Factoring in the return leg after recharging, which is more downhill, the total average was 16.3kWh/100km for a range of 368km. Hope you enjoyed the video!
I got my MY RWD 2 weeks ago and here are my findings after 1600km of basic testing. 1/3 highway driving, the rest around northern beaches and north shore Sydney. Driving at speed limit, and occasionally spirited, also using A/C and stereo. AVG consumption = 130 wh/km, including 500km of 110kph driving. AVG around the city is 127wh/km and highway was 139h/km. Estimated range at top of screen when at 100% states 435km. The energy app estimates based on my actual driving (Real world range) consumption that I will get around 470km at 100% SOC. My Tessie app connected to the car says it has a usable capacity of 60Kwh. 0.0% degradation. Tessie also shows my "real world range" as 455km. It seems to me that maybe Tesla is keeping some battery capacity hidden in reserve so people don't make silly mistakes and be inconvenieced. Not sure of course, but several signs point towards this. Will do a proper long range drive to exhausion and see for real. Highway speeds will obviously not get that far but it looks like it may be possible to get over 400km on the highway. However this is heading north from Sydney. Heading south the Jindy will obviously be less. Look forward to a harder test like that to gauge better. Around town however, I'm confident of getting over the quoted 455km range.
I did a trip from Sydney to Melbourne in a Kia e-Niro, in similar conditions. By the time I reached the Chargefox in Goulburn I was sitting at 18.9 kWh/100km (189 w/km). Getting 17.5 out of a huge car like the MY is really impressive as the Niro has a reputation for efficiency in its own right. After Goulburn the weather turned shite, cold and wet, but I averaged 17.9 over 906 km
Love to see the 'real world' range - starting with 100% and with a mix of town and highway driving 'til you run out. What you got - 328 km is a long way short of WLTP.
WLTP test is not real world test. It represents ideal test in ideal conditions with slow speeds etc. Real life range is always lower, no matter what EV we are talking about...
@@stefyyy1994 WLTP is a mixture of city and highway, not all at slow speeds. It doesn’t deal with real world conditions though as it’s done on a dynometer. Chasing Cars was an interesting test as it seemed a lot thirstier than many other Model Y videos I’ve seen.
WLTP is much closer to reality than the old NEDC standard, and we have achieved WLTP or close to WLTP in many vehicles. But normally you're 10-20% off WLTP.
Probably would be interesting to pick a distant destination at random (using a randomiser app or something) and then work out how to plan your trip, rather than go somewhere that you pretty much know where the chargers are etc
as someone who came from a small old car with a small petrol tank that could only do about 300kms, upgrading to the model 3 has been amazing as it not only goes further on a tank, i charge it everyday so never even think of range let alone worry
Amazing videos! Please keep them going as this RWD Model Y just landed in Europe and we want to know how it performs, range, etc! Can you a more normal test without down or uphills and please ask your government to increase the ambient temperature to 25 degrees Celsius 🤣🤣🤣
charging to 100% damages the battery over time. Much better for battery health to charge 80% max for normal use, and keep 100% deep charges for only when needed
@@svdragunov apartment complexes will start installing chargers, and for everyone else there will be public chargers, shopping centres, service stations, work sites etc.
I have the same spec model y but with 20” induction wheels. Just went from Brisbane CBD to Ballina return on the weekend stopped for a 20 min/20kwh charge at Ballina Chargefox. Started with 100% charge. Arrived home with 10% charge. Total round trip 383 km. Perfectly fine for my needs.
Hi Tom, Thanks for the wonderful review! It would be great and will be much appreciated if Chasing Cars can get us the exhaustion test on this car! It would be fun to watch and perhaps be insightful as well! Thanks Tom! Have a good one 🙂
While most of the comments deny range anxiety is an issue , l find Tom's comments valid, especially for non Telsa Evs. I found this recently where l had to make a 100 km detour due to road works, only then to find all chargers at a Chargefox station were non operational. Just made it home with 1 km of range showing, and pretty high anxiety levels. Have to say l was somewhat envious of Ice cars filling up at the several service stations l passed. Telsa superchargers have a huge marketing advantage over other Eve.
So let me get this straight: The car TELLS you to slow a bit, but you ignore it. That’s really smart. NOT. I disagree about the ride. I’d hate it to be softer, like the yank cars in the past.
Hertz rents Model 3's and Y's in North America. I've got one reserved for a upcoming vacation in Oregon. Picking it up in Portland, driving up to Astoria on the Pacific coast. There are plenty of Superchargers in that part of the USA, no worries about range/charging.
This is WHY WLTP is a SUCK-IN for NEWBIES!!! 1) You NEVER get what WLTP says!! 2) It ALWAYS different how far you get!! 3) Depends on outside temp, how lead footed you are, winds (markedly), hills, traffic, rain - and other things!!! NB: I have a LFP M3
I'm really sorry but as a professional car engineer & EV expert I was partly asking myself, what were you thinking when recording this video! I had the situation to be stranded 600 meters in front of a supercharger while having over 20% juice left in the battery before. If you see that you do not have enough range left you should reduce your speed rapidly, this is how you will increase your range! But anyway thank you for recording the Video, I will probably go with the long range Model Y which is made in Germany now!
Thank you for taking your time to test this Model Y RWD. Of course, a test to toal exhaustion would be great !! Lot of expectation here in EU for this flavour of Model Y that's coming in the next months.
Most reviewers test EV range with only the driver on board. I am yet to see a range test with an EV carrying passengers and their luggage. I want to see this for sure👍
If this was done on the first charge direct from Tesla then it’s possible the battery/battery indicator isn’t even calibrated yet. Shouldn’t you do a few full charge cycles and then test?
I just had a test drive of the model Y in Richmond, Vic and the ride comfort wasn’t as bad as I thought it wld be. The suspension is firm but the seats are super comfy and therefore we didn’t find it was unpleasant.. We have a GLC and this was comparable in ride comfort to us.. controls through the screen though is something we need to get used to as it was weird..
Isn't just saying that the consumption was higher than the WLTP a bit misleading? The WLTP is obviously lower because it's not a 110 km/h run going uphill, it's a mixed test...
Thanks for this useful review - appreciated. Personally I think most EV owners would've charged up to about 80% before leaving Sydney. Anyways, it was interesting to see how the highway driving speeds affected the range under real world conditions. It would have been great to see a picture of the energy map in the Tesla at the end of the trip showing actual energy usage vs predicated. Yes, I would love to see another review of distance highway driving from 100% to zero to get a true sense of range on the Model Y. Just some comments on the video - I appreciate that there are cutaways from your other videos but I found these a little confusing with your narrative, as they didn't match the narrative of driving on the Hume Highway between Sydney and Goulburn. For example: 3:43 (where is this - Monaro Hwy towards Cooma?); 4:58 (where is this - Kings Hwy?); 5:58 (clearly Lake George, which is near to Canberra well past Goulburn); 6:26 (where is this - Kings Hwy?): 6:57 (where is this - a back road near Goulburn?). Love to see more reviews in general about Tesla EV performance and range under varying conditions (highway, winter, summer).
This video reminds me eerily of the almost-exact same experience I had with a tester Model X, on review for Gizmodo back when they were new (maybe when the P90D had just launched?) My experience differed a *tiny* bit, with me ending up stuck 3km short of Tesla in Artarmon, charging off a 240V outlet at the motorbike shop on the side of Epping Road at 11PM... These days I mostly think of how bad it is long-term for the battery to be run down to zero on some of the different cell types, as impressive as Tesla's batteries have proven themselves to be!
A most unrealistic testing scenario, EVs are supposed to be charged like an iPhone, ie every night you plug it in to recharge it. Leaving Sydney, for that length o]f drive with that level of charge is nuts. Need to treat it like a plane and always carry minimum reserve fuel. For me thats 100km buffer. EVs require a complete re think about how you fuel you car, once you do so, they are an absolute pleasure to drive. Off course the ride comfort is on the firmer side of normal it has a very low c of g and It is a high performance car. All high performance cars have firm suspension thats what makes their handling good. The ride of my M3 is far better than my more expensive X3 M4.0 and the seats are far superior. Self induced range anxiety that was completely unnecessary and avoidable. You wouldn't leave SYD with a low fuel warning in a petrol car, why do it in an EV?
At home, about $12 (depending on electricity rates, much cheaper if on solar), at a Tesla supercharger they just put their rates up so would be $39 if absolutely empty (cant imagine it happening in real life). Fast charging would only be used on road trips though, I had my car for 9 months any only charged at a supercharger once on a holiday.
@@Mububban23 Yes it was, but he was trying to do an out-of-town trip and the computer is quite accurate at telling you what you need to do to get there, especially as he hadn’t charged up. Follow the instruction or charge up first and then not worry.
Hi team, exhausting the battery to 0% is a pointless exercise as you don’t operate an electric car like that. Having owned a full electric vehicle it won’t help battery life regarding degradation. The idea is to charge slowly the majority of the time and use supercharging on long trips. By the way, having run four different hybrids in the last 20years, have never replaced the high voltage battery just one 12 volt battery. Still own a gen 4 Prius and took delivery of a Mazda3 SkyactivX last month. Cheers.
I think you are missing out on one of the big advantages of an EV. You won’t go a week without charging it, when you get home every night you plug it in. You wake up every morning not having to worry about stopping at a servo on your way to work. 300 km range is plenty when you are doing 20km a day. Only when you want to take a long trip do you start worrying about range, but for 99% of your driving it is not a problem.
that’s certainly a good theory, but for many Australians it isn’t reality. Take me - the editor of a motoring publication but no ability to charge at home. Why? Sixties apartment building, solid as a rock, but no cabling to the garage and a strata that doesn’t want to do it.
@@chasingcars If I was unable to charge at home from my solar I would not have bought an EV, the inconvenience of having to wait at a charger would not be worth the benefit. There will always be a segment of the population that will be unsuited to EV ownership, but as adoption grows and strata managers are pressured by larger numbers of owners this segment will shrink.
@@chasingcars stratas need to be forced to allow provisioning of EV charging points. Have seen too many reports of the same. For most drivers they don't need to be super high speed either. I've done 100% of my charging since my March arrival on up to 8A charging (~244v), and as the days get sunnier again it's getting towards mostly from PV. Granted I only do about 80km daily.
Doooooo ittttttttttttt hehe. Do the 100-0% test. some nice flat highway from sydney north or south and see how far that thing can go for those who want an EV but fear having their "weekends destroyed" haha.
Thanks for that! I don't know the geography around Sydney well :(. Brisbane here. Also... I hope my joke around 'destroying the weekend' was understood... I was paying out out those people in public office who said EVs will 'destroy the weekend'. I'd love an EV and am umming and ahhhing over getting a EV, PHEV, or hybrid. Been watching all your segments keenly regarding these topics.
Yep, totally with you. Can't say an EV has destroyed my weekend yet (lol), but with my Polestar 2 long-termer I do occasionally choose to drive one of my ICE cars if I just don't have the time to charge it. Like many Sydneysiders I live in an apartment with no charging facilities.
The test will need re test. Battery calibration. No question about that. Charge cycles are required. Simple as that. Hopefully will see a re test in future videos
I think you would have made it to the SC, but at 15 degrees outside why did you need the air-con on? Just have the fan on pumping the cold outside air in. Also you had the lights on which use power.
Maintaining a comfortable temperature (15 is too cold), having lights on for rural driving, and listening to music at moderate volume are normal expectations in the year 2022
Yep tesla brags about all the superfluous bells and whistles and it doesn't even scream at you when your battery level is critically low... it also doesn't scream at you when your about to reverse into something. The software is shit all round in these cars. I should know because I own one.
chances are being LFP's flat curve tesla built in some massively range below 0% to avoid 20%-> 0% nightmarish scenario. if fully charged maybe able to hit closer to WLTP but for peace of mind it'd be rarely fully utilised
You have proven the point many people make and are worried about. You have conducted a real life situation like most people would drive a car and to me you have proven it’s not for me. I don’t want range anxiety and I don’t want to plan my trips based on charger locations Yes petrol stations are everywhere and even if I don’t check the next petrol station on my trip there will plenty around with a 5 min top up I know EV fans will disagree but don’t know how given this video speaks for it self
Infrastructure needed. Tesla are way ahead of the rest on this point, though. I deliberately aimed to drain the battery but I could have topped up sooner.
I would hardly call this a real life situation. IRL you would plug that sucker in before going to bed the night before, and have lettuce to spare for the trip. This was fun and informative, but not how you’d roll day to day. I drive a petrol car. When I go on a day trip, say 250km, if my car’s indicated range says ~250km, I don’t say “oh great, let’s see if I make it”. I stick a bit more juice in there so I don’t have to worry about it. Same would go if I was driving an EV I would imagine.
@@PhilDodd you missing the point, yes it is real life. one not everyone can plug it in at night.. maybe you live in a house with an abundance of space many do not.. secondly, yes many times i have got in the car and said let’s go for a drive. infact i did just that a couple of weeks ago and headed of to Bowral. and did not fill up when i left but had no worries fill up on the way back in less than 5 minutes so it is very much how most people would roll everyday. but with an EV, you have to plan your day or week, and check you have reserves in stock before you leave because you just don’t know where the next charge will be and whether or not it’s working and wether or not it’s busy.
@@MrBruster78 I think we agree that owning an EV would be a tough sell if you don’t have access to overnight charging. For me, I would treat it like my mobile phone. I don’t have to plan ahead with my phone to make sure it’s fully charged if I intend to be out of the house the next day. I just plug it in overnight and I know I’m ready for whatever might come up. It would be the same with an EV. If you live in Sydders and you feel like driving to Bowral and back on a Sunday, that’s well within the capabilities of most BEVs. Fossil fuel cars do still have infrastructure advantages though, without a doubt.
04:00 Outside 15° and air condition? That is only because of the glass roof working like an infrared heating at a sunny day. 09:24 Just looked up: Goulburn is 700 m above sea level. So 700 m * 1950 kg * 9.81 Gravitation = 13.39 MJ = 3.72 kWh. This would be at 100% efficiency. 4.13 kWh for 90% efficiency from battery to wheel. Google Maps shows 195 km from Sydney to Goulburn. So 2.12 kWh/100 km extra for the height difference, So all about consumption is irrelevant, as long as You do not mention this 700 m.
@@chasingcars You explained without any number. For example, Vienna is 470 km away from the sea, but only 160 m above the sea. 700 m on 195 km or 160 m on 470 km is a big difference,
Could you go Syd - Canberra if you charged it first? Maybe need a ten minute stop? Canberra to Sydney in one go? Wouldn't the EVIE charger at Sutton Forest be more convenient?
because, like I said, I picked it up brand new at 100%, drove it around in town for about 140km, and then said hey, let’s go to Goulburn and run the battery down to zero
@@chasingcars love a good spontaneous road trip :) Love your work Tom and team - unfortunately you’re gonna get a lot of tesla defenders to dislike this video I’m sure - looking forward to another exhaustion test now! But boy u make me worry if I should have kept the 3 instead of getting the Y!
I was really looking at buying Model Y performance, then I found out that Adelaide only has one Supercharger and internet says that it can take almost 2 days to charge it at home. Infrastructure is just not here yet, and I don’t want to stress when and where should I charge my car. But in 5 years, why not.
@@chasingcars Didn’t know about that… Ten hours sounds much better. We’ll see what happens with fuel prices in next couple of weeks and take it from there. Thanks! 🙂
I know they want to really push EVS, issue I see is when on a road trip, let’s take a break have some breakfast recharge 45min, but wait only 2-3 chargers 10 evs in front so that 45min is now 4hrs.
Still not enough for me, I have 1,000km range in my RAV4 hybrid and I average 2 to 3 hours driving a day for work… Australia 🇦🇺 is big, perhaps these people sitting in a office on their bum’s the whole day should come to Australia for a normal drive…
Bureau of Statistics says average commute for Aussies is 18km for men and 14km for women. You are the exception not the rule. No one vehicle suits all use cases, but most “typical” Aussie commuters would only need to charge a car with 350km range once a week or week and a half, even factoring in weekend extra mileage
@@Mububban23 in the cities with office jobs perhaps, but anyone doing blue color work drive a lot. It’s the divide of us vs them, unfortunately the us make the decision’s and them suffer the consequences.
@@stephansmith1937 yeah well ICE will still be on the road in 2050, by which time I'd certainly hope battery tech and charging infrastructure are up to the task. Also, EV prices will be lower (I hope) and there'll be a second hand market as fleets sell off 2-3 year old cars still under warranty.
This is me also. 2023 RAV Hybrid. Just under 1,000klm range. Averaging around 5.2-5.3 l/100klm. To work for me is 100klm, each way, so 1000klm p/week. I could (and would love to) do this in a Tesla Y. However, it's the "drop-everything and deliver something to Newcastle" moment that stops me.
Great Video and I would love an EV BUT this type of anxiety would kill me; we do lots of these long trips so i don't think an EV is for us. So what happens in the near future when 500 EVs arrive in Goulburn with only 10 or 20 superchargers available?
@@chasingcars Problem with ev chargers is that the distribution companies need to provide the supply point and many of these companies dont have anywhere near the capacity required.
Return average was 14.5kWh/100km - still a fair way above the WLTP claim, but noticeably less than the uphill direction. That meant the final average consumption was 16.3kWh/100km for a 368km range.
You'll do this test now and then in a few months tesla will lock your low voltage cut out on your battery reducing your range significantly so they don't have to pay you out warranty on a failed battery within the warranty period.
Some EV’s have min. to max range spread on their instrument cluster. Telling people a specific range is ridiculous. Range changes on how you drive it. Petrol would have the same exact problem is you said my Holden gets 500 km on a full tank but not while driving on a race track.
Did you ever drove a Tesla ? The in car energy monitor app recalculates every few seconds. The total range also gets calculated over your route from your navigation. Because the car calculates where you have to charge for you.
After filling up in Canberra & then a return trip to Sydney over the last couple of days, I still had 190kms of travel left in my VW Jetta 2012 & that also included driving around Bondi & Coogee for a total of 670kms from a 55 litre tank. Until EV'S have that sort of range, I will stick to my ICE vehicle thanks. No range anxiety for me.
Agree, I get 1100 km from my tanks and dont need to worry about where to fill either. I have been involved in rolling out many EV chargers and I can tell you they break down within a few weeks of operation, extremely unreliable. Also, power infrastructure is lacking here in australia and many distribution companies can only provide around 100 amp capacity which is ok for 50kw charger if you are lucky. Battery technology is still young, give it 10-15 years
This is a bit silly Tom. Why are u making this into a "stessful" range test story. Electric cars are a new technology which require a different approach. I have completed over 25000kms in my EV and I have never been in the situation you " find" yourself in. What did the Tesla navigation tell you to do in terms of charging, when you first put in the destination?
the purpose was simply as I put it, to drive the car from 100 percent to 0 percent (which I did). No need to overthink it. Nor am I saying you have to do this! It’s just a simple test.
The car told him he wouldn't make it unless he did 90. He said yeah, nah, I'll just do 110 and see what happens. OMG! you will never guess what happens 🤔
It certainly does! And it will remain that way for a long time to come! Why? Because Tesla has NO PLANS to refresh the cars exterior styling anytime soon (the design is already 6 years old) And we know that Tesla WILL NOT do any meaningful exterior re-styling, based on how they changed ESSENTIALLY NOTHING on the model S/X refresh last year - a design that was already 10 YEARS OLD!
So, in summary, unless you live on the Lower North Shore in Sydney and work nearby and dine in the inner east, this car is completely useless to you. Those of us n regional areas pure electric cars are totally useless. But, as usual, I have to say first class review as always, Tom. Thankyou.
I think that might be going a little far, David. Remember I deliberately drained the car to 0km here! There are longer-range EVs already on the market and much more to come.
Can you guys test the BMW i4 eDrive40 vs Polestar 2 Long Range Single Motor? Ty :) - i've spotted a few of them and it seems like a good car, i don't know if i'd buy Tesla considering the build quality. great video as always by Tom
Definitely that would be a great comparison! I'm also indecise about the BMW i4 edrive 40, the polestar 2 long range and the Tesla Model Y RWD. I think the model Y it's the one getting the most amount of extras for the lowest price but i don't know how they compare in terms of real range
I hope viewers realize that it is not recommended to discharge the battery below 10% nor charge it to 100%. Doing so will routinely will reduce your range in a much shorter time.
