My laptop’s CPU has always had a thermal throttling issue, today I attempt to resolve that. Music: 1) Joakim Karud - Zoned Out (Vlog No Copyright Music)
My suggestion was put a copper heatpipe connected on both GPU and CPU so it will have a shared heatpipe. This design was proven on newer gaming laptop and very efficient. You can also add another layer of heatpipes on those sides for better heat dissipation
I had that kind of setup in my older gaming laptop from 2009... I still miss it... :( I'm surprised to see my newer one doesn't have that, it's much crappier this new one
You could have also used thermal adhesive instead of the pads. This would have reduced the height of the heatsinks slightly, improved thermal conductivity, and it would be more permanent, so less chance of them falling off and shorting out and frying your laptop.
i'm also planning to do something similar. few changes: * i'll be using a 3mm thick, copper (instead of aluminum) m.2 heatsink and gluing that on top of the stock copper heatpipe using a pretty high performance thermal adhesive (Arctic Alumina). the thermal material that comes with these heatsinks have fairly low thermal conductivity (>3 W/mk) whereas the arctic has around 9. * then i'll be cutting out a hole over the area directly above the heatpipe to increase airflow and cover that with a mesh (the default cutouts are pretty restrictive imo). * the laptop will be sitting on turbine style 12v fan (a modded SilverStone NB05) that will blow air straight into the mesh. * will use Kryonaut paste for cpu/gpu * throttlestop to undevolt if this works in reducing the temps during load by 10C+ then I'll get a modded bios to play around with the power limits and push my i5 8250U almost to i7 7700HQ level...
Im doing something similar with a core i7 8550u to make it comparable to an 7700hq, it seems to work but my laptop is power throttling for some reason, ill tell you the results when i finish, but i already undervolted the cpu and gpu (MX150) and repasted these both same, the processor stills power throttles so i think VRM modules arent delivering enough Wattage (they are made to deliver 15w and im asking them to deliver 40-46w) so ill cool them with some thermal pads and finally im getting a new charger incase the input isnt enough (i have a 65w charger and i ordered a 90w one) also im getting a new ssd to boost the slowass 5400rpm hdd
@@fitotito9677 okay so I did the mod (image: photos.app.goo.gl/CVGp6bnaGEkU8VGaA) with a minor change - instead of using m.2 copper heatsink, I recycled the heatpipes from my old laptop (I had my doubts regarding the purity of copper from AliExpress). Rest of the process went as planned. Sadly, there's practically no change in my Cinebench R15 scores (590-605) but, when I run the benchmark and check the temps in Throttlestop it now (briefly) goes upto 90C whereas previously it never went above 75C (throttling down to 15W/2.6GHz). Also, subsequent Cinebench runs produces similar scores whereas earlier it'd slowly keep reducing. BIOS modding is now the only option for getting significant improvements but I'm beginning to think all of this is not worth the effort and as you said, even after doing all the tweaks, we could be hard limited by poor VRMs.
3:35 the package temp is the overall temperature of the cpu chip in most cases, that could be from poorly applied thermal paste, sadly a very common manufacturing mistake....
you could run CPU stress tests that score your CPU's performance at those different configurations. doing so would be able to tell you more definitively whether or not it is improving performance. considering the fact that most CPU's will not throttle until the package hits higher temps like 95 and 100 degrees, going off the max temperature in both tests doesn't really show any improvement. looking at the max and min temps of the CPU when you had turbo boost off does show an improvement in cooling so my guess is that in a program like cinebench the score would probably jump a couple 100 points.
@@mariot.5178 you can manually disable the gpu in device manager to get better temps and battery life when you're not using it for gaming although it can get tedious after a couple of times doing it
I have a 2020 rog zephyrus and it idles at 48-54 and gets to 80-85 while gaming, I have a cooling pad and ordered a vacuum fan what’s should I do to lower cpu temp? My gpu doesn’t ever get higher then 65
@@swagondabeat5205 Zephyrus might have blocked off vents inside, take off the bottom cover and unblock it for 10c drop. Also good thermalpaste like gelid gc extreme.
You may short and burn everything in your mobo, with a free conductive material inside Could be effective but not safe. Recomended only for ...brave and risky laptop owners.
rest your laptop on one of those fan laptop holders, with those heat sinks actually getting air, it will do something impressive. The reason you don't see anything on the enabled boost, is because the heatsinks are just saturated, and can't release the heat, but at the disabled boost, they have a little time to release the heat since it's not as extreme. A fan under the laptop would have made a huge improvement with this mod.
@@Leavemealone1670 they help if the way you're doing it improves air flow. Laptops in general have bottom intakes, and if they are on a blanket or a flat surface they have to fight small tunnels for the air. But if you use a book over a blanket or anything on a table to give it a larger area to pull air from, it can greatly reduce heat.
Please install another stick of ram u will get a boost in performance. Also put liquid metal or trpaste it with kryonaut or kpx kingpin. Also sometimes thermal pads get in the way of having good contact with the die so use K5pro thermal putty in between heatsink and vram and where the thermal pads were . Trust me it will work great also don't even forget to undervolt
yep that is better solution than this, i use similar spec laptop, with -75 mV undervolt, kryonaut thermal paste, and actually overclocked gtx 1050 250+ memory and core :))), and the laptop run well but some games better turning off or even undervolt the gpu too, so the temp barely got into 75+ at high load extended use, note the laptop that i use is gl62m 7rdx and live in indonesia so the room temp was mid-high, usually hit 25-27 celcius.
@@Tome4kkkk Uhhh. No, It's much more complicated than that, the BIOS should support it. With setting the Processor Speed to 80% Windows OS has control. But undervolting a CPU is done in BIOS.
@@AravindVennu Thanks. No such settings are available in Lenovo Ideapads so I went with windows throttling to 80% and "battery slider" middle position. Works wonders, including boosting performance in most games.
Also I had another idea of cooling the laptops better other than using the hot air inside to computer to cool the fins. Use a Vituri style air duct to pull cool outside air in from before the fins but after the fan.
To anybody having huge issues but doesn't have access to any physical parts RN - type "power" in search and click "edit power plan" then "change advanced power settings" scroll down to processor and expand, scroll down to "maximum processor state" and change it to 99 percent from 100 percent for battery and plugged in. this will make a laptop that boosts to 4.7ghz only boost to around 4.63 and use less wattage and that will keep your laptop below 87-89c until you can produce a solution that keeps it cool at full speed. Just to clarify, going from 4.7ghz to 4.63 isn't something you can perceive as a human, it still seems fast and snappy but a lot cooler. You may be able to tell in games where you might have 68fps instead of 70 but an acceptable price to pay to not be at 100c and slowly destroying your device.
@@pedro.alcatra then replace the thermal paste for thermal grizzly kryonaut or something, that should help. Of the hundreds of gaming laptops I've seen throughout the years I've only seen a couple where undervolting didn't help, and heck, even GPU undervolting wasn't done there, and GPU makes the CPU hotter due to shared heatpipes. I have a Dell G3 which is an oven out of the box which starts thottling to 15 watts on the CPU after like 20 minutes of high end gaming. Undervolted it and the CPU never throttled, holds it's max advertized clockspeeds and never exceeds 85 degrees, while the GPU is in it's low 70-s. Replaced thermal paste to Thermal Grizzly and temps dropped by 4-5 degrees compared to stock. what laptop and what hardware do you have?
put these heatsinks on VRM controller cpu and gpu and you get a better results. i make this on my old laptop with i5 2450m and drop from 98c to 71 just 1 heatsink
Should have run a benchmark with turbo on before ad after. Turbo boost will boost as high as temperatures allow. So more heatsinks won't make it cooler with turbo on, but it will make it faster.
The idea was sound and would have worked far better on a laptop that doesn't have such poor ventilation. There is very little airflow over those components so the heat absorbed by the sinks would literally just raise the ambient temperature around the components as it has nowhere to go.
I did a rather drastic mod on my laptop.... I soldered an unsealed heatpipe along the heatpipe of my laptop and water cooled it while still being mobile. I just use/retrofit a radiator+pump combo *I forgot what brand* and now my laptop idles around 25-28c and under load it would stay at 55-60c for 30 minutes and increased to 70c at 40 minutes when it equalized over time.... BUT!!! the cpu and gpu never throttled.
Hey frazer, great thanks for this video. Actually there was negligible difference but I was going to try this, watching this video saved me tons of time. Thank you so much. I would try something other, (can u suggest?) I am thinking of adding a metal type heat pipe as an addition. WDYT?
Omit the added heatsinks on the output cooling fins. They'll only pull more heat back into the case. You'll also need to run benchmarks for a long time to account for the added thermal capacity of additional physical material.
correct me if im wrong, but i dont see where the fans pull air from, there are no holes on the back plate (top left and right), am i missing something here ? xdd
Interesting idea, will try something similar on my Lenovo v145-15ast. This bugger can't even play youtube without throttling. It has a9 9425 with a base clock of 3.1, it turbo boosts couple of times to 3.7, heats up to 80-82 degrees and downclocks itself to 2.8, where he remains most of the time. Can't believe that in 2019 AMD sells their terrible Bulldozes (Excavator) 28nm architecture processors and Lenovo was dumb enough to put it in a laptop and provide no proper cooling. I took it apart the other day to change thermal paste in hopes that it will help cooling, but it didn't. I has a tiny copper pipe and a radiator that has fins so thin they almost look as if made of tinfoil...
I bought a lenovo 1 year ago and I'm having so many problems... avoid lenovo laptops as much as you can... the thing is, I didn't have much choice, it was an emergency purchase for work... I'm so gutted for having given my money for this garbage
instead of moving heat from cpu to fans with copper pipes -> than out. you are dissipating the heat inside of laptop case which is narrow already. i paused at @00:09:10 . i think this wil not work as expected. cause it radiates the heat inside the case more with mini heatsinks . x) if u can extend that copper pipes outside of the case throught the fan( discard the fan ?? counter prod. ). put heatsink there. even connect it to iceboxes. ----- 2) another idea is, bigger laptop case would might help with heat. but they make it tinier each day.
Dam bro that stock heatsink is major tiny for a laptop that can boost to 3.8ghz! Thats way undercooled! Good call adding SOME kind of mod to it that cooling unit is pitiful 😆
hope to see someone can modify the heatsink can be attach to external gaint heatsink with 120mm fan . but the thickness should be not more than 80mm , so just only raise the monitor back part higher 80mm for enable more air flow .
Anyone having performance issues when unplugging your laptop, turn on max performance in battery settings in control panel, and then in nvidia control panel in global settings you will find a max performance setting on battery as well. This will severely reduce your laptop's battery life and might not even be worth it, just game while plugged in.
@@stevenleyson728 lmao, do you even know what you are talking about bro?! You can game on battery just as well as plugged in. You just have to make sure the power saver settings don't automatically nerf your performance. Please don't try to come at someone in this manner unless you know what your talking about.
@@G11Chan well I actually found I can game at full performance on battery but it definitely reduces how long I can play some games. Your laptop switches to optimize battery when on battery, but you can change that in setting to balance or optimize performance in control settings.
my AMD lenovo laptop is so weird, regardless of what power settings I'm using, or being idle or actually using it, the battery will always last the same 3:30 hours no matter what, power draw is constant at -11.000 mAH... no idea what is going on
I am more interested in your cool laptop stand there at 1:56 .. did you made it yourself? I wanna do something similar.. it looks neat and probably helping me getting fresh air underneath my own laptop 😀
I had a thought. What if you put a m.2 heat sink along the heat pipe? Wouldn't that be kinda better? Altho it would have to be slim enough to fit with the bottom, and if the heat pipe is long enough you could have more. And what about a cooling pad? I mean they dont do miracles in term's of helping you'r laptop not overheat but with the m.2 heat sink along the heat pipe, you could technically have a another "active cooling system" assuming the heatsink is where there are breathing holes for the cooling
5:35 oh... so 2.70 GHz means that Turbo Boost is already disabled? I have these same Max clocks on my AMD here... I thought something was wrong because the max clock it has is 2.10 GHz... so how is it able to go up to 2.70 ?
It's risky, so you could have tried to change paste with a liquid metal one. Use an adhesive thermal conductor for those little heatsinks, it may give you perfection
I've been looking for ways to completely and permanently disable Turbo Boost on Windows for AMD processor, anyone knows how? I can only disable it completely on Linux so far, but Linux makes my fan spin on max and it will cause damage to it over time :(
@@FrazerForbes1 I've got pretty much the same laptop, and undervolting in throttle stop plus speed step does help by 4-5 degree. I really don't get it though, why they chose such a stupid design for the cooling with extremely long single heat pipes. Adding one more heatpipe for the cpu and one for the GPU would've made this a beast temperature wise, for like 5$ more.
Sir i think you must do repaste, because turbo max 98C is not normal. My laptop use I5 10300H and have 4.5Ghz clock speed and reach only 75C to 80C in max speed. My recommend is Grizzly Krayonaut because it has highest max working temp in market -250C to 350C. Its mean it good for long term use and will not dry quickly. My next recomend is use thermal glue. Its more efficient in close gap and more thin dan thermal tape, because distance between heatsink and heat source is very important
i think such heatsink stuff is useless. Where will the heat dissipated by heat sink go? at least when you start the laptop the temps will be quite low. but once it warms up where will the heat dissipate? that is the problem... it would be much better to improve the fan cooling system, rather than increasing heatpipes or heatsink THE REAL BOTTLNECK is probably in "removing" heat through fans. Also, maybe changing the plastic cover to aluminum should be a better thing. a big aluminum "heatsink" can make it much cooler
do u know "ASUS X550IU"? im very desperate want to reduce heat even its only 2c this laptop locked at 74c with shity cooling. im already use vacum and good cooling pad for this laptop, and change thermal paste upto 4times alrdy and down the procecor Voltage to 90% but its still get 74c easly when i play games only for 5-10minutes the negative effec i get is my Graphic card clock down from 1180mhz to around 700mhz. (i lost 10-15fps in BDO) if im not down voltage and working with 100% procesor the clock is only 300-400mhz (and get 18 fps in BDO, normal 40-45)
