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Moneyball - That's My Offer: John (Arliss Howard) offers Billy (Brad Pitt) a job as GM of the Boston Red Sox.
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Billy Beane (Brad Pitt), general manager of the Oakland A's, one day has an epiphany: Baseball's conventional wisdom is all wrong. Faced with a tight budget, Beane must reinvent his team by outsmarting the richer ball clubs. Joining forces with Ivy League graduate Peter Brand (Jonah Hill), Beane prepares to challenge old-school traditions. He recruits bargain-bin players whom the scouts have labeled as flawed, but have game-winning potential. Based on the book by Michael Lewis.
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Cast: Arliss Howard, Brad Pitt
Screenwriter: Aaron Sorkin, Steven Zaillian
Director: Bennett Miller
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@sparkymahoney4343
@sparkymahoney4343 4 года назад
"The first guy through the wall, he always gets bloodied." Spot on.
@sharkracer
@sharkracer 4 года назад
Yeah, but you rarely know the name of the second guy.
@cllnanderson9
@cllnanderson9 4 года назад
Nice profile pic
@junlee6663
@junlee6663 4 года назад
It’s not even true.
@elvis316
@elvis316 4 года назад
RuPaul comes to mind.
@chriscrowninshield4623
@chriscrowninshield4623 3 года назад
@@junlee6663 it's absolutely true, but ok
@theevilascotcompany9255
@theevilascotcompany9255 4 года назад
I like how natural this scene is, like we're just eavesdropping in a real business meeting.
@shaunwhelan17
@shaunwhelan17 4 года назад
so true
@andrewcassese3283
@andrewcassese3283 4 года назад
Both of the team owners in this movie deliver stand-out performances in a movie packed with great performances.
@russellbenson7055
@russellbenson7055 4 года назад
Thomas Well put. I agree.
@andrewcassese3283
@andrewcassese3283 4 года назад
@@russellbenson7055 I just dug around and discovered that the A's owner Stephen Schott is played by Robert Kotick who is the CEO of Blizzard Entertainment. No wonder he's so authentic, he's not an actor!
@luvlgs1
@luvlgs1 4 года назад
the fact that it's quiet too, you have to lean in to hear what they're saying, ...
@strider1589
@strider1589 4 года назад
Best part is when he slides it to Jonah Hill similarly and he responds "congratulations.....that makes you the highest paid general manager in the history of sports."
@dlatua
@dlatua 3 года назад
go sports
@x808drifter
@x808drifter 2 года назад
@@dlatua It sounds weird but there wasn’t really a better way to say it. He wasn’t offered the highest GM salary in the MLB or USA professional sports. He was literally offered so much money it would have made him the highest paid GM in the world.
@sgt.thundercok4704
@sgt.thundercok4704 Год назад
And he responds so quickly, which is perfect for his character. That he has 100% locked in his head the highest paid GM salaries across all professional sports. Or at least the few that would typically have the highest GM salaries. MLB, NFL, NBA.
@jonathancracolici536
@jonathancracolici536 7 месяцев назад
@@sgt.thundercok4704 I would expect it to be soccer, their yearly budgets are just mental. Pep is paid like $24M/yr. Belichick is only $7.5M/yr
@BaldwinVoice
@BaldwinVoice 2 года назад
"For $41 million, you built a playoff team. You lost Damon, Giambi, Isringhausen, Pena...and you won more games without them then you did with them. You won the exact same number of games that the Yankees won, and the Yankees spent $1.4 million per win; you paid $268,000." It is truly amazing what Billy pulled off.
@biggt0820
@biggt0820 2 года назад
Those numbers don't add up by the way. The 02 A's won 103 games. With a payroll of $41M, that comes out to $398K per win. If they had only paid $268K per win, they'd have ended up with 153 wins or a only had a payroll of $27.6M
@xKillZone99
@xKillZone99 2 года назад
they lost in the playoffs to a team with smaller budget than themselves, Billy has had little success as a gm overall and his analytics hurt baseball more than it helped the game.
@nicksander8027
@nicksander8027 2 года назад
@@xKillZone99 So you are one of the dinasaurs
@xKillZone99
@xKillZone99 2 года назад
@@nicksander8027 1. please learn to spell and 2. you assume I'm old cause I remember what actually happened with 2002 A's? lol my God that was embarrassing to read
@mikoajtokar5846
@mikoajtokar5846 2 года назад
@@xKillZone99 Ok boomer
@bobosputnik
@bobosputnik 4 года назад
Arliss Howard owns this scene. Props to Brad Pitt for listening and letting a fellow actor deliver the goods. Just great stuff.
@JohnBonini
@JohnBonini 4 года назад
I agree though I miss not hearing Brad Pitt's earlier line, "Get her a bowling ball for all I care."
@mavioz
@mavioz 4 года назад
Nice try Arliss
@TommyRibs
@TommyRibs 4 года назад
He has always been a Gem. For Decades.
@zataha3
@zataha3 4 года назад
I mean that how the scene was written I don't think it had anything to do with brad
@johnfarella7964
@johnfarella7964 3 года назад
Bingo! Arliss was perfection.
@steveclapper5424
@steveclapper5424 3 года назад
This is seriously one of Brad's greatest roles.
@theonewhoknocks96
@theonewhoknocks96 3 года назад
2011 was a terrific year for him between this and The Tree of Life. Two of his best and most down-to-earth performances.
@d4t4wx
@d4t4wx 2 года назад
I think the Pikie roll in lock stock and two smoking barrels was his best.
@vanguardguardian5876
@vanguardguardian5876 2 года назад
He also performed brilliantly in TROY
@stevelibby6852
@stevelibby6852 3 месяца назад
Tall statement. It's very good. It's up there.
@pauljuliano6676
@pauljuliano6676 4 года назад
The deal Henry offered was for 5 years 12.5m which would of made Billy the highest paid GM ever.
@calisongbird
@calisongbird 4 года назад
Paul Juliano *would’ve
@viksaggu9085
@viksaggu9085 4 года назад
Ya the next scene in his office Pete says that
@syberdieforlove
@syberdieforlove 4 года назад
The correct number is $12.5 million over five years by the way. :) A quick google search will tell you that.
@jqyhlmnp
@jqyhlmnp 4 года назад
Syber Salvatore ok Amy Schumer
@theendlesswanderl8149
@theendlesswanderl8149 4 года назад
you take that and your set for life
@cmscms123456
@cmscms123456 4 года назад
When I die, I want the Oakland A's to be my pallbearers, so they can let me down one last time.
@aaronyayger
@aaronyayger 4 года назад
@Alex Oh no, he's told a joke thats been told before, what a horrible person! Grow up, dude.
@casamir1
@casamir1 3 года назад
LOL
@pd9971
@pd9971 3 года назад
There's a new one what's next Knock knock, who's there?
@ianschroth6575
@ianschroth6575 3 года назад
Same here, but instead of the A's, for me it would be the Phillies, Flyers, and Eagles. Lol
@poshko41
@poshko41 3 года назад
Try being an Indians fan.
@johnstjohn1987
@johnstjohn1987 4 года назад
"You made the playoffs with Starlord at first base."
@Mr.Limekiller
@Mr.Limekiller 4 года назад
haha that's really funny because that actor was in another role XD sometimes actors play vastly different roles in different movies and using your flawless comedy skills you have pointed this out in a very hilarious and fresh youtube comment haha i hope this astute observation earns you a million likes and you are now my best friend for making this very hilarious joke that no one ever makes in youtube comment sections haha
@johnstjohn1987
@johnstjohn1987 4 года назад
@@Mr.Limekiller I thoroughly enjoyed reading this comment my Friend. It really shows how your attempt at humor is about as funny as your huge run on sentence. Whats even more hilarious is how your grammar skills reminds me of my 5 year old.
@hskshag00
@hskshag00 4 года назад
Mr. Limekiller you must be a hit at parties
@juliorodriguez9789
@juliorodriguez9789 4 года назад
@@adrianb8446 Lol got him.
@CVSoprano
@CVSoprano 4 года назад
@@adrianb8446 BOOM! HEAD SHOT!
@matthewdriscoll8327
@matthewdriscoll8327 3 года назад
In the years after this conversation, the Red Sox went on to win four World Series, and win the division half a dozen times. The A’s have yet to win a playoff series
@poppy87
@poppy87 3 года назад
I hate the narrative that the Sox didnt spend money; they spent A LOT of money.
@Al-vf5oq
@Al-vf5oq 3 года назад
Things are looking up for Billy this year lol
@NovemberBaseball
@NovemberBaseball 3 года назад
@EaST CoAsT MaCHete 1998, 1999, 2000.
@rcslyman8929
@rcslyman8929 3 года назад
@Souligna Savann Exactly this. Oakland was doing it on a budget because they didn't have money to spend. Yes, they paid less money to get the same OBP production in three players as compared to one star player. The rub is that's now three players you have to field to make up for one. And they had other deficiencies, which was why they were able to be gotten on the cheap. Boston takes this same approach, they pick up that star player with the impressive OBP that isn't so lacking in other areas, more slots in the roster for a more robust team, and seven open field positions rather than five. Their overall production value is increased as a result, as long as they are making decisions around increasing that value. And, as a side benefit, they get return value from the fans that player draws into the stadium.
@wvu05
@wvu05 3 года назад
@@rcslyman8929 And, as the book points out, if you end up with really solid players, you can't afford them once their contracts are up. This is why Oakland can't have sustained success with the diamonds in the rough that they do find.
@eugkra33
@eugkra33 3 года назад
this movie had so many great, well written scenes. I don't care at all about baseball, but the core of this movie really wasn't about baseball at all.
@NickGuy0320
@NickGuy0320 3 года назад
Except it was
@evanabbott2737
@evanabbott2737 3 года назад
I need to finally see this movie...I’ve been sidestepping it for years because I also don’t care about baseball..!😁
@danielponce774
@danielponce774 3 года назад
Then what could it possibly be about if it wasn’t about baseball lol
@austin5977
@austin5977 3 года назад
@@danielponce774 it's more of a movie about business
@danielponce774
@danielponce774 3 года назад
@@austin5977 you saw the movie and thought it was about business? Lord lol
@tuliocano8468
@tuliocano8468 3 года назад
This movie is a school for managers, not just of a baseball team but all kind of company. is pure gold.
@algea2003
@algea2003 3 года назад
Billy leveraged that offer to get 2.5% ownership of the A’s
@samuelwoods7832
@samuelwoods7832 3 года назад
Like that was his deal?
@regibson23
@regibson23 3 года назад
@Tiber Zeek No way. Always take ownership over salary with an established business. There's a reason the As only spent $40M a year on players and didn't want to spend more. They need to stay profitable. And if they're profitable ownership gets paid.
@Lacosanostra699
@Lacosanostra699 3 года назад
@Tiber Zeek Considering the teams worth today id say it was the right choice.
@foxtrotyankee6131
@foxtrotyankee6131 3 года назад
@Tiber Zeek $1bn, he owns 1% so hes got a $10m stake in the A's
@foxtrotyankee6131
@foxtrotyankee6131 3 года назад
@Tiber Zeek bro what are you on about... never said which was the right choice, simply answered someones question about how much the team is worth today... Where do I mention a $10m stake is a profit... Where do I mention he made the wrong choice... Also where tf is the $90m value coming from... at most the FV of that investment in 2003 would be around $40m
@mg19cal
@mg19cal 4 года назад
Amazing how Smalls went from not knowing how to play baseball or KNOWING who the Bambino was, to being the radio announcer for the Dodgers, to OWNING the Red Sox and breaking the Curse of the Bambino. Red Sox fans need to thank Benny the Jet every day
@MrTUBEular10
@MrTUBEular10 4 года назад
Whomst is this Bambino?
@mg19cal
@mg19cal 4 года назад
@@MrTUBEular10 ??
@samwise7273
@samwise7273 4 года назад
@@MrTUBEular10it's some lady I think.
@romangeneral23
@romangeneral23 4 года назад
@@samwise7273 Ruth, Baby Ruth !!!!!!!!!!!
@andrewdevita629
@andrewdevita629 3 года назад
@@MrTUBEular10 The colossus of clout?
@bacflash
@bacflash Год назад
Although I don't understand baseball, I keep coming back to this great scene. Such a casual conversation but so much is implied (including a summation & verification of Billy's amazing work with Oakland Athletic that season). Arliss Howard's portrayal of John Henry deserves an award. So riveting and no background music needed.
@Rez981
@Rez981 2 года назад
“The first guy through the way always gets bloodied. Always. It’s a threat, not just a way of doing business. But in their minds it’s threatening the game, but what it is really threatening their livelihoods and it’s effecting their jobs. It’s threatening the way that they do things. And every time that happens whether it is a government or a way of doing business. Whatever it is, the people holding reigns with hands on the switch go batshit crazy.”
@AnnaLVajda
@AnnaLVajda 2 года назад
Control freaks they hate change.
@whenmullet2674
@whenmullet2674 2 года назад
hey my speakers are broken, could you type out the rest of the dialogue in the scene please?
@jimmydean239
@jimmydean239 2 года назад
Wow you typed exactly what the guy said in the movie! GOOD JOB!1🤓
@mg19cal
@mg19cal 4 года назад
2:24 "My offer is this: nothing." Oh wait, wrong movie
@wayoutfarout
@wayoutfarout 4 года назад
...not even the price of the licence...which I'd appreciate if you'd personally pay for....
@aroshan644
@aroshan644 4 года назад
Don Michael Corleone
@Speedy2619
@Speedy2619 3 года назад
You mean miss sloan?
@chucknola484
@chucknola484 3 года назад
You Gawd Damn guineas really make me laugh!
@dagalfheim7056
@dagalfheim7056 3 года назад
I knew you had the wrong movie cause there were no broken sunglasses in the cup of water
@ryancrowell9867
@ryancrowell9867 3 года назад
as a Sox fan it was really nice to see John Henry portrayed this way. To be successful in pro sports you really do need someone at the top that has that kind of a philosophy. Boston sports has been lucky to have good ownership these past few decades.
@fabri1314
@fabri1314 2 года назад
yep, definitely. im yankee but i can’t deny the way boston have been playing the last years. big props to the organization. yet new york keeps spending more money -like that Stanton mistake- and still can’t make it through playoffs.
@DarrenBates
@DarrenBates 2 года назад
And Liverpool. English, European, World and Super cup champions.
@pappy374
@pappy374 2 года назад
@@DarrenBates Whilst that is true, Henry and FSG are running into a wall with Liverpool over investments in the team.
@brianelizardo6375
@brianelizardo6375 2 года назад
His name was Theo 😂 how easily Red Sox fans forget 87 years 😂
@nicolasmartinez795
@nicolasmartinez795 Год назад
i know right, to have that foresight when everyone else is thinking the other direction.
@LivinhItUp
@LivinhItUp 3 года назад
What's lost about this scene is that this is exactly the kind of thing the A's were going through for years with their players. Bigger teams gutting the smaller ones for their best players. It was happening again with the Red Sox trying to buy out Billy and make him the highest paid GM for their franchise. Although there were more factors to why Billy didn't join the Sox in real life, I like that they had this scene and it shows the conflict between "seeing this all the way through" (with the A's) or joining another team through the sheer will of money.
@protoman1365
@protoman1365 11 месяцев назад
Knowing that in real life that the A’s stripped down the entire team and are now moving to Vegas, it makes the ending depressing. Like Billy’s sacrifice for the sake of loyalty being all for naught.
@Ryan-wc2cs
@Ryan-wc2cs 3 года назад
"...The first guy through the wall, he always gets bloody. Always" Great great great line.
@SlideIX
@SlideIX 3 года назад
I honestly love that line
@peterfrank3365
@peterfrank3365 4 года назад
I always particularly like the cinematography in this scene.
@ObamaFromKenya
@ObamaFromKenya 4 года назад
Peter Frank is that actually in Fenway 🤔
@cadenr06
@cadenr06 4 года назад
Barry Obama Probably because it was probably easier to film it in Fenway than fake it
@shaunwhelan17
@shaunwhelan17 4 года назад
This movie period was just so well done. It's nuts
@JuKeyy7
@JuKeyy7 3 года назад
cadenr06 Probably probably probably probably
@The22Walli
@The22Walli 3 года назад
This movie is beautifully shot. Wally Pfister is the cinematographer and Bennet Miller the director, both great
@Diskoboy1974
@Diskoboy1974 2 года назад
Arliss Howard is one of the most sorely underrated actors in the business. I love pretty much everything he's in.
@SophiaAphrodite
@SophiaAphrodite 7 месяцев назад
One of the few times in the last 5 years someone used underrated correctly.
@garymazeffa
@garymazeffa 3 года назад
A beautifully shot and edited scene with a slower and deliberate pace. Softly spoken where you almost need to lean in to listen. Preachy without being preachy. Perfect.
@Gutenburg100
@Gutenburg100 3 года назад
Basically his speech is exactly what the hedgefund guys are doing right now. Someone found a way to break their game and they are freaking out.
@TheHybridlogic
@TheHybridlogic 3 года назад
Exactly. Great analogy.
@johnford2517
@johnford2517 3 года назад
You have to be truly delusional to think you are getting one over on hedge funds. The arrogance that takes is beyond my ability to imagine.
@nationradical
@nationradical 3 года назад
How are they not? And besides this shows the cracks of our financial system-the popular outrage over this can’t be discounted
@alibertobertolo8954
@alibertobertolo8954 3 года назад
Yep
@Connor8609
@Connor8609 3 года назад
Man, this aged well/
@jimjimmyjames59
@jimjimmyjames59 2 года назад
Sometimes "star vehicles" short change the story - but Mr. Howard, a known name but not a star name, running this scene with Mr. Pitt, completely comfortable in his own abilities - is a pleasure to watch. (Ouch - my grammar and syntax is awful, but you get the idea.)
@sgt.thundercok4704
@sgt.thundercok4704 Год назад
No, me like. I start talking like you. Simpler.
@JoRN1222
@JoRN1222 Год назад
Need to see Arliss Howard in more movies and TV shows. He is excellent and I've been a fan since Full Metal Jacket
@drthegreatbrownie
@drthegreatbrownie 3 года назад
That actor has way more emotion than the real John Henry
@MattAlbie
@MattAlbie Год назад
I love this scene. The disbelief in "you were grateful..." YOU need to be grateful to US?! Look what you accomplished!
@NT-fo3me
@NT-fo3me 4 года назад
I GOTTA watch this movie again. Haven't in years and I keep watching clips on YT. Have it on DVD.
@intelltr4563
@intelltr4563 4 года назад
The Red Sox did win 4 World Series titles since. Congrats
@alwillk
@alwillk 4 года назад
It worked out really well for Boston. Oakland. Not so much. Beane screwed up the 2014 team by trading Cespedes for Lester and traded in 2009 CarGo for Holliday for Brett Wallace was terrible. He also got garbage for Tim Hudson. And the Moneyball Draft 2002 He had 7 first round picks and only Nick Swisher and Joe Blanton were any good.
@alwillk
@alwillk 4 года назад
@warrcc c Yes. In baseball if you want to win consistently you have to spend money. You can fluke a good season here and there like KC in 2015 or Miami in 2003. But, the top teams spend money.
@solame4983
@solame4983 4 года назад
@@alwillk Well yeah, Oakland has no money so they have to gamble a lot. And also, all the other teams started playing Moneyball as well so they weren't able to steal undervalued players anymore. And finally, the college draft is hard no matter what, the dataset on high school and college kids is too little and inaccurate to determine anything.
@crunch9876
@crunch9876 4 года назад
al d isn’t that higher than average? 2 out of 7 first round picks being any good
@alwillk
@alwillk 4 года назад
@@crunch9876 No, More first round picks make it to the show. I'd say 70%.
@tailhookmd2546
@tailhookmd2546 3 года назад
Some scenes are so well acted that you just get lost. You just totally buy in. This is one of those scenes.
@rickrose5377
@rickrose5377 2 года назад
My father first took me to Wrigley Field when I was 5 years old. To give you an idea of what epoch that was, Ernie Banks was the National League MVP that year. I took care of my mom for the last 7 years of her life. She passed away at the age of 97, and the Cubs had not won a World Series during her lifetime. I have a photo on my phone. It's Theo Epstein sitting in Billy Beane's office.
@wingmanalive
@wingmanalive 4 года назад
No sport in American history has had more films based off it than baseball. None. I'm not even a baseball fanatic but this one is right up there with The Natural and Major League. Of course there's always Field of Dreams, 42, Bad News Bears, The Final Season, Bull Durham, The Rookie, and so on and so on. This one is just great because it's more current. I actually remember the "run". It was amazing.
@jaydenherrera4177
@jaydenherrera4177 4 года назад
wingmanalive don’t forget The Sandlot!!
@kathleenpovey333
@kathleenpovey333 4 года назад
Don't forget A League of Their Own.
@wingmanalive
@wingmanalive 4 года назад
@@kathleenpovey333 Another good one! I knew I was going to forget some/many.
@wingmanalive
@wingmanalive 4 года назад
@Daniel Treadwell Please explain. It's based off a true story. What about it you didn't like? I'm from Pittsburgh and live in Philadelphia but even I found this movie entertaining. You have something against the A's? Seriously I want to know.
@wingmanalive
@wingmanalive 4 года назад
@Daniel Treadwell Well like I said I'm no fanatic and I certainly never followed the history. About the only time I did follow it was when the Phillies played the Blue Jays for the series in 1993. That was a motley crew! Darren Daulten, John Kruk, Mickey Morandini, Lenny Dykstra, Mitch Williams, ect. They were fun to watch.Then Joe Carter had to.................slap one out lol. Mitch actually owned a bar not far from my girlfriend's house in Pennsauken NJ. He had so many death threats against him he had to stop showing up. That's Philly fans for ya!
@eXcommunicate1979
@eXcommunicate1979 2 года назад
The Foley work in this scene is incredible.
@geovannomozes7010
@geovannomozes7010 2 года назад
Agree
@sgt.thundercok4704
@sgt.thundercok4704 Год назад
Foley wasn't the only union member working this job. Hockstein, Bertelsen and McGraw were there as well. I think Hockstein was running the audio setup, resulting in this solid soundtrack and outstanding sound effects.
@jalcome4201
@jalcome4201 2 года назад
You know whats beautiful. That he refused. "You will be a great baseball player, this offer reflects our desire" is the same as this here "You will be a great GM for us, this offer reflects our desire"
@mortichro
@mortichro Месяц назад
i can imagine John W Henry has this same kind of conversation with Michael Edwards to convince him to come back to Liverpool..
@rogerkincaid931
@rogerkincaid931 4 года назад
I love this scene. Great ending.
@matteowatteo1296
@matteowatteo1296 3 года назад
Love this movie. Well acted and an amazing insight into pro sports. Far more credit should be given to Paul DePodesta for his brilliant thinking and less to Billy Bean for embracing his genius out of economic necessity.
@aliqazilbash5231
@aliqazilbash5231 4 года назад
There is a clear reason this movie made it with an Oscar, so much truth smashed into one scene..
@ExperienceBasement
@ExperienceBasement 4 года назад
Sadly, it didn’t win a single one
@smk3390
@smk3390 4 года назад
One of the best explainations of human mentality to change ever.
@drfunk1986
@drfunk1986 4 года назад
i like how he puts the offer down
@Korijenkins1414
@Korijenkins1414 3 года назад
The problem with the A's was that Beane basically let it become public knowledge what he was doing. Then everyone started doing it, and the advantage they had disappeared. While he was trying to find 3 players to match Giambi, other teams were just getting 5 of 6 Giambis. 18 years later, the Athletics have not won a World Series. They've won a couple division titles, but haven't even reached the World Series in 30 years, which is below average if you assume a team will win a title every 30 years based on the amount of teams. Movie also totally leaves out that they had Miguel Tejada and Barry Zito, that year's respective AL MVP and AL Cy Young winner.
@WhoopityDoo
@WhoopityDoo 2 года назад
Barry Zito still has the best curveball in baseball history. Won't ever change my mind on that.
@jordanrutledge7943
@jordanrutledge7943 2 года назад
“If you assume a team will win a title every 30 years” That’s a dumb assumption, not every team has the same payroll. This would put the vast majority of teams “below average”, which makes no sense. The A’s have an above average regular season record over that period of time, despite having consistently one of the worst payrolls. Meanwhile the teams with the most success since then, the Red Sox, Giants, and Cardinals, have all had consistently high payrolls over that period. A bigger reason for A’s lack of postseason success is a lack of “clutch”. The teams that manage to win the World Series with a lower payroll generally do it by performing significantly better in the playoffs than their regular season play. And conversely, the Yankees and Dodgers have had the best payrolls but not as many championships as their talent could produce, because they have had worse playoff play than regular season play.
@elijahstraight402
@elijahstraight402 2 года назад
@@jordanrutledge7943 So in order words, you're basically saying: Penny pinch with the team payroll, get clubbered throughout the regular season, but only enough to squeeze into the playoffs, and then go all world on the competition, right? That'll get you a title for sure😂
@johnnicolazzo4146
@johnnicolazzo4146 2 года назад
The rainy late November atmosphere plays so well in this scene, it’s perfect for this subdued conversation
@jackmurphy2565
@jackmurphy2565 3 года назад
Thanks Billy Beane, you now made John W Henry Liverpool's majority owner and has made them an Oakland A's of the Premier league. Here's to another 30 years...
@PRYVTgomerPYLE
@PRYVTgomerPYLE 3 года назад
Science really did end the curse of the Bambino... Such a great line in this movie!
@roshi98
@roshi98 3 года назад
I contend that John Henry applied "moneyball" more to Liverpool FC than to the Red Sox. All it took was the right manager (Jurgen Klopp), adjusting scouting priorities, and selling off overpriced stars at peak valuation.
@isaimora4198
@isaimora4198 3 года назад
Mane, Firmino, Salah, Van Djik Pure moneyball theory there
@roshi98
@roshi98 3 года назад
@@isaimora4198 Take a look at LFC's net spend and get back to me. Moneyball does NOT MEAN never spending big money on certain players, so long as they fit the system. Compare what the Suarez money was spent on versus what the Coutinho money brought in.
@isaimora4198
@isaimora4198 3 года назад
@@roshi98 i'm sorry if my comment was not clear What I meant to say is that I agree with you All those players like Van Djik, Firmino, Salah are good examples of meneyball They were not the most expensive yet They are now some of the best in the world So yeah, liverpool is a great example of moneyball theory
@tc7560
@tc7560 3 года назад
@@isaimora4198 Not quite, VVD was at the time the highest transfer record for a CB (still 2nd highest now). But in this case Liverpool absolutely made the right choice to shell out money here.
@MaxMW1
@MaxMW1 2 года назад
@@tc7560 that money was funded from the sale of coutinho
@phirephate
@phirephate 11 месяцев назад
Love this slow paced scene. That fact that there was a low key thunderstorm in the background makes it even better.
@LeoWhalen1933
@LeoWhalen1933 2 года назад
Arliss Howard is my favorite actor. I had no idea this was him.
@volumeturneddown9600
@volumeturneddown9600 3 года назад
"Why did I take your call? Because when you make me an offer, I'll use it to squeeze more money from the A's. You think I learned nothing from Giambi?"
@caltom1427
@caltom1427 3 года назад
“Cowboy” from Full Metal Jacket.
@DukeofLorraine
@DukeofLorraine 3 года назад
He was also the adult Scotty Smalls in the Sandlot
@LowReadyActual
@LowReadyActual 4 месяца назад
It's interesting that he put the offer in writing and pushed it over to him. He knows that having the offer in physical form makes it more real. Masterclass in persuasion, even though it ultimately didn't work.
@mykmcgrane
@mykmcgrane 7 месяцев назад
This speech about changing things for cheaper and better can be applied to so many things today. Damn damn. Bennett Miller really did it man. Great scene.
@Vaultboy50s
@Vaultboy50s 2 года назад
Love this scene! Love John's speech to Billy.
@ANTHONY0808able
@ANTHONY0808able 2 года назад
It was captivating, I agree.
@deancj1
@deancj1 4 года назад
Never mind the fact that the Oakland A's had and have one of the richest owners in baseball. We Oakland fans are sick of their low ball b.s. seems to be changing slightly......at least they are staying here.
@poppy87
@poppy87 4 года назад
The giants can win.
@Raiders1234
@Raiders1234 4 года назад
Nah.... they will be in Vegas soon.
@Rensune
@Rensune 4 года назад
The opposite doesn't work, either. The Washington Redskins, in Football, have had the Most overpaid players in the league, for Decades. Yet they haven't made it to the Superbowl in 25 years
@MurfMan96
@MurfMan96 4 года назад
Try being a Pirates fan bro 😂
@LettucePlate
@LettucePlate 4 года назад
@@Rensune I'm pretty sure the Redskins have one of the worst owners/ownership groups in the history of American sports. They'll never be good until they're gone.
@Boxscot49
@Boxscot49 19 дней назад
The dialogue in this movie is so perfectly natural. Better than most movies I’ve seen
@SnowCompanion
@SnowCompanion Год назад
It really feels like he never wrote an amount . He gave him a blank check because he's that good
@eadams1057
@eadams1057 2 года назад
Love this scene. I just lost game 5 for the second year in a row. Get her a bowling ball. 57 years old. Lifelong Redsox fan. That place is a shrine.
@Brad88ford
@Brad88ford 3 года назад
This can be applied to everything in life. Think outside the box
@mg19cal
@mg19cal 4 года назад
2:01 "you know, my uncle once had a dinosaur park that I swindled him out of"
@fuita227
@fuita227 3 года назад
Just once would I love to have that look Brad gives, when he see's the amount on that piece of paper...I could die after that...cause it's not about the ring.
@matthewcarle5970
@matthewcarle5970 4 года назад
2001: Vietnam vet Pvt. Cowboy once thought dead, retired from the Marines and went on to own the Boston Red Sox
@robertmorris8997
@robertmorris8997 4 года назад
Actually he was a Corporal in Vietnam.
@gmoney4292
@gmoney4292 4 года назад
Oh my that is private cowboy.... "I didn't know that stacked 💩 that high"
@markkond8565
@markkond8565 4 года назад
Nah, Cowboy got eaten by a T-rex. That's his identical twin.
@feslerae
@feslerae 4 года назад
There ain't one horse in baseball. Not one.
@maxbrazil3712
@maxbrazil3712 2 года назад
Arliss Howard is a pure actor, an elite.
@Th3DarkCanuck
@Th3DarkCanuck 3 года назад
Such a great movie. I watch it at least once a year.
@punkrockdavid
@punkrockdavid 3 года назад
The things the guy with the glasses are saying hold true so much in the real world.
@slimj091
@slimj091 4 года назад
I mean he was kind of right. Teams that have embraced analytics and sabermetrics have been dominate over the past decade and a half. The only problem is that dominance only lasts as long as their key players don't enter free agency. Then the party is over, and it's starting over from scratch.
@robertg6019
@robertg6019 4 года назад
Man this movie has some great scenes
@user-bz9sj8mh5d
@user-bz9sj8mh5d 3 года назад
Billy turned down the offer to stay closer to family. Maybe he should've taken it, he still hasn't won a World Series since. However, he is now a part owner of the A's, so it's not like he's in the poor house.
@aznpikachu215
@aznpikachu215 3 года назад
If I recall. Didn't he get minority ownership with th A's?
@kendallevans4079
@kendallevans4079 3 года назад
True, also confusing why he's stressed about " hoping to send my daughter to college"? Come on! All these jobs in baseball including this one and he's cash strapped for college funds? I can't believe that unless Robin Wright took him to the cleaners ( with her Birkenstock, curry breath, tofu eating hippy man-child 2nd husband).
@aznpikachu215
@aznpikachu215 3 года назад
@@kendallevans4079 He's probably talking about Universities instead of community colleges.
@kendallevans4079
@kendallevans4079 3 года назад
@@aznpikachu215 Still.! He must have had at least a couple million, don't you think? I just can't imagine the GM of a MLB club worry about sending their kid to ANY university...
@M3A7
@M3A7 3 года назад
@@aznpikachu215 Ah yes, that $30k a year tuition is so hard to pay for when you are making $2+ million a year............. Dumb comment dude.
@jeffm3163
@jeffm3163 3 года назад
I have a whole new respect for John Henry.
@biggsw7783
@biggsw7783 3 года назад
No way John Henry is this smooth in real life
@garcianelson123
@garcianelson123 3 года назад
Fun Fact the actor with Brad is Cowboy from Full Metal Jacket
3 года назад
Didn't recognize him untill u said that
@drphalanges1520
@drphalanges1520 4 месяца назад
Arliss Howard is so natural in this scene. This is some of the best acting I think I've ever seen.
@vitaminA_1
@vitaminA_1 3 года назад
The guy playing the Red Sox owner is smooth as hell.
@kendallevans4079
@kendallevans4079 3 года назад
Yes and I thought Billy was out of line with the "...get her a bowling ball for all I care.." comment. The owner was just making a little small talk to warm up to the big stuff, nothing wrong there.
@jeffhobbs1729
@jeffhobbs1729 2 года назад
anybody who has ever seen Full Metal Jacket knows Arliss is the real deal. His portrayal of Cowboy especially his feath scene is just perfect
@robertb2245
@robertb2245 4 года назад
Great monologue !!!
@danielplainview2360
@danielplainview2360 2 года назад
2:40 "10 year/100k. Take it or leave it"
@mikefriend1514
@mikefriend1514 2 года назад
Henry may not have lured Billy Beane to the Red Sox but he did bring Juergen Klopp to Liverpool FC. So he’s a pretty good judge of Character.
@evanhaskel206
@evanhaskel206 4 года назад
It would have been funny if he had sent a copy of the offer to the former head scout who thought he was setting them up to fail. No words would be necessary.
@moralesfv8228
@moralesfv8228 3 года назад
No need. you're either in the game or you're out. And when you're out, you're no longer privied to that type of info, you're simply out and alone with your bones.
@hybridtechowns
@hybridtechowns 3 года назад
Yeah that guy was a jerk
@Putaspellonyou
@Putaspellonyou 4 года назад
"Congratulations. That makes you the highest paid general manager in the history of sports."
@justinb2022
@justinb2022 4 месяца назад
Howard is such a great actor.
@red5llaw
@red5llaw 3 года назад
Fabulous clip. awesome.
@MrTUBEular10
@MrTUBEular10 4 года назад
A's lose their postseason opportunity in 2019 to.... The Tampa Bay Rays, lowest payroll to start the season. Big oof.
@dialecticalmonist3405
@dialecticalmonist3405 3 года назад
Billy Bean thinking in 4D. He wants to lose a bunch to get better picks and then they all come to fruition when the new stadium is built and the owner opens the checkbook to spend big on free agents.
@guardianangel138
@guardianangel138 2 года назад
i sooooooooooo loved this scene. i so hope this conversation and meeting was so true. billy says cause its the redsoxs and i believe science has an answer in which baseball curses shouldnt come true. has a curse of the bambino. well written. so true. and you hired bill james. well baseball hates him. classic.
@TerrillFischer
@TerrillFischer 3 года назад
Best line in the whole movie which applies to life! @1:26 to @1:59 "The First guy through the wall always get bloodied. Always!..."
@GrinderCB
@GrinderCB 2 года назад
This is one of my favorite baseball movies ever. Ranks right up there with Pride of the Yankees.
@sergioelgueda7298
@sergioelgueda7298 4 года назад
0:36 This phrase applies to almost all sports...
@mr.gentlezombie8709
@mr.gentlezombie8709 3 года назад
Not football though.
@ttanizawa901
@ttanizawa901 2 года назад
I know next to zero about baseball and this is still one of my favorite movies.
@bolch88bb8
@bolch88bb8 2 года назад
The dude with the glasses owns this role. So believeable.
@ChristianHasselberg
@ChristianHasselberg 2 года назад
One of the best speeches of all time.
@Sneakycastro69
@Sneakycastro69 4 года назад
Funny because the marlins won a World Series with only 47 million dollar payroll.
@williamblackfyre4866
@williamblackfyre4866 4 года назад
Is that adjusted for inflation? If not, it's not really a fair comparison. I mean, look at the 93 Phillies, they made the World Series on a payroll of 26 million.
@mario2942
@mario2942 4 года назад
William Blackfyre marlins won in 2003, this movie is set in 2002
@lucyhg2010
@lucyhg2010 4 года назад
William Blackfyre are you dumb?
@mjwbulich
@mjwbulich 4 года назад
That was one of if not the biggest fluke in the history of MLB. The owner had gutted the team of all it's talent to cut payroll. Anyone that would use the 2003 Marlins as a model on how to build a winning team is a complete idiot.
@antoyal
@antoyal 3 года назад
In their first 11 seasons the Marlins had just two seasons with a W/L over .500: a 91-win season and a 92-win season. Two seasons, and two wild card spots that led to World Series wins. Fluke city, and an excellent argument against increasing the number of wild card spots, not to mention runaway expansion of the number of teams. (Can you tell that I'm a salty Giants fan? 😄) But you've got to hand it to them, they made the most of their playoff spots.
@wesley2508
@wesley2508 4 года назад
If you can get to the playoffs for 40 million, why would you ever pay more than that? That's the threat Billy created in this movie.
@scarpfish
@scarpfish 3 года назад
More than a quarter of MLB teams make the playoffs. Its not that big of an accomplishment, esspecially when you're in a piss weak division.
@justinhopper5941
@justinhopper5941 3 года назад
He’d pay more so he’’d get better players. The players he looked for and got with the A’s were still in his budget. He could trade for better players who get on base more and can get more runs etc. Witch equal more wins if he had more cash. The playoffs were like his ceiling with the 40 mil he had. Imagine if he had say 70 mil to play with. He’d go further in the playoffs and win a championship potentially. Just like the Red Sox did shortly after with their budget but using his formula.
@REB4444
@REB4444 6 месяцев назад
What's amazing is that the dinosaurs in the scout team meeting were the ones that drafted the true superstars of this team and that the bumbling fool manager is the one that taught them to win BEFORE Moneyball was implemented. Howe won as many games the year before as he did after Moneyball. Moneyball hasn't advanced this team any further towards the World Series than before it became a thing. yes, analytics is important, but not anymore important than having a Manager or scout team that trusts their experience & instincts.
@peterbell5806
@peterbell5806 2 года назад
1:30 classic quote. Sticks with me still
@viksaggu9085
@viksaggu9085 4 года назад
Why did you return my call? Free coffee
@NYG1991
@NYG1991 4 года назад
So the great New York Yankees spent $1.4 million per win against the A’s $260K?! Wow! Talk about a huge gap!
@pdxlockpicker7796
@pdxlockpicker7796 3 года назад
250m roster vs 41m roster. Pretty insane
@NYG1991
@NYG1991 3 года назад
@@pdxlockpicker7796, it is & it’s also tough to compare the numbers.
@CresencioMedina
@CresencioMedina Год назад
For those deep hearted baseball fans, that gentleman with the glasses, he portrayed the adult Scottie Smalls in The Sandlot.
@adamkarr3218
@adamkarr3218 Год назад
"random quote that we all heard" Amazing!!!!
@claudiadelaosa7125
@claudiadelaosa7125 3 года назад
This scene is hands down so freaking good!
@bestoutcomes
@bestoutcomes 3 года назад
The A's are like the Buffalo Bills -- good as a team until the game counts, at which time they tank
@Egilhelmson
@Egilhelmson 3 года назад
To lose is not to tank (deliberately throw the game or series, as did the Black Sox a century ago).
@FirebrickFoxx
@FirebrickFoxx 2 года назад
Beane declining the offer was the best thing he ever did and he had vowed never to make a decision based on Money again after he turned down his scholarship to Stanford for playing with the Mets. By Staying with the A's, he chose his family and his loyalty to the A's over 12.5 million dollars with the Red Sox. That decision paid back heavy, because over the next few years, he was given partial ownership of the A's and then later became Executive VP of the A's. Sometimes following your values pays off and it sure did for this guy.
@ALD56
@ALD56 2 года назад
Awesome scene in a movie full of them. That was a BIG number on that piece of paper (for the time)
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