Monolith M-215 vs SVS PB16 Subwoofer Showdown

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Monolith M-215 vs SVS PB16 Subwoofer Showdown. Today we put the Monolith M-215 head to head against the SVS PB16 Ultra subwoofer using REW (Room EQ Wizard.
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@fooschnickens 4 года назад

That's about how I thought it would turn out. This is one place the automotive and audio worlds overlap in that there really is no replacement for displacement. The M215 has both more cone area and cabinet volume than the PB16, so it's no surprise that it has a ludicrous amount of LF extension that the PB16 does not. It also highlights how well designed the PB16 is as it's able to keep up with the M215 in its upper range. Dollar for dollar, both products have very compelling pros and cons. So it really comes down to how much space you have in your theater setup and how much you care about sub-bass response. Both seem to be fantastic products that will fill different roles for different people, and in the end, we win as consumers.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Very well said. Completely agree with you.

@darealestwon 4 года назад

I love the enthusiasm on your videos. It always puts me in a good mood when you drop a new one

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks Khalif!

@rupedogg24 4 года назад

Bravo sir. Years from now when I'm ready I know what I'm going to pick up.

@Youthman 4 года назад

By then, they will likely have something bigger and better to offer

@DuzBee 4 года назад

I always love seeing the Monoliths sub 20hz response haha! Always beef way down town to 10hz, even the single Mono 15” does this.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Yeah it’s pretty crazy

@monijam1 3 года назад

Thanks for the video Youthman. FYI, right now Monoprice has the M-215 on sale (20% off) for $1,999.99 vs. $2499.99 for the PB-16 Ultra!

@aquarius7979 4 года назад

Thx Youthman for the nice comparison! I also might play around with REW 👍

@Youthman 4 года назад

It’s a lot of fun and can show you what is happening in your room

@aslimali103 Год назад

I'm so happy you did this comparison, now I know what I am buying, monolith m215, great explanation 👍 👏 😀

@classicgalactica5879 4 года назад

Great comparison, thank you. Fun fact: In my admittedly small viewing/listening area my humble SVS SB 2000's stay flat to 10hz. I think that most sealed enclosures tend to go lower than most ported enclosures. I also watched Godzilla KOTM recently, as well as a movie called A Quiet Place, and the room was breathing at times. I didn't measure the frequencies, but when A Quiet Place finally stopped being Quiet, there were scenes where you couldn't hear bass at all, only feel the room moving. To each their own, but it's sealed subs for me!

@Youthman 4 года назад

That’s awesome. I reviewed dual SB16 in my room but they didn’t have the impact I was looking for. Dual PB16 were what I was looking for. A Quiet Place is a great demo disk.

@mohammedisaa9952 Год назад

I wonder how many watts worth of electricity it cost you to drive basically a "suction pump"..... (For others) The more louder you want your sound (especially at 10hz) the more the cone has to move, in this case with the box being sealed, when the driver cone goes out, it creates a huge vacume in the sealed box, and conversely when the driver cone has to go back into the box, it has to hugely compress the air...... These pulls and pushes into the available air not only makes it harder for the cone to travel, which greatly reduces responsiveness, but to accomplish this feat, it requires huge amounts of strength, thats both electricity and added heat to the coil, which in a "sealed box" can not so eaisily disapate...... Basically this gentleman above me has baught himself (with respect) a huge submarine..... because thats how they work when they have to dive and surface, they either compress or uncompress huge volumes of air to acheave buoyancy..... 😂😂😂😂 would i buy a SB version, Never..... But some people like them for whatever reason..... they are cheeper, and save space, best option is to buy a SB and buy a kit box, build your own, and sell your SB box and save half the price of a PB version...... yet have the un restrained sound and added cooling 🤔...... makes ya think ey?....

@Youthman Год назад

I prefer ported when drivers are 15” or smaller due to the extra output. But once you get to 18” and above, I feel sealed is a phenomenal option. You do not have to worry about port chuffing (which almost every ported sub has to some extent), cabinets can be much smaller and you typically get lower extension. Ported subs also have to be careful playing below their tuning frequency as they will unload and begin to flop around like a fish out of water.

@EJHilt 4 года назад

Keep up the good work youth man. Allways a joy watching your videos.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you EJ

@rafaelruiz-tagle358 4 года назад

God I love these videos you make! It's right up my alley in entertainment. Thanks Youthman! It was really educational.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you Rafael! I appreciate the encouraging words

@emmnuelj6136 4 года назад

loving your intros here. Awesome work as well as great video.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you kindly

@midevil1980 4 года назад

Love the intro. Another great video, Youthman! 😉👍

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you.

@joellaprade4232 4 года назад

Awesome video YM. Thanks for the update.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you

@pierrecastanets1974 3 года назад

Nice performance in the audible frequencies by the smaller pb16

@Pentenfi 2 года назад

Pretty sure the steep roll off of the SVS sub below 20Hz is a Highpass filter to save the driver from overexcursion. Below the tuning frequency, drivers in ported cabinets run into overexcursion very easily.

@Youthman 2 года назад

Correct, it’s intentional.

@darrenburtoft1792 4 года назад

As much as I’m an SVS fanboy, I’d suggest with twice the cone & cabinet size a noticeable victory to Monoprice unfortunately 🤭😔

@haris525 3 года назад

Not even a competition the m215 is amazing! And I am buying one as soon as they are back in stock.

@brent3086 Год назад

Did you get one?

@davidlewis8124 2 года назад

👌 All of your videos are incredibley fun and informative keep up the great work. ✌️

@Youthman 2 года назад

Thank you for the kind words

@Agent-fg9ol 4 года назад

Very informative video as usual Youthman not to mention I'm loving the intro lol... To be honest I'm not surprised at the results, that said... I'm very surprised the svs was able to go toe to toe with the monolith from 20hz up. One of the things we can take away from this video I think is that different manufacturers have different approaches to electronics and what they want to accomplish. With the monolith we can see they went for all out no compromise when it can to output and low frequency performance. With the svs they also went for much of the same but with more focus on easy if use features. At the end of the day we have two amazing products to suit different consumers which is a win win in my opinion 😊

@Youthman 4 года назад

I completely agree. Anytime a consumers has choices, that’s great. Both are certainly excellent choices.

@stevenneese2823 4 года назад

Monolith could have def gained more output at higher frequencies by inceasing the port tuning frequency. There would have been a significant increase in output compared to the svs. It's like they are both V8 engines, but the monolith is a big block with a mild cam for low end power and a flat torque curve, while the svs is a small block with a more radical cam for higher peak power.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Good analogy Steven

@technon8 4 года назад

Sub Sonic frequency: the sounds you want to feel.

@Youthman 4 года назад

My entire room felt it

@technon8 4 года назад

@@Youthman oh yeah no doubt! Love to feel that sub 20hz!

@TaylorMadeTheater 4 года назад

Its Infrasonic frequencies.

@soulintake 2 года назад

Why judge? I like to feel all the frequencies! Mid bass slam in the chest and throat all day too

@raulgutierrez1501 4 года назад

Measurements or no Measurements the Ear does not lie. Keep up the great work!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks. I like to verify measurements with my ears

@simontshukudutshukudu865 4 года назад

Love the intro thts dope 2 bulls in one yard

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you! I worked a long time in that one. Love how it turned out

@gsmd770 4 года назад

Great review! I finally got a chance to watch this. I've been busy with the VA. Man they d--k us vets around! Again great review! That Monolith is a beast! I'm still contented with my 2 PB 13 Ultra's. They get the job done. Keep up the great work Youthman!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks. I have a friend that is a VA. He has similar struggles with them. I too enjoy my PB16’s. I probably will not upgrade until I’m ready to go with (4) 18’s

@wilfredkioko2669 4 года назад

I’ve had the opportunity to test the SVS PB 16 and SB 16. I was disappointed as bass output on the lower end wasn’t solid.

@Youthman 4 года назад

The monolith and Power Sound Audio S3611 have ridiculous low end extension

@Sensi1995 4 года назад

Thanks for the video, amazing!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks!

@joentell 4 года назад

Terrific video. Lighting is on point! I'm curious how much of that compression on the PB16 Ultra is due to the electronic limiting from SVS. I'm wondering if the compression test above 20hz would look different for the SVS. I wouldn't expect you to do that test consider how crazy heavy those are!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks Joe. I considered testing 20Hz and above but I feel that isn’t very helpful considering when watching a movie your receiver isn’t limiting the frequencies to only 20Hz and above. If I would have done the same for the Monolith, it would have likely increased as well

@ratpinscher 4 года назад

For a dedicated theater room I’d choose the 215, for my living room, the PB16 can blend much better. I also recently had the opportunity to use the SVS warranty and it was a breeze.

@Youthman 4 года назад

I agree. I don’t see the M-215 going into too many living room setups.

@ratpinscher 4 года назад

If I was going crazy big I may opt also for the S7201 over the 215 for pure shock and awe.

@Darrellsrelm 4 года назад

Great video. Very informative thanks for sharing

@Youthman 4 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it.

@motorheadforlife9431 4 года назад

I knew all along that the M-215 would come out as the victor here. I can't wait for your review on testing two M-215s at the same time (if you're planning on doing one). 🖒😁

@Youthman 4 года назад

No I do not have any plans on receiving a second M-215

@Youthman 4 года назад

A second would provide 6dB more in gain and would likely fix the dip in the 40Hz range

@motorheadforlife9431 4 года назад

@@Youthman Ah. I see. Just as expected.🖒

@danzilla31stompinontokyo36 4 года назад

Great great review Youthman! I'm starting to realize in my journey that I value a lot more flat response to 20 Hz in a sub and then more higher output on up. There's just not enough content that's worth chasing those deep waters. A subwoofer like the PB 16 or my dual PB 4000's in extended mode that give great output to 16hz flat are more then enough. But for anyone that wants a sub that can do it all output overall very high with deep extension into those deep waters that Monolith is an amazing option what a great buy!

@Youthman 4 года назад

My friend has (4) 18’s that reach single digits. It’s an incredible experience

@danzilla31stompinontokyo36 4 года назад

@@Youthman Man I'm sure it is maybe it's one of those things of if you've never heard it you can't know what you don't know. I've never heard a system yet that could do that so I dont know what I'm missing I just don't know if I wanna do the extra work to get there. In my theater room size I'm getting 2 more PC 4000's to go with the PB 4000's 4 of those run in extended mode should be enough for me I'm thinking. At least I hope so! Lol

@mohammedisaa9952 Год назад

6 × PB4000's....... thats quiet insane.... you could rent them out to demolition companies..... As for 4 × 18 inch twins..... well.... single didgit "infrasound"..... organ damadge.... they can kill @ 7hz, did you know that, as that is a human bodys resonance point.......

@Youthman Год назад

I’ve played my subs many times down to 5Hz and I’m still doing just fine. You would need extreme amount of pressure at those frequencies to kill you.

@nyr36 2 года назад

Amazing info. Thanks for the video

@Youthman 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@garryhammond3117 4 года назад

Whoa! Totally awesome video! Loved the intro from Brad. Haha! You may not "hear" below 20 Hz, but you can certainly "feel" it. Thanks for the great review. Gotta go buy some lottery tickets... :)

@Youthman 4 года назад

Brad did an awesome job on the voiceover. I spent several hours making just the intro. Lol

@JohnRobbfl 4 года назад

Wow - that Monolith is crazy!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Very impressive for sure

@Dr_Xyzt 3 года назад

I can't help but laugh when you do a sweep. I can hear all the stuff in your house shake. Greatness!

@Youthman 3 года назад

Yeah it’s pretty bad lol

@dnate697 6 месяцев назад

I agree with you 100% on this!

@ninomazzini1 4 года назад

Good test!!! Thanks Youthman, please some day test the HSU Research VTF15 vs your SVS16.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks

@tracyherbert2978 4 года назад

Hey Youthman I have 2 question to ask you if you had a chance to purchase 2 new Subs with you go with a single Monoprice M -215 or 2 single Monoprice Monolith 15 ? And another question by you had both of these Subs in your Theater room if you want to purchase new Subs with it be Power Sound audio or Monoprice Monolith ?

@macho9556 4 года назад

Nasty intro!! Nasty editing, Nasty voice. Nice Youthman!!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks! It was a lot of work but a LOT of fun to make

@macho9556 4 года назад

@@Youthman I bet it was 💪💪🔥🔥🔥

@pyrocrew17 4 года назад

Sick nasty

@markprincemolina7548 4 года назад

Youthman who did that voice over 🔥

@Youthman 4 года назад

That was my friend Brad. It’s pretty crazy to hear in person.

@DavidAg02 4 года назад

Great video. Very scientific! Would love to see you do some measurements and comparisons on subwoofers from HSU Research.

@Youthman 4 года назад

I have reached out to them in the past with no response. 👍

@DavidAg02 4 года назад

@@Youthman I only ever see them active on AVS forums, nowhere else. I don't think they care to much about social media exposure, which is a mistake in my opinion. It's clearly done nothing but good things for SVS, and now, Monoprice.

@mattmiller2761 3 года назад

Thanks Youthman. I'm considering a Monolith M-215 to replace my old Sunfire sub. I'm also trying to find more info on the Rythmik FV25HP. It's similar to the M-215, but it's a servo sub. Can't find many reviews on it.

@lordnasty32 3 года назад

That's what I'm trying to find out

@napnapnop 4 года назад

Great video grest testing. Would like to see the impulse response and group delay of both subs.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Have no idea how to show that.

@bphilbac 4 года назад

You da man Youthman! Great review bro.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you

@billyretardo3790 4 года назад

Can anyone explain to me when I run my systems auto mcacc I lose my subs completely.. I run everything on manual but I would like to feel the systems capabilities.. why do I lose my subs??? Please help.. or don't it still sounds ok.. but please..

@MaGNaCET33 4 года назад

Haha I wish I had room for any of them. But in my small 3 x 4 meter room 1 sb 1000 at 50% power is shaking the walls. I plan to get 2 sb 3000 and that will be my end game setup. I really want to get an equal bass response throughout the entire room and an even better bass for music.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Dual SB3000 in a small room will work great

@garrybartle5117 Год назад

Can you lay the monoprice on its side and still get the same performance or does it have to stand upright?

@camaromodz 3 года назад

How does the M-215 do with music response? I know SVS states that the PB-16 was designed to be both good and responsive for both home theater and music.

@Lafiro 4 года назад

Youthman, if you still have the Monolith subs around, could you do another rew measurement. I’ve seen in another video that after the subs are broken in, they start losing spl under 30hz. Maybe you could try and validate this oddity..?

@gary4593 4 года назад

Great video youthman if i was buying a sub it would be PB16 ultra .

@Youthman 4 года назад

It’s a fantastic sub.

@johndaddabbo9383 4 года назад

Youthman, The M-215 does have slightly more output from 20 hz to 80+ hz (remember the M-215 Green line which only had compression at approx 15 hz despite another +3 db output at all other frequencies). So not much more but a bit more output from the M-215 (as would be expected), and more importantly as you state - the ONE PB16 is keeping up with Dual 15s from 18 hz to 80+ hz! That SVS 16 inch Woofer / 8 inch Voicecoil is to Die for! Competition is good! Having options even better!!! I for one cannot believe that another subwoofer actually makes the PB16 Ultra look not so big.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks. There are plenty of subs that make the PB16 look small (JTR and PSA make several)

@georgetek 4 года назад

Love your videos. Do the same test over at Brad's house. Put your back into it 😬

@Youthman 4 года назад

Hahaha I have NO desire to move this beast more than I have to

@rexhomes1690 Год назад

Hey Youthman. I enjoy your reviews and thought you mentioned something about input level problems with the M-215? I just received one today and cannot get the input signal high enough. I contacted Monolith and am waiting. Did you have this problem and if so, how did you solve it? I am thinking of buying a gain box. Just seems like I shouldn't have to do that to get the sub to perform as it should.

@chunkycheesemonkey99 3 года назад

Do you remember how the speed of these subs compared? Was one snappier or cleaner, etc than the other?

@MrHumes-nv1zr 3 года назад

If you're using movies for demo try the movie, Battleship skip to the part where the first battle starts and the shield dome goes up.

@daveycrockett5738 4 года назад

What’s the better sub to go with. I want the best parts and the best sounding\quality bass and the higher at power output. Also I like when they go can really low frequencies and still be quite loud. I know both these subs have there pros and cons and one of them can do some of those things buts not other and vis versa. Which sub should I go with. Please and thank you. And or are there and other subs out there in the same price range of these subs?

@dano7168 4 года назад

Youthman! You have a great channel. I've been watching all of your videos as I've built my modest home theatre and I want to say THANK YOU for all the amazing ideas! One quick question, do you have a video that serves as a "Beginners Guide" to the REW program? I'd love to learn some sound calibration basics to get my 7.2.4 system optimized for my space. Keep it up!!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you Dan, unfortunately I do not have a beginners guide to REW video video

@dano7168 4 года назад

@@Youthman Well . . . there's still time :) Thank you for the FAST response. Keep up the good work! You have a cornerstone channel for home audio.

@Youthman 4 года назад

I appreciate the kind words

@joeydelmarsjr.646 Год назад

custom 18in Fi HT1 had compression around 120-123db

@icantthinkofanoriginalname7818 4 года назад

Wow that intro was the best thing ever

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thank you Thanos! I worked a long time on it

@rolandoiceful 4 года назад

though you would've lost overall output, I would've liked to had seen the svs in extended mode. Do you have a video showing in your room the measurements of the pb16 in sealed, standard & extended?

@Youthman 4 года назад

yes I do have those measurements on the channel, I do not recall which video it’s in though. In extended mode, you lose output above 20 Hz so that would not have helped much

@RBS22 4 года назад

I had no doubt the monolith would win. I liked the tests.🔊👍

@Youthman 4 года назад

Thanks!0

@mohammedisaa9952 Год назад

Simple mathematics 15 × 2 vs 16 × 1....... lol......

@joshcombs943 Год назад

Love your reviews Youthman! I just received my😂 M-215 this afternoon and can only guess it is defective. Really hoping you have some insight to share. At 6db I’m getting almost no excursion, even on monster bass techno tracks. At full gain it’s okay- probably 20% better that the HSU MK-II it replaced but the mains have to be crazy loud at that level and the HSU is only at half volume. I’ve seriously got a display shelf 2’ away from the sub and none of my wife’s nicknacks have moved an inch. It’s a large room with vaulted ceilings but I was expecting maybe triple the output. Do I send it back and get another? Is there a way to test it to make sure it’s an issue with the sub and not with my expectations?

@Youthman Год назад

Hi Josh. Sorry to hear you’re having issues with the sub. The first thing I do when troubleshooting a sub is to isolate the sub itself. Best way is to connect a 3.5mm to RCA cable from your phone to the RCA inputs on the sub and play some bass heavy music. If you aren’t getting ridiculous spam, reach out to their technical support as the sub may have been damaged in shipping.

@donschmid3003 4 года назад

Would be nice to see them side by side for size.

@nerdinside8242 4 года назад

Youthman for PRESIDENT!!!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Haha

@LoganDec01 4 года назад

Great review as always. Bottom line.. if you go with the monolith, don’t bother going dual. It would just way too much for a typical family theatre room.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Haha for sure. One reason you might want to have dual subs is to provide smoother base response throughout multiple seating positions

@mohammedisaa9952 Год назад

Lol..... the "room" would become a speaker box, and the door would be the bass-reflex port, i bet it would sound amazing in the kitchen upstairs, or a bedroom..... 4 of those "monsters" if they made a twin 18" version 😂😂😂😂

@justkiddin1980 4 года назад

I think there is something like a subsonic filter on the SVS, i wonder how those monolith woofers handle those lower frequencies over longer time..

@Youthman 4 года назад

I’m not sure myself

@jeramisterna8923 4 года назад

I haven't checked, does the Monolith have the parametric EQ like the SVS? I was able to get my SVS 16 at a .3dB variance from 13Hz to 45Hz in my room.

@Youthman 4 года назад

No EQ with the Monolith. No app. But a MiniDSP would be way more beneficial than the SVS DSP

@jeramisterna8923 4 года назад

@@Youthman Youthman I figured as much. I was making sure to level set as far as room optimization. The SVS allows for 3 parametric adjustments, but I definitely see the usefulness of a more dedicated adjustment tool. I haven't gotten the miniDSP yet, but am definitely curious what the performance would be with additional adjustment points. Hopefully I can level the output out past 45Hz.

@brucecarter6205 4 года назад

As was mentioned already...plug 1 port on the PB16 and this test would look very different. Might be a good idea to mention this caveat up front.

@Youthman 4 года назад

The goal of this was to try and keep as many variables the same (levels, position of sub, position of mic, and both subs with ports opened). You are correct. By sealing one port on the PB16, this test would have looked very different. The output increased output on the PB16 below 20Hz would have caused a decrease in output below 20Hz which would have made the Monolith have a higher output across the entire frequency response.

@brucecarter6205 4 года назад

Just mention it is all. The ability to alter your frequency curve is a major strength of the PB16 and you failed to even mention it. Obviously the Monolith with double the drivers and cabinet volume has more overall output. We don’t need this test to show us that. The overall frequency response is far more useful info.

@AR-kw1gf 4 года назад

Hi Michael do you know much about these speakers. Klipsch KL-6504-THX Select2 In-Wall L/C/R Speaker

@jimbert50 4 года назад

Love the intro! Have a question though. Why does the Monolith have way more dip in the 40-50 Hz range than the SVS? Does it have something to do with having 2 subs? I wouldn't think so, since the wavelength in that range is around 25 feet, so there shouldn't be be any significant phase difference between the 2 subs. So maybe due to the difference in the location of the subs in the Monolith vs. the SVS and the effects of that in your room? Sort of like a room placement issue.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Honestly I’m not sure. Both subs were placed in the same location with their front baffles at the edge of my riser.

@Ctripp2448 4 года назад

jimbert50 yes it is height mode from room. Since the second driver is higher up from floor

@HeathsHobbyLobby 4 года назад

Would have liked to know how the THX-1200-SW SUBWOOFER Compared to these

@Youthman 4 года назад

I wasn’t impressed with it

@dennisbohner6876 4 года назад

When I was young, so many years ago, I found one and only one constant in determining quality of reproductive devices. (This does not apply to my very personal equipment.) The ability to reproduce Square waves. I sold Harmon Kardon products and their mantra was frequency response and linearity of amplitude made a GREAT tool to measure audio quality and a good square wave demonstrated success in this. I've seen nothing that countervails this thought. To reproduce an AUDIO square wave is crazy hard, especially as you approach frequency extremes. The bandwidth for a really accurate amplifier regularly exceeds 200 KHZ. Dropping down to the bass region, the opposite must be present to produce a (relatively) undistorted wave form. That is to say, an accurate representation of what is being introduced by the input requires a flat response well below the signal being reproduced. H/K had said at least ten times the signal frequency was needed to do 20 KHZ square waves. Going the opposite way, my guess, flat to 2 HZ to do a proper 20 HZ square wave is necessary. Please do NOT lecture me on the difficulties. I am cognizant.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Not sure why you are expecting a lecture.

@dennisbohner6876 4 года назад

@@Youthman A youngster wanted to inform me that Audioholics was a worthwhile site while disparaging you in comparison and that aligning with you was wrong. I don't need too much of that before I get testy. This exposition is just for informational purposes and I didn't want a clamor from the ill-informed. Your honest comments, based on empirical findings, needed to be defended against fanboys and explained to the righteous..... I find your enthusiasm to be something that should be promoted. Not having every measuring device doesn't negate a physical experience.

@BUZDRIFT 4 года назад

So a pretty standard reaction, where you have double the cone area, Yeah those lows for sure! What about the PB16 Ultra?

@Youthman 4 года назад

What about the PB16 are you asking?

@BUZDRIFT 4 года назад

@@Youthman Just wanting to know if the PB16 Ultra is the PB16 you're referring to?

@Sloimer 4 года назад

SovL:Remedy ???

@darricklowe2206 3 года назад

Hi Youthman, Do you have any comments on the M215 vs any of the JTRs? which JTR is most comparable to the M215, performance wise. Price point I know the monolith is going to be a lot easier on the pockets.

@Youthman 3 года назад

Monolith doesn't have a sub that competes with JTR, in either output or low end extension. My JTR Captivator RS2's were measured flat at 115dB @ 8Hz and they never hit compression.

@davidrivera4289 4 года назад

Let's all remember that it's a comparison to determine dollar value based on Performance results. Based solely on performance, the M 215 indeed is a better value. The better aesthetics and settings flexibility of the Ultra PB16 is also a strong factor to consider. There are subs that will out performs these two, but they cost 2 to 4 times more (see JL Gotham and Paradigm Signature, as examples). Still others are twice the size of the M-215.

@Youthman 4 года назад

David, I'm not sure the JL Gotham would outperform this. I heard one many years ago and was not impressed.

@daveycrockett5738 4 года назад

Does the dual monolith have a warranty on it. Ok the website on the question and answer someone said it has a 5 year warranty on it but I don’t see it anywhere on the website. Also could I buy that subwoofer at any store and not just over the internet?

@Youthman 4 года назад

Monoprice is internet only. You would need to check with them regarding the warranty

@38special4ever 4 года назад

The difference at the null is strange! If placed in the same location they should be similar, or even less (two point sources) on the Monolith (depends on between which walls/ceiling the modes occur). I would also would like to know the difference in sound quality when playing music ... VERY few subs are acceptable for quality music playback.

@Youthman 4 года назад

My channel is primarily Home Theater so unfortunately I don’t do much 2ch listening. I don’t see someone needing this for 2ch. Subs were in the same exact location. Front baffles were placed at the front edge of my riser and against the wall.

@commanderrussels2612 4 года назад

Youthman per 20:11 I think in your room you'd be better with two (or four) smaller subs. Do you have any room behind your rear row to put some subs, something in the back would help out a lot in there! If your rear row is right up against the back wall I wonder if something shallow depth would work well. Thanks for reviewing these.

@Youthman 4 года назад

No room behind my rear seats. Room is only 19’ deep. I can get rid of the nasty null using dual subs behind my screen as seen in this video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eXfH9WH8Yw8.html

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 4 года назад

You need to compare the Monolith 215 with the JTR Captivator RS 2 and see how close the Monolith can get for $1000 less.

@Youthman 4 года назад

I do not have the M-215 any longer to do a direct comparison

@Blanchy101 4 года назад

I currently already have pb3000 should i purchase another and run dual or sell mine and pick up an m215, dual vs single sub

@Youthman 4 года назад

Depends on your need. The Monolith M-215 has ridiculous output and extension

@KipacWF Год назад

So if your reciever goes to 0, and the sub still hasn't reached compression, does that mean i can increase the gain on my sub?

@donjaun540 3 года назад

Good comparison but I got to ask. How much content is in the sub 20hz area? Most people can't hear below 30ish. Plus I wonder how many people want a super big cabinet like the m2. I guess to each there own.

@Youthman 3 года назад

There is quite a bit of content below 20Hz. Massive upgrade going from dual PB16’s to dual JTR Captivator RS2’s. I measured 115dB @ 8Hz. It’s not about what you hear, it’s about feeling it.

@Markkrochuk1979 4 года назад

Youthman, try to get your hands on a Bill Fitzmaurice horn subwoofer.

@toddroy9558 2 года назад

Would the Sub with two speakers be considered One Subwoofer or Two when it’s apart of your surround system?

@Youthman 2 года назад

A subwoofer with two woofers is considered a single subwoofer

@KipacWF Год назад

Also, how do u decide whats the 'optimal' sub gain level without frying it or whatever?

@stevelovesgod 7 месяцев назад

Decibel meter, Measure to listen and here about the max, calibrate the volume know so that you don't max out your subwoofer. You need to determine the max capabilities that the subwoofer can run without stressing the sub or amp. Head room is when you have more than enough bass that your are not even near the max subwoofer output and it's too loud

@jerrytown3792 4 года назад

I wonder, have you ever reviewed some of the tekton speakers or their 4 x 10" sub ?

@Youthman 4 года назад

I haven’t

@jerrytown3792 4 года назад

@@Youthman a friend of mine bought they moab model and he can't stop talking about them, he prefers them to his magnapan speakers. Haven't seen anything concrete about their subs thought.

@ediavd700 4 года назад

Can you review the Monolith 15" (single 15") as well?

@Youthman 4 года назад

I have three or four videos on the channel of that subwoofer

@bustatron Год назад

And that's when the neighbors started gathering torches and pitchforks. 😂

@paulc7572 2 года назад

The monolith spanked that SVS sub buddy

@mdjak3686 2 года назад

If it wasn’t for Michael, there’d be a dearth of info on so many levels. He’s single-handedly placed JTR in front of thousands.

@Youthman 2 года назад

Thank you for the kind words

@commanderrussels2612 4 года назад

That's interesting about the null with the Monolith. Both the SVS and Monolith were tested in the exact same position, right?

@Youthman 4 года назад

Exact position. I get that null with the single SVS behind my screen. Running dual subs behind my screen fixes that - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eXfH9WH8Yw8.html

@brandonpatten5863 4 года назад

Subsonic filter on the SVS? It dips pretty quick!

@Youthman 4 года назад

Yes they add something like that intentionally to take advantage of room gain. At least that’s what it says on their website

@orlandoechevarria8206 4 года назад

Great video! Have you had the chance to test any HSU research products?

@Youthman 4 года назад

No I haven’t heard from them

@orlandoechevarria8206 4 года назад

@@Youthman dang, well idk how far you are from the Orlando area but I can always lend it to you. I have the VTF3 MK5 and it's super solid for the price.

@jjchmiel78 4 года назад

Are you going to get the PSA TV42? I would love to see numbers on that.

@Youthman 4 года назад

No plans as of yet

@nattejmk 4 года назад

My tought was that, But coudent wait so I take the smaller ones, dual psa tv36ipal

@owennikish7995 4 года назад

Love your videos! It may not be possible but you should contact paradigm and ask to review their sub 2.its been in production for 10 years now but they still say it's the best sub in the world.

@Youthman 4 года назад

Unfortunately I'm not sure many in my audience would be willing to pay $9000 for a single subwoofer. Not much of a reason for them to send me one for review.

@Clint3571 4 года назад

What if you EQ the Monolith to match the response of the PB16 and then find compression? I assume that the 20Hz and up spl would increase significantly.

@Youthman 4 года назад

I’m not sure how to do that without something like a MiniDSP

@Clint3571 4 года назад

@@Youthman MiniDSP is exactly what I was thinking. You have all the cool toys so I assumed you had one.

@alelys66 4 года назад

2am 🕑. I'll be here 👌

@Youthman 4 года назад

Awesome!

@johnsmith-qz4bv 4 года назад

great video......are you going to be upgrading to a pair of monolith subs in the future....then do another compairison....?

@Youthman 4 года назад

No, it's getting boxed back up to make room for more reviews.

@johnsmith-qz4bv 4 года назад

@@Youthman thats a bummer...lol....great content

@mikenyots9127 4 года назад

Can't wait

@mr337kj 4 года назад

Would love to see this same test with a full Marty box with um18-22 driver

@Youthman 4 года назад

I’ve heard great things about the Martys

@mr337kj 4 года назад

I'm waiting on my boxes to finish the glue drying process. I'm now scared to see how both will destroy my room. I cant thank you enough for the cool reviews! Much love from south Tx!