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The Last of Us Part II (2020 Action-Adventure Video Game) developed by Naughty Dog and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment as reviewed by Charlie and Jackson.
The Moist Meter is an experimental measurement system that you can use to safely gauge just how moist a video game or movie is going to be before playing it or viewing it. Avoid the dry products and only use the wettest.
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Комментарии : 22 тыс.   
@barer7717
@barer7717 4 года назад
Last Of Us 3 Plot leaked Abby gets an infection from being stabbed so many times in dirty water. Abby dies. Rest of the game is just flashbacks on how the water came to be dirty.
@ky9826
@ky9826 4 года назад
Sounds better than 2 tbh
@ElementVoidX
@ElementVoidX 4 года назад
still a better story than TLOU 2 hahaha
@rxeadn
@rxeadn 4 года назад
I'd be down for a game that leads into the events of TLOU1. They could go in detail into Joel's time as a smuggler with Tommy, Tommy joining the fireflies, Joel meeting Tess etc.
@zukio6088
@zukio6088 4 года назад
Then the backstory about the water being dirty is that Homer threw his pet pig's poop into it lol
@notsotone846
@notsotone846 4 года назад
@@zukio6088 joel actually drank that water which is what made him dumb enough to tell abbys group his name and location. it all makes sense now
@Segadrome
@Segadrome 4 года назад
Imagine Kratos finally finding Zeus, and NOT killing him.
@koppunch
@koppunch 4 года назад
And we also have the fact that GOW CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A LESSON ABOUT HOW REVENGE IS BAD.
@evanvincent9356
@evanvincent9356 4 года назад
Sir.Anthony So true 😂
@marksayosmejia7251
@marksayosmejia7251 4 года назад
Gow ps4 kratos: the cycle ends here Then i started gow trilogy Gow 2 ps2 Zeus: the cycle ends here.
@koppunch
@koppunch 4 года назад
@@marksayosmejia7251 GOW is the perfect example on how revenge can cause a chain of events that you cant escape.
@shotguncleric
@shotguncleric 4 года назад
*SIR NOW YOU HAVE GONE TOO FAR WITH THIS HERESY*
@rizzen0248
@rizzen0248 2 года назад
I like how Abby never even tells Ellie that she killed Joel because he killed her father... Like wtf
@rileysevern1968
@rileysevern1968 2 года назад
Why would she?😂
@TheDisturbingPanda
@TheDisturbingPanda 2 года назад
Things like this in games and movies annoy me. Especially in horror movies, there are often moments where people just don't give information that can potentially change the villain's perspective
@rizzen0248
@rizzen0248 2 года назад
@@rileysevern1968 Dumb question.
@Jmcelwain17
@Jmcelwain17 2 года назад
@@rileysevern1968 EXTREMELY dumb question.
@HerrDurkslag
@HerrDurkslag 2 года назад
I mean would it have changed anything? I knew that and it didn't make me want to kill Abby any less, doubt Ellie would've just squashed the beef after realizing he "had it coming" lmao
@grandmagertrude7676
@grandmagertrude7676 Год назад
I don’t think I’ve seen Charlie tear into a game this much in a while
@assdonkey6540
@assdonkey6540 Год назад
Cuase he’s gay
@fibonacci-dilemma3675
@fibonacci-dilemma3675 Год назад
@@assdonkey6540 says ass donkey
@toastytoast9800
@toastytoast9800 Год назад
@@assdonkey6540 that dildo collection makes sense now
@ethandonaldson4306
@ethandonaldson4306 Год назад
@@assdonkey6540 really got him there 💀
@KUBADUC3
@KUBADUC3 Год назад
@@assdonkey6540oml💀
@TheRealCarlBrutananadilewski
@TheRealCarlBrutananadilewski 4 года назад
Imagine John Wick where he goes through the entire movie killing mobsters but at the end he spares the guy who killed his dog.
@deathstrike9959
@deathstrike9959 4 года назад
Damn that’s a actually a good comparison that would have ruined the movie entirely
@TwinXlyric
@TwinXlyric 4 года назад
Exactly like this game lmao. Abbie took everything and In the end she gets away with revenge and Ellie gets fucked over and loses everything. This game sucks ass
@matthewpunk2012
@matthewpunk2012 4 года назад
Leftist John Wick.
@soapandbutter
@soapandbutter 4 года назад
or if Thanos didn't snap at the end of infinity war.
@LaMarkBall
@LaMarkBall 4 года назад
and john wick isn't exactly a hero either. it's implied in the movies that before the events of the first movie that john was a killing monster. and he still is.
@PapaToks
@PapaToks 4 года назад
It's sad that Arthur's horse had a better death.
@WrdToMymfTimbs
@WrdToMymfTimbs 4 года назад
Bro I cried when my horse died, me and le4che went way back lol
@princetchalla2441
@princetchalla2441 4 года назад
RIP my horse named “Pinez” spelled in 1337, stayed with him the whole game
@_trashmandan_2903
@_trashmandan_2903 4 года назад
😂
@imjustgooder8898
@imjustgooder8898 4 года назад
R.I.P. horse
@SynsaySama
@SynsaySama 4 года назад
I named my boy Sebastian. Best horse in the world. 😭
@rishabhchauhan9477
@rishabhchauhan9477 2 года назад
"Its ok Sub-Zero, I forgive you. -Scorpion 2009
@israelwilson4022
@israelwilson4022 4 месяца назад
“I’m sorry scorpion, It was quan chi not me” sub zero (Bi Han)
@dr.deadpool5959
@dr.deadpool5959 2 года назад
The flashbacks between Ellie and Joel were more emotional than the present storyline especially when Ellie finds out the truth
@JohnSmith-wh2ob
@JohnSmith-wh2ob 7 месяцев назад
Could’ve expanded on how their relationship changed and adjusted seeing them her struggle with forgiveness seeing how much joel loves Ellie like WHY DID WE NOT FOCUS ON JOEL AND ELLIE AGAIN then last of us 3 concludes the story after joel dies at the end of 2 or something
@DarthMagister
@DarthMagister 4 года назад
Imagine not killing the icon of sin because revenge is bad
@rageinducer2455
@rageinducer2455 4 года назад
The longer Abby stays in seattle, the swoler she'll become.
@kylelongjohn837
@kylelongjohn837 4 года назад
😯
@pugasaurusrex8253
@pugasaurusrex8253 4 года назад
“You cannot smash a whole onto the skull of Joel” Objective: Smash a whole into the skull of Joel
@source.mydelusions
@source.mydelusions 4 года назад
somewhere in nevada
@ficoh634
@ficoh634 4 года назад
@@rageinducer2455 i swear her arms grow bigger every second i stare at them
@lich109
@lich109 4 года назад
The "revenge is bad" angle doesn't even work with this game because the person who gets revenge gets to walk away with a loved one, whereas the person who gives up on it loses everything.
@alierk542
@alierk542 4 года назад
THANK YOU.
@OnionMilker
@OnionMilker 4 года назад
Yup so they just goofed on themselves
@sopaipillasss
@sopaipillasss 4 года назад
yea, people hate the ending because Ellie wanted revenge and could have gotten it, but Abby took SOOOO MUCH of Ellie. Abby went out of her way to go and try and kill Ellie, Dina, Jesse and Tommy, almost kills Dina, kills Jesse, then has the fucking nerve to say "Dont let me ever see you again" bro wtf???????
@NeroYui
@NeroYui 4 года назад
Holy snap that's true, i didn't even make that connection, the entire message of the game is thrown in the garbage at the end because of that, jesus christ what a horrible narrative
@azura6804
@azura6804 4 года назад
man revenge worked like charm for abby, she murdered joe and ellie even saves her after thats just stupid
@skeleton599
@skeleton599 Год назад
You’d at least think Abby would have shown a little mercy after Joel saved her life, but no she ain’t even got that 💀
@beardalaxy
@beardalaxy Год назад
not to mention she just kills the first dude she comes across named Joel even after he risked his life for her. what a shitty fucking character.
@johnnysunshine6550
@johnnysunshine6550 Год назад
He killed her father she wouldn't even have been in that town needing to be saved if he hadn't killed her father
@dudeimgeorge
@dudeimgeorge Год назад
Jesus that concept could've been a remarkable struggle in the story. To have her battle her hatred... ultimately killing him but more complexity
@lumi3333
@lumi3333 Год назад
@@johnnysunshine6550 her father was going to kill Ellie. Well deserved
@johnnysunshine6550
@johnnysunshine6550 Год назад
@@lumi3333 and by killing ellie he would have saved thousands of boys and girls
@someguyinazoo
@someguyinazoo Год назад
Basically the main theme of the game "Revenge is bad,except the villain can have it"
@crazyinsane500
@crazyinsane500 Год назад
Kinda an uncomfortable theme given the writer/director pulled some Weinstein shit at the company. Gee, I fucking wonder *why* he'd be insistent on the villain getting away with their horrible actions and the people wanting them to pay for their crimes are treated as the bad guy.
@maccheese4557
@maccheese4557 Год назад
Abby literally lost everything the wlfs, her dad her friends she literally only had lev but Ellie has dina, JJ, Tommy and Jackson ville u can see when Ellie leaves she doesn't have on the bracelet dina gave her but when she gets back to the farm house she does when it zoomed In on her hand there both in the wrong the u can't say Abby just gets away with her revenge even though she obviously didn't I feel like u didn't play the game
@crazyinsane500
@crazyinsane500 Год назад
@@maccheese4557 That's not only not a punishment, given they died as a result of trying to kill Ellie, that's something that happened to *other people.* The narrative of "she lost her friends" only makes sense if one considers people property that's an extension of one's self, and not independent beings. Which, gee, someone who's done some Weinstein shit at Naughty Dog might *genuinely* think.
@Koraidon576
@Koraidon576 Год назад
@@maccheese4557 A problem with the game was that Abby COULD have gotten away with it but chose not to for the sake of plot. Also, Abby lost everything because she saved her enemy, she does this twice. Difference between her and Ellie was when Ellie is stripped of what she cares for and does what Abby does, the game demonizes that, while praises Abby for taking the same path.
@pug6322
@pug6322 Год назад
@@maccheese4557 you flip abby's dad in joel's position, where abby was immune and they were gonna kill her for a cure, you really think abby's dad wouldn't have done the same?? Meanwhile abby losing the wlfs was her decision cause she chose to help lev and yara knowing that wlfs and scars are enemies. Her friends dying was the consenquence of her seeking revenge and dragging them into it. The line where she said "We let you live and you wasted it" was one her dumbest moments cuz of the fact that she expected ellie to not seek revenge as well. I mean if she can seek it what makes her think that ellie won't? most of what happens to her in this game are her own doing.
@lawdaddy7455
@lawdaddy7455 4 года назад
I don’t know... Having zombies in a golf game is a little too ambitious for me
@bilon5998
@bilon5998 4 года назад
F
@BGTech1
@BGTech1 4 года назад
Yes
@xXgodofwarXx
@xXgodofwarXx 4 года назад
Why is everyone calling it a golf game
@Symora
@Symora 4 года назад
@@xXgodofwarXx golf
@internetexplorer8588
@internetexplorer8588 4 года назад
Not playing the kino mini golf game in Dead Rising 4
@criticalf0ll0w16
@criticalf0ll0w16 4 года назад
Ellie: kills basically everyone is about to kill main antagonist Ellie: woah I was about to lose my cool I'm sorry
@f10pped36
@f10pped36 4 года назад
Kills a pregnant woman on top of that
@andresdeleon5994
@andresdeleon5994 4 года назад
Fl0pped _ can kill a pregnant woman but not the person that she killed because of
@nopium9627
@nopium9627 4 года назад
She kills a pregnant woman?????
@JV-ie4rh
@JV-ie4rh 4 года назад
Ballbo Bagskins yea
@kameronjones7139
@kameronjones7139 4 года назад
@@f10pped36 2 for the price of one
@snap__shot
@snap__shot Год назад
My favorite part was when abby said "it's abby time" and dropkicked Ellie out the window. Truly the game ever.
@rishit1120
@rishit1120 Год назад
my favourite part was when joel says "so many people got turned into zombies, now there are only the last of us"
@rockycuro7737
@rockycuro7737 Год назад
Not funny
@realwhelan
@realwhelan Год назад
@@rishit1120 and proceded to last all over the place
@thehabit635
@thehabit635 Год назад
@@rockycuro7737 yes funny
@rockycuro7737
@rockycuro7737 Год назад
@@thehabit635 this joke is overdone
@MrMejia187
@MrMejia187 Год назад
I think the main issue is that Abby was absolutely shoehorned. I would've been okay with a few playable segments but they hammered you over the head with her. Even gave her the most exciting and interesting sequences of the game to Abby instead of ELLIE ! After 7 years, Ellie felt sidelined..
@RobertJohnson-nz3xm
@RobertJohnson-nz3xm Год назад
Not only that. They made it so that you wouldn't like playing as her. By day 3 I was kind of liking her then you are forced to fight Ellie. By the time I was in Santa Barbara with Abby and Lev I was just done with playing as her.
@jhanks3
@jhanks3 Год назад
@@RobertJohnson-nz3xm you only have to play as Abby for like 10 minutes in Santa Barbara
@maboilaurence8227
@maboilaurence8227 10 месяцев назад
This. This is my problem with the game. They really want to subvert your expectations and make Abby grow on you, but the entire time I felt like it was so obvious they didn't even try to hide it, i was just so bored with her segments.
@Steel_
@Steel_ 4 года назад
This isn't a sequel. *this is a million-dollar fanfiction*
@Mmw956
@Mmw956 4 года назад
over sexualized weird sjw fan fiction
@sneedandfeed
@sneedandfeed 4 года назад
Preach my man
@arenkai
@arenkai 4 года назад
Oddly, that's how I called the Star Wars Sequels and GoT Seasons 6-8
@omiorahman6283
@omiorahman6283 4 года назад
how dare youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@Steel_
@Steel_ 4 года назад
@@VincentDeAda ayyy
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 года назад
Basically if the Punisher forgave the people who killed his family. "The Forgiver"
@Oneiros433
@Oneiros433 4 года назад
true
@sergueileonardoafonin7950
@sergueileonardoafonin7950 4 года назад
Only after he killed all their friends and family mind you. "The Guywhocan'tmakeuphisgodamnmind"
@readlater8962
@readlater8962 4 года назад
- Directed by Neil Druckmann
@raychangalarza179
@raychangalarza179 4 года назад
Yeah
@rentalsnowman8009
@rentalsnowman8009 4 года назад
How are your comments everywhere? And how are they 100% of the time super high rated. Wtf are you.
@Blaster835
@Blaster835 Год назад
Imagine after Arthur's death you continue as Micah
@Leadoff2006
@Leadoff2006 Год назад
That actually would be pretty cool
@Blaster835
@Blaster835 Год назад
@@Leadoff2006 to each their own
@pinkkfloydd
@pinkkfloydd Год назад
@@Leadoff2006 Uh, no.
@Leadoff2006
@Leadoff2006 Год назад
@@pinkkfloydd you don’t think it would be kinda cool or like crazy if you play as Micah for a little while, instead of being John in the epilogue you are Micah and you get killed
@kar12894
@kar12894 Год назад
Last of us rabid fans would eat it up because Micah is neither gay, a woman nor a gay woman.
@scottnukend
@scottnukend 2 года назад
70% of Naughty Dog QUIT the company after Uncharted 4 released in 2017. Including TLOU's creator, Bruce Straley. We should have expected this garbage. Hitchhiker Druckmann just tried to pull a Konami and pretend like he was the one that created everything, he ignored Amy Hennig and Bruce Straley entirely. Your review is the best on the internet Charlie.
@KUTOU-qi7jo
@KUTOU-qi7jo 2 года назад
Damn 70%😲
@jozefnowak6797
@jozefnowak6797 2 года назад
One of the most underrated comment. I agree 100%. People tend to forget that Bruce Straley was also one of the Game Director of the first game...
@captainalex157
@captainalex157 2 года назад
Yeah Naughty Dog is dead. Sad, beacause Uncharted was my favorite game series. They had it all and they threw it away.
@OnMyWayToAsakura
@OnMyWayToAsakura 2 года назад
Good comment.
@sebastienlezin9057
@sebastienlezin9057 2 года назад
Amy Hennig literally had nothing to do with The Last Of Us. Also that 70% figure is complete nonsense
@ainsleybbc
@ainsleybbc 4 года назад
Imagine god of war but kratos spares zeus and then goes home to play his guitar
@JayfroC
@JayfroC 4 года назад
To be fair, Kratos would probably have a pretty badass guitar
@Aureliryus
@Aureliryus 4 года назад
@@JayfroC Probably a flying V
@eleternauta2640
@eleternauta2640 4 года назад
Holy shit someone plz draw Kratos playing a guitar!
@WeGotTheMacInTheStu
@WeGotTheMacInTheStu 4 года назад
But he can’t play his guitar because Zeus zapped off one of his hands💀
@gavinbrown1159
@gavinbrown1159 4 года назад
Hold on griffin gaming will copywrite you
@FPSvolter
@FPSvolter 4 года назад
Game: she was pregnant, you must feel even worse Me: Oh shit double kill
@mynameisbarryallenandimthe5685
@mynameisbarryallenandimthe5685 4 года назад
Triple if you count Owen
@ninjabaiano6092
@ninjabaiano6092 4 года назад
*Colateral*
@windblade988
@windblade988 4 года назад
3 for 2 deal on that sale
@Orange-wf8wh
@Orange-wf8wh 4 года назад
Transvaaler 52 Kilimanjaro
@ashkanhooshmand6518
@ashkanhooshmand6518 4 года назад
😂
@panzerkampf92
@panzerkampf92 2 года назад
If Ellie never went after Abby the second time, it would have been a way better ending
@igotbigbrain7089
@igotbigbrain7089 2 года назад
I AGREE WITH THIS SO MUCH, you don’t understand. I hated the fact that the game made me go through all that, 27 hours( i’ve looked) killed all of abby’s friends, got beaten by abby, went home, started a family, etc. And then they just try to extend the plot further by making me go through all this other stuff in a whole new area just to not kill abby. i would have been more than satisfied with staying home with Dina and having that be the ending, they unnecessarily extended the game and that was just a huge downside, honestly didn’t even feel like playing it anymore
@JH-dr4xo
@JH-dr4xo Год назад
If anything, when Joel’s brother came to the farmhouse with Abbie’s location, just have Ellie agree to go then. Instead she waits like two days after he leaves and then decides to do it
@Zapdos97
@Zapdos97 11 месяцев назад
Considering Ellie's mental state was getting worse I don't think so. At least both are alive and recovering
@m0ristiko
@m0ristiko 3 месяца назад
true
@asmasan8746
@asmasan8746 Месяц назад
The game is not about revenge being bad, but about perspective, breaking the cycle of hate, and dealing with grief
@crazyinsane500
@crazyinsane500 Месяц назад
Not once does Abby make any attempt to break any cycle of hate. She just thinks she's entitled to harm others and get away with it. In fact, were it not for Ellie and *only* Ellie, she'd have gotten away with everything scot free, and even then she had droves of sycophants dying to keep her from the consequences of her own actions. No, it really is *just* revenge bad because when it was written Neil Druckmann was upset his best friend got fired for grabbing people by the chest and groin, seeing his friend's firing as "revenge" rather than justified punishment.
@winhaa
@winhaa Месяц назад
​@@crazyinsane500if Abby never broke the cycle of violence then what do you call her leaving Ellie, Dina alive at the theater?
@crazyinsane500
@crazyinsane500 Месяц назад
@@winhaa That was her doing what Lev told her. She herself wanted to kill both. Similarly to how in the start she only doesn't kill Ellie and Tommy because Owen tells her not to. This ties back into Neil Druckmann as a writer, since he has a problem with writing women without them being subservient to men.
@winhaa
@winhaa Месяц назад
@@crazyinsane500 Do you think Ellie is subservient to Joel?
@guts4300
@guts4300 4 года назад
"Did they not understand what made the first game good" - PewDiePie
@MagnumBarrage
@MagnumBarrage 4 года назад
I avoided those because I thought the game was going to be a hard watch. Video and time stamp?
@christopherwager312
@christopherwager312 4 года назад
@@MagnumBarrage probably during a stream tbh
@ThePC007
@ThePC007 4 года назад
It happens so often that video game devs (or rather, upper management) just don't understand what made the first game great when they make the second one, but this just takes the entire thing to another level.
@kevindavidson8281
@kevindavidson8281 4 года назад
"does PewDiePie not understand he isn't good" -most of RU-vid
@brandon_Larsen
@brandon_Larsen 4 года назад
@@kevindavidson8281👈🏽 The minority of RU-vid.
@ikhalid1418
@ikhalid1418 4 года назад
revenge is bad. but killing hundreds on your way to get your revenge is absolutely okey, as long as you don't get your revenge.
@Blade6061
@Blade6061 4 года назад
Exactly, you kill a hundreds of people that have nothing to do with your revenge, but when you find the one who caused it, you should let them go. Such a shit idea.
@dirtclodboi
@dirtclodboi 4 года назад
Hahaha
@garlicmayonnaise8615
@garlicmayonnaise8615 4 года назад
Lmao the people screaming "cHaRaCtEr dEvElOpMeNt" are overlooking whether said character development is done correctly.
@ExperimentalHero
@ExperimentalHero 4 года назад
Very poor and lazy writing
@HollowContact
@HollowContact 4 года назад
The game makes you question killing those npcs, even if you have little choice. It's why they start calling each other by name, and let you play ball with the dogs you previously slaughtered
@evanmildrum897
@evanmildrum897 2 года назад
The best part about tlou2 I thought was the flashback to Ellie and Joel at the museum. That whole part was great.
@AAA-hd5dv
@AAA-hd5dv 2 года назад
Meh I mean without context it wouldn’t mean much and it feels like that’s the demographic that liked this game the ones who didn’t play the first one and feminists
@indieoregano
@indieoregano 2 года назад
@@AAA-hd5dv bro what
@AAA-hd5dv
@AAA-hd5dv 2 года назад
@@indieoregano the new game is shit
@carsoncampbell6792
@carsoncampbell6792 2 года назад
@@AAA-hd5dv did you play it?
@AAA-hd5dv
@AAA-hd5dv 2 года назад
@@carsoncampbell6792 no and it doesn’t matter
@RaycastAF
@RaycastAF 8 месяцев назад
Finally someone says the truth. The graphics, combat and set pieces were amazing. Everything else falls flat completely.
@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012
@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 4 года назад
imagine Squidward didn't punch that guy with a pizza at the end of Pizza Delivery after he make spongebob cry
@FartCity-WorldDomination
@FartCity-WorldDomination 4 года назад
Even more sad than TLOU2s story line. How
@weepop8291
@weepop8291 4 года назад
That episode where Mr. Krabs accuses squidward of stealing his dime and squidward going homeless because of it, living in a cardboard box made me sad. TLOU2 however, I felt nothing
@calebe5596
@calebe5596 4 года назад
Spitting facts bruh
@ammagon4519
@ammagon4519 4 года назад
I would be really pissed lmao, I mean they're already taking away Squidwards "humanity" in the new seasons.
@melvinmerkelhopper5752
@melvinmerkelhopper5752 4 года назад
Don't you be playin with my emotions like that!
@kingpinpasta2934
@kingpinpasta2934 4 года назад
Imagine the Bride in Kill Bill after she’s kills all of the Deadly Vipers she gets to Bill the architect of her family’s deaths and she like “you know what Bill? Revenge is bad so I’ll leave you alone.”
@dinovangowan658
@dinovangowan658 4 года назад
@Invader Jet Instead of blowing his heart with awesome martial arts she could blow his mind with bad writing.
@TheSwayzeTrain
@TheSwayzeTrain 4 года назад
@@dinovangowan658 The bride puts down her Hattori Hanzo sword and picks up a pen filled with shitty ink.
@noegallegos6722
@noegallegos6722 4 года назад
SHE KILLS BILL? SPOILERS
@mylesthompson4485
@mylesthompson4485 4 года назад
@xXx_EpicGamer_xXx it's a joke you gourd
@RetroBacon1
@RetroBacon1 4 года назад
The issue isnt that she didnt kill her after the entire journey. In fact thats the best way to go about it, but hthe ending does not feel earned at all.
@Ic3h0rnEt14
@Ic3h0rnEt14 Год назад
I think this game was too ambitious for its own good. The separate narratives converging and the shifting of perspectives were both interesting ideas but their execution was lacking. It would have been better if the story was told chronologically, alternating between Ellie and Abby, instead of reaching the climax then rewinding three days. I get that we were supposed to get the gratification from revenge and then realize that the cost was greater than the fulfilment, but I never felt bad for killing Abby's friends because I didn't get to know them first. I also found it impossible to connect with Abby's friends during her section because I already knew they were dead. The only death that impacted me at all was Manny's, and that's no coincidence because we didn't see him die hours ahead of time. Also, I know they were trying to draws parallels between Joel/Ellie and Abby/Lev but I just didn't buy it. Joel and Ellie bonded over an entire year during a trip across the U.S. and it took them a while to even be open to caring for each other. Abby hangs out with Lev for less than 3 days, abandons the WLF that helped her survive for years, and is saying stuff like, "You're my people!" That just wasn't believable and didn't really work in my opinion. This franchise is a prime example of "less is more." Part 1's story is not nearly as complex as Part 2's. There was too much to remember/care about in the sequel. The original (and Left Behind) were tighter, more focused stories that were much easier to connect with. All that said, the leaks spoiled some of this story for me before launch. I still played it twice to experience it for myself in context. I'll never know how I would have felt about this game if I went in completely blind. I'm not sure if I would have liked it more or less than I do now. That's my take on the story but everything else in this game is fantastic, so I can't give this game too low a score either. However, since the main selling point of this game is the narrative, I can't give it a very high score either. I couldn't agree more with 55%.
@ajnintzel9336
@ajnintzel9336 Год назад
id give it a higher rating personally, but everything you said is absolutely true. Still gonna play the third game though lmao.
@bubba2922
@bubba2922 Год назад
Yet it won goty
@memecliparchives2254
@memecliparchives2254 Год назад
Also plot armor and plot conveniences. Especially HOW IN HELL A WOUNDED ELLIE MANAGES TO GET A DYING DINA AND TOMMY AND POSSIBLY JESSE'S CORPSE ALL THE WAY FROM SEATTLE, WASHINGTON TO JACKSON, WYOMING. No gameplay segment of it. No explanation. Apparently it doesn't matter. What a gotcha moment. Bottomline that's just it. The game is full of gotcha moments, you can't really take the story seriously.
@callumbreton8930
@callumbreton8930 Год назад
​@@bubba2922 yes, the glorified circlejerk, how astounding
@Koraidon576
@Koraidon576 Год назад
@@memecliparchives2254 In the first part of the game Abby's group could have ended Ellie but chose not to for the sake of plot and in the final part Ellie has no reason not to let Abby die on that post. This game absolutely has plot conveniences like you said 100%.
@tomgodfrey92
@tomgodfrey92 2 года назад
So immature that people instantly assume you’re homophobic or hate that joel died if you say the game is bad
@Ebh55.
@Ebh55. 4 месяца назад
Exactly! I am bisexual and I think this video game is bad (the gameplay's good though).
@kokdolfn
@kokdolfn 2 месяца назад
@@Ebh55. my thoughts exactly (not the bisexual part)
@6ixlxrd
@6ixlxrd 4 года назад
Imagine Luke being killed by a woman whose father was a Stormtrooper on the Death Star when it blew up.
@callum6224
@callum6224 4 года назад
I can, because Star Wars is terrible. This game wasn’t that bad
@TheHolySemiColon
@TheHolySemiColon 4 года назад
Honestly after the shitshow that was the sequel trilogy that definitely sounds like something that could have happened
@vortex_1336
@vortex_1336 4 года назад
I think that would have been better than what we got.
@axe7665
@axe7665 4 года назад
Isn't that Mara Jade's plotline, minus the fact her father figure is not a stormtrooper but the emperor?
@ElementVoidX
@ElementVoidX 4 года назад
@@callum6224 true the game was much worse.
@jy4266
@jy4266 4 года назад
The Last of Us Part 3: Hundreds of characters are seeking revenge for every person that Ellie and Abby have killed.
@Luna-mo4bp
@Luna-mo4bp 4 года назад
Then its theme is Kill no good unless you big hulk bolk girl mmmm hulk bolk girl
@ordjk4797
@ordjk4797 4 года назад
You just gotta wait another 8 years or so
@cobra8888
@cobra8888 4 года назад
HalJo Dav The Last of Us Part 3: The Search For Schlock.
@griffith4723
@griffith4723 4 года назад
And then don’t kill either of them
@griffith4723
@griffith4723 4 года назад
jorryn parks nah how about they cut off their own fingers
@f-14enthusiast63
@f-14enthusiast63 2 года назад
Hearing Charlie talking so passionately about this is genuinely inspiring
@user-bc5kq2mj9r
@user-bc5kq2mj9r 9 месяцев назад
I love how when Charlie starts talking about how beautiful the game is, the camera starts glitching around the environment, prolly some comedic timing
@CryCrow
@CryCrow 4 года назад
Ellie: Kills an army of people while hunting for Abby Ellie: Kills a pregnant lady Ellie: Spares the woman who kills her father figure
@acidpilled8733
@acidpilled8733 4 года назад
Man* that kills her father
@Jeff_Green
@Jeff_Green 4 года назад
Sounds pretty dope to me imo
@zandoe
@zandoe 4 года назад
Jeff Green 😂😂😂😂
@Over9000DragonFire
@Over9000DragonFire 4 года назад
@@acidpilled8733 no
@TheDorianTube
@TheDorianTube 4 года назад
@@acidpilled8733 No anymore. It seems that after the leaks they did a little damage control because the alphabet soup people went commando, so now Abbie is just a veeery jacked girl lol
@solomahoneboy4090
@solomahoneboy4090 4 года назад
People waited 7 years for this. I won't say anything else.
@AceKilla08
@AceKilla08 4 года назад
It could be worse... you could’ve waited a whole week for the Tulsa convention
@melvinplaysgaming4030
@melvinplaysgaming4030 4 года назад
Ace Killa 08 lol
@JaceWoodwardjpg
@JaceWoodwardjpg 4 года назад
You think they can mess up skate 4 this bad?
@Coolguy-ht1cx
@Coolguy-ht1cx 4 года назад
CactusCola if they somehow incorporate that shitty EA/madden pay-for-everything-esque gameplay then yes. I just want a refined version of Skate 3, maybe more features. No stupid shit.
@fuegosonic93
@fuegosonic93 4 года назад
Duke Nukem Forever took 14 years lol.
@adratsosanastasios-wi6oo
@adratsosanastasios-wi6oo Год назад
One of the best rants I have heard in a long time. And well deserved. After I watched season 1 of the last of us without playing the games, I couldn't believe what I saw and knew I had to play them. The first game was incredible. This game was the opposite. Thank you for this rant, even though I'm almost 3 years late.
@lickinginprocess
@lickinginprocess Год назад
I did same and thought Joel was the main protagonist and then this game biffed lke a mf
@adratsosanastasios-wi6oo
@adratsosanastasios-wi6oo Год назад
@@lickinginprocess That wasn’t even my main problem with the second game. It’s just that no one else in the story was even close to as interesting as Joel was. And no two characters had the same dynamic as Joel and Ellie. Also the first game had the stakes of all of humanity on the line, this shit just had one human wanting to kill another human and many other humans dying but not the main humans.
@petrikor
@petrikor Год назад
I was in the same boat but loved the game. It's insane how divided fans are on it, seems like half the players hate it and half don't. Idk what that says about it, maybe that their choices were very bold..
@camopb1548
@camopb1548 11 месяцев назад
Last of us 2 is personally my favorite game, say what u will about the story but the adrenaline and excitement out of the gameplay makes it a top tier for me
@admilz
@admilz 11 месяцев назад
Did you want the same exact game? Sure, Joel and Ellie’s relationship is the best in the first game but you could’ve guessed from Joel’s lies that Ellie would eventually figure out the truth. Naughty Dog already made one of the best games ever and you can’t just do a copy of the storyline with some new characters and expect to call it a game. Say what you want, but you gotta praise the balls they had to do this
@kylaia3155
@kylaia3155 22 дня назад
As much as I want to disagree, I just can't... especially the way Charlie perfectly describes all of its problems. TLOU 1 was pretty much flawless in its story and TLOU 2 did NOT live up to those standards... maybe they really should have stopped at 1.
@creeperbell
@creeperbell 14 дней назад
if they made joel's death better, and did what charlie with the flashbacks leading up, then it would be a lot better
@frednamclastname5643
@frednamclastname5643 4 года назад
Ok, I'm very openly gay, and I said I didn't like the story, someone still called me a homophobe.
@nopium9627
@nopium9627 4 года назад
You may be openly gay, but you're not the right kind of openly gay.
@ComicGladiator
@ComicGladiator 4 года назад
If you don't support TLOU2, you aint gay - Joe Biden
@theconspiracycaptain1916
@theconspiracycaptain1916 4 года назад
You're a gay person who doesn't allow themselves to be used as a shield for low quality products, which means Twitter and Tumblr will do everything in their power to act like you don't exist.
@benthemother3fan884
@benthemother3fan884 4 года назад
I feel bad that you're forced in a community that gives you the illusion that you are loved but the moment you don't think the way the hivemind does your caster out. Your opinion matters my guy/gal
@damienvandepol
@damienvandepol 4 года назад
According to the internet: I've contracted all diseases known to mankind, I apperently am left/right/libertarian/commie/capitalist/nazi/salafist and I sexually identify myself as every letter of the alphabet, but I'm a alphabetphobe as well. In other words, welcome to the party, pal!
@masterofnothing4938
@masterofnothing4938 4 года назад
They act like this revenge plot is the most unique story when literally naruto did the same thing but somehow better
@DR3S1NGH
@DR3S1NGH 4 года назад
Naruto even had a ton of flashbacks too lmao
@RampagingFlippy030
@RampagingFlippy030 4 года назад
which is like saying a turd somehow did better, so nice job Naughty Dog, a turd beat you.
@umersalman1
@umersalman1 4 года назад
Not gonna lie.... sasuke revenge story was nicely executed.
@actualllyavailable
@actualllyavailable 4 года назад
@@RampagingFlippy030 are u seriously comparing naruto to a turd ?
@dice3041
@dice3041 4 года назад
@@umersalman1 he's talking about pain
@sage1274
@sage1274 Месяц назад
"The only thing we learn about Manny is that he loves his dog and he says 'Pendejo' a lot-" absolutely KILLED me
@jmb9040
@jmb9040 3 года назад
TLoU Part 3: Some random NPC goes full John Wick trying to avenge his dog ellie killed
@Sunrise1781
@Sunrise1781 3 года назад
You basically spoiled the whole plot for Part 3, shame on you! 😁
@theshooterflynn
@theshooterflynn 3 года назад
@@Sunrise1781 plot twist, we play as the dog's now-adult puppy going on a revenge-murder spree and starting a civil war between feral cats and badgers along the way as we sniff and hunt for Ellie.
@BeretBay
@BeretBay 3 года назад
Honestly, that would be better story as long as they do it right. That could be a cool new protagonist for an entirely new cast. If they completely start over in III, that would actually be a decent buy. lol
@Mehmet-ok9ns
@Mehmet-ok9ns 3 года назад
Plot twist: We are going to play as a transgender furry in The Last of us Part 3
@Mehmet-ok9ns
@Mehmet-ok9ns 3 года назад
@Possibly your mom who knows...
@lewisnorth1188
@lewisnorth1188 4 года назад
Can't wait for The Last of Us 3 where you play as the cousin of the soldier that killed Sarah and you have to kill Tommy
@Funnii_666
@Funnii_666 4 года назад
we will play as a orphan puppy (because Ellie shoots her entire dog family) in search for her for vengeance: The last of bark.
@sebastianmartin8665
@sebastianmartin8665 4 года назад
Lmao smooth
@jimmynomanners6091
@jimmynomanners6091 4 года назад
I actually snorted at this comment
@SMQ7
@SMQ7 4 года назад
😂😂👌🏻fucking true
@Bleax
@Bleax 4 года назад
That would actually be a better end for Tommy than they gave him
@thedoomtestament4547
@thedoomtestament4547 Год назад
The last of us seriously did not need a sequel
@Ebh55.
@Ebh55. 3 месяца назад
They *could* have made a sequel that was *actually* excellent. Sadly, they didn't.
@user-ls3gv8mj3g
@user-ls3gv8mj3g 11 месяцев назад
My favourite part was when Abby said “We are the last of us part 2 Ellie”
@ayyylmao101
@ayyylmao101 3 года назад
I'm still mad Ellie and Dina didn't acknowledge the horses' death. SHIMMER DESERVED BETTER
@calebmaceachern3598
@calebmaceachern3598 3 года назад
Yeah fr wasn't shimmer ellies horse ever since she's been in jackson
@beanzuwu
@beanzuwu 3 года назад
*angry Arthur Morgan noises*
@TheArmidillionAire
@TheArmidillionAire 3 года назад
@@beanzuwu I reloaded my save and grabbed the backup horse. Aint nobody killing my boi Tomo.
@omu6740
@omu6740 3 года назад
@@beanzuwu lost my black arabian, nugget. shit hurted
@DaSourOrange
@DaSourOrange 3 года назад
@@beanzuwu yeah right. Arthur's horse died and he stopped to say goodbye to it while being fired at and close to death where Ellie and Dina never talk about it again
@anungunrama9344
@anungunrama9344 4 года назад
I started to like Jessie and then thirty seconds later he's dead. And then i forgot he existed
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 4 года назад
Terribly writen character
@amokana
@amokana 4 года назад
oh you mean the sperm donor guy ?
@burninator14
@burninator14 4 года назад
Kinda confused by this point of criticism - Jesse shows up in a journal you can find in the house during the farm sequence, and in a cutscene right afterwards. Don't get me wrong, the game is not good, but all the people getting the most attention in their criticisms of it are making are pretty stupid points, and thereby supporting the positive reactions the moronic game journalism community members are making.
@diego-bv9tt
@diego-bv9tt 4 года назад
idk why but already at the beginning i knew he was going to be killed in some shit way, shame i was right
@l.k.5868
@l.k.5868 4 года назад
It felt like the writers where like "oh shit.. if he survives then we have to think about how we handle the whole baby situation. Huh.. you know what that means" but I wasn't even sad about it because they didn't even give you any chances to connect with him.
@jerry-uj8jw
@jerry-uj8jw 10 месяцев назад
3 years later and Charlie is still right
@FyreClips
@FyreClips 10 месяцев назад
nah
@maquainferno
@maquainferno 10 месяцев назад
Eh sure just depends on the person the writing was objectively bad but I enjoyed it more than the first, although the first was amazing aswell
@jerry-uj8jw
@jerry-uj8jw 9 месяцев назад
@@maquainferno fair
@thelivingdrawing2262
@thelivingdrawing2262 2 года назад
They realized the story had very little actual substance and hastily covered it up by being as grimdark as possible so it’s impossible to actually care about the story, which distracts you from it’s lack of substance. It’s genius. Just randomly kill off 2 of the only likable characters (Joel and Jesse) for Shock Value.
@ayeoneup7645
@ayeoneup7645 Год назад
They really do make all the women in this game annoying assholes. Based but also not what they were going for I’d imagine.
@pblmrt
@pblmrt 4 года назад
Imagine if Tony Stark didn’t snap his fingers and had shawarma with Thanos
@user-tq6fx7tl7e
@user-tq6fx7tl7e 4 года назад
Captain Marvel or Dr. Strange wouldve came in action.
@bobbyrayvictory6905
@bobbyrayvictory6905 4 года назад
@@SirGrimLockSmithVIII and then ate him.... Savage
@taq1361
@taq1361 4 года назад
lmao
@trev-the-beast
@trev-the-beast 4 года назад
This is probably one of the outcomes Dr. Strange saw.
@thetimelords911
@thetimelords911 4 года назад
@@SirGrimLockSmithVIII Assuming the level of injury caused by the snap is proportional to the wish power, Tony Stark might have actually lived to eat him lol.
@Logo1770
@Logo1770 4 года назад
The fact that there isn’t a single character that dies to a zombie in a zombie apocalypse game is crazy to me
@pizzaowl1305
@pizzaowl1305 4 года назад
The telltale zombie games were pretty good tho
@magnatcleo2043
@magnatcleo2043 4 года назад
A zombie apocalypse game where the zombie apocalypse is irrelevant to the plot . . . perfect (not really)!
@longagaming9208
@longagaming9208 4 года назад
@@magnatcleo2043 The thing about zombie apocalypses is that people are more dangerous than zombies
@magnatcleo2043
@magnatcleo2043 4 года назад
@@longagaming9208 Humans should never be so much more dangerous that the zombies become irrelevant, as there would be no point in still having the zombies as a threat.
@twistedwasp8862
@twistedwasp8862 4 года назад
@@magnatcleo2043 have you seen Night of the Living Dead? George Romero himself (credited father of modern zombies) said that zombies are more like props or plot devices designed to further the story. Humans are the monsters as survival often means killing anything that threatens that idea.
@yavorvlaskov5404
@yavorvlaskov5404 Год назад
The sudden transition to a Manscape ad and the mention of "nose pubic hairs" was somehow smoother and more coherent than half of the transitions between scenes in the game.
@seansimmons6932
@seansimmons6932 Год назад
which is an insane downgrade from the first game and its perfect intro transitions
@FinalStarman95
@FinalStarman95 4 года назад
I can't wait for The Last of Us 3 where Ellie gets beaten to death with a lacrosse stick in the first 2 hours of the game.
@liuner2479
@liuner2479 4 года назад
Plot twist: Abby sets out a revenge journey for Ellie.
@thatoneguy4108
@thatoneguy4108 4 года назад
She forgot to lock the door and the revenge got in
@antitroller101
@antitroller101 4 года назад
A lacrosse stick. Nah not vengeful enough, now boxing gloves, DAT will get the vengeance flowing
@scottiecurrie7927
@scottiecurrie7927 4 года назад
Nah Ellies dead dude. She committed suicide in the woods at the end. The voice actor for Ellie was booted out by Neil as well
@eetein9704
@eetein9704 4 года назад
@@liuner2479 Now Abby is mad bc Ellie had spared her. Do you see the importance of making friends kids? kill bad friend good. now that I look at tlou2 this seems possible
@gilla2092
@gilla2092 4 года назад
"I did not want to see a sequel. What they did wrapped it up perfectly in the first." THANK you.
@sonicmania6753
@sonicmania6753 4 года назад
Disney sequels in a nutshell.
@noone-rt6ib
@noone-rt6ib 4 года назад
Lmao mlg reddit
@scottieyusuke
@scottieyusuke 4 года назад
Oh my god someone finally put it to words
@TechnoMinarchistBall
@TechnoMinarchistBall 4 года назад
@@sonicmania6753 I mean Star Wars could've had good sequels if Disney tried actually expanding the universe and took some tips from the EU. Did episode 6 need sequels? No, but it could've been done properly and it wasn't and that's the real tragedy.
@itriedtochangemynamebutitd5019
@itriedtochangemynamebutitd5019 4 года назад
I agree except that they "shouldn't tell more stories in the universe" I think tlou could be like the walking dead, were it tells multiple stories from different people. Dont think they can top the first game, but imagine 100 days but in tlou world. I'd love that.
@chickensofdeath490
@chickensofdeath490 Год назад
Don't let people gaslight you into thinking the game is good now
@johnhenry1190
@johnhenry1190 Год назад
Oh the irony
@drexlspivey3047
@drexlspivey3047 4 месяца назад
​@@johnhenry1190😂
@SourenaFFS
@SourenaFFS Год назад
I was tired of big streamers just backing up tlou2 to go with the flow, I'm happy after seeing this moist meter, charlie never disappoints
@booker229
@booker229 Год назад
Uh I think that hating on the game is going with the flow
@camopb1548
@camopb1548 11 месяцев назад
No streamers were praising it tf u on about
@zaloon148
@zaloon148 11 месяцев назад
​@@booker229its really not
@booker229
@booker229 11 месяцев назад
@@zaloon148 Its one of the most passionately hated games ever made lol its not like this is a hot take
@zaloon148
@zaloon148 11 месяцев назад
@@booker229 doesn't mean hating it is going with the flow. People who defend it usually only defend it cuz other people do
@dancinggrenades6178
@dancinggrenades6178 4 года назад
Hello my name is Iñigo Montoya you killed my father, prepare to live.
@tackyproduct
@tackyproduct 4 года назад
This comparison would only make sense if the six-fingered man had a reason for the terrible things he'd done, and Inigo's quest for revenge had stripped away most of his humanity and positive memories of his father, and the six-fingered man had spared Inigo's life twice, and right before killing the man he hates most in the world Inigo had realized that one more dead body wouldn't bring his father back from the dead.
@MrIKicker
@MrIKicker 4 года назад
underrated comment
@josephstalin7353
@josephstalin7353 4 года назад
@@tackyproduct well the six fingered man did try to get indigo killed when they infiltrated the castle
@conesinker_4209
@conesinker_4209 3 года назад
@@tackyproduct "My name is Jack Marston you killed my father now I'm gonna let you go even though I killed a whole bunch of people to get to you"
@danb7202
@danb7202 3 года назад
Shane Maguire why are you trying so hard lol
@justicet6487
@justicet6487 3 года назад
This game literally makes you forget you are in a zombie apocalypse
@whippyfunnyman
@whippyfunnyman 3 года назад
Bruh facts
@TheKatera4a
@TheKatera4a 3 года назад
The zombies were there as a joke. There aren't many other games that have a core gameplay mechanic like TloU2, but one example is The Walking Dead. There zombies were a real fuckin' threat to the story. Here, they are kinda just there, watching Ellie kill a hundred people all in the name of reve- Oh wait. Revenge got thrown out of the window, because it's ''bad''.
@jian1407
@jian1407 3 года назад
Wait this is a zombie game? I'm sorry I forgot this was a zombie game...
@benitoperez8884
@benitoperez8884 3 года назад
@@maxgarcia8019 yeah but the zombies of the last of us were unique when i hear a clicker in the game i piss my pants
@benitoperez8884
@benitoperez8884 3 года назад
@@maxgarcia8019 well we will never know
@Speedur_
@Speedur_ 8 месяцев назад
To be fair they mentioned Jesse when ellie was gearing up to leave on the farm after Tommy arrived.
@sigmachad5331
@sigmachad5331 Год назад
"revenge bad but not for abby" TLOU2
@waflestix346
@waflestix346 3 месяца назад
She got absolutely wrecked. She lost all her friends
@fellowcomrade7357
@fellowcomrade7357 4 года назад
Imagine Lee finding Clementine's kidnapper and then letting him keep her and The Walking Dead game series ends like that.
@TheRainBros1
@TheRainBros1 4 года назад
I compare Joel to Lee a lot THAT'S how you send off a character. Not go 400 yds with him on a tee lol
@pr0xemality144
@pr0xemality144 4 года назад
or clementine finding out who killed lee, killing an army of people to get to him and then letting him go (btw I know lee wasn't killed by someone but its an example)
@penguinjay
@penguinjay 4 года назад
imagine if you spent 8x as much money on brokeback mountain, you don't know what that is yet, and you were promised Red Dead Redemption 2, but you realize after putting a lot of time into the beginning of the story, around hour 10 you're like, THIS IS BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN. SHIT. And the girls never come, and the western you were promised is half assed Red Dead Redeption 1 shit plus it manages to disrespect characters and shoehorn in stupid shit as well. That's how it must feel to purchase this game.
@NinjapowerMS
@NinjapowerMS 4 года назад
Imagine playing Red dead redemption as Ross and at the end of the game Jack wimps out that revenge is bad but of course after Ross shooting some fingers first.
@fierysmile2929
@fierysmile2929 4 года назад
Normally, I like angry Charlie, but this isn't angry Charlie. This is anguished Charlie.
@Chadronius
@Chadronius 4 года назад
Punished
@joelbroadcastinggroup7991
@joelbroadcastinggroup7991 4 года назад
Charlie has ran out of anger
@Keanucreams
@Keanucreams 4 года назад
Get this man a bandana and an eye patch
@dylang1138
@dylang1138 4 года назад
he's not mad, just disappointed
@koralreef1198
@koralreef1198 4 года назад
Fierysmile punished “moist venom” charlie
@TheGreatAndEpicMe
@TheGreatAndEpicMe Год назад
Imagine this. The game starts of with you as a Abby, the story is framed as a revenge story of finding who killed her family or whatever, just some basic plot that is not uncommon to games. Joel and Ellie aren't mentioned at all. For the first section, all of the gameplay is with Abby. The Last of Us 2 is framed as a story completely different and independent from the first game, fooling the player the Last of Us is more of anthology series on survivors in the post-apocalypse rather than one whole story. You learn more about Abby, and become more attached to her character and past, as you have to Joel and Ellie. You play through like 5 hours of normal exploring, piecing together clues and following a trail of this mystery man who killed your family. Then, you come across Joel all of a sudden in the wilderness, work together to survive a horde. Hopefully making you think "Pretty cool that they did a cameo for Joel from the last game" but think nothing more of it. Then he introduces himself, and the story plays out as it did in this game, with both protagonists killing each others friends and family slowly, hurting characters you've built relationships with and cared about the whole game(s). I think that framing provides a more gripping story about revenge and actually teaches the lesson of it clearly, seeing as you may have actually cared about the the characters before they died. And this way, you actually empathize with Abby more, rather than just hating her outright from the get-go.
@crazyinsane500
@crazyinsane500 Год назад
Yeah, that thing you just did? We call that a second draft, something that takes the first draft and fixes quite a few mistakes and reworks things so it's viable. You're not the first one to do this and you're not gonna be the last, because this was never given that treatment before they started charging money for it. TLOU2 was a rough draft presented as a final product and it shows, doesn't it?
@Solidsnaik
@Solidsnaik Год назад
So if they pulled an MGS2 and the story was more predictable then people would be less mad? I really don’t think so. The way it was structured seemed deliberately designed to provoke the most visceral emotion. What you call “gripping” might’ve seemed more cliche and harder to pace than what Naughty Dog was going for. I think we all would know Joel was the one Abby was looking for, so there’s no point drawing that out for 5 hours. I really don’t see that reveal carrying much weight at all just by trying to pretend that her story was unrelated to the first game. If we empathize with Abby from the beginning, her redemption arc would be much more predictable and Ellie’s choice at the end would be much more obviously spelled out as the “correct” one. I don’t think anyone who wasn’t spoiled could’ve seen any of the events coming. I’m so glad they didn’t go the pandering route with just another Joel and Ellie adventure with a touch of revenge for added drama. I’m glad this game is inspiring so many people to see if they could take a crack at laying out a better story. Its interesting its like seeing the bargaining phase if grief play out in the comments section.
@crazyinsane500
@crazyinsane500 Год назад
@@Solidsnaik This wasn't the well thought out masterpiece you think it is. TLOU2's basis is in a rejected TLOU1 plot, now commonly known as the Tess Hunts Joel plot, that was thrown out by then-director Bruce Straley. Like any other entitled artist who thinks they are incapable of anything less than perfection, instead of accepting that it didn't work and letting it die, Neil Druckmann reworked that rejected plot into a new game, without care to address the issues of *why* it was rejected and thus creating new issues along the way. Worse yet is that his attempt at ruining the characters of Ellie and Joel was just an attempt to totally torch the franchise out of childish spite because, despite rejecting his plot, the original game succeeded overwhelmingly, showing they were *right* to reject it. It's not intentionally going for the emotions you're thinking of: The writer IS just that bad. If they weren't they wouldn't have kept firing employees for picking up on that "visceral reaction" and not liking Abby.(Yes, people lost their jobs because they didn't like Neil Druckmann's OC meant to replace Joel and Ellie)
@sex06
@sex06 Год назад
that would be so predictable
@crazyinsane500
@crazyinsane500 Год назад
@@sex06 Iron Man taking the ring from Frodo to drop it into Mount Doom or vaporize it with his fire breath would also not be predictable. Wanna try using the only other braincell you have to figure out that unpredictable =/= good?
@AidanS99
@AidanS99 11 месяцев назад
Still mad about how this game turned out. Does anyone else remember Henry and Sam. They had 1.5 hours in the first game and their deaths were DEVASTATING!!! It feels like whoever wrote these new characters had never made a connection with another person before! Not to mention the lazy guilt trips, and even lazier attempts to make Ellie the bad guy.
@Daniel-bb9qj
@Daniel-bb9qj 4 года назад
The way that they killed off Joel is like if Obi-Wan got killed at Mos Eisley by those thugs
@henrikung4489
@henrikung4489 4 года назад
Daniel don't know who mos ebiley was. Which mean you are on point.
@john_6232
@john_6232 4 года назад
Daniel Or if the younglings killed Anakin
@Jackmaaaan
@Jackmaaaan 4 года назад
Or like Barristan Selmy would be killed by some random thugs. absolutely ridiculous. (fuck d&d btw)
@redjux04
@redjux04 4 года назад
henri kung he's the alien that han solo kills in the bar
@Vain8484
@Vain8484 4 года назад
@@henrikung4489 Mos Eisley is a place not a person
@dartfeld9810
@dartfeld9810 4 года назад
Joel went out like a side character. I rest my case.
@theoian
@theoian 4 года назад
What does that even mean?
@rockstarskolas
@rockstarskolas 4 года назад
It’s realistic. Joel is a hero, but that does not guarantee that he will die a heroes death.
@Azure23_lfc
@Azure23_lfc 4 года назад
worse
@JohnDoe-tn6nq
@JohnDoe-tn6nq 4 года назад
*Everyone after Joel gets clubbed.* Why am I still playing? You can see the look of disappointment in people's faces after Joel is clubbed in the first 2 hours lmao.
@gadhhfhf9412
@gadhhfhf9412 4 года назад
Rockstarskolas How you gonna y’all about realistic when it’s a zombie apocalypse where the villain is transgender
@zakako1782
@zakako1782 2 года назад
the gameplay aspect of the game is amazing in my opinion, I love the stealth and such. But the story is NOTHING compared to the first game, and it was honestly the first game to thoroughly piss me off at the end.
@booker229
@booker229 Год назад
Agreed. Genuinely some of the best stealth sections since MGS 5. I do also like the story though, the characters are consistently written and the narrative makes a lot of thematical sense
@mrsull6720
@mrsull6720 8 месяцев назад
@@booker229bro just stfu. Delete that comment. A reason this game is hated. Nothing is consistent. What do u mean Written consistently? What joel being an idiot😂 and ellie going from optimistic to being a psycopath? Where is The «consistency»?
@wackjumpr
@wackjumpr 5 месяцев назад
he also lied about it being completely the same gameplay wise.. the added mechanic of dodging was amazing for combat and led to way better exchanges and the addition of prone and tall grass into encounters was great. seems like he just wanted more reason to harp on it
@I-need-2-win
@I-need-2-win 5 месяцев назад
​@wackjumpr yeah but then it's literally copy and paste, same formula just minor features added and that's it
@valleybiitch
@valleybiitch 2 года назад
i actually loved lev, lev was honestly one of the only aspects of the entire game i liked
@salmaofinlandes6793
@salmaofinlandes6793 2 месяца назад
of course you did
@kokdolfn
@kokdolfn 2 месяца назад
@@salmaofinlandes6793 thats crazy💀💀
@somethingofascientist7084
@somethingofascientist7084 4 года назад
Absolutely legendary how the scooby movie has a higher rating than this
@lancethedecayedguardian2719
@lancethedecayedguardian2719 4 года назад
Yeah because at least that movie kept true to its roots lmao
@cam_sus
@cam_sus 4 года назад
lol
@phantosis6373
@phantosis6373 4 года назад
Scooby Doo is always a classic and they didn't step out of boundary with it's story
@doughboyjimmy4644
@doughboyjimmy4644 4 года назад
That kinda happens when people review bomb something
@linkron9746
@linkron9746 4 года назад
@@doughboyjimmy4644 oh, please. A review bomb is undeserved. TLoU2 clearly deserves the shit scores.
@phet1211
@phet1211 4 года назад
Funny enough game reviewers loved this game but fans didn’t, but with the spongebob game they hated it but the fans loved it
@ShaunMengel
@ShaunMengel 4 года назад
game reviewers aren't fans. They're paid to write anything positive without actually playing. Easy money for IGN and Gamespot
@withnail-and-i
@withnail-and-i 4 года назад
I respect SpongeBob because of Ween
@Brazknuckles50
@Brazknuckles50 4 года назад
The irony of critics and audiences
@Trashm1n
@Trashm1n 4 года назад
*money does the talkin*
@jak3y3
@jak3y3 4 года назад
It seems audiences know more about video games than these journalists that claim to know so much. I listen to fan criticism more than actual reviewers when it comes to games. Rehydrated truly is a fantastic game, and honestly has a better narrative than The Last of Us 2.
@icemuncher5000
@icemuncher5000 5 месяцев назад
nah cus what if ellie said "its ellie time" and then ellied all over abbys friends
@BladedAngel
@BladedAngel 4 года назад
Honestly, the nameless AI have more compassion for their fallen comrades than either of the Lead Characters.
@danolix
@danolix 4 года назад
XD
@siyacer
@siyacer 4 года назад
Modern supercars look the same
@tylershep4220
@tylershep4220 4 года назад
Oh, but some of them do have names, evidenced by the fact that their friends scream out their names when you shoot them to make you feel bad about yourself.
@jorge8596
@jorge8596 4 года назад
No Miata 0/10
@drakefrom2011
@drakefrom2011 4 года назад
holy shit you're here
@deech8539
@deech8539 4 года назад
Idk how the writers thought it made sense for ellie to go on a murdering rampage in Seattle and when she got to abby she just didnt have the balls to kill her
@obamacheck3567
@obamacheck3567 4 года назад
I thought of it as when Ellie finally got her goal right in front of her, her revenge rage and adrenaline wore off and finally realized what she had done to get to her, and her leaving her to live was less “I’m being noble” and more “what’s the point?” I’m only hearing these pieces from spoilers, I haven’t played the game yet, and according to a lot of people’s opinions, I could still be let down
@Dojyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
@Dojyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan 4 года назад
Obama Check you will be, better to save $60.
@spacedog2535
@spacedog2535 4 года назад
Obama Check, but remember, if you end up not liking it- you’re a transphobic, homophobic, bigot. It’s better not to touch the thing with a 20 yard stick.
@lzerith3139
@lzerith3139 4 года назад
@@obamacheck3567 I would totally understand if it was not for something that happens literally 10 seconds before she chooses to not do the deed. 🤦‍♂️
@jari32
@jari32 4 года назад
@Erykaldo 120 I don't know. Looking at those sales. It's going to be 60 dollars until Black Friday.
@angelserenade
@angelserenade Год назад
I'm surprised Charlie didn't mentioned the unwanted sex scene on this game
@Numbskill
@Numbskill Год назад
He probably wanted to spare us
@owen723
@owen723 Год назад
Bro, both of those came out of fucking nowhere. Clickers could have seen those coming better than me.
@ayeoneup7645
@ayeoneup7645 Год назад
It felt so ingenuine. Like they definitely just wanted to be edgy.
@Miuranger1
@Miuranger1 Год назад
Omds abby had pecs that would make arnold jealous lol
@sacrum6335
@sacrum6335 Месяц назад
Imagine if Kratos helped Gaia up Mount Olympus to go give Zeus a hug because revenge is bad.
@KingDusk278
@KingDusk278 4 года назад
Imagine John Wick killing everyone except for the guy that killed his dog
@memes_r_underrated
@memes_r_underrated 4 года назад
I was literally about to comment this 😂
@art92
@art92 4 года назад
This!!!!! Lmao
@RobsQuest
@RobsQuest 4 года назад
Just because John Wick sees the face of his dog.
@d.1262
@d.1262 4 года назад
Don't forget the person who killed his dog becomes a main character and beats the crap out of John Wick leaving him to miserably accept it and let it go.
@michellecieoffi4846
@michellecieoffi4846 4 года назад
Yeah. That's like traveling across the country to save humanity and then not doing that at the very last minute because you have daughter issues.
@Vinyltoast
@Vinyltoast 4 года назад
Imagine playing hitman and killing all the NPC's but leaving the target and calling it a day.
@hehexd3692
@hehexd3692 4 года назад
You kill everybody but yamizaki and soders, then soders attacks you with his golf club after his heart surgery while yamizaki spits on you
@deadspiderjmortal2604
@deadspiderjmortal2604 4 года назад
Did you see the angry joe video too.
@general_wanobi2973
@general_wanobi2973 4 года назад
Ah yes callmekevin playing hitman
@minine6508
@minine6508 Год назад
my biggest problem with this game is that treat you like a fucking child with the story and it's themes. I get it bro, I'm supposed to feel bad for playing ellie and killing a dog. You don't have to hold my hand and tell it to me like i just got out my 4th grade english class
@samc863
@samc863 2 года назад
Joel in #1: must not tell anyone who I am trust no one Joel in #2: hello group of strangers it's me Joel bash my head in with a golf club
@krasmasov6852
@krasmasov6852 2 года назад
Lmao Joel had an aversion to names in the first game because he feared attachment, not as a survival tactic.
@romondoto2630
@romondoto2630 3 года назад
"You can go zeus, just leave" *kratos*
@BeretBay
@BeretBay 3 года назад
"You're right Iosef. It _was_ just a dog. Don't do it again." *John Wick*
@redmarine2717
@redmarine2717 3 года назад
i think the best revenge game is GOD OF WAR cause in the series kratos didn't care if revenge is bad or not he just wanted his revenge and then in GOD OF WAR4 you see the impact of his past
@jasonalv7436
@jasonalv7436 3 года назад
@@redmarine2717 that's how you do a revenge story, show the impact of revenge instead of the complete opposite
@redmarine2717
@redmarine2717 3 года назад
@@jasonalv7436 yes
@blackdynamite_5470
@blackdynamite_5470 3 года назад
_"I'm not gonna Kill Bill"_ ~The Bride 2020
@miguelangelmachaj742
@miguelangelmachaj742 4 года назад
Imagine if Thanos got all the infinity stones just to not snap his fingers.
@ReptarTheUgly
@ReptarTheUgly 4 года назад
What if Thanos did snap his fingers but there was no fixing anything. Haha
@sotszkin5542
@sotszkin5542 4 года назад
Jaime Ruiz Neither if he not snap. Haha
@kyplaygaming
@kyplaygaming 4 года назад
Yeah it be more like thanos kills everyone and the avengers are like “no revenge is bad”
@matiaspereyra9375
@matiaspereyra9375 4 года назад
Imagine him being like "Not worth it"
@cheifwaffle
@cheifwaffle 4 года назад
This comment is everywhere
@pestenkeranii
@pestenkeranii Год назад
''it feels like it was written by actual amateurs'' i mean i wouldn't call neil druckmann a professional
@crazyinsane500
@crazyinsane500 Год назад
He only had one published work in his life that wasn't just him taking credit from someone else and it was so terrible you can hardly pirate it. He's definitely not professional in terms of mannerisms, but he's about as much of an amateur as the guys behind Empress Theresa or Eye of Argon.
@angel_of_rust
@angel_of_rust 3 месяца назад
he's a simp for anita sarkeesian
@defaultuser000001
@defaultuser000001 Год назад
There is something seriously wrong with people who liked this game and I don't want to interact with them in any way.
@jhanks3
@jhanks3 Год назад
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read in my entire life. Can't imagine being such a closed-minded person. Interacting with you in any way would probably make me dumber.
@DrillCrab
@DrillCrab 27 дней назад
I have played this game over 7 times.
@motauman1372
@motauman1372 Год назад
"You better close widows tonight cause your letting the revenge in" 🤣🤣🤣
@catchifyoucan232
@catchifyoucan232 4 года назад
I don't think I've EVER heard so much heat and anger in Charlie's voice.
@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012
@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 4 года назад
i bet you never watched his rainbow six siege livestream clip while he screams at toxic players
@bigtuna300
@bigtuna300 4 года назад
@@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 he didnt scream. He just said he was a inbred loser lmao
@jesusvelazquez1861
@jesusvelazquez1861 4 года назад
55% yikes
@austinvanderveer213
@austinvanderveer213 4 года назад
Charlie was famous for not ever having an emotion, so you know this game is a betrayal.
@tabbyarts3670
@tabbyarts3670 4 года назад
catchifyoucan232 Ever seen His Cockroach Battle cry?
@razarryan2465
@razarryan2465 4 года назад
So the point of the game is to murder a bunch of innocent, unnamed people but when you find the person you’re trying to get revenge on you just let them live...making all those other deaths meaningless...and everything in the game meaningless... *Storytelling*
@hambonepng1152
@hambonepng1152 4 года назад
uuggh violence bad unga bunga me smart me make good story
@thealucas7247
@thealucas7247 4 года назад
The innocent unnamed people kill you if you don’t kill them. Abby, did not kill you when she could have even after Ellie kills her friends. What Ellie needs is not to kill Abby but to forgive Joel and stop the cycle of violence.
@pollys9340
@pollys9340 4 года назад
Ur Hair wait what are you talking about
@Tomelle_
@Tomelle_ 4 года назад
Told better than naughty dog themselves
@captainobvious1415
@captainobvious1415 4 года назад
Yeah it’s almost like people change their minds.
@AdroitElk
@AdroitElk 6 месяцев назад
He sounds reaally passionate about this one
@Tyler99848
@Tyler99848 Год назад
Just played this game. I wasted 24 hours of my life, I should've just watched the cutscenes on youtube. So disappointing
@wildspirewarrior211
@wildspirewarrior211 4 года назад
I'm just saying if it was Ellie who died Joel would've beat Abby to a pulp before tossing her into a horde of clickers then proceed to wipe out the Wolves.
@rattlepapi2022
@rattlepapi2022 4 года назад
I like your version of the game
@Spiirals
@Spiirals 4 года назад
John wick in this bitch (Joel wick if u will)
@buser99
@buser99 4 года назад
This is better than naughty dogs vision please buy the IP and delete the second game and remake it
@Pedowood
@Pedowood 4 года назад
That actually would have been a very solid revenge story. Joel kills Abby's father and then Abby kills Joel's surrogate daughter and they proceed to wipe each other out until they've lost everything. Would have driven the 'revenge is bad' motif way better than this shit game.
@Q-lays
@Q-lays 4 года назад
@@Pedowood this is it
@nikothecat4500
@nikothecat4500 4 года назад
You know a game has fucked up when Critical releases his longest Moist Meter to date
@Meowblivion
@Meowblivion 4 года назад
my man 👏
@hodb3906
@hodb3906 4 года назад
Yeah. I’ll just watch the streams and playthrough of other youtubers because I don’t want to buy this dogshit game.
@moedbz
@moedbz 4 года назад
@@hodb3906 dog was naughty, dog shat all over us
@KoryLunaa
@KoryLunaa 4 года назад
And the fact that he sounds a lot less restrained and deadpan, he seems alot more pissed in this one
@JohnSmith-df6oi
@JohnSmith-df6oi 4 года назад
The Last of Us 2 is the Gaming equivalent of Game of Thrones Season 8 and The Last Jedi.
@RAINESest_
@RAINESest_ 2 года назад
55% is extremely generous
@Efrencit017
@Efrencit017 Год назад
I genuinely still can’t understand why people think this game is great like that boggles mind. The storyline is so botched. Never have I hated a game more.
@seansimmons6932
@seansimmons6932 Год назад
If they created a bond in the intro with Abby and us to the same degree that we had with Joel when his daughter died, the game would be so different but they were lazy asf
@Efrencit017
@Efrencit017 Год назад
@@seansimmons6932 yeah exactly
@thievingx
@thievingx Год назад
dude fr im stuck on the stan side of the internet for this game and it’s insane the way people defend it, it really isn’t that good and it drives me nuts. it’s like a 6/10 for me at its best.
@darthsand1085
@darthsand1085 4 года назад
Imagine the Punisher finding the people that murdered his family only to sit down and eat a picnic with them.
@shmekelfreckles8157
@shmekelfreckles8157 4 года назад
You know, he probably could've. With some lengthy but dry dialogue about the corporate America and that the fish rots from the head. And then he would've cut their heads off with butter knife.
@NucleaRaptor
@NucleaRaptor 4 года назад
@@shmekelfreckles8157 I'd read it.
@JollyWanker
@JollyWanker 4 года назад
It's like John Wick finding the guy who killed his dog and not killing him. It's like Arya finding the Freys, who were behind The Red Wedding, and letting them live. It's like Eragon finally meeting the Ra'zacs, who killed Brom and Garrow, and not killing them. It's like Vegeta defeating Frieza, the man responsible for the extinction of his entire race, and not killing him. Someone write down even more examples of why Ellie sparing Abby was fucking stupid
@Someguy029
@Someguy029 4 года назад
@@JollyWanker Revenge stories ending in forgiveness or at least letting go of one's hatred is a fairly common trope and not inherently bad. See the Revenant for a somewhat recent and well received depiction of this. Leo lets go of his hate and chooses not to kill the man who murdered his son and left him for dead; he chooses instead to let nature decide the fate of people after a brutal fight, not unlike what happened here. Citing stories wherein the protagonist takes revenge instead of choosing to forgive doesn't further your argument that it's stupid; it just makes you seem young and not well read.
@xbigbubba6944
@xbigbubba6944 4 года назад
It's like John confronting Micah after he killed Arthur and then just tipping his hat and walking away.
@gibbygibbstein7858
@gibbygibbstein7858 4 года назад
Imagine if one of the random Storm Troopers that Han Solo killed had a kid that wanted revenge. This is tlou2
@chiragshetty02
@chiragshetty02 4 года назад
Arent the storm troopers clones?
@axisliving8063
@axisliving8063 4 года назад
@@chiragshetty02 No. While there was a minority of clones in the Galactic Empire's forces, they were largely phased out after the Clone Wars.
@frankenstein6677
@frankenstein6677 4 года назад
It would have still made more sense than the Disney canon.
@drmangler6475
@drmangler6475 4 года назад
That would still make a better story than this mess of a game, especially with Dave Filoni directing it! Also, there is kind of a story like that in the Star Wars universe. A kid's father is killed during a crossfire with rebels and The Empire. The kid grows up, joins the Empire then kills a man after the man kills his commander, then is shot by the little girls father. The cycle will then continue and brings the stormtrooper peace and a smile when he looks at the little girl.
@bigafroman4277
@bigafroman4277 4 года назад
Or if they were pregnant
@vader707yt3
@vader707yt3 Год назад
I don’t think it’s as bad as people say but they made Joel look so fucking stupid in part 2
@alisoyupak2730
@alisoyupak2730 Год назад
Not really
@vader707yt3
@vader707yt3 Год назад
@@alisoyupak2730 he did not trust anyone in the first game in the second game he just tells random people with guns a bunch of stuff about him
@Laikalister
@Laikalister Год назад
@@vader707yt3 He only says his name after Tommy because tommy trusted them, its also almost like Joel had been living in Jackson for 5 years at that point and was accustomed to helping bring new people into Jackson so helping out abby was the norm for him and Tommy. But they put their trust in the wrong people and that's kind of the point. Amazed how people don't understand that 5 years is a long time and that people change, especially when you've been living in an unforgivable world for 20 years and then find a place to live where you could almost go back to normal so it makes sense that Joel wouldn't be as hardened as he was previously, My problem is the game didn't show us enough of that to make it more believable
@Yuuhrd
@Yuuhrd 2 года назад
A disappointment that lives in the shadow of the first
@_xxahmedxx_5396
@_xxahmedxx_5396 4 года назад
Abby: "You took everything from me!" Joel: I dont even know who you are...
@dimyell
@dimyell 3 года назад
Ah yes, the copied and pasted comment.
@wgm4866
@wgm4866 3 года назад
wHo ThE fOok iS tHaT gUy?
@MrDbzguy
@MrDbzguy 3 года назад
go back to reddit
@edgarallanpwned6666
@edgarallanpwned6666 3 года назад
@@MrDbzguy Go back to Twitter
@khai6775
@khai6775 3 года назад
@@edgarallanpwned6666 go back to discord
@TheSamburglar
@TheSamburglar 4 года назад
Imagine Taken if Liam Neeson found his daughter after torturing and killing all those mobsters but then decided to just go home and let his daughter be a sex slave because he realized that “revenge is bad.”
@mckinleyostvig7135
@mckinleyostvig7135 4 года назад
And then the main character becomes the son of one of the mobsters and kills Liam Neeson and the movie acts like Liam was the bad guy all along
@kleberson777
@kleberson777 4 года назад
imagine Agent47 killed all the people except his target and then decide to called it a day
@peterfrank3365
@peterfrank3365 4 года назад
Poor comparison. Mills wasn't going for revenge, he was trying to rescue his daughter. 'Taken 2' dealt with revenge themes but it was forgettable flick.
@jac6548
@jac6548 4 года назад
Honestly, if they pulled off this "revenge is bad" theme in a nuanced way, this could've been the Citizen Kane of video games. Part of me admires them for going for the big haul. Too bad video game developers have the storytelling ability as a down syndrome Michael Bay
@animelytical8354
@animelytical8354 4 года назад
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