OX is definitely better (except against Fire Bosses) But Model H is better in terms of how much you use it in the game overall, which is almost all of it. Not saying Model OX is bad, not at all, but in terms of the stages, bosses, and overall game, Model H is used more. I agree that Model O is an absolute monster in Mega Man ZX though, no wonder it’s unusable until you beat the game.

Oh howdy Phoenix. You're speaking facts. I was just stirring the pot for the lolz. @@PhoenixYT9838

Yeah, I just tested it, it’s possible. You can also do it against Queenbee with the Tornadoes with Air Slash, but only against the hive.

I found them here: megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Model_H I’m not too sure if anything on that is wrong, but it was pretty trustworthy and I’ve used it before. Let me know if anything on there is 100% wrong though

@@PhoenixYT9838 Thank you!

It’s the ZX Advent tunes version of Tower of Verdue.

Yeah definitely, in Mega Man ZX, Model H can very easily sweep the bosses it’s good against, it doesn’t mean the others are bad, but Model H can kill most bosses faster than Model X and ZX can. Again, it doesn’t mean the other models are bad at killing bosses at all, and those models are better overall against bosses, as they don’t have the weakness against Ice bosses Model H does. I still see it as pretty powerful though, mostly because as with Model ZX, you can get it pretty early. That definitely got me thinking though, thanks for the comment!

@@PhoenixYT9838 To be clear, I wasn't saying that you were saying that other models are bad, I was just drawing a distinction between "fast" and "overpowered". Overpowered carries the connotation of trivializing fights, but in the case of Model H in comparison to ZX for example, it doesn't make most fights easier, you just win certain ones faster.

Yeah, good point. The bosses don’t become an instant win, you still have to be good at the game and dodge their attacks. And while the term overpowered can be associated with easiness, something can still be overpowered and not easy to use and master. But yeah, Model H just makes those fights it’s good against go faster, as you still have to be good at the game for them to be easy. I think Fire bosses could be arguable as being easier, but you still have to be good at the game in general, and know when to use Model H and the Overdrive to kill those bosses faster. iirc, Blazin Flizard’s tail makes it to where you can get hit if you do the Air Slash to stun him, then Dash Slash to pass through him. So if you time your attacks wrong, or use the wrong ones, you’ll get hit by the tail. But yeah, you have a good point, Model H generally makes the fights go faster, and it doesn’t mean they’re easier.

you can also damage stack the 3rd hit of H and HX's 3 hit combo with the sonic boom just be directly beside the mini boss

both are really good, but ZX is better personally.

Model H definitely isn’t Overpowered like HX is. It’s worse than Model ZX 100%, and I mentioned how Model H is worse in ZX Advent a decent amount of times, but the only time I directly said it was in the outro. But yeah, Model H is nerfed pretty hard in Advent, while still being good.

​​@@PhoenixYT9838Not denying that, though for some reason, HX's design sells better for me than Aeolus. And the movement is a huge plus for either, save for aforementioned low points in certain stages.