Gordon would have taken Christina's plate, put it in front of Joan and quietly tell her: "You're serving a child raw meat..." Then he would slap the meat in Joan's face and yell: "IT'S RAW!!!" and then proceed to mentally scar Joan for the rest of her life.
I don’t remember that scene, I have to watch it again. I wonder if Christina referred to the steak in the book or if it was only brought up in the film.
@@HM-xi5zi Yes, she referred to it in the book! And yes when she comes home from school her mom takes her to that fancy restaurant shown earlier in the film. The waiter compliments Christina's hat, and her mom accuses her of "flirting" when she says thank you to the waiter. As passive punishment, she orders them both two rare steaks and Christina knows she can't "correct her"/order for herself.
The food on the plate reflects what Christina writes in her book. She says that the meat portion always greatly outsized all the other food on the plate because Joan once noticed how she would swallow a vegetable portion along with a meat portion so as to hide the taste of the raw meat. After that, poor Christina always ran out of vegetables while still having to deal with half of the meat portion.
@@SamanthaStevenson76 Poor Christina had an unstable mother who gave her no security and controlled and punished her with every method she could think of.
In the book, Christina writes that when Joan was a little girl, her mother served what looked like mashed potatoes on the table. Joan took a huge portion, and her mother warned that whatever she took, she would have to eat all of it. Joan laughed, and said yes. Well, the mashed potatoes turned out to be parsnips, and Joan was forced to eat the entire portion. Looks like the apple does not fall very far from the tree.
Based on what I've read, many baby boomers could relate to this scene. From being forced to stay at the table for hours to having it served at each subsequent meal until they did eat it.
Joan, despite her Oscar winning fame, was even jealous of Christina's acting career. She substituted for an ailing Christina in the soap opera Secret Storm, playing a 28 year old character even though she was 60. She threw a fit when Christina landed a guest role in Marcus Welby, MD because Joan had been trying to get on that show for years. And in the TV anthology series The Sixth Sense, not long after Christina landed a guest role in that show, sure enough, not long afterward, there was Joan appearing in an episode.
You don't even know if what Christina writes is true. Actually look up the red juice in meat it's not blood. It really does have a lot of good value. There's a lot of information on it
@theodorefrazier9473As long as you cook the outside of a steak or roast, it’s perfectly safe to eat because that’s the only place that Ecoli could be present. It’s ground beef that you’re risking it because that Ecoli could even be in the center of the meat. I eat my burgers medium rare and not once have gotten sick.
@@k.robertrichardson6779 I was comparing 1950s medical practices. You do know 1950s docs would throw cigarettes and everyone right? They also got July Garland addicted to barbiturates and speed.
The maid was such a suck-up, though she did save Christina's life when Joan was strangling her. Carol Ann (the maid in this movie) is so different from the indomitable Mamacita in Feud.
In the movie "Whatever Happened To Baby Jane", there is a scene where Blanche (Joan) is being starved by Jane (Bette Davis). When Jane is out of the house, Blanche sneaks into her bedroom, finds a box of chocolates, and begins to eagerly consume them. Joan demanded that the crew put in CUBES OF RARE MEAT to pose as chocolates! I understand that she was concerned about calories, but, damn, she could have asked that they put pieces of fruit instead. She really loved her rare meat!
@@pyromaniac709 Well, it made her son Christopher throw up. One time, she caught him eating a second chocolate from a box after she gave him permission to eat only one. She then forced him to eat the entire box, and he vomited it all back up as a result.
Exactly how my mom was when I was little she forced me to eat what she cooked even if that food was expired or if I didn’t like it my childhood was a nightmare and my relationship with my mother too
True story, according to Natalie Schaefer (Mrs. Howell from "Gilligan's Island"). Joan once told her how Christopher, Christina's brother, asked Joan if he could have a piece of candy from a box of chocolates. She told him he could have only one, but when she caught him sneaking another, she made him eat the entire box. He then vomited the chocolates back up. Joan proudly told Natalie how he would never do that again. 😵
I have seen that interview on RU-vid. That is child cruelty, forcing a child to do something that would make them physically sick. That story leads me more to believe Christina's story: 'Mommie Dearest'. And in the series 'The Will' on Joan Crawford, they did mention that Christopher was the problem child when he was a teenager, and that cruelty to him could be part of the reason.
The actress Myrna Loy, who once worked in some production with Christina, claimed that the latter was very difficult and stubborn, and ended up getting fired. Whatever the case, I still believe Christina's account of Joan. I think a lot of that tenacity came from her horrible childhood days. Her stubbornness certainly won out here in that Joan finally caved in with respect to the meat.
She seemed like a difficult defiant child, and Joan's mental disorder didn't help because she didn't have the love nor patience to deal with problematic children. Her twins loved her though, I bet they were more agreeable.
I understood this scene too... That was me and the person that raised me ALL DAY LONG. People thought back then making you eat what you don't like was healthy. I say it was torture! I made sure I broke that habit with my children. That meat is probably what made her health go bad after she had those pains Later Yeah one day I sat from breakfast to dinner time because I hated oatmeal. Lol.... Sometimes I got to go in the corners forever because I hated Pig feet. Or anything like that. Yes it was a contest. Lol
So, she tries to force Christina to eat rare meat because of the nutritional benefits, but punishes her by starving her for 2 days because she didn't eat it. Talk about defeating the purpose! 🤦
@@EjPwned That is not what Christina said. She admitted that he suffered even more abuse because Joan hated males as a result of all her romantic rejections.
If the props in this scene hold true, I notice that Joan and the boy did not come close to finishing their own meals. This clearly was a case of Joan singling out Christina.
That's because in cluster B "the issue is never the issue". The issue isn't Christina her eating, it's a power game from Joan to control Christina by whichever way she can think of. Breaking her spirit.
I just ❤ Christina as a child!!! Her Will was just stronger than her mothers and Joan lived a fanatasy live. I believe 100% Christina her story and if you don’t you are dumb and old-fashioned….
I wouldn't even feed raw meat to my own children if they preferred medium rare than that school long as it's been cooked but being your child a straight-up Ross state that seems disgusting
This was during wartime. Food was rationed at the time. The book mentioned that Joan got steak on the black market. The book also mentioned that only parts of the house were using electricity. I can see why Joan didn't want her to waste her food. I can also see how a child can over exaggerate this scene.
I think Joan should have allowed Christina's meat to be cooked of a little bit longer because not everybody likes to eat a rare steak Some of us only like medium Rare.
Back in the day on at least one occasion, if I didn't finish a meal it was put back in the refrigerator & reheated for the next meal until I ate it. Mostly it was due to my parents having been raised during the Great Depression when food was not to be wasted - but then raw meat was never served by my Mom.
Christina's glare years later when she gets the steak again and Christina gives Joan that evil glare of what happened to her when she was younger*** This is child abuse**** I hate Joan Crawford and what she did to those children and never left them anything in her will what an evil woman she was.
claims have never been sourced, everyone takes one side of the story and runs with it. How come no other siblings have called joan out or taken christinas side?
@@michaellowry6924 Thank you. For us, eating raw meat can hurt us. But for tigers, lions, cats, crocodiles, and alligators, eating raw meat is healthy.
So, after Joan left, why didn't Christina find some place outside to dump the food where Joan would never locate it, and leave the dish by her bed to make it look as if she ate the meal?
considering the popular ketogenic diets today, that was actually quite a healthy plate and rare steak has less free radicals as only the outside surface of a healthy cut of meat is the risky part that needs to be seared to kill of the bacteria. But, the mindset back in those days was that anything well-done or burnt like burnt toast was considered unhealthy and may cause cancer.
It doesn't matter.... No one should be forced to eat meat that raw if they don't feel like it. It kills their appetite for ever... The poor kid didn't want to waste the food... She just wanted it to be more cooked.
You hear crickets in the background at night and realize the windows were open. No air conditioning in that luxury home! But of course it was the 1940’s.
If Christina wrote that book today, and Joan would have died in 2023 I think Joan would get cancelled right away. Everyone would believe every word Christina wrote in that book. By the way, I believe the book was alright but the movie was not. Although Faye Dunaway delivered a fantastic performance!
Watching the movie over now to me yes eating rare meat isn't good, but Christina throughout the film was just heardheaded an plain out had attitude, so certainly an Adult would address that, but acting as Joan did was unnecessary, and extremely over the top.
