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Modern Classics Summarized: Lord Of The Flies 

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Well well well. Well well. Well.
I HATE THIS BOOK.
In today's exciting episode, watch a group of stranded preteens become paranoid and homicidal when isolated from a society that apparently only barely manages to suppress the seething cauldron of homicidal instincts roiling just below the surface.
NOTE FROM RED: I'm working on Journey To The West part 3, I promise! I've just had to juggle a few projects at once for the past week, including drawing a music video for another channel entirely. Don't worry, more good stuff is on the way. c:

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@Fischohnerad17
@Fischohnerad17 6 лет назад
I love the fact that Golding's reason for writing the book is basically "I'm a school teacher and British school kids can't keep calm under any circumstances, let alone fending for themselves on an island with no adult supervision"
@rowanheart8122
@rowanheart8122 3 года назад
I have heard British teenagers be compared to wild bears
@guyver441
@guyver441 2 года назад
So...children of literally ANY culture?!
@maucazalv903
@maucazalv903 2 года назад
@@guyver441 yes, that was kind of the point of the book xd most island adventure books give the idea of "British/"every civilized country" kids could overcome these situations thanks to their intelligence" but in a very easy way, kind of like Isekais being power-fantasies based on the idea of being in a less advanced world(? if kind of like "yeah knowing advanced math is good but unless you can cover basics needs like food u wouldn't survive the wild enough to give an actual use to your knowledge" *which honestly I like for some reason*
@princeaz4138
@princeaz4138 2 года назад
@@rowanheart8122 We got called feral hooligans
@blondebishonen
@blondebishonen 2 года назад
can confirm as a British school kid
@superfluous9726
@superfluous9726 3 года назад
I love the fact that this entire book was literally the author complaing about the little assholes he was teaching and wrote and entire book about how if they were forced into a survival situation they'd all die because they suck.
@danwroy
@danwroy 2 года назад
If that were true it would have been a lot worse
@RecordedMercury
@RecordedMercury 2 года назад
You do realize he was also a war veteran and most of what he's saying is a criticism of war and the violence that plauges mankind right?
@RecordedMercury
@RecordedMercury 2 года назад
Imagine missing the entire fucking point of a book. I really doubt he made this book because "kids suck". That's so fucking dumb you even said that
@flightless2680
@flightless2680 2 года назад
@@RecordedMercury Jeez, chill out. Its not that serious.
@julialungan4722
@julialungan4722 2 года назад
@@RecordedMercury chill. Did somebody piss in your cereals?
@laureneras9523
@laureneras9523 3 года назад
We had to write an extended ending for English class. Keeping with the tradition of this book that everything is dust. I wrote Ralph became a depressed and disillusioned alcoholic at a VERY young age (I implied it started right after coming back to civilization) while the others adapted really well and never mentioned it. Jack lied and implied he was the real hero which he used as an adult to give him a rise in politics....my teacher wrote in the notes "Just as depressing...good job!"
@nathanseper8738
@nathanseper8738 3 года назад
The really sad thing is....I can actually see that happening in real life.
@positivelink6961
@positivelink6961 3 года назад
Holy fuck. I can see this actually happening
@mahnoorahmad1690
@mahnoorahmad1690 2 года назад
The fact that you got to write lord of the flies fanfiction In class is just… wow
@Cairo40000
@Cairo40000 2 года назад
I wrote: "The ship then got attacked by japanese fighter planes and the ship explodes and everyone fucking dies."
@GamerAJ-1025
@GamerAJ-1025 2 года назад
Wait they actually asked you to write fanfiction in school?
@creativeusername2202
@creativeusername2202 4 года назад
I always wondered how Ralph and Jack readjust... just see each other in the halls like... “Oh... it’s.. uh... you...” “Yeah.... uh...” “How uh... how ya been?” “Fine.... fine...” “Okay... I uh... gotta go to class” “We murdered two innocent children” “Right then... cya... around..”
@kn1ght-788
@kn1ght-788 4 года назад
I think I need to write a fanfiction, excuse me...
@kn1ght-788
@kn1ght-788 4 года назад
Random Classmate: “Why do you have such a problem with Jack? He doesn’t really seem all that bad.” Ralph: Stares at the camera like Jim Halpert.
@ineffabledolphin9139
@ineffabledolphin9139 3 года назад
KN1GHT - i dare you to write a fic. Link it when ur done
@captivecat5858
@captivecat5858 3 года назад
Well Ralph didn’t kill anyone.
@ghostysstories3104
@ghostysstories3104 3 года назад
so...um... sorry for trying to kill you?
@ReddwarfIV
@ReddwarfIV 6 лет назад
If you are ever stuck on a deserted island, build a giant triangle out of stones, with a fire at each point. This creates an unmistakable distress signal.
@kabobawsome
@kabobawsome 5 лет назад
It works with most geometric shapes really. Mainly because it's extremely unnatural to have several, small, isolated, well-maintained fires in a perfect geometric shape. Triangle is the easiest one, though. Because it has the least number of fires, meaning easier maintenance.
@justme7410
@justme7410 4 года назад
I learn something new everyday. Thank you, people of the internet.
@trod146
@trod146 4 года назад
Yeah because All the effort of building the triangle and finding wood and maintaining 3 fires is totally fucking possible...
@virgin_olive_oil7550
@virgin_olive_oil7550 4 года назад
hmmmmm an ark reference I see
@ram333
@ram333 4 года назад
@Star Saber nice one
@Emilie13love
@Emilie13love 7 лет назад
Golding was actually a teacher at an all boys school and knew how typical boys behaved. So after reading the popular adventure books of young boys living off the land on a dessert island, he thought: "Are you serious? That would never happen. I'll show you the real outcome of pre pubescent boys being forced to share living space and having real responsibilities for 2 years." And thus Lord of the Flies was born.
@katspurway645
@katspurway645 6 лет назад
I would love to live on a dessert island! I'd just eat ice cream until I was sick!
@Ie_Shima
@Ie_Shima 6 лет назад
To be fair much of the original writings, the most popular of which would be "The Coral Island", have the boys be much older, in their mid to late teens, and either acting as crewmen aboard a merchant ship or midshipmen aboard a warship. They were also set much earlier than "Lord of the Flies" ranging from 1690 to 1850ish, in a time when "children grew up much faster" or became more mature in a shorter span of time than, say, a group of prep school pre-teens from 1940's or 50's England. This means that the characters are older, wiser, far more mature, and are most likely capable of actually thinking beyond the next 10 minutes. Also, I have never known a teacher who actually thinks that the brats they have to deal with for 8 hours of the day can be capable of conscious thought without their help.
@hamster_in_a_wheel_8099
@hamster_in_a_wheel_8099 6 лет назад
a DESSERT island not a deserted island but it was a joke on the misspellings of the first comment
@bobshore1977
@bobshore1977 5 лет назад
Btw they were saying big ones and little ones. Littluns and bigguns basically just their accents
@ES50678
@ES50678 5 лет назад
pre-pubescant well off properly spoiled English boys* This book acts like it's a representation of humanity but is only representative of one group of people. Maybe because Golding only recognized white men as human and all others as less he failed to thoroughly think through what would actually happen if humans lost "civilization" and had to live together in the wild. But I mean humans never had to live off the wild without modern amenities.... except for like most of human history.
@Orionzeus05
@Orionzeus05 5 лет назад
Oh you forgot the best part, the Naval Officer finds the boys and berates them, asking how they could act so savagely toward each other and kill one another rather than act civilized, then looks back at his waiting battleship offshore and realizes the war their fighting is a direct mirroring of the violence that the boys commited only on a more grand and organized scale thus showing what happens when those same boys become men in "civilized" society with the same impulsiveness and fears displayed on the island. A pretty epic moment of self awareness and allegory 👍
@orlandogreenhow2870
@orlandogreenhow2870 5 лет назад
Jordan Barnette Doesn’t the naval officer joke that the whole ordeal is just them playing a game resembling war? Also, him appearing right at the end (and the first adult they meet since the pilot) essentially implying that the adult world is just the island but on a much bigger scale as it is just a massive war
@eyegrinder94
@eyegrinder94 5 лет назад
@@orlandogreenhow2870 I would argue that a crazy person rallying an entire country into a giant death cult with the intent of murdering everyone who doesn't have his favourite genes is kind of worth going to war over.
@zennistrad
@zennistrad 5 лет назад
The whole point of the book isn't to expose "human nature," as many English teachers will tell you. It's _specifically_ a commentary on British colonialism and imperialism, demonstrating that beneath all of the British rhetoric about "civilizing" the untamed world, the truth is that they're astonishingly brutal and cruel when stripped of all pretenses. That's why the war that the British are fighting is intentionally made parallel to the events on the island. The entire "British schoolchildren set up Civilization on an island" genre that LotF takes to task was based on a colonialist narrative to begin with.
@kilroy6429
@kilroy6429 4 года назад
**Frantically edits English paper**
@Machialemmi
@Machialemmi 4 года назад
@@eyegrinder94 ashamed German noises
@beretperson
@beretperson 5 лет назад
"Imma call it Shelly" "Seems fair" "So Ralph blows Shelly..." "nO"
@Ohflipsnap
@Ohflipsnap 4 года назад
We haven't even gotten to the gruesome parts of this story and already I'm scarred for life!
@mvmlego1212
@mvmlego1212 4 года назад
While I'm ashamed to say that I got a good laugh out of that, I'm still wondering how that works, anatomically speaking.
@zEr-ne5ri
@zEr-ne5ri 4 года назад
@Mateo Gg I laughed when she said that to............that’s what she said
@Grim_Sister
@Grim_Sister 4 года назад
(Snorts) I’m am a grown woman, I should have grown past this kind of humor
@attackonponyproductions4927
@attackonponyproductions4927 4 года назад
This is immature... but I'm 17 so... Lol!
@Anastas1786
@Anastas1786 5 лет назад
"See, Jack is one of those people who'd rather establish his own badassery than actually get them all rescued." You mean like darn near everyone in _The Walking Dead?_
@dragonheart1236
@dragonheart1236 4 года назад
Everyone in my dnd group...... ..... Including myself
@trod146
@trod146 4 года назад
There is no "rescue" in the walking dead... shitty comparison.
@Cajek2
@Cajek2 4 года назад
...or Trump.
@Apollo_G
@Apollo_G 4 года назад
@@Cajek2 or like 95% of politicians
@aidoll3692
@aidoll3692 3 года назад
@@trod146 honestly i could say something dickish but it just seems your bitter about something and your lasting out...
@gonzothegreat1317
@gonzothegreat1317 6 лет назад
The real horror is at the end of the book, once you realise that all the 'civilisation' talk is made by a grown up, who is in the middle of fighting a war. It's subtle to pick up, but that is the message. Nothing changes. The grownups are even more savage than the boys on the island.
@General12th
@General12th 5 лет назад
If that was completely true, everyone would be murdering everyone else constantly.
@SerDerpish
@SerDerpish 4 года назад
J.J. Shank in absence of laws, that is exactly what happens. To quote Louis CK: “The main thing preventing murder is the law against murder.”
@joycelinlgbtq
@joycelinlgbtq 4 года назад
Actually the real horror was the confusing prose.
@mr.cup6yearsago211
@mr.cup6yearsago211 4 года назад
Julie Walker not necessarily. Like, obviously we need laws, but shockingly, humans are a compassionate species that don’t default to wanting to murder each other in all situations.
@mr.cup6yearsago211
@mr.cup6yearsago211 4 года назад
Kerberos panzer cop I would recommend you attempt to move to the nation named Literally Anywhere Else as soon as you possibly can, because that sounds fucking terrible.
@antonemberbroque4452
@antonemberbroque4452 4 года назад
The real lord of the flies was the friends they made along the way
@hotelbellamuerte3669
@hotelbellamuerte3669 4 года назад
Kinda
@Maxisamo1
@Maxisamo1 4 года назад
The friends they *killed* along the way
@magentaplatinum1430
@magentaplatinum1430 3 года назад
yeah... sure... uh... gonna forget the fact that they doomed their selves several times by killing their own people
@caleb_artzs2533
@caleb_artzs2533 3 года назад
@@Maxisamo1 *Bruh* to true
@KellyCalKelsey
@KellyCalKelsey 3 года назад
You know what that's actually kinda True, the Lord of The Flies himself states that he's inside every human on earth.
@s.g.7572
@s.g.7572 5 лет назад
"And Ralph wept for the end of innocence, the darkness of man's heart and the fall through the air of the true, wise friend called Piggy." One of the most beautiful, thoroughly depressing, emotionally raw endings to any book I've ever read.
@Couch_Banana
@Couch_Banana 4 года назад
Too bad it's kinda ruined by the fact that Ralph and Piggy's friendship isn't built-up all that well.
@adhritray6365
@adhritray6365 4 года назад
But that is not the ending of the book
@laoshij9382
@laoshij9382 4 года назад
@@Couch_Banana How so?
@Couch_Banana
@Couch_Banana 4 года назад
@@laoshij9382 In the final few chapters, it still feels like Ralph doesn't respect Piggy all that much. Sure, he got better at it as the book went on, but it didn't feel like enough really changed between them. That's just me, though.
@thesunwillneverset
@thesunwillneverset 4 года назад
@@adhritray6365 Yes it is, unless you consider there to be an ending beyond the last line of said book?
@goodnewsgeek42
@goodnewsgeek42 6 лет назад
I always thought the dead pilot drifting down was meant to symbolize that deep down the adults are no better than they are. They are sitting here waiting for the good rational adults that are peaceful and orderly to come rescue them, but they don't realize the true adulthood that lies behind that image and don't realize that the adults are slaughtering each other in a world just as barbaric as the one they are making for themselves on that island. They want a signal from the adults and dead pilot showing that the adults are too busy killing each other in their own hell to notice them, is that signal.
@doornik1142
@doornik1142 5 лет назад
You're not far off. At the end of the book when the naval officer chastises the boys for their uncivilized behavior he turns and awkwardly stares at his own warship moored out on the sea.
@ianbyrne465
@ianbyrne465 5 лет назад
The beauty of literature is... Even when you're "wrong" you can still be right. Just because the message you glean isn't the one that the author had in mind, doesn't mean that it doesn't work as a message.
@MrBitz-om9vo
@MrBitz-om9vo 5 лет назад
Damn I wish I had read this before I had to write my paper
@Giganfan2k1
@Giganfan2k1 5 лет назад
As above so below.
@AegixDrakan
@AegixDrakan 5 лет назад
ooooh, I didn't actually realize this on my first read. Good talk, GoodNews Geek.
@discrot8568
@discrot8568 7 лет назад
"This book needs more dead kids" is my new main book critique.
@grantkelly8696
@grantkelly8696 7 лет назад
Andreas Stormdrake Agreed. May sound insane but I feel like if there was more murders it would've better represented the descent to madness.
@ayiniseasilyamused9215
@ayiniseasilyamused9215 7 лет назад
Andreas Stormdrake Considering that the books he was criticising were books with totally unrealistic luck in shipwrecked situations, yeah. Any survival based adventures with kid protagonists needs more dead kids.
@BonDieu617
@BonDieu617 6 лет назад
Go read Worm, the world is slowly getting destroyed by kaijus with superpowers and they're running out of adults with superpowers so a lot of kids with superpowers have to go fight and they all die. It's a pretty upbeat story actually.
@blue-eyedfangirl8760
@blue-eyedfangirl8760 6 лет назад
good to know that like half of all authors are following your writing advice, myself included
@dayalasingh5853
@dayalasingh5853 6 лет назад
Grant Kelly k
@AyakoHideko
@AyakoHideko 2 года назад
One of the most depressing realizations I've come to after I finished reading the book was that we never really got to learn Piggy's real name. He was picked on and bullied so much as well that the fact that we don't even know his name throughout the whole story, and even after his untimely demise made me grief so much harder for him. He truly didn't deserve the end that he met.
@StonedtotheBones13
@StonedtotheBones13 Год назад
I wonder why that is? Maybe for the reason you just stated, I'm just wondering if piggy=adulthood, wth does that mean?
@ellynneg.6926
@ellynneg.6926 4 месяца назад
One of the themes in the book losing personal identity (and morality) to pressures of the group. The boys in the school choir, when they first come walking along in their matching uniforms are compared to being a single beast. The twins (and I think this is their only purpose in the book) are treated as a single entity rather than individuals. Piggy's true name is lost (and his destiny to die as prey to the other boys who hunt pigs is also implied).
@themandownstairs4765
@themandownstairs4765 3 года назад
what the teacher says: "the author is trying to represent the battle of nurture vs. nature, of civilization vs. our innate instinc-" William Golding, who I just raised from the dead: "children are little shits so I wrote a book about it"
@wandanemer2630
@wandanemer2630 3 года назад
I believe that.
@Pyre
@Pyre 3 года назад
This is *absolutely* the correct interpretation.
@emperorthylord
@emperorthylord 3 года назад
Ah, yes my nephew is worse than uncle adolf
@derekbates4316
@derekbates4316 3 года назад
really? Cuz my take was that he liked lil', half naked boys.
@bjjkickboxing7876
@bjjkickboxing7876 3 года назад
@@emperorthylord give your nephew a chance and he will blow the whole european continent up and have no remorse
@calla1643
@calla1643 7 лет назад
What i learned from this book: Don't get too attached to your favorite people. They all die.
@ayiniseasilyamused9215
@ayiniseasilyamused9215 7 лет назад
Derp UmWell Now that you've learned that, go watch Game of Thrones!
@halfaliveclive4697
@halfaliveclive4697 6 лет назад
Or play Danganronpa
@horseenthusiast1250
@horseenthusiast1250 6 лет назад
Simon was my favourite character, so my read was a bit disappointing
@amethyst_cat9532
@amethyst_cat9532 6 лет назад
Most book-series fangirls know this
@daughter-of-loki1062
@daughter-of-loki1062 6 лет назад
You could've learned that from A Song of Ice and Fire.
@cynthiaanderson6410
@cynthiaanderson6410 3 года назад
Imagine Ralph, poor, traumatized Ralph, on that boat ride though. That child was basically glued to an adult the entire time and you can’t convince me otherwise. They killed Simon and Piggy, it’s implied that the tortured the twins, and they just led a manhunt to try and kill Ralph. I doubt he can be in the same room as Jack without panicking.
@chrisnaden3590
@chrisnaden3590 4 года назад
For sheer visceral horror, the moment when one of Jack's boys deliberately crushes Piggy's glasses, and he realises he's now blind on an island, really stuck with me. ... Perhaps I shouldn't have read this book when I was myself 11 years old.
@gabesynnott6506
@gabesynnott6506 3 года назад
I read it yesterday, I'm like 15, and the freaking pig head on a stick talking to Simon is going to haunt me for a while! sure do love english class
@maucazalv903
@maucazalv903 2 года назад
@@gabesynnott6506 I think I read this with 16 but honestly, as an even younger age we read books like "La Mecanica del corazón" and "nada" In the first one, a kid used the needle of his watch-hearth to cut his bully eye, and in the second one they beat a 12-year-old to death and a bunch of kids raped a girl..... *It didn´t traumatize me but it always annoyed me how our school keep saying that violent behavior was caused by exposing kids to violence in things like games or TV and then made us read that xd*
@blackkitty369
@blackkitty369 2 года назад
I read this in middle school and it gave me nightmares for a long time.
@potatoextreme4252
@potatoextreme4252 Год назад
I read it when I was nine. And now I am a 13 year old acting Piggy in a play and it still brings me to tears.
@himesilva
@himesilva Год назад
As a person with a strong glasses prescription... I never ever want to be marooned on a deserted island e.e
@beetlejuiceblues12
@beetlejuiceblues12 5 лет назад
I wrote my senior research paper on this book, and "Jack, who represents... just kinda being the worst." was basically my thesis.
@elenakufta3236
@elenakufta3236 7 лет назад
Ralf: "Follow me and we'll be able to get off the island quickly!" Jack: "No, follow me! I can hit a C note!"
@theodorsik
@theodorsik 7 лет назад
Elena Kufta cant we all see the Trump paralel?
@garbageOwO
@garbageOwO 7 лет назад
Excuse me but it's _C sharp_
@elenakufta3236
@elenakufta3236 7 лет назад
Aw shit! Well then, that changes everything!
@ayaoldacc3580
@ayaoldacc3580 7 лет назад
Or the G note.... Hah I feel the emo coursing through me xD
@EuphrasieFauchelevent
@EuphrasieFauchelevent 7 лет назад
actual quote
@lexin8139
@lexin8139 6 лет назад
We read this first semester freshman year, and as part of it one of the English teachers will blow a conch shell so we could hear it. Fast forward to a couple weeks ago (I'm a sophomore now). We hear a weird bellowing noise. Hardly anyone questions it for more than a couple seconds - "Oh, the freshmen must be reading Lord of the Flies" - and we start reminiscing on the good ol' days of early freshman year.
@atheris1641
@atheris1641 6 лет назад
Lol sounds nice
@onettaviator5396
@onettaviator5396 5 лет назад
Hey, fellow sophomo- oop, wait, junior now. This still happen?
@somedude4967
@somedude4967 5 лет назад
* *INSERT STRESSED OUT JOKE* *
@koramagna
@koramagna 5 лет назад
Wow. Our school 'You-have-to-read-this-thing-I-don't-give-a-damn-you-think-it's-stupid-you-have-to-read-this-or-you-will-prove-you're-idiots-not-worth-of-other-people's-time' (Oooof) books in Poland, are usually about bunch of idiots who are suffering SO MUCH because the evil system/society crush their dreams, totally not because they made stupid life choices. We didn't try to make things like these because exams (ironically, we totally had time to talk about ONE SHORT POEM by Adam Mickiewicz for a whole week, but Orwell's 1984 wasn't so important). The only time we had some deeper interaction with some 'you-have-to-read-it' book was when we were reading Macbeth. And that ended up with school theater, where our class was preparing the whole thing (I was assassinating Lady MacDuff). It kind of bumped me out when I found out that this treatment gets only these classes in which are children of our Teacher of Polish Language (it left sour taste in my mouth, because my younger brother couldn't get involved in such project, just because he wasn't class mate of our Teacher's kids)
@JetstreamGW
@JetstreamGW 4 года назад
I changed schools a lot when I was young. It worked out such that I read this book *five fucking times.* I can no longer stand this story.
@CC-rg3tc
@CC-rg3tc 3 года назад
It gives me indescribable joy to learn that Lord of the Flies was an edgy hatefic for a genre that doesn't exist anymore.
@wjzav1971
@wjzav1971 10 месяцев назад
That's what the Simpsons originally were in the 90s.
@rebelturtle7494
@rebelturtle7494 4 года назад
Just remembering one detail from when I read it for class, the little kid that first started the rumor about the lord of the flies, and then "vanished" didn't just disappear. He was killed in a forest fire all of the other boys started in like, the first or second chapter
@Levsa399
@Levsa399 2 года назад
The Mulberry boy, I remember.
@marcoasturias8520
@marcoasturias8520 2 года назад
Only 3 dead children?! That´s not as high as I imagined...
@Levsa399
@Levsa399 2 года назад
@@marcoasturias8520
@Omnomnomnius
@Omnomnomnius 7 лет назад
Golding was my grandfather's English teacher at the time, and the kids were based on *HIS* English class. He's never told us which one he was part of, but my grandad was in LotF!
@cdkumquat4953
@cdkumquat4953 7 лет назад
Which character do you think represented him, if there was one at all?
@grantkelly8696
@grantkelly8696 7 лет назад
Adam Livneh Plot Twist his grandad represents Rodger.
@atheris1641
@atheris1641 6 лет назад
That sounds super cool lol
@voidnoidoid
@voidnoidoid 5 лет назад
That’s rad!
@Hinatachan360
@Hinatachan360 5 лет назад
Wow, family history is so cool. 😎
@CJusticeHappen21
@CJusticeHappen21 6 лет назад
*New Title:* _Jack and Roger's Excellent Adventure_
@brokenearth7079
@brokenearth7079 4 года назад
*Bill and Ted Air Guitar noises*
@randallmokjialung3592
@randallmokjialung3592 4 года назад
JoRo's Excellent Adventure
@ddietz8778
@ddietz8778 4 года назад
Everyone: *brutally murdering a kid* Simon, being murdered: Dude, bogus.
@klairgreystone4655
@klairgreystone4655 4 года назад
Roger's Bizzare Adventure
@jaxyaboy
@jaxyaboy 3 года назад
More like Jack and Rodger's Bogus Journey
@entr3_nou5
@entr3_nou5 5 лет назад
Every girl in my class: awww Simon is so sweet!! He’s my favourite!! Me, who has read the book before: honey, you got a big storm comin’
@dewmilk7266
@dewmilk7266 3 года назад
The girls in my class liked Jack at the beginning
@rednecromancer2579
@rednecromancer2579 3 года назад
@@dewmilk7266 this is much more accurate to real women.
@dewmilk7266
@dewmilk7266 3 года назад
@@rednecromancer2579 bro i am a real woman also your name is *scott* somehow i doubt you know anything about it
@rednecromancer2579
@rednecromancer2579 3 года назад
@@dewmilk7266 1) I was agreeing with you and 2) why do you use my name in a negative connotation
@dewmilk7266
@dewmilk7266 3 года назад
@@rednecromancer2579 Oops, sorry! I think I misinterpreted your comment! There's nothing wrong with your name, I was trying to imply that as a Scott, you wouldn't know about being a real woman (tho I suppose a transwoman could keep her old name). Sorry about the confusion that was mostly my bad.
@eldritchcupcakes3195
@eldritchcupcakes3195 4 года назад
"this book is meant to shred your faith in humanity" That's long gone, so I'm good.
@RHKang-hl3ps
@RHKang-hl3ps 4 года назад
Ah, nothing like a little bit of dark humor to start the day.
@victorsimmons6769
@victorsimmons6769 2 года назад
*BREAKING NEWS* Man loses additional bit of hope he never knew he had
@beanie_babe_xo6799
@beanie_babe_xo6799 6 лет назад
**brutally kills a kid** **steals a kid's glasses then kills him later** **plans a freaking man hunt for another kid** **sets an entire freaking island on fire cause... reasons** **seriously they should've just left the boy choir** half my class cause they can't think properly for the life of them: "tHe bOYs ArE sO pURe aND SwEeT!!"
@drakenstarcross1347
@drakenstarcross1347 5 лет назад
Amen..... im a sophmore and they all say that about piggy and how they "wouldn't bully him" *BS DETECTED* *edit:wow 160 likes*
@barrocaspaula
@barrocaspaula 5 лет назад
I'm a teacher. Some of my kids would seriously become bullies in the absence of adults. I think the girls would save the day. They are more capable in general.
@AhmadFIksan
@AhmadFIksan 5 лет назад
@@barrocaspaula Funny you say that cause Hollywood apparently has a different idea, as they try to make an All-female Lord of the flies remake lol deadline.com/2017/08/lord-of-the-flies-scott-mcgehee-david-siegel-female-cast-warner-bros-william-golding-novel-1202158421/
@wherethetatosat
@wherethetatosat 5 лет назад
Sounds like my 9th grade English class alright.
@justinbury1945
@justinbury1945 5 лет назад
HAH
@user-ps6do9lu3n
@user-ps6do9lu3n 7 лет назад
I remember hearing that the writer got pissed off because the books portrayed upper class British boys wrong and he knew that on their own they would turn into vicious assholes because of their own socialisation in society
@hellspawnstudios
@hellspawnstudios 6 лет назад
Wouldn't we all?
@caveragefacts3395
@caveragefacts3395 5 лет назад
Yes
@NeutralL12
@NeutralL12 5 лет назад
I mean realistically couldnt Rodger assassinate that asshole guy in the middle of the night with a big rock and tell people the beast did it? Course that would lead him into a villainous area. Which is kinda against his own characters point. Oh
@ea.fitz216
@ea.fitz216 5 лет назад
They're not all upper class. You have Piggy, a working class cockney kid whose Aunt owns a sweet shop, you have the littluns, from all areas of society, Ralph who lives in the countryside in an estate, with a father who is a Naval Commander and the choir, who are upper class dickheads (except Simon, I miss you pal).
@ForrestFox626
@ForrestFox626 4 года назад
He isn't wrong.
@Dr.Sho_Minamimoto
@Dr.Sho_Minamimoto 4 года назад
This reminds me of when I was still in middle school. When we got to this book a teacher thought it would be a good idea to make us go through a thought experiment of what would happen if a random sample groups of the class were put into a similar situation (think “Lord of the flies” D&D edition). As it turns out, I’m a monster who will make sure everyone survives... until they try to kill another person, that’s when they are buried up to their head and get a nice sea spray facial with the tide rolling in.
@MrDraacon
@MrDraacon 4 года назад
I think I'd just try to be on good terms with the person the group chose as leader so I can indirectly control the group a bit. Making suggestions what to do and so on (and not being blamed when something goes wrong of course :)) )
@redpup6931
@redpup6931 4 года назад
Why don't more schools do this? I want to play books disguised as D&D.
@jx7945
@jx7945 3 года назад
red it would definitely get a lot more students interested and focused on the learning.
@acasualcactus5878
@acasualcactus5878 3 года назад
I’d be the one who tries to establish a system of government and then gets thrown off a cliff.
@beccag2758
@beccag2758 3 года назад
I think I’d be that person who’s read too many survival books but nobody really listens to but I can’t go off and survive by myself because group survival is generally a better plan
@nikkiewhite476
@nikkiewhite476 3 года назад
The thing is there have been several actual incidences of groups of children becoming stranded since this book came out. Same age groups even, they worked together to survive, comfort each other and get rescued. I think he projected adult behaviors on the kids characters he wrote about.
@Levsa399
@Levsa399 2 года назад
He was writing about a specific class of kids he taught. Some of the characters were based off of specific students. He wasn’t trying to bash children as a whole, he just wanted to destroy a genre and rant about his class.
@GamerAJ-1025
@GamerAJ-1025 2 года назад
True, kids have actually fared well in some of the instances where this sort of thing has happened.
@starsun6363
@starsun6363 2 года назад
Were they spoiled upper class british kids tho? That's my running theory. Yeah this miiiight have happened (alebit, slower, in my opinion.) but if it had been literally anyone but super entitled bratty rich kids they would have been fine.
@maucazalv903
@maucazalv903 2 года назад
if that works or not depend on their knowledge, if u are on a desert island and don´t know how to cook for example you are kind of death the gang of kids in Lord of the Flies were confident just because "we are British"(?
@chongliyang4044
@chongliyang4044 2 года назад
@@starsun6363 if jack didn't exist probably none of this shit would have happened
@navada4789
@navada4789 4 года назад
“Write your own paper!” I AM T R Y I N G
@tamikapage4337
@tamikapage4337 3 года назад
this video came up as i was in the middle having a panic attack because i have an essay due on this book tomorrow lmaoo and i haven’t read it
@StarshadowMelody
@StarshadowMelody 3 года назад
Pictured: The only reason anyone reads this dumb book.
@tnaoro
@tnaoro Год назад
Here’s when it happens: 5:26
@Pokemonleafmon
@Pokemonleafmon 7 лет назад
Ralph blows Shelly.
@KanaidBlack
@KanaidBlack 7 лет назад
"I'm an adult"
@Pokemonleafmon
@Pokemonleafmon 7 лет назад
KanaidBlack hehehe
@michaelolynyk4319
@michaelolynyk4319 7 лет назад
hahahahahahahaha! press 3 to repeat this as many times as you want.
@howdoilogin
@howdoilogin 7 лет назад
Only an infantile person would laugh at a stupid joke like that. (I laughed for 15 minutes straight after that)
@garbageOwO
@garbageOwO 6 лет назад
If you want more innuendos, read the actual book. It's great. To quote Lord of the Flies itself, "Piggy panted and looked at the glistening thing in his hand." And lots of Jack and Ralph's quarrels seem like breakups.
@poulomi__hari
@poulomi__hari 3 года назад
The irony at the end.... an adult talking some sense to the kids: why y'all fighting like savages. While going back to his battleship.
@thelonelyipad8648
@thelonelyipad8648 3 года назад
I literally never realised this and I have a paper on this book thanks so much
@williamcrowe2576
@williamcrowe2576 5 месяцев назад
Classic case of Pot Meet Kettle.
@T_Dun
@T_Dun 4 года назад
I love this book. It's horribly depressing but the feeling one gets after reading quickly through the last chapter of the chase and then the end... incredible. My favourite part is where the naval officer asks if anyone's dead, half jokingly, and Ralph responds with something like 'just two'.
@TheFrugalVideoGamer
@TheFrugalVideoGamer 5 лет назад
You forgot one interesting parallel at the end, though - the adult berating them was, as you mentioned, a naval officer, and the final line in the book was him looking at the (war) cruiser in the distance as he allowed the boys to regain their composure. The adults are no better than the children in regards to violence.
@VelvetCondoms
@VelvetCondoms 7 лет назад
I actually liked Lord of the Flies, but my view of humanity is a little ... bitchy.
@renrenthemadscientist
@renrenthemadscientist 7 лет назад
Nate Watson and if you want to be nicer say cynical. Or pessimistic.
@oddluck4180
@oddluck4180 7 лет назад
clood lunk Or a realist.
@VelvetCondoms
@VelvetCondoms 7 лет назад
That was deliberate word choice. If I was merely cynical or pessimistic, I would just find the story to be realistic to the point of being boring. But I genuinely enjoy that it's so soul crushing, because I enjoy stories that deconstruct any form of idealism in our society.
@IngoSchwarze
@IngoSchwarze 7 лет назад
+Nate Watson: Maybe surprisingly, excessive idealism happens to be the main weakness of the book. It essentially says "if only we are a bit more considerate of each other, and consciously restrain our inner leaning towards destructiveness, we can make this world a better place". Unfortunately, that is only a necessary condition towards the goal, not a sufficient one. It does show that humans must establish Order without establishing (or rather, at the same time as dissolving) Power, but it lacks any hint that, while wont of kindness and love may be the first hindrance on that path, and in that sense a major one, it is far from the only hurdle and certainly not the hardest one to overcome.
@aronpuma5962
@aronpuma5962 7 лет назад
While I can appreciate it's deconstruction, and I can like a lot of the language, I can't quite embrace the soul crushing as something as, real as advertised. This book wants to be the realist yo, and, it isn't. That's mainly because a character like Ralph is not realistic, and once everyone starts feeling like, hungry, and wet, and cold, and do not want to sleep on sand, they would not be so bitchy toward the idea of getting rescued, or at least I don't think any child would be.
@Mantella4606
@Mantella4606 5 лет назад
So you read all the magical British schoolchild books, eh? But did you read, *The Magic Treehouse Series?*
@awkward_chaos8322
@awkward_chaos8322 4 года назад
YESSS
@Rie_Bot
@Rie_Bot 4 года назад
omg I remember being addicted to it all those years ago lol
@leeschelly8384
@leeschelly8384 3 года назад
Oh my gosh, I LOVED those books!
@adriholt4277
@adriholt4277 3 года назад
I read those in first grade
@doriangrayapologist
@doriangrayapologist 3 года назад
they're from pennsylvania,,,
@RobbieTaylor
@RobbieTaylor Год назад
If you want your faith restored, the story was inspired by a real-life situation in which a troop of Boy Scouts was marooned on an island for some time before being rescued. Contrary to Golding's dismal view of how children would react to a lack of external order, they kept themselves fine, tended to the sick and wounded, and were generally a great bunch of kids who came through the worst survival training ever with flying colors
@hatch2273
@hatch2273 7 лет назад
Im glad I watched this before I read it. For some reason I thought the kids would go on an adventure and the Lord of the flies would be the main antagonist. But apparently he's just a dead pig.
@JoyAndAgony
@JoyAndAgony 7 лет назад
Hatch22 i wonder why the entire book was named after a seemingly small detail? i guess it weighs a lot metaphorically speaking, but for my simple mind, a title should give you a glimpse into the book, not just... a "roll credits!" sensation in the middle-to-end of it
@exomancer3632
@exomancer3632 7 лет назад
Actually, The "Lord of The Flies" is the English translation of the word Beelzebub- otherwise known as the devil. The title is both foreshadowing and a *very* christian explanation at the dissolution of society.
@kaziislam2785
@kaziislam2785 7 лет назад
Hatch22 dude, the pig was a representation. In the fever dream that Simon has thinking that the pig is talking to him, it calls itself the beast and that it says that it is a part of him. The lord of the flies _is_ an antagonist, it a hideous, savage monster, its the embodiment of evil, and it exists in everybody.
@samwelltarly6700
@samwelltarly6700 7 лет назад
The Lord of the Flies is Satan aka the evil that lurks in everyone. The rotting, fly-ridden pig's head on a spike is rather Golding telling us what he thinks about humanity.
@ferretprince4054
@ferretprince4054 6 лет назад
yeah from what i've seen people use the devil and beelzebub interchangeably but from the -admittedly little research i've done on it- beelzebub and satan are two different entities. the devil is...the devil obviously and beelzebub is like the chief demon of sloth or something. satan i saw was typically associated with either wrath or pride. but yeah when people say beelzebub "the lord of the flies", nine times out of ten they referring to satan....for some reason. anyway knowing this, the title makes perfect metaphorical sense, and i'm sure a ton of people have beaten you over the head with this by now. so sorry, i'm one of them -_-
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 7 лет назад
"I must say that anyone who moved through those years without understanding that man produces evil as a bee produces honey, must have been blind or wrong in the head." -William Golding
@rhyzvanic3660
@rhyzvanic3660 7 лет назад
I for one do not project malice onto other people, especially since I don't have PTSD from one of the world wars.
@Thorntonian
@Thorntonian 7 лет назад
So the average person makes 1 1/2 teaspoons of evil in their life? That's not too bad, actually.
@barleysixseventwo6665
@barleysixseventwo6665 7 лет назад
Dude, the next most intelligent species we know of are Apes and Dolphins who are wanted murderers and rapists respectively. I say we're doing pretty well. Me, 4 seconds ago
@Enderchangling
@Enderchangling 7 лет назад
More that they both do both
@kaziislam2785
@kaziislam2785 7 лет назад
Tomorrow We Live damn. Pessimist is an understatement.
@ThiccFish
@ThiccFish 5 лет назад
YOU MISSED THE IMPORTANT PART OF THE ENDING. The naval officer looks back at his own ship and pauses briefly.
@CMAlongi
@CMAlongi 3 года назад
Fun fact: something similar to this actually happened. Some boys got stranded on an island for a year and a half. But, unlike these jerks, they actually worked together, looked after each other when one of them got injured, and were all rescued. Someone once pointed out that Lord of the Flies is really only an accurate prediction for entitled white boys of upper class. But if you get poorer people (who have been scientifically proven to be more empathetic) and/or people from oppressed minority groups in this situation, the chances of murder go way down.
@wegner7036
@wegner7036 2 года назад
Empathy is not a proven science. And the way people act in the upper class is due to the society that is the upper class. Take a poor person and throw him into upper class society and he'll pick up the attitude after a few days. Throw an entitled rich kid to the train's cargo cars and it'd take just as long to adjust. As someone who often travels long distances on foot (because planes are expensive are cars are terrifying), it's in communities where co-reliance and co-dependence are necessities where you'll find the most compassionate folk. I'd form a half-theory it's a phenomenon related to Stockholm syndrome, but I'm not a sociologist.
@solsystem1342
@solsystem1342 2 года назад
@@wegner7036 when you have to depend on eachother for survival cooperation and kindness is your best strategy because pissing people off/breaking connections could kill you. It's just a natural consequence of the circumstances from a purely rational perspective.
@blackjoker2345
@blackjoker2345 2 года назад
Wasn't that "real life lord of the flies" that the media was a buzz about a group of college friends who were Purposely trying to find an Island to live on? That was a Very different scenario to the book...
@solsystem1342
@solsystem1342 2 года назад
@@blackjoker2345 there have been a lot of situations where a group of people get stuck on an island.
@blackjoker2345
@blackjoker2345 2 года назад
@@solsystem1342 And lots of them end with the group trying to kill each other. not just "little white boys"(seriously, racist much?) like the OP said.
@devinaughney8329
@devinaughney8329 7 лет назад
"So Ralph blows Shelly" I LITERALLY LAUGHED SO HARD MY MOM HEARD ME FROM DOWNSTAIRS IM SO MATURE
@MidoriMushrooms
@MidoriMushrooms 6 лет назад
same, and the "I am an adult" part I said out loud before even reading it ;v
@ooficusrex3347
@ooficusrex3347 5 лет назад
XD I've watched this vid multiple times before and I always laugh at that
@raspberrycrowns9494
@raspberrycrowns9494 5 лет назад
It's not that funny...
@General12th
@General12th 5 лет назад
There's nothing immature about laughing at sexual references. Sex is, by definition, a mature practice.
@opticalyoutube5597
@opticalyoutube5597 4 года назад
@@General12th lol nerd
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 7 лет назад
My head canon is that after getting on the boat they don't have to deal with pesky readjustment because as they are in a war the ship is attacked and they all die
@kokobean5921
@kokobean5921 7 лет назад
Why?
@julianathomas8597
@julianathomas8597 7 лет назад
Aren't you a pessimist
@crimsonscourge8539
@crimsonscourge8539 6 лет назад
Merritt Animation ok
@zuha9541
@zuha9541 6 лет назад
Makes sense, pesky readjustment sounds like a nightmare equally as traumatizing as the Island itself.
@coyowolf4609
@coyowolf4609 6 лет назад
Perfect ending!
@mufffin4582
@mufffin4582 5 лет назад
You forgot to mention that Simon already knew that the beast was inside them. But couldn't explain it. And when he tried Jack just said poop and the kids laughed at him
@CalliopePony
@CalliopePony 5 лет назад
Fun fact: You can't start a fire with a near-sighted person's glasses. (Piggy is specifically stated to be near-sighted in the book.) The curvature of the lenses diffuses the light instead of concentrating it. Your best bet would be with glasses made for a far-sighted person.
@buchling1
@buchling1 8 лет назад
Man I am glad I found this channel. You guys are the best :)
@nondescriptindividual3793
@nondescriptindividual3793 7 лет назад
this video helped b/c I had to read this book for the next school year :) -The Late Commenter
@leonardofranzinribeiro4220
@leonardofranzinribeiro4220 7 лет назад
LieutenantPants Yeap.
@lexijuliette2362
@lexijuliette2362 7 лет назад
Me too!!
@felted_catfish
@felted_catfish 6 лет назад
Cool
@stefanmakhoul9934
@stefanmakhoul9934 6 лет назад
Ikr she's soooooo good
@khaosreborn7899
@khaosreborn7899 6 лет назад
Okay, I fully expected this to be about Beelzebub the actual Lord of the Flies, but hormonal teenagers with murdering tendencies is pretty much right up my alley.... so carry on
@horseenthusiast1250
@horseenthusiast1250 6 лет назад
Khaos Reborn I just wanted Beezlebub to actually show up and like, haunt the island or something instead of having a hallucinated conversation with Simon as a pig’s head
@Dr.Sho_Minamimoto
@Dr.Sho_Minamimoto 4 года назад
@@horseenthusiast1250 We can always treat the pig head on a pike as Simon's inner daemon, much like an avatar of Beezlebub to the slowly deteriorating mind of an unwell child.
@manmoy4104
@manmoy4104 3 года назад
Beelzebub is kinda present in the book already if you interpret the Beast as the Devil
@pancakes8670
@pancakes8670 3 года назад
Well Beelzebub is commonly associated with war, and this book as a heavy war theme and portraying the savagery of Humanity. So I think it checks out
@colt9836
@colt9836 2 года назад
@@Dr.Sho_Minamimoto It's heavily implied that the Pig Head *is* Beelzebub, symbolizing that darkness even exists within childern.
@verity_amo
@verity_amo 4 года назад
We studied this book in high school, and honestly I thought it was great. I loved all of the motifs, the symbolism, etc. There is so much more that can be said about this book and what it means.
@pforgottonsoul
@pforgottonsoul 3 года назад
i'm kinda disappointed that so many people hate this book i personally loved it.
@solsystem1342
@solsystem1342 2 года назад
I read it by myself but I've always felt like I get more invested in books about children when they're in really messed up situations. I guess it's hard for me to relate to children who lived lives without serious trauma? It feels unreal to me even if I'm aware some people experience it. That being said I need forewarning it's going to be dark. Previously lighthearted stories that try to pull that make me mad. Sometimes I get invested in other things to. Like fantastical worlds and animals and whatnot I just noticed looking back this was a trend.
@derronmendel9650
@derronmendel9650 5 лет назад
I love how you casually skipped over the first time jack sets the island on fire, or the horrific detail with which the book describes Piggy’s BRAINS splatting out of his head when the rock drops on him. But yeah, RIP Shelly, I guess.
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 6 лет назад
"Are there any dead?" "Just two, Sir."
@_aiseyahreads.1477
@_aiseyahreads.1477 3 года назад
yeah, about this-- what about that kid with the mulberry birthmark? shouldn't there be three? I was so confused lol
@Levsa399
@Levsa399 2 года назад
Mulberry boy: Am I joke to you?
@asageadayart
@asageadayart 2 года назад
@@_aiseyahreads.1477 I think his death was only implied since he went missing during the fire. They also weren't able to keep track of just how many littluns there were when they first congregated, since they were all wondering off. Therefore, there could have been a lot more that nobody knew about since the boys were all coming from different schools.
@rockuboi9121
@rockuboi9121 7 лет назад
"I'm an adult" - Red
@pRahvi0
@pRahvi0 5 лет назад
It's good to remind yourself (and others) every now and then. :P
@davehoffman4659
@davehoffman4659 5 лет назад
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@rongusta11
@rongusta11 5 лет назад
Me 2
@js66613
@js66613 3 года назад
Allegedly.
@therafmaster5958
@therafmaster5958 4 года назад
Jack's Mom- So, how was the island, I guess? What'd you do? Jack- *nothing*
@alienz8641
@alienz8641 5 лет назад
"I HATE THIS BOOK" Can't say that I blame you Red. Can't say that I do.
@noysho1281
@noysho1281 6 лет назад
I owe my mental health to red, i realised after three chapters that i can't finish this work of pure evil but this video got me through the basic knowledge test.
@ginnundso
@ginnundso 4 года назад
same
@ginnundso
@ginnundso 4 года назад
Literally I tried reading this book and normally, when I read books, I read really fast and I am most of the times captivated that I am able to read like idk 10 sites in 15 minutes or so But everytime I tried reading this book I got tired after just one site and to not fall asleep I have to stop reading lol This never happened to me before lmaooo
@js66613
@js66613 3 года назад
You also owe her precisely one human soul.
@weiqi3916
@weiqi3916 5 лет назад
Jack is a really interesting character. When my English teacher said that other character “shifts” to savagery except for Jack and Roger who are savages in the first place I say nah, Jack gone through a process too, remember he can’t kill the piglet at first? Remember one if the first line he said? “We’re British, not savages.” Well Jack, you don’t say. ◉‿◉ It’s like he just flipped a light switch and poof he a freakin savage. It’s like he just do whatever he believes will give him the most prestige regardless of morals or values. I got a feeling that he will be one of the first to adapt back to civilization once they got back (granted he won’t be sent to reformation camps or something like that for what he did).
@Wheezr
@Wheezr 5 лет назад
"Ralph blows Shelly" NOw the image of one of my classmates BLOWING another one of my classmates is forever branded in my head. Thanks for nothing Red
@ashinjoy9368
@ashinjoy9368 3 года назад
Noo
@u_s_e_rname
@u_s_e_rname 3 года назад
Oh no
@MrDraacon
@MrDraacon 4 года назад
5:39 \*A kid is crushed to death by a boulder* Red: "Shelly!! Nooo!! " While not caring about the kid at all
@giorgiomezzanzanica3693
@giorgiomezzanzanica3693 2 года назад
If the author wanted us to care he could have killed his character less comically. (
@MrDraacon
@MrDraacon 2 года назад
@@giorgiomezzanzanica3693 Very true. He should've known that these scenes would become peak comedy.
@alexandresobreiramartins9461
@alexandresobreiramartins9461 6 лет назад
You know, you'd probably make for a much better literature teacher than most, especially when it comes to engaging your audience. I've read all the books you've summarized and overly-sarcasticized XD and I have been a literature professor myself, and wish I had half your ability to talk about these classical works. Great video, as usual.
@void-creature
@void-creature 5 лет назад
does it count as murder if there are no adults to yell at you? that honestly killed me
@arzzeyy
@arzzeyy 2 года назад
so how come you are commenting this if you are dead?
@docette2015
@docette2015 5 лет назад
I remember reading this book in school -- and I remember enjoying it simply because I considered it a great thriller/horror story. Jack is downright creepy, man. As is good old Roger -- and the really sad part is, because of the time period of the book, it's unlikely any of them got the help they needed upon rescue. Feel-good novel indeed!
@landofthehazymist
@landofthehazymist Год назад
even now therapy or any kind of mental health services, let alone anything adequate, is impossible or near impossible to access for a lot of people, myself included
@BradK4444
@BradK4444 2 года назад
When I was in grade school, every adult I knew used this book as a "this WILL happen if boys get stranded on an island." A few years later, the news reported about the real British boys who really were stranded on an island and worked together for months. Nobody died or staged a violent mutiny or anything.
@morgant.dulaman8733
@morgant.dulaman8733 Год назад
Part of me wonders if those kids read this book, or one's similar to it, and that had a hand in keeping anyone from doing something remarkably stupid or violent.
@batchuswati3007
@batchuswati3007 6 лет назад
You know, if you were teaching this book, I might have actually enjoyed it. High school English destroyed the lord of the flies for me. In hindsight, it really was an amazing(and not amazing cuz murder) book.
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 5 лет назад
Batchu Swati It always does
@shorewall
@shorewall 5 лет назад
@@emblemblade9245 I remember my college freshman english class being the first time that I realized that the books I was reading were being ruined by the education process. I can remember books being ruined by school before, but this was the first time I was cognizant of it happening as it occurred.
@Machialemmi
@Machialemmi 4 года назад
Murder is amazing
@ucnguyen6375
@ucnguyen6375 4 года назад
I was trauma for a month after reading this book
@seamusburke639
@seamusburke639 4 года назад
Feel ya there. High school English class was my introduction to Ray Bradbury. Y'know what book of his they had us read first? "Dandelion Wine", which is insufferably twee and probably Bradbury's worst book. Years later I discovered "Farenheit 451" and was like YOU COULDN'T OPEN WITH THIS?!
@RunawayComics
@RunawayComics 7 лет назад
Maybe you could do a Brothers Grimm fairytale saga? Not sure if that will restore faith in humanity per say but it will be entertaining
@ariannaclearwater4973
@ariannaclearwater4973 6 лет назад
Whoop whoop brothers grim 😊
@Azalea_rose
@Azalea_rose 6 лет назад
I actually hate to break it to you but most of the stores are really dark and just destroyed your faith in Humanity before Disney got to them
@Azalea_rose
@Azalea_rose 6 лет назад
Your funny you look seriously some of the lesser-known Grimm stories we're really messed up can you tell me this one about a beaver person who murdered people with a Golden axe
@Azalea_rose
@Azalea_rose 6 лет назад
Sorry. Got screwed up a little bit and voice to text
@barrocaspaula
@barrocaspaula 6 лет назад
Awesome tales but somewhat dark.
@clavesseptem7223
@clavesseptem7223 3 года назад
Fun history note: There actually WAS a group of kids who got stranded on a deserted island! Except they didn't turn into little murdering jerks. They banded together and got everyone safely rescued/returned home. Reference date: 18 June 1965. Some Tongan boys wanted to get away from their uh....Catholic school (who can blame them honestly?) and run off. They get stranded on a remote island for 15 months. One of the lads, specifically the one named Mano, told all about it in an interview years later.
@ninjamonkey2251
@ninjamonkey2251 4 года назад
"Why don't you want kids?" See above.
@tron-do7ii
@tron-do7ii 6 лет назад
2:01 "I'm an adult" Yup, even in the twenty first century on one of quite possibly one of the darkest books I've read, sex jokes are still aparent... yup
@Ambibop
@Ambibop 5 лет назад
In my current (Sophmore) english class we are reading lord of the flies for one unit. And everyone in my class just LOVES Jack, going on about how he's the best character and how great he is! The things they will learn in time...
@kamronspencer4910
@kamronspencer4910 4 года назад
life is not okay for me unfortunately jack appeals to a large portion of people becuase despite how horrible he is he’s basically the stereotypical “fun jock cool kid” who lets everyone do fun things even though those fun things make it actively harder to actually live properly and due to that character type even his bullying is ignored by most who weren’t bullied themselves for the same reason real bullying is ignored in real life. It only when he starts killing people that it starts to dawn on a lot of people how horrible he actually is
@eithandjdjd4902
@eithandjdjd4902 3 года назад
This
@yellowstarproductions6743
@yellowstarproductions6743 2 года назад
Agreed
@Stormkrow280
@Stormkrow280 5 лет назад
When my class was reading this in school we were split up into groups and preformed the scene where Simon talks to the pigs head in sort of a competition. My group won because of my reading the part of the lord of the flies, I had chosen to do a suave, smooth voice with a hint of a threat and had the entire class riveted with my performance
@floridamancode_e2673
@floridamancode_e2673 5 лет назад
the fact that they were found by a naval officer is actually a super important detail. he berates them for being savage and violent when he was literally on his way to kill people.
@littleblueclovers
@littleblueclovers 6 лет назад
Oh man, I *hated* this book as a kid. Calling it a horrible downer would be an understatement. Any character that was even somewhat likable was ignored, tortured and/or killed and... ugh, man... there was hardly anything to look forward to. I was just glad Ralph made it out alive. I wished everyone else died or something through.
@redballoon9007
@redballoon9007 4 года назад
Piggy didn’t deserve any of it though...
@tiredoptimist277
@tiredoptimist277 4 года назад
I also hate this book. A lot. I find it completely impossible. At least in today's society also the leaders are all like 11? Right. They should know better and know about the war. Plus Simon has a mental illness and I often felt his character made no sense and was just a cheap way to make you sad.
@bettiegabrsek741
@bettiegabrsek741 4 года назад
@@tiredoptimist277 I agree, the book makes you think all people are evil. If you need your faith in humanity back, just remember that a situation like lord of the flies actually happened in the sixties. Six boys were stranded on a deserted island for 15 months and unlike their book counterparts, they managed to keep sane and work together all that time.
@tiredoptimist277
@tiredoptimist277 4 года назад
@@bettiegabrsek741 Oh wow really? I didn't know that. That's really interesting.
@crimsonstrykr
@crimsonstrykr 4 года назад
Man, you must really hate books then. If you ever come across a good literature book that DOESN'T involve depressing things then let me know ok fruit cake? Jesus.
@kenkastlekausmo701
@kenkastlekausmo701 6 лет назад
"He had first discovered the idea of having a happy story in kid books, and was having none of it." *Extreme zoom-in* I can't help but find that humorous. :)
@asperRader
@asperRader 4 года назад
"Ralph blows Shelly" we stan a boy comfortable with a trans girl
@dumbb6178
@dumbb6178 4 года назад
RV Tis a joke M'lady
@pines3326
@pines3326 4 года назад
@@The-wo2lq Read the line again and think about it
@attackonponyproductions4927
@attackonponyproductions4927 4 года назад
@@pines3326 who is to say Shelly isn't a hermaphrodite?
@pines3326
@pines3326 3 года назад
@@attackonponyproductions4927 That would be good too if it were biologically possible
@arandomcomment1092
@arandomcomment1092 3 года назад
The joke is the fact that they’re too young, RV
@RaitheaFilms
@RaitheaFilms 3 года назад
Here's a quick restoration of some faith in humanity. This premise actually did happen off the coast of Tonga. In 1965 6 boys set out on a boat they knicked and proceeded to strand themselves on an island, 'Ata. And the exact opposite thing from that dumb book happened (btw I have never liked that book since I first read it in HS) The boys looked after each, even when 1 broke his leg the others made sure he rested and recouped. They were stranded for 15 MONTHS! before they were finally able to flag down a passing ship.
@niyar.2791
@niyar.2791 8 лет назад
i liked it a little bit and I'd like to see Animal Farm
@Hecatonicosachoron
@Hecatonicosachoron 8 лет назад
+Ninja Niya A (fairly old) animated version of that has been done, and it's pretty decent (all things considered) - have you seen it?
@niyar.2791
@niyar.2791 8 лет назад
+Jason93609 Nope. Thanx for telling me
@profmalicious
@profmalicious 8 лет назад
+Ninja Niya There's also a live action version made in 1999 that's pretty good too. Both versions tack their own endings onto the official ending, and they really represent the time period each film was made in.
@donpacificbobcat9er615
@donpacificbobcat9er615 7 лет назад
Niya R. Ohhhhhhhh yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes!
@zucc9944
@zucc9944 7 лет назад
+profmalicious Would you mind spoiling the endings? I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be seeing the films anytime soon.
@kirstenpaff8946
@kirstenpaff8946 7 лет назад
My reaction to Lord of the Flies was "How on Earth does this author make murder sound so boring?". I would have lost my faith in humanity, if I hadn't already lost any emotional investment I had in the story within the span of the first two pages.
@Orthos4
@Orthos4 7 лет назад
Kirsten Paff Watch the (modern) movie and you will also lose your faith in even halfway ration decisionmaking.
@chosokamosgf
@chosokamosgf 6 лет назад
IKR
@rustyfisher2081
@rustyfisher2081 6 лет назад
I personally never got that vibe, what part of it made you lose interest so fast?
@TF2CrunchyFrog
@TF2CrunchyFrog 6 лет назад
@Kirsten Paff: So you feel murder should rather be exciting and glamorous, like in a Hollywood action movie? * edges away from you *
@helenanilsson5666
@helenanilsson5666 6 лет назад
CrunchyFrog No one said anything about glamorous. I'd imagine that OP meant that it should have been more scary or horrifying, since "boring" is pretty much a non-reaction - the opposite to what you should feel about a murder no matter what the genre is.
@rainbowpearlvlogsandanimations
I remember my local youth theatre group put on a play of Lord of the Flies, which I was incredibly surprised by considering how dark the story was, and the fact we were only a few years younger than the characters- turns out it remained pretty faithful to the source material (though we did add a few female characters so everyone could have a role and double-casted all the important ones from the book), but what I find interesting is that we changed the ending a little. We kept the murder stuff, using red glitter for blood, but when the naval officer appears, we had him say something like ‘I see you were all playing a game! Not a very safe situation to play in, I see, but I hope you all played nicely…’ and then ended it with the characters looking at each other awkwardly, the final line being spoken by Ralph: ‘Yes… nicely…’ and the characters following the naval officer off… though a little more optimistic, as it insinuates that the kids can and want to change and be better people, I feel like it lessened the blow of the original source material. Then again, it had to be an appropriate ending for a show performed by ten-year-olds!
@redshirt8611
@redshirt8611 4 года назад
“Go write your own paper” I feel like I’m being called out and I’ve already passed all of the English classes I need for college
@coldcovoi5408
@coldcovoi5408 6 лет назад
R.I.P Simon, the only reasonable character.
@aidantran3409
@aidantran3409 6 лет назад
I heard "shred your faith in humanity" and immediately liked, shared, subscribed, and connected to the video on a level unfathomable to the human consciousness regarding interdimensional planes.
@Geek69420
@Geek69420 4 года назад
Ralfs bizzare adventure *Ceasar's death music plays as the bolder gets pushed onto piggy* Ralf: Piggggyyyyy
@imperialistbrit128
@imperialistbrit128 3 года назад
This is completely accurate for the mindset of young boys, when I was in school at around fifteen a bunch of us got sent on a wilderness survival thing and about two days in I went to go for a piss only to see a slug stuck to a tree with its guts hanging out below it, as I looked around I noticed, all of the trees, had slugs stuck to them with their guys hanging out, a little later I found out why as I saw one of the year 7’s of the group go up to a tree with a slug on it, and using one of the pairs of small harder shears we had to cut branches with, stick the blunt end of said shears into the slugs breathing hole and close the blade, which cut the slug open and its guys dropped out, needless to say then little bastards made bows shortly afterwards and started trying to shoot the rest of us with sharpened sticks and generally piss everyone else off to the point that the “goodietwoshoes” of the group who was my age, yeet one of these sharped sticks back at a kid after being shot and nearly skewerd this kids eye. In short, barbarianism is only one unsupervised group of kids away from becoming reality
@Jemini4228
@Jemini4228 6 лет назад
Why is it that so many school studied books have such a cynical view of human nature?
@knightofarkronia8652
@knightofarkronia8652 4 года назад
Jenny Sweeney It really says something about the school system.
@arandomcomment1092
@arandomcomment1092 3 года назад
They wanna trick students into thinking that their depression isn’t from school, it’s part of the human condition
@sarahamira5732
@sarahamira5732 3 года назад
Because human mmnature isn't really fantastic most of the time.
@KaiseaWings
@KaiseaWings 7 лет назад
I've heard someone say that the point of the book was a critique on the notion that the English are the most civilised genteel people EVER and clearly superior to everyone else, a popular notion at the time. Less a reflection on humanity as a whole.
@jorgepeterbarton
@jorgepeterbarton 6 лет назад
but also, morals are learnt, not intrinsic and instilled by a god for which satan tempts us from. more like the opposite. #nihilism.
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 6 лет назад
+jorgepeterbarton That is not nihilism...
@jorgepeterbarton
@jorgepeterbarton 6 лет назад
I need no channel youtube! What isnt nihilism? How is a lack of intrinsic meaning and morality not nihilism?
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 6 лет назад
+jorgepeterbarton I jave misread your comment. I apologise. Still, nihilism alao includes the addendum.that morals are useless and life is meaningless. Without those you have existentialism.
@jorgepeterbarton
@jorgepeterbarton 6 лет назад
I need no channel youtube! True. Arguably lotf doesnt give much in the way of that. As a few will say, exhistentialism will come from rejecting a preceeding position of nihilistic despair.
@raptorkid7477
@raptorkid7477 5 лет назад
Thank you for helping me get an A on a test for a book I haven’t read
@pesky2746
@pesky2746 5 лет назад
"A ship was passing." 3:20 I love those kind of ships.
@bellablackmist5033
@bellablackmist5033 6 лет назад
Mwahahahahahaha! Now I have ALL THE SPOILERS FOR MY HONORS ENGLISH CLASS! MWAHAHAHAHAH!
@bellablackmist5033
@bellablackmist5033 6 лет назад
*secretly cries when no one's looking cuz it's my own fault for clicking on the video*
@orecvetkovic904
@orecvetkovic904 4 года назад
@@bellablackmist5033what the hell happened here
@kamomile_tea
@kamomile_tea 7 лет назад
That book fucked up my weekend. Thank God there's channels like this which make absolutely hilarious jokes to make me forget the horrible feelings of death and the questions of morality.
@floricel_112
@floricel_112 3 года назад
Yeah, I think I for once prefer the french counterpart of this story, Two Years Vacation by Jules Verne. Same premise, same ending, but the pack of rowdy kids actually get their act together, learn to survive and cooperate, create their own little community and keep up with their studies with varied degrees of success depending on their age: the younger children are able to be taught by their older mates while they have to make do with whatever study materials they had with them on the boat that didn't get soaked
@giantpinkcat
@giantpinkcat 2 года назад
"The littlins being the youngins and the biggins being the source of every problem" Just like in real life.
@finaldarkfire
@finaldarkfire 6 лет назад
Funny story: When I had to read this book in highschool, I somehow unknowingly skipped over the scene where Simon gets killed, so the first time I found out that he was dead was when I read this one shot passage at the end of a chapter describing his corpse floating out to sea. Needless to say I was... confused, to say the least.
@0ctopusComp1etely
@0ctopusComp1etely 6 лет назад
Ooo, I love this book. It's symbolically rich enough that an entire island of young boys could survive on its provocative thoughts alone. Or make them question the very foundations of rationality and what it means to be human. Either way. Somewhat on that same note, Samneric represent Rationality coupled with the desire to Survive. Call them primitive survival instincts vs conscious thought, if you will. They are the first older boys to "believe" in the beast, symbolizing the dawning realization of the boys' society that they will have to defend themselves from any inherent threats that may occur on the island since they haven't yet and likely WON'T receive any adult help on the island. It's the catalyst that begins the inherent fear that permeates the latter half of the book, and the escalation of relying on brute force to survive an unfamiliar situation vs calmly thinking it through. Samneric are also the last two to "yield" to Jack's hunters, after being kidnapped and tortured. Jack's primal representation of dominance-through-violence takes hold of the last bastions of Rationality and ultimately force them to choose: succumb to the fear-induced craze of survival instincts to live to the next day and abandon the only remaining shreds of civility that could hold back that inherent barbaric nature, or... well, die? Samneric's last talk with Ralph is Rationality effectively stating inwardly that Civility will be abandoned because it's no longer needed in the current situation, and would only serve to hold survivability itself back.
@thatotherguy8138
@thatotherguy8138 5 лет назад
I read this book for the first time when I was 15. I saw myself in the book, sometimes in the form of Simon, sometimes as Piggy. I grew up with boys who would be Jack, Roger, the twins, etc. (I wasn't sure who I knew who would be Ralph; no one I grew up with struck me as someone I wanted as a Ralph, even if they might have been one) I knew that if all of us were in that same situation, the same general things would happen. Potentially up to and including the murder, on a large enough time scale. I'm not even sure how hyperbolic this book is - everything seems to happen so fast, but even that isn't particularly out of the question. We're not talking about adults here, who can be expected to have some degree of foresight. We're talking about boys - preteens - who would be terrified to do most of the things in the book... until someone else does it. Then when there's no one to tell them no, nearly everyone will do it. Why? Because most boys (and most children in general) derive their world-view and Morals from what Adults tell them. If an adult tells them it's Bad, then it's Bad. If an Adult tells them it's Good, it's Good. 10 year olds aren't old enough (generally) to figure most things out for themselves, so when no Adult is telling them something is Bad, they aren't able to decide for themselves why something is Bad. At best, you get boys going "N is like X, and X is something bad, so is N bad too?" and deciding not to do N because it might be bad. All it takes is one boy to overcome his fear at doing N and then doing N for others to join in. The more who join in, the more likely the hold outs will, until you can reasonably expect the majority to do N. This might take months. This might take minutes. There's no way to predict how long it will take for someone to do N, to NOT get in trouble for it (as there are no adults to punish the boys) and for others to join in. So even the timeline on the island is reasonable. All in all, it's a very reasonable - if bleak - look at how pre-teen boys would act in this kind of extreme situation.
@oliversmalley7771
@oliversmalley7771 3 года назад
Not gonna lie... I LOVED this book. It's grim, it's depressing, it's chaotic... but after a few months of literary analysis I really came to see the book very profoundly and it was much more engaging then. So basically, if you want to like this book, write a few five-page-essays on it!
@jacobmilburn1318
@jacobmilburn1318 3 года назад
I had very similar experience where I hated this book before I started to analyze it. Once I started turning my eye to the symbolism and theming I enjoyed it much more.
@theScytheofGod
@theScytheofGod 6 лет назад
Favorite part of the story is when a little boy named Percival, who knew his name and address at the beginning, can't remember them at the end.
@wildpiercy1141
@wildpiercy1141 5 лет назад
When I read this in highschool, I and a lot of the other kids thought the ending was really weak. But we also had never been told about why exactly Golding had written the book in the first place, just had a lesson on the Themes(tm), so instead of the captain rolling up like, "you kids having fun?" being a response to those books, it just felt like the tension of the scene got kneecapped. After I learned why it was written, I actually changed my mind and really enjoyed the ending.
@andreaitt2321
@andreaitt2321 3 года назад
My English teacher, before we started the book, made us get into groups of four and five. We were going to set up how we would live on a deserted island. We had to make rules and punishments and stuff. It was mainly girls in the class and I wanted to see how it would change from the book. One group basically said they would have a feelings circle every night and would have group voting, banish you if they felt it was right, but would try to talk things out first. Group two, said they had set boundaries of no stealing, and if you did you were punished. Not bad at all. Group three, no joke, said that it was survival of the strongest. Murder isn't allowed but if you see someone dying you don't help them or we throw you to the sharks. Group four was all boys, they said no rules, but if you break any rules we kill you. I don't really understand what they were doing. There were only two kids left, me and my partner. We only had two people, which means our rules were do your work, if you get sick I understand, we were socialists basically. Honestly, I am scared to think that me and the other kid might have survived the longest.
@kevinsullivan3448
@kevinsullivan3448 5 лет назад
Back when I was a young man (before the internet as we know it existed, but after my ETS from the Army) I took a communications class. One of the activities the instructor had us do was the 'trapped on the dark side of the moon with the following 15 items, make a list of most important to least important' gag. I chose the pistol at the number one thing, followed by air, water, food, and so on. When the rest of the class were arguing over less important stuff they all chose to deride my choice of the pistol as number one. I simply said that if they didn't like my choices I would just start shooting people until they agreed. The room became very quiet. I don't think a single member of that class doubted my statement. The instructor gave me an A for the activity because I was able to concisely communicate my intentions and reasoning.
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