The fact that she doesn’t even consider him having his own opinion a possibility and automatically assumes he’s being controlled just shows how little respect she has for him.
She assumes that because that's how she's treated him for his whole life. She's afraid of someone else having the control that she does over his thoughts and decisions with her manipulative behavior, and so when she's called out she goes straight to gaslighting. This woman needs some hard boundaries enforced on her
If they had a healthy relationship, she would’ve taught him the morals and lessons he needed to make good decisions. But she thought he’d never leave her, so she never prepared him. And now she’s scared of another woman having influence over him
@@Lovarei Boundaries? Nah, No Contact because at her age she's set in her ways unless she has a near-death experience, and even then she might not change.
She’s projecting. She knows how she manipulated and controls him and she assumes the fiancé is doing the same. She can’t fathom that he would be making his own independent decisions.
I hate hate hate hate that mom tells her, “are you sure that he’s not just trying to do what you want and it’s not really what he wants?”. That’s so manipulative. Like why don’t we switch that around, mom, are you sure that he’s not trying to do what YOU want and not what HE wants?? The fact that she can’t get it around her head that her son may have a different preference than her is astonishing.
She said something about how it isn’t right for a mother and son to disagree. Like, you’re right! You should support your son and let him make the decision!
Even if he’s just doing what his fiancé wants maybe he wants to raise their kid and he’s compromising on certain things so they have a better time in their own home
What is even more gross about this is her talking like this in front of her grandchild. Kids aren't stupid, they can understand and feel the tension and discourse. The lady is toxic!
Yeah, I agree. For the first few years of my daughters life, her mom and I were emotionally separated. But this whole plan to basically stay together until she grew up so she'd have a one household family. Essentially, we were playing house. And no matter how much of a pretty face we put on, it was toxic and my daughter could tell. So, at a certain point, I realized that whatever was lost by splitting her to two households, it was NOT as bad as teaching her that THIS is how relationships between couples are. Because I was terrified that she would grow up and gravitate towards a toxic dynamic herself, because.. that's how relationships are supposed to be, right? That's what we were teaching her. Also, once me and her mother just fully separated into two separate lives, we actually get along great now! The co parenting is on point. And I feel like seeing mom and dad working as a team and being friends is way more valuable then mom and dad hating each other from a single household.
yes! and i hate that people think kids aren’t actual humans because they can’t speak, they still understand and feel emotions. it’s so crazy some people do stuff like that so comfortably in front of tiny kids, involving them in adult situations that should be handled outside of the kids.
The “I’m still goin to win” triggered tf outta me ngl haha. She says the bride needs to be open minded about her wedding, then spews that garbage. Oooffff I hope she’s playing it up for the show, I really do. 🤣😩😮💨😠
your 4 emojis was my reaction from beginning to end... got so freakin triggered by that comment. at this point she needs common sense smacked back into her
She's not playing it up for the show. I went down a bit of a rabbit hole and looked at their IG posts, and her comments on there suggest she is exactly like how she comes across in the show.
She's beyond manipulative...she is so in love with him its creepy. Every sentence that comes out of her mouth is just manipulation guilt trip power to me etc...crazy
Yeah I was actually surprised. Before he acted so meek and like his moms baby. Seeing him stand up to his mom and be a good parent, I see what Justine sees in him. Now he needs to do that for her too.
@@ColieBear18ometimes when you had such a controlling person in your life, especially a parent, you give up fighting over every little thing they want to control. Plus, you do start to feel guilty about all the things your parents your parents did to you. His mother also can’t seem to believe her good son would disagree with her especially when if he isn’t upfront about everything they want beforehand. Clearly, his wife and kid helped him mature but he needs sone therapy and attitude to stand up to his mom one on one.
"I just don't think it's natural for a son to be against his mother", he's not against you, you're against him, and more importantly, you're against him being happy with someone other than you. These types of parents creep me out and drive me nuts....
I don't understand why she thinks a wedding in Vegas is more "traditional." Typically when people talk about liking "traditional weddings," I thought they meant church weddings with a reception at a fancy hotel or something. I thought Vegas weddings were considered nontraditional and ridden with debauchery. Of course, I see no problem with Vegas weddings, summer camp weddings, church weddings, etc, but I find it weird that her reasoning for being against the venue is because of traditional values.
Yes, and it would be oh-so-satisfying to have someone point out, "So, you like Las Vegas becasue it is Traditional??" Reeeally? Tra-di-tion-al? Not at all becasue we said "non-traditional", right?
JASON NEEDS TO DEFEND HIS FIANCE!!!!! I cannot tell you how frustrating it is to have your partner's parents against you for one no good reason or another and you feel like if you say anything it's just gonna cause tension in your relationship 🤦♀️
I think that’s the idea. I ignored the warning signs and it destroyed part of my life and many years of marriage. I was too young, naive, and didn’t have the self love to see this and dump him. I didn’t ask enough questions dating him so I assumed things about him because he’s a nice guy and very very close to family. It didn’t help the whole time we were dating we lived in another state so I never got a taste of how he’d be with them
The fact that mom is like “I’m still gonna win over this venue” , shows she just wants to be right and be “better” then her daughter in law. It’s just a competition . Nothing else. Her way or no way. It’s not about what’s best for her son or anything… I have people like this in my family and Jesus they are just terrible. Hopefully the couple stick by their choices !
People like this woman have reinforced one of my core values in life, "Blood and water flow the same." You can choose your family, and I don't know who came up the fact that you couldn't.
@@DaiNoShoujoNoYami my step, now adoptive father and his family have consistently been more fair, honest and consistent with me than any of my blood family. I love your quote.
I couldn't marry into this crap. I seriously wouldn't take it. My mom dealt with this from my horrible GMA and we actually cut them off. Sadly we did cut off my so's parents but that was over politics and crap
@@sinisofias right, if she were hit back in the day OR now, all it would’ve done is “proven” to her that she’s the perpetual victim and messed up her already disordered thought process even further🥴 hitting never makes someone go “Oh wow yes I need to fix these things about myself and act differently because I suddenly understand how to do so!”
I'm so glad he finally said something to his mom! It was driving me crazy that she was getting her way with everything and he was letting her walk all over his fiance! YES! Even better I'm glad she finally spoke up for herself! OMG this lady is just too much 🤯
He's actually pretty tactical in not having her explode. He tells her yes to things but there's other motives. Like that red suit. He said yes but only at the reception. He aint walkin down the isle in that mess! And he always says yes but you can hear the BUT! However his mom doesnt she just hears yes and calms down. Man has to play war tactics with his mom to live his life. Bet he can't wait to move!!
@@Shadowdreamer4 my condolences to you sense of freedom. I hope its at least a little better or at least not to this extent... granted any level of that would drive me crazy. Stay strong! 💪🏿💪🏿
"He feels like he needs to defend you" Of course he does....she's his wife. Not you. I swear parents like this are bonkers and shouldn't be a part of your lives.
I'm a mom to a 2 year old and I'm low-key learning new parenting techniques from Ken lol The "toilet treats" are such a good idea, I'm going to try that with my son now.
You could also do a potty chart. A sticker for everytime they go potty. They get excited to pick the stickers. Then at the end of a successful week they can pick a small reward from a treasure chest. Or a potty station. Some books next to the potty to get them comfortable sitting on it.
I'm sorry, but there are boundaries that grandparents and other family members need to respect when it comes to grandchildren/nieces and nephews. You're not the parent. Don't disrespect the parents in front of their own children. My sister stopped talking to my parents and they weren't allowed to see their grandchildren for a bit because boundaries weren't being respected.
@@tealablu3759 I feel like the older generation feel like their entitled to see family no matter how they treat you. "You're my blood" cool, but you're toxic, soooo....
@@DeeKate agreed. I couldn’t imagine doing it to my family, but they aren’t so terrible. Potentially with my dad’s temper, but even then I know he really cares
I'm about to hafta do that myself and it's gonna be hard because I live 200yds away from them. However though they are nothing like this woman on this show here, nowhere near that.
My paternal grandfather has been horrible to my mother since day one, and has in many ways, made her marriage (of 31 years) miserable. Even when I was a little child I can remember my mother telling me to not make her same mistake-- "marrying a man whose parents don't respect you." Some people have no idea how lucky they are to find a partner that will endure their toxic parents to be with them. Cause there are a lot more of us who would just walk out.
this happened with my gf. her dad tried to break us up. we left. then he was furious with trying to figure out why he wasn't apart of our lives. we both have no idea why toxic people need to try and control or make others miserable...and i guess we won't find out since we don't invite him no where EVER and allow him to be miserable and alone *shrug*
I agree. Idk what's with parents thinking they have such a strong say when it comes to their children's relationship. If they're teens, that's understandable, but if they're adults, leave them alone, they can make their own choices. My ex's parents used to nitpick at every tiny flaw I have and try to get my ex to leave me cuz, as their own words, "he can do better." I finally left him cuz he was as toxic as his parents. And with my current bf, his mum tried to blame the smallest things on me, mostly based on assumptions before knowing the full story. Now my bf cut contact with his mum. If my bf's mum was the same as my ex's, I wouldn't have tolerated that shit for the second time, and will have to sadly give him an ultimatum. As much as I love my bf, idk how much toxicity I can handle after the shit I went through for my ex
My fiance's mom doesn't like me but my mom loves my fiance. So my mom roots for his success his mom roots for my failure. I told him the moment our kids leave the nest I am cutting ties. My daughter has told her to be nice to me. She's 7. You know she's extra when a 6 year old is like chill grandma.
The wife-to-be has the patience of a saint, she's definitely a keeper! If that was me, I would have had some serious choice words for my mother-in-law. The abuse and manipulation is unreal. How she can't get it though her thick skull that this is NOT her wedding and the child is NOT her child and she has NO say in either of the matters is beyond me. She's an entitled, spoiled brat who's never had anyone tell her no and she needs to grow up.
She is not being patient. She finds it extremely difficult to speak from her mind and to be assertive. You can tell that she feels a lot of stress and anxiety during that talk with mother. She probably experienced narcissistic abuse from her parent(s), otherwise she wouldn't be able to stand this mother
@@karaczka Just going to add the possibility of past abusive relationship. Agree with you because my mom has the same body language when around people like that.
her husband needs to put his mom in her place its not this womans responsibility to come in and deal with this bitchy mom. i hope she leaves his ass and finds a nice sugar daddy
This mother has issues she really needs to seek help, let your son live his own life with his wife and kid and just be a normal grandma. She has an obsession with her son. And the wife is such a saint and has more patience then I have in my entire body.
I absolutely love how she’s like “...well yeah...but me....ignore your wife and daughter...it should just be me” and it’s like no hun, that is your grown adult son. He has a family. It isn’t about you. It’s about him and hat is best for his family.
Right?! I would do anything in my power for my children to keep their families together. Especially if its healthy, as theirs seems to be, aside from her BS. Its really really messed up. I think once my children have families I would step aside as much as needed for my children. If I wasn't quite as invited as before I'd still reach out and support but as parents you have to prepare to take the back burner in your children's lives at some point.
She doesn’t want a son she wants an Oedipus. She’s acting like she’s a part of their relationship and should have a say in it. Chill lady, this is just uncomfortable
There needs to be a words for the reverse for this reason. A real word, not a term like ‘Karen’ or ‘chad’. Oedipus and Electra complexes are what it’s called when kids have sexual feelings for their own parents, but what about when the parents have those desires for their kids?
I have heard of something called a Jocasta complex where a mother has sexual feelings towards her son. There is also something called covert incest/emotional incest where a parent relies on their child too much for emotional support and then gets extremely jealous or territorial when that child has other relationships or gets married. Those just aren’t really as talked about
It's pretty weird that it's named that, when in the story Oedipus ran away from home upon learning of the prophecy that he would "kill his father and marry his mother" to avoid it (not knowing he was adopted), and when it came to be and both he and his birth mother learned the truth they were so horrified that she killed herself and he blinded and exiled himself to be a vagabond.
THATS HIS NAME!! I kept hearing the same thing but I could not for the life of me figure out his name! But yeah the "Unacceptable!" is so incredibly loud in her face 😆
People like her are the reason I don't let anyone do anything for me, help me or nothing. I'll be damned if someone is going to hold that shit over my head like that.
The mom is all around awful but to top it off, the “suggestions” she’s made for the wedding have just been so tacky. Her taste is terrible to be honest.
To be fair, I did like the suite she picked out initially for her son to wear at the wedding, but at the end of the day it’s NOT. HER. WEDDING. If the bride and groom don’t like it, STOP pushing it!!
She's the type of mum who gets invited to thanksgiving and brings her own turkey because her son likes her cooking more and then refuses to let them serve the turkey they prepared lol.
My mother in law brings weird food from her crazy diet she wants her baby to follow and the plates to eat it on to our house. Of course not asking me or my husband checking with me if it’s ok for her to come. She did this all because I didn’t know what I was feeling was a confused and anxious due to nit understanding how ti deal with an enmeshed mother and son, I didn’t know what this was because they are nice people, but ask for some space or set a boundary in the house or try to negotiate these things on your own as a wife , you’ll forever by the bad guy. Either way, if he changes and be aimed at better husband in that area, she’ll blame the wife. She’ll be blamed if she requests boundaries and blamed if her husband starts doing it for the first time when he got married, the mother will send the troops. She’ll get even worse.
When somebody gets something for my kid that we’ve already said no to, we toss it in the trash right in front of the person who got it. You’re either gonna respect our decisions as parents or you won’t be involved at all
There's no way I'd marry into that family, no matter how much I loved him. The manipulation and disrespect won't end; it'll just get worse. There's no substitute for living a peaceful life, and if I have to choose between love and peace, I'll pick peace every time.
Yeah i'd have told him that he needs to either check his mother or disown her, that type of manipulation is not to be tolerated. And really them having a kid means that she is tied to Jason, not his mother no matter how overbearing and unbearable the woman is. That woman shouldn't be anywhere near their daughter either imo. Once she gets old enough to disagree with grandma and not be an easy person to manipulate and control, she will start treating the granddaughter like shit too.
Then you don’t really love the person then. It’s easy to cut someone off. When you marry someone your taking in all their problems. Internal and external.
@@flameron1 Problems and toxicity are two completely different things I'd leave him immediately he doesn't do anything to help the situations his mom starts that's not a good quality in a husband it isn't about how much you love them sometimes it's about self love he never defends her she's constantly being brushed aside 100% not okay
I respect the son a lot for picking his wife’s side on these interactions. He’s not folding or feeding into his moms obsessive and controlling tendencies, and sticks up for himself and his family’s needs. I see mama’s boy syndrome way too much these days where they don’t have the spine to call out their moms toxic behaviors and just let them run rampant on their loved ones in the process. It’s nice to see a solid husband like this.
The mom needs to realise too that weddings aren't cheap. Her venue ideas could be costing twice, maybe three times as much as what the bride and groom have in mind. I hate when people do that...they expect so much (aka overesteemed) and then once they're not happy with the outcome, rumour mills start popping up and other drama.
@@sayonara9633 *irresponsible, also that "one day" is an incredibly special day for those who decide to spend their savings on it. don't be rude and keep your ignorant comments to yourself.
If she wants to get something for her granddaughter, why doesn't she just sneak one of the other things the kid liked for like... a gift later on for a special surprise, birthday, Christmas, etc? They're not telling her what she can and can't purchase, tbh. She is being told, please do not ruin this teaching experience.
Agreed. I would be furious if my MIL did this. To me it gave off the vibes that she sees her granddaughter as her child and not her son’s and his fiancé.
I feel like the only reason she even wants to buy her granddaughter a gift is because her parents bought her a gift. She’s trying to win the child over. This woman is so codependent it’s ridiculous.
@@andrenax also completely disrespecting their boundaries as parents… all because she’s “grandma”. she needs to realize that it is a privilege to be around her granddaughter, not a right, and she should be respecting them and their decisions as parents because it’s not her child! I’m amazed that his fiancé has the strength to put up with all of this 😬
In daughter-in-law/mother-in-law conflicts, it's really supposed to be the husband to be handling these things, not the daughter in law. Like Ken said, he really has a small presence. I'm glad he stood up a little at the toy store, but he should be having the sit down with her, not his fiancee.
I think it’s just the “I don’t want to hurt my mom or my fiancé so I’m gonna get involved as little as possible”. I truly believe he does care, or else he wouldn’t have stood up to her at the toy store.
@@itsGreyHat yeah I get that perspective. That's definitely what it is. But most family therapists would agree in this scenario the burden is on him to sit his mom down about this because he's creating a new family with his wife, and his wife and daughter now take precedence over his mom in some scenarios. (obv not like if mom got sick and needed care, or things like that. This petty kind of stuff his wife and daughter matter more) it's a tough situation for him to be in but realistically this should be sorted out in a counselors office not on national tv lol
That wife is beyond patient. Thank god I had amazing in-laws and they treated me like their own. I was actually closer to my in-laws than my own parents. Unfortunately we lost both of them within a year this past year. I definitely miss them!
This was a little triggering tbh. My grandfather (who raised me) acted just like that. Also threatened to change the will so that I don't get my grandmother's house when he dies because I wasn't talking as much one day, threatened to burn it all down. So, nobody can have it. Threatened to kill himself because I went to go visit my boyfriend's mom. I left for a week because I couldn't take it anymore. When I came back, he threatened to kick me out. So, I moved out. Best decision I ever made. Now, I'm able to stand up for myself.
This kind of abuse can stay with you forever. It's despicable behaviour. You're so much better off without him. So proud of you for not putting up with it anymore. It takes a strong person to do that!
His mom is consistently speaking as though her son has no autonomy. No free will, no want to make a decision OF HIS OWN. Maybe he's not "siding" with his fiancee, maybe they're just on the same side! She can't fathom that he'd make a decision of his own, it's bizarre..
To be fair. Even when she was talking ABOUT him in the toy store with him sitting right there as though he didn't exist, he said nothing. He chose not to exist or have an opinion. He is wishy washy at best, thus far. Yes, he 'stood up' to her once in the toy store....if you call it that. It shouldn't have been the fiance having this one on one. It should have been him.
Holy CRAP I wish her son would stand up to her. That poor woman is going to marry him (assuming she's still willing to) and has that stress with psycho mom...man, this is just so aggravating lol. Makes me REALLY appreciate my easygoing parents.
Ken's haunted elmo story reminds me of the time my dad put our LOTR Eye of Sauron toy in the cupboard because it was starting to freak us kids out. Now, dad was always the last one to go to bed, usually around midnight. So that night, the house is dark and quiet, and he's just getting ready to turn in. He goes to double check that the back door is locked as he always does, and he passes by the cupboard. We assume that the motion-activated toy saw his shadow pass under the door, because out of the dead quiet, dad suddenly hears a harsh, ghostly voice whisper from behind him, " _I SEE YOU_ "
And THIS is how grandparents get cut off. Let them be parents and listen to what they say. I would’ve flipped out a long time ago. And as someone that lives in Vegas, the LAST place you want to get married is on the strip. It is disgusting.
The toy thing is so insidious in the long run. The Grandma can give a toy at a different time. My uncle used to always get me the coolest gift on Christmas of the whole family when I was a little one, and I know that WAS the appropriate time to give a cool gift, but the feeling in my head of “ ok Mom and Dads gift…. I WANT to get Uncles gift” was definitely there over the years. Had he interjected himself with awesome gifts when my parents were trying to reward me for being good, it WOULD FOR SURE have spoiled me.
That mother is really manipulative. Her son should just boot her out of his life cause she's only gonna be harmful for the wellbeing of not only themselves and their relationship but also for their child. How do we know she's not going to try manipulating their child too?
She's already starting, insisting that she buy their child a toy, talking directly to the child about it in an attempt to get them excited about it so they can't say no, because then she'll be excited and it would suck to disappoint her. Its gross.
@@HumbleDial Exactly. People like her only destroy families with all their lies and manipulation. They turn family against each other to suit their own needs and in the end when family are no longer able to trust each other because they've been manipulated and lied to for so long all relationships break down and they end up resenting each other. Referring to these sorts of people as cancer really is accurate. It's better to cut out and lose a cancer ridden organ to save the rest of the body than let it destroy the whole body. These people's lies and manipulation will only spread the cancer and eat away at the relationships of the family till the whole thing breaks apart and dies
Every accusation she makes is exactly what the wife should be saying to her. Like okay lady, say that in a mirror. How disrespectful to her son's manhood and parenthood. So manipulative.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This woman is a nightmare to watch, and I’m sure she’s much worse in person. If they want to have a happy marriage, they need to break the mother off immediately. At least limit her visits to holidays and birthdays or she will be over their shoulders every chance she gets.
You guys should react to this show called Don’t Tell The Bride where the groom gets a certain amount of money for the wedding (choosing the bride’s dress, venue, food, etc.) while the bride is clueless. It’s funny, but also gets intense sometimes kind of like this show.
Mom: "he can't tell me who to treat my grandchild." Nah lady, that's exactly what they should be doing. I have to say I'm pretty impressed that the son is standing up to the mom at all. His partner did change him...for the better.
My mom is borderline that too. And her sisters (my aunts) think I'm super entitled for not letting my mom be super involved with everything and moving 4 hours away. Holidays are very weird sometimes I totally hear you family can be a total wreck.
I don't have a mother in law but my mom respects my parenting, she doesn't buy anything for my kids without telling me, be it sweets or toys, she always checks if it's ok. She even holds up punishment I put in place for kids when we are around them and I love that
Can we talk about how red this lady's face gets everytime she talks to the fiance - at the rate she's going she just might have an aneurysm if the couple flat out tells her no her ideas will not ever be considered and actually set strict boundaries. Which honestly they sorta need to because she's never going to learn.
I've worked in retail for a long time and one of the many irritations that comes with it is when a grandparent goes over the parents head, disregards what they've said and the rules they've laid out, and buys the grandkid something. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a kid acting up, the parents actually try to parent (which seems rare nowadays) and tell them they aren't getting anything, and the grandparents step in and buy them something anyways! You're teaching that child 1) they don't need to listen to their parents and 2) they don't need to act properly because they'll get rewarded one way or another. Grandparents, DON'T OVERSTEP! Only the parents get to make choices in regards to their children. You do not. Amazing how some fully grown adults refuse to act like it...
My mum is like this even down to trying to split my husband and myself up multiple times. I went through with her being an alcoholic, being mentally, emotionally and verbally abusive towards me from a teenager I'm now 40, it went on into my thirties. My husband witnessed a lot of it and helped me get stronger and stand up for myself. In the end I had to disown her and my younger brother too who became an alcoholic and took after our mum. I don't know how people can stay with someone who isn't willing to stand up to their parents or start the change and get stronger. How do these people have the patience to put up with this crap, I often ask my husband that very question.
This woman is insane. He needs to sort his crap out. He's already punching above his weight, he should cop on before he ends up sad and alone. Sorry, his psychotic mother would never leave him alone. There's some seriously disturbing things to unpack here and his Fiancé has been nothing but patient, kind and way more inclusive than she has to be. Idiots.
I just got to say. The future daughter in law is so sweet, mature, and so calm regarding this situation regardless of Jason's mother being very vile, accusatory and very dismissive of everyone else's feelings. Jason does get points for being balanced as well despite the circumstances, but overall. He's very lucky to have her as his partner.
My mom is like this but I’m proud of her because one day, while we were chilling on the couch, she told me how she remembered being 22 once and how she had her own independence and then she acknowledged that she is a little bit of an obstacle in my life sometimes. I think moms like this just live in a fantasy in where their children are forever a dumb baby. I went along with it for 22 years because I couldn’t comprehend how fighting with my mom would lead to any positive result but now I see it as helping/evolving our relationship. It’s still hard tho
This is how my mother-in-law used to be until I stopped coming around and I had a baby, my husband stands up for me and when I stopped coming around and they stopped seeing less of him they realized when they cross those boundaries there are consequences. Actions = consequences I've never stopped my husband from having a relationship with his parents but I won't be openly disrespected.
Obviously grandma is not ready to hear "no" herself yet. They could have come to a compromise about the toy like storing grandma's special present for a later reward, etc. But she's not even willing to do *that*. Instead of disagreeing but being understood, or compromising and everyone is happy - when grandma doesn't get what she wants, everyone needs to suffer 🙃
Why should the parents comprise with someone who isn't respecting their boundaries and parenting? They definitely shouldn't give her an inch because she'll take a mile. The hard nos are the only way to get her to back down... trust me I've dealt with a very pushy and entitled mother-in-law who has backed off immensely because I don't just do what she wants which inspired by partner to stand up for himself more.
If the son spends all of his time justifying and defending his fiance it's because mom spends all of their time together criticizing and judging the fiance.
Applause to the bride for speaking up calmly and respectfully because not too many would. Nothing she says or does means anything to the Mom. It's clear Mom doesn't understand boundaries and manipulates everyone while believing she is the victim. What's worse is the son is so oblivious or used to what she's doing that I'm afraid he will never step up for his wife which will create major tension for his family.
I have no problem cutting people out of my life. people need to remember you are allowed to kick family out of your life, do that's best for you. If my parent was trying to be. . . "Over giving?" To my kids. I'd make it a treat to go visit grandma. Even if grandma knows where I live you can lock out grandma and call the police if they break in. A boundary is a boundary and they need to be respected.
You guys should do a crazy mom/parent TLC tier list. Between 90 day fiancé, Gypsy weddings, and this show you’d have more than enough crazy to go around!
I have an aunt that doesn't respect my boundaries just like this mom. She'll never say "I love you" or "I miss you" but she'll guilt trip me and pull the "remember how much I did for you when I raised you" (like I owe something???) Anyway, there's no getting through to her because everything is all about her. Narcissistic personality disorder in my aunts case. It doesn't get better.
I feel bad for him. His mother is constantly forcing him to be caught in the middle. Shes isolating him and manipulating him in a way that I feel like warrants them to cut her out of their lives at least for a while. She has to face the consequences of her actions and what shes doing is harmful for everyone involved.
No. The WIFE is stuck in the middle. The husband needs to tell his mom to respect his choices and the mother of his child etc. He's the only one who can set up that boundary.
@@joywolf83 oh it absolutely is his job to set that boundary. But if his mother has always been this way, which I believe she has, I find it hard to believe that he would have such an easy time telling her no. And her constant pushing against his wife is forcing him into a position between him and his wife's wishes and his mothers wishes. Saying no is hard to do when you've never had the opportunity to which is a by product of her brand of manipulation. Yes, it is his boundary to set, but shes still the problem in this situation. Shes forced this "it's your wife or me" mentality which is why I say hes forced into the middle. (Just my opinion but I totally see what you're saying)
I am legitimately having flashbacks to when my now-husband and I were dating and my now MIL really didn’t respect our boundaries. The one event that still gives me extreme anxiety about seeing her to this day is when it was Thanksgiving and she went off on us because we spent Thanksgiving with my family, even though we told her (and she refused to accept) that we’re doing every other holiday with our families until we have a family of our own. To keep the story short, she ended up screaming at both of us because we didn’t show up at her house. We’re better now, but it’s only been about 3 years since that incident. I’m still on edge because of it. TLDR: Making boundaries is worth it and it’s not just for work, friends, and SO’s, but for family as well. Enforce those boundaries. Be consistent.
This is so hard to watch... I want to see grandma go DOWN already and suffer some consequences for her horrid and manipulative actions. They're too nice to her! Never mind that the fiance is dealing with her monster of a mother in law instead of the son. If I was the fiancée I'd be having big second thoughts about the marriage.
My god, I’d just abandon the wedding and elope to get it over and done with. Without all the stress and drama of planning it’d probably be more enjoyable
