Moistcr1tikal on RWBY 

Its Suicide Time!

what's hilarious is that's exactly what it is. He had an entire day planned out for however long he was at that village preventing disasters from destroying the village every single day.

oh god😮

He reacted how _anyone_ would when seeing a clip of a programme 9 seasons in and being given an insufficient summary. Things like this need _context_ to understand, otherwise the experience has almost zero impact on the viewer.

@@Jackson-ub1uvratio

Growth mate

It’s not about the mental breakdown it’s the fact it’s the first bit of character growth rubys going through

@Skythan I'd be it, kinda bad and unexpected but sure. I mean, yea your MAIN CHARACTER needs growth...but seeing it just suddenly happen in volume 9 makes it feel so forced. I think they've could've done it at a better time as well. Like damn, Ruby had to be a vibe killer (Then again Yang x Blake is basically one of many gripes people have with this series.) I feel like they're could've at least done it at the beginning of Volume 9 or something. But I don't really like the concept of mental breakdown=character growth. It kinda sends a bad message in my eyes especially to the people who've actually gone through it. The mental breakdown just feels so forced....nothing about it invokes any type of sympathetic emotion other then just kinda giggling seeing Jaune and Ruby going back and forth. . .but other then that. . .I fail to see the point of it. Not only did it fail as a emotional moment...but they do nothing with it. It just seems like everyone glosses over what just happened as if it was just a minor inconvenience. This "character growth" doesn't show any "growth" at all.

@@Mario-im1rk its not really suddenly it has been progressively occuring the whole season and slowly in the previous seasons, the mental breakdown was the climax not her growth idk what ur talking about

Rwby fans are originally from thumblr that think only trauma can develope a character. Heck how many of this folks keep waiting for ruby to loose an eye.

Ruby ascends, merges with her scythe, and ends up in soul eater :p

We can only hope

"That time I reincarnated after committing suicide to escape my show"

and they all end up in high guardian spice. it's the fate they deserve.

​@@mrosskne I'd rather go to hell tbh

Even that is dying out.

I can’t find any that isn’t incest, futa, or the same three comics….got any recommendations 😂

The last good ones that were made were by Stiker123 and Kallenz and even then, that's not enough to save them.

Sorta like Overwatch?

@@UnknownOps So long as they keep delaying the "PVE campaign", then yeah.

Me too dude. Well, it's more V1-2 in my case, V3 can take the express train straight into Satan's boiler room.

You miss Monty..

@@kingdedede933 Monty’s choreography, the smaller scale, lighter tone, punchy humor, small details to the characters interactions, the fact characters were allowed to interact without vomiting exposition every single line, the incredibly stylish but clean outfits, the incredible score, bombastic soundtrack, and writing that was way more confident in itself

Me too pal,me too….

There was so much potential back then literally had me excited for what the show had to offer

You cannot tell me with complete seriousness that Yang and Blake isn’t heavily forced.I rewatched it to see if any chemistry was being built up and they most of the time only talked hang out with their friends(rare),fighting,or offscreen.

@@Dudewave23 Definitely forced. They came off as bff's. Not to mention, Blake had that clearly romantic-implied character development with Sun.

​@@notthebeastinus2786 It's only romantic implied due to sun being a man, so... you are homophobic

​@@notthebeastinus2786Well yeah. That's because Monty said team RWBY was meant to be more like sisters. The writers decided to wait until his death to tarnish his legacy in order to appeal to cringe shippers that don't know two people can interact without there being romantic undertones.

@@Dudewave23 blacksun is supreme

Imagine writing a character back to life just to kill her again LMAO

Feel like shows are under the impression if they put lesbians in a show, it will be praised and ignore the bad

​@@wingzero7Xwell it's happened many times before

I mean i don't mind romance much Earlier Volumes focused on Ren and Nora along with Jaune and Pyrrha. I just feel like the show dragged out the ship too much without confirming anything until now is the problem

this is so old but wtf help me out when and why did they start calling bumblebee wasp.

art? it's shitty 3d models...

You wasted your time.

you could've made your own thing and pitched it to some big publisher, but that rwby brainrot got etched to your neural spine like many other fandoms.

well, that depends how you wasted your time and if your fanfics are better than rwby

Do you have any recommendations? I know it's been kinda harsh...

ever seen fate?

@Shino Asada That is the exact same case except worse at least with Rwby I can get an idea I don't even know where to begin or end with Fate. Except I've not watched Fate it's never interested me I've watched Rwby however dipped at Vol 5

Jojo and fate ?

@Mr. Decom Thing is Jojo is madness but it's very easy to understand what you're getting into even when I didn't know what a jojo was. Baki is way more ridiculous than Jojo in a good way though I love both

@@sinon4 ayo fate is an entirely different thing in itself, it literally is the definition of 'Hey, that's hell you're walking into' whenever a new person asks the people about the watch order. Plus most of the works rn are at least approved of or basically got a thumbs up by Nasu even if he's not directly involved.

Jesus christ do you need EVERYTHING to be fucking spoonfed to your smooth brain?

Drama queen for no reason lol

That was the whole *point.* The mercy killing was the thing that *no one* could bring themselves to talk about. "Poor Communication Kills." Combined with various (sometimes contrived, sometimes not) circumstances that diverted the other character's attention away from Ruby's slow disintegration...and that's how you get there.

bro you misspelled jaune's name

Juan

Like fully actually unkillable? How are they supposed to win?

@@lishishur293that’s a point of conflict among characters who aren’t explicitly villains. Why fight something you know you cannot win against? The one who is immortal literally asks the question to them all the time lol

​@@lishishur293 1. Yes, _fully_ immortal. Salem is able to reform herself from _nothing_ and shrugs off having her torso exploded outwards and her skull caved in, all with nothing more that a disappointed scowl. Even pools of infinite destruction were unable to break the Gods' curse on her, and only served to corrupt her into a being of infinite life _and_ a desire for destruction. 2. That's _exactly_ the point. For added context (and bear with me here), Salem was a bit like Rapunzel, locked in her tower until a knight rescued her. She and the knight, Ozma, fell in love, but he ends up dying from an illness. Salem asks the God of Light to revive him, gets rejected, then goes to the God of Darkness to ask for the same. He agrees, as he's grateful that someone has _finally_ come to talk to him. The God of Light then arrives, the two brothers trying to undo each others' work by killing and reviving Ozma in front of Salem, before the God of Light reveals that Salem only went to his brother _after_ she was rejected; realising he'd been betrayed, the God of Darkness kills Ozma one last time, and the God of Light curses Salem with immortality to prevent her from reuniting with him. Salem is told that, until she learns to respect the balance between life and death, she will remain alive "for as long as this world turns." Salem then goes around the world, telling people that she had "stolen" immortality from the Gods and convincing them to do the same. When humanity attacks them, the God of Darkness vaporises everyone on the planet, leaving Salem completely alone, and both Gods depart. Eventually, the God of Light decides to give humanity another chance, resurrects Ozma to reincarnate whenever he dies, gives him four Relics, and tells him that the Brothers will come back to judge humanity when the Relics are reunited. If humanity is at peace, then the Gods will return and bring magic back; if humanity is still at war with each other, then the Gods will judge them irredeemable and destroy the planet. After Salem and Ozma reunite in the living world, they start a family. When it turns out that _their_ children can use magic, whereas the rest of humanity 2.0 can't, Salem proposes that she and Ozma kill the current humans and replace them with their own. Ozma disagrees, and they fight each other in a battle that kills their daughters. tl;dr Salem's plan is to divide humanity and reunite the Relics, which would cause the Gods to judge humanity poorly and destroy the planet; she's doing this because she wants to die. Now, onto the main answer. Ozma, currently known as Ozpin, has spent the last several thousand years trying to unite humanity, as well as keeping the Relics from Salem. His win condition is for humanity to be united when the Relics are brought together, and that is the main conflict of RWBY. Salem _cannot_ be killed, so the only thing the heroes can do is _undermine_ her; she divides people from the shadows, so RWBY's plan is to make sure that _everyone_ knows about her plan to destroy the world and uniting humanity by giving them a common enemy.

Just build a rocket and yeet her into the sun.

What about Jinx from Arcane?

>Commits suicide >Returns as Paper Pleaser >Commits suicide again

@@mayorglalie Sure. But I meant that for one of the most unlikable people on remnant that goes out of her way to hate and betray every figure of authority she can, being turned into a being that craves to please would be the perfect punishment for her. And she does need to be punished for her actions. After that, she can be reborn as a creature with more power than she'd ever had before.

​@@seedfan8548 wtf are you on. She is a 17 year old girl trying to save the world.

@@TheBunnyrum at one point Twitter announced she'd turned 18. As to saving the world. She's got a funny way of doing it. Please, do tell, who exactly has she 'saved'?

​@@seedfan8548 nah, i feel like being driven to suicide by a flavor of ice cream and a cat is punishment enough

I haven't seen it, it is worth?

@@kriegenjoyer6913 I'd give it a solid 8/10 at least. Although the animation quality was poor since the budget was considerably lower, the plot was well written and everything had a purpose.

​@@orbitalpotato9940 Keyword is had

@@kriegenjoyer6913 No. You will be bored. As an ex avid fan of the series? I’m protecting you from wasting your time.

vol 1-3 pretty shit but slightly less shitty than the rest

Rooster teeth is finally dead

@@johnjones5626real

I'd argue that Vine's, Penny's and Ruby's "suicide" were not the same. Vine died to save his team mates as they couldn't find a different way to get the bomb off the ship so its self sacrifice Penny dies to get winter maiden power out of her into Winter so Cinder can't get steal it from her so her death was much more of a "greater good" type death Whiles Ruby's death is straight up trauma based Suicide, the big ole depresso expresso. All of the above moment have issues and problems with them narratively, most of all Penny's, but to say that all 3 of them are just the same "edgy suicide" is like looking at Apples, Oranges and Bananas and just saying "well they are all fruit". Your not wrong, but it's completely devoid of detail or context

@@domex3963 ohh lol. I was talking about Genlock season 2. It's basically the ascension thing all over again. Suicide, But it's seen as a good thing. Fucked up writing is what it is.

@@SnowDayJ oh my bad, never mind then, pop off, 👍 I watched season 1 of Genlock and then forgot season 2 existed

@@SnowDayJ noice, I'll give it a watch

@@domex3963 remember that Ruby drank the cup, not because of Penny's death or any other trauma she might have gone through, but because the last thing she really saw was her mouse friend getting stepped on. A mouse. Like wtf

Kind of funny how they killed the only 2 good characters off in the same season. (for me it was top hat guy who got eaten by the bird)

@@rexbot2749roman (loved him)

I think Pyrrha dying was planned from the get go as she was already powerful and her character had nowhere else to go really. I think rwby was ruined when there was 3 seasons of bumbling around doing fuck all as we get exposition dump after dump and shaking of the character traits established in previous seasons to make each of the main 4 a block of wood as the side character cluster eats up more and more screen time.

I mean Pyrrha was actually made to die, looking at her inspiration and how she was written, hell her name, she's a walking death flag character. Of the many random things of RWBY, that's definitely not it

I loved Pyrrha and she is still my favorite character (besides Jaune). Her death should have impacted everyone way more. The JNPR manga has so many scenes that should have been in the show. It is so disappointing but I do highly recommend the manga (Shine vol. 5).

so there shouldn't be anymore trailers then to se if it catches your eye or a scene to share to friends to get to get them interested.

@@puppetstudio4989 Aren't trailers designed to interest you with something that doesn't need explaining or explains itself? Trailers have build up and are specifically chosen, right? From my perspective, a trailer has funny bits and/or cool action shots, mini-exposition: a summary of who they are, is this a fictional Earth/world, maybe a realisation from the MCs when they're at rock bottom and how they move on from that, etc., etc. Chapter 7 has none of that, so I don't think it's a good starting point for Charlie to talk about RWBY

@yourfellowsimp4561 On the contrary, I started watching a lot of anime because of clips I've seen on RU-vid. The truth is it depends on your expectations and taste.

Yes, you totally can lol. That’s why there are movie trailers, AMVs, teaser trailers, etc.

i get what you mean but also as someone thats been watching rwby since the start and has seen this episode in context I still think this show is being severely mismanaged by a dying company and toxic workplace and the result is a badly written product that survives solely on fanservice and exists exclusively to push overpriced merch imo

Eh, the writing could certainly be classified as "terrible" but it does have a lot of fun ideas (shame about the execution tho). I can certainly see how someone would enjoy it, although it's important to mention that enjoying a show doesn't necessarily mean the writing is good.

I have the same feeling, damn finally good to see someone whos realistic with the show but enjoys the best parts of it (few) like myself. It seems that the team cant get the entire show good enough so each volume has one aspect such as the base animation really well done but the tone or awkwardness of story just pull the show back down to mediocrity

Same here honestly. A lot of people just have strong tastes like Charlie and other internet people. The writing is terrible, and plot holes are fucking everywhere. But the ideas are honestly kind of there. I enjoy the creative side characters, the weapons they use, the plot twists, and bonding between characters that they have. Hence, there’s not a lot OF it, but when it does happen, it hits. Long story short, there are definitely times where this show is actually worth watching. It’s just inconsistent.

there's no context that will save it. the dialogue is simply trite. it's like a child's idea of how adults would write teenagers.

It doesn’t matter what the context is, the show is boring as fuck. Everything after volume 3 is just talking heads and that would be fine if the dialogue didn’t suck

unfortunately even the show doesn't give it proper context, shit just happens without the kind of buildup that would justify such moments in a proper story.

@@SomePersonalUploads Ah, yes, because Ruby's depression and self-doubts have had _no_ build up. Have you not watched the past _everything?_ Since Volume 1, Ruby has been trying to live up to the idealised version of her mum in her head; sometimes she gets things right, but as the series goes on and more things are at stake, the more frequently she fails, which pushed her to save more and more people and take bigger risks that have a greater chance of backfiring. Ruby spends the entirety of Volume 9 having every single one of her failures thrown at her with no space in-between, all whilst her friends keep saying "don't worry about it, we'll deal with it later" whenever anyone has a concern. It all culminates in her being physically and mentally abused into taking her own life, and you're telling me that there was no build up to that? You clearly haven't been paying attention to the way Ruby became increasing unsure of herself over the last few Volumes.

They’re not tryin to fix anything Lmfao.

the story in volume 9 is much more consistent and less crappier because rooster teeth isn’t attempting to correctly write 49 different characters XD. they FINALLY get to work on the 4 main characters of the show for once

I mean a lot of fixing would need to happen to fix the mistakes the last 5+ years of rwby have let slip. Animation has gotten better besides fights, but man the awkward pausing in convos and just poorly articulated tone in the volumes has just highlighted how good rwby could have been when we get a 40 second span of good story

@@NagitoVRC unintentionally funny. Since there's 5 main characters in v9, that means that blake and yang only count as one character now that they're joined at the hip, and even then barely.

@@chukyuniqul just the rooster teeth "i cant write a show to save my life" meta

it doesn't matter if it's intentional or not. if you're bad on purpose, you're still bad.

It would be weird for them to change their animation style now and it really doesn’t matter, it’s fine

@@sirpiss1708 it fucking sucks, it’s ugly as hell dude. Everything except the characters looks like babies first 3d animation, and even then that just makes the characters stuck out like a sore thumb because they are in a totally different style.

I can understand the first volume when the budget was $12 and a half used Chipotle gift card. But when they had an entire studio, the only excuse I can think of is the animators being overworked and severely underpaid.

Doesn't _everything_ when you don't have the full context? The Paper Pleasers want to Ascend, to make themselves better and more suited to their purpose. The blonde man, Jaune, has spent about 20 years alone and dealing with the trauma of having to assist a friend in their suicide, and believes that Ascension is just death. He doesn't understand that it's _not,_ that it's a needed part of the Ever After's lifecycle, so he relentlessly spends his time preventing them from Ascending, first by keeping them away from the Tree that does the Ascending, then by keeping them out of danger and stopping their "suicide" attempts. It's _really_ not that edgy; it's just an allegory for someone who's so traumatised by loss that they can't see how stifling their protectiveness is.

@@Jackson-ub1uv bro Im not reading all that but have enough context to know the show died with the og writer.

@@theironmuttonchops5398 Firstly, that's incredibly disrespectful to _everyone._ You don't get to use someone's _death_ as justification for your opinions. Secondly, don't criticise something unless you're willing to put the effort into understanding it first; it's both unfair and a dumb thing to do. Sure, RWBY might not be the most well-written, but if you can't find _anything_ to enjoy about it, then why are you here?

@@Jackson-ub1uv morbid curiosity I guess. Am I supposed to just ignore a train wreck 😄? Also I'm not using his death to justify my opinion, my opinion is that Monty basically carried the studio what's wrong with saying that?

@@theironmuttonchops5398 You're implying that the people on RWBY have completely sullied their dead friend's work. Yes. If you absolutely hate something, then it's up to _you_ to have the self-control to stop watching. You're unwilling to put the effort into reading a simple _comment,_ so why are you still in the fandom?

It definitely had a dip in around V5, but I'MO it's been only up since.

he needs more context lol

Better than RWBY but still fanservice trash

Debatable

@hype Yeah at least RWBY has ideas

​@@ChangedMyNameFinally69multiple ideas that were thrown out to the gutter. I just hope rwby gets a reboot or cancel vol 10 entirely

@@HaloGamer-vk7gl Nah I wanna see how this trashfire ends

I’m in the same position, I’ve been here since day 1 for rwby

how do you get invested in this garbage?

@@mrosskne same way you get invested in anything else

@@summertime_lovin Answer my question or stop replying.

@@mrosskne if I’d replied more than once to you I’d understand however, I’ve only replied once with a simple answer

From a writing perspective, by removing the characters from the stakes at hand you're forcing them to confront other things. So, can't fight the big bad of the show because you're trapped somewhere else and to escape this other place you conveniently need to confront your inner demons. It's also there to juxtapose the dark topics at hand, a land full of whimsy and wonder with people in it going through a lot of mental issues such as imposter syndrome, survivors guilt, depression caused by a myriad of issues. Plus, the whole show has had references to fairy tales since the beginning, this is just more in your face about it.

@@TheJamieellis I’m not saying the idea is bad at all, I like when characters have to deal with there own issues and sometimes are forced to see there issues, infact I enjoyed jaune and his growth a lot, he always had leader issues and when Pyrrha died that totally fucked with him, not to mention Nora getting hurt also messed with him. So him getting the lesson that even as a leader things can still hurt your team or hurt the things you protect and that sometimes that pain is necessary is a great lesson for him, gave me a lot of vibes like “who lives who dies who tells your story” from Hamilton. It just felt like the idea was there but the execution wasn’t pulled through. Like it hardly explained why the void they fell in landed them in a wonderland esc place. Especially since it was told and assumed to simply be a random pocket dimension with no use outside of the wish made. I also know that rwby had roots in fairy tale inspirations I’ve religiously fed on all the dev stuff of this show when season 2 and three came out, I’ve seen this show from beginning to end on multiple occasions and just, some of the writing doesn’t stick, feels a lot of first drafty and it also feels they are very quick to change ideas mid season. Like penny getting the winter maiden powers was an awesome idea, I loved that arc and it made it feel like penny grew into a character, but literally next episode she dies and Wynter takes it, it felt like that was done just ti give the fan community who for a small time thought Wynter was winter because of a name coincidence. I wish the writing had abit more thought into it, or at the very least had more people rereading and proofing. It’s all potential but it doesn’t feel like it’s ironed out and crafted with enough care to really feel like a good narrative.

took nine seasons to establish the basics of the character.

@@TheJamieellis I didn't mind the idea of Alice and Wonderland but I think it was always a risk and they executed it poorly, my main issues were 1 by design it cuts out most of the cast hyper focusing on the 4 mains which isnt bad in itself but is a slight handicap which limits the story, another bigger issue is because it happened in "the ever after" it all feels less real, idgaf about the paper ppl, I didn't need to know about the brothers origin story they were cool enough as it was, and I didnt give a f about the mouse death which they spent like a 3 min scene on. The only tangible change is Neo is out of the story, and I gotta say the whole thing was disappointing, idk I always have thought of Rwby as a fighting show, sure they tell some pretty good stories but first and foremost should be 1v1s of powerful hunters and epic grim monster battles, this is where Rwby shined with epic fights with cool powers and weapons, but in v9 there were like 3 and a halfish fights, Chess fight, Jabawalker fight, ruby at the tea party, and rwby vs cat, not one good 1v1, the best fight being the rwby vs cat but that fight is by far the weakest end of season fight out of all of them, v1-v8 end of season fights were all better imo and the number of fights is probably double or even triple the amount we got in v9

Volume 9 is nowhere _near_ that bad, and is probably even one of the best.

Her character just became worse and worse as the show went on imo.

The fact it took this long to have ruby have some kind emotion development, is sad.

​@@miccheck2754That's because her emotional development happened before the events of the show. In early seasons, Ruby showed all the psychological markers of a child with very high levels of resilience, due to having successfully coped with trauma early in life. The last several seasons have actually emotionally undeveloped her through crappy writing and complete ignorance of the psychology of personality.

It was a reckoning long delayed, but hey, it's here.

KAREN*

As one of those dunkers I agree I do have a love hate relationship with this show lmao

@@spinoyonyx2800 as a fellow dunker i agree, like, is the show bad? yes, do I like it? yes and no, do I enjoy it even if it's bad? fuck yes

@@AussieGamer-jd6qd HELL YEAH

I’ve enjoyed every volume and think it keeps getting better. People who watch it just to hate on it have smooth brains.

no wtf

9 year old manchild* 😂

@@Nexus2126 9 year old child*

It was. You can say the art style wasn't better, but the animation and fight choreography was.

​@@SRFAA choreography for sure goes to Monty and his old team. Animation though, not really. If there's anything RWBY has increased in as seasons have gone on it's production value. Volume 4-9 just have better animation as a natural consequence of time going on

​@@SRFAA just the fights even tho it could be argued it still their but the animation of volumes 1 to 3

They fell of a bridge inside a Relic, and fell into the world of a children’s story. John got sent back in time while there, so he’s like 20-30 years older than the rest of the team. During that time, he got addicted to saving a village of fairy land creatures who experience the same natural disasters every day. When RWBY finally landed on the island, years after John, they distracted him from protecting them. So they managed to die. Honestly explaining this clusterfuck of a show is difficult.

6 is where the writing started to take a nosedive in quality and it only got worse with every volume. Which is not to argue against you enjoying the show. A show doesn't need to be good in order for someone to enjoy it. But just because a show is enjoyable to some doesn't mean the writing is good.

There's nothing the majority crowd hates more than "holdouts" for something they have condemned. Led by a vociferous clique of "critics," they have tried to rub people's faces *hard* in the idea that RWBY is a failure. And they seem to take the idea that some people still like the show *very personally.* Because once the howling mob has spoken and the "critics" have shown you their 50-page PowerPoint presentation, _THERE SHOULD BE NO DOUBT._ Dissent implies that their Opinion Might Be Wrong (having neatly forgotten that *Opinion Is Not Fact* ) And we all know: People Would Rather Die---or Kill---Than Admit That They We're Wrong Online.

@@lilowhitney8614 I'd say Volume 5 was the worst it's ever gotten. 5 was a mess

@@dphalanx7465 It's worth noting that opinions are just that: opinions. I found a channel of someone making hours upon hours of videos criticising RWBY, but at the same time, praising shows like Rings of Power and the Kenobi show, which is fair enough, but you can also find others who despise those shows and who make hours upon hours criticising those shows the RWBY critic liked. It's quite subjective.

trueeeeee

I dunno, I feel like "having plot points about Kool-aid drinking and handing it terribly" isn't gonna get any better even if you watched eight idiots dick around in the woods and random cities for years on end first

@@dr.archaeopteryx5512 it is the literal bare minimum of any review is you have to actually, you know, have watched/read/played what you are reviewing. I can go right ahead and watch the last/current season of anything and criticize its plot for being dumb and confusing. And as i said, as someone who has watched all of it, watching it all probably isn’t going to change his opinion and he accidentally stumbles on some actual criticisms of the show despite not having actually watched all of it. But you know, broken clocks and all that

I agree. It’s like if you were to randomly watch Naruto or Bleach midway through. Of course you’re not gonna understand anything that goes on lmao. You can’t exactly take a clip out of context and call it bad just because it looks bad.

@@vulixxv exactly. Granted, the show is bad. No doubt about it. But you should actually watch something before criticizing. Its why i dont involve myself in matters of criticism fir things like “the big three” anime cause i have not watched them

​@@encyclochameleon6751 I wouldn't call it bad per say just in a situation that you either like it or hate it

5 was alright. It wasn't until 6-8 that things really started to get shoddy.

​@@Axel_Kasai 5 was ass? They were in a house for the entire season.

5 suckes 6 was decent 7 and 8 were decent except for the way they fucked up ironwood

@@Neapolitanicecream1130 Ironwood was the man. One good thing about the later volumes is that it solidified Cinder is irredeemable.

@@TheBunnyrum I'll take them sitting in a house over them being idiots that just make the situation worse lol

No dude it's because no one is asking about HER

She was kind of forced into being a leader, and everyone looked to her for guidance.

It's mostly because of his trauma over having the kill Penny, and he wanted to save something for once so he took up the job of being their protector.

@@richeetah5221 Fair enough, but still... he could just do that protecting Team RWBY or finding something else to protect/save. And the point is that he's not letting the people do what they want. Sure, it might be dark, but... for the most part, they want to ascend--Jaune's just ignoring that to feel better about himself. And again, why is it Penny who was the catalyst to this, when he was (supposedly) closer with Pyrrha? Honestly, it feels like not only do the writers have no idea what they want to do with Jaune, but it feels like when the writers kill off a character, they have next-to-no idea of what that means for the larger story. It's like it's not even done for shock value--just done to fill out a "check-list" the writers have on hand.

@@psionicsknight6651 To be fair, he couldn't really protect Team RWBY when they don't even live in the same timezone anymore. He used the Paper Pleasers to both keep himself sane and to deal with the trauma he had gathered, ignoring their wishes to reincarnate. It was intended to be messed up to show how deteriorated Jaune's mind had become. He does still think of Pyrrha, like when he hesitated against her illusion The Curious Cat made. Penny was one of the many failiures he stewed over while alone in the Ever-After.

Your questions are answered by the context of previous episodes, I assume there's a lot a wikipedia article doesn't cover regarding plot.

yeah, and watch the rest of the show too, because uh, theres so much lore he missed

Charlie's takes are all over the place. Sometimes he has some good ones and then sometimes he's just sat there going "I don't get it". Yes Charlie, it's because you're watching a 3 minute clip from partway through episode 7 of the 9th season of the show. Why exactly do you expect you'll just get it with no additional context for what's been going on? And honestly RWBY has had its ups, and a lot of downs as well. But volume 9 has been largely solid so far. A lot more focused and better paced than a lot of previous seasons. It's really struggled before with spreading itself too thin, trying to work with too many characters and too many plot points in a single season. And they're short episodes too, so a lot of things were inevitably rushed. Narrowing the focus of this season to team RWBY + Jaune and a more straightforward and linear goal has really helped tighten the writing up.

Sadly its become a trend to only watch out of context clips and then proceed to take a dump all over something. And yes, its fucking stupid. Like only reading every tenth page of a book and then going "I don't understand anything and nothing makes sense". Yeah, duh. Idiots.

Doesn’t matter, the show currently sucks, now go jack off watching shitty CW shows.

@@Neapolitanicecream1130 Doesn’t matter, the show currently sucks, now go jack off watching shitty CW shows.

Huh?

It hasn’t gotten better nor it feels like great.

The latest seson literally hyped up the Curious Cat before he got his ass handed to him in one episode by Team RWBY's totally original and not stolen from Sonic Heroes team attack

Not great enough to make RoosterTeeth the money they need apparently. They’re extremely broke.

No it certainly isn't

@@xolotltolox7626okay 👍

@@galanga21890 pretty much, yeah

No it's not. The show can't stay consistent to save its life and the characters suck

@@galanga21890 yr that's accurate

If you have warner brothers backing you and putting your characters in video games then you lose the right to use the were just a web series excuse they absolutely could make RWBY better animated it's just rooster teeth are cheapskates who don't want to spend the extra cash to hire better animators

@@kaidosleftnut5830Or Fox they weren’t bought by Disney and instead by someone else like Verizon.

After RvB Zero I'm gonna have to disagree

"Amazing story" If you want good story, then you're not gonna get it from RWBY. Just a warning dude.

@@rejoicingfakepriest201 If it’s so bad why do people watch it? Genuinely asking. Like from your viewing experience, what do you think is the driving force behind this show.

@@Standard489 I think what drives people to watch it was the plot and world building. But for me, it's always underwhelming when I watch it. When you expected something cool to happen, but then they screwed up with the execution and the scenes fell flat. They often build up to something only for them to not deliver. As for me, it's always the cool choreography and how the characters interact with each other. At least that was the way it used to be. I don't feel like that towards the show anymore.

@@Standard489 *sigh... unfortunately it's the relationships of characters and a whole guessing game of 'will they? won't they?' that happens with every. single. season. Literally like 3 sub-plots based around it during the first season. Which for the first season is what got ppl hooked, apart from the fight choreography and further worldbuilding more or less.

@@rejoicingfakepriest201 Amen to that. Similarly the plot and some scenes always just kinda fall flat for heroic-like acts. Especially when they try to be heroes and save everyone it's just a whole 'oh no no no no' then laugh feeling. It's a bit weird sounding since it's supposed to be all dramatic and despair-like, but when you see a red-head suicidal idiot into weapons try to save everyone and fail once or multiple times differently, it really doesn't feel the same anymore

Clips are meaningless. You have to watch the whole thing. Especially for Season 9 because its an entirley different world.

uh, what?

if youre talking about the shipping wars, could you just fucking not

@@Neapolitanicecream1130 Black Sun was developed over 4 volumes

@@84everfan90 eh, good point but they never really seemed to click, granted neither do blake and yang, but sun just (at least in my perspective) just seems kinda like the gay best friend that everyone has

@@84everfan90 maybe thats just because i have a gay best friend that looks eerily like him though

Being proud of enjoying trash is an odd flex but ok

RWBY stan spotted

Cared enough to comment but whatever, still better than 99% of hardcore RWBY fans

Jobless drain on society spotted

Yeah, the only thing that happened is that... they became angsty teenagers 😏

@@rejoicingfakepriest201 i mean when you look at it that way… 🤯🤯

@@redboi719 Mindblown isn't it? 😂

​@@rejoicingfakepriest201 when your friends are brutally killed cause you messed up is not angsty.

I can name about 5 different characters who have gone through worse off and don't complain like Team RWBY off the top of my head

He is speaking without knowing the context or anything of what has happened till this point.

@@Manu-vm4wb what is there is know of this broken show, nothing but nonsense and terrible plot

@@RoboticKnight0Z You don't seem able to express an opinion that hasn't been regurgitated.

@@Manu-vm4wb and it won’t changed my mind of this shit show, it’ll forever be a terrible show and nothing will change it