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Moog Sub 37 - Tidbits and Tips for the Mod Wheel 

ProckGnosis
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Two examples of how to use the mod wheel to 1) control the amount of vibrato and 2) change the filter cutoff. Easy enough to do, though not as obvious as one might think.

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@swiftmello123
@swiftmello123 5 лет назад
Really enjoy your videos. Never too fast always calm and informative. Appreciate what you do.
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 5 лет назад
Thanks much. Happy to hear.
@johnmiller19925
@johnmiller19925 5 лет назад
Glad I finally stumbled upon your videos about Sub37... Took me what, five years since I got it, but I’ve made it!😅 These videos show me a side of Sub37 I wasn’t able to crack open myself, especially the sequencer! Thank you very much!
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 5 лет назад
Glad they helped you out. When I first did this video, it didn't get too many views (especially compared to the Sub 37 sequencer tutorial), so I thought a lot of people didn't care too much about programming the mod wheel, but the number of views have been steady and actually increased a bit over the last year, so it's good to hear it's helping.
@domithebassist8049
@domithebassist8049 3 года назад
thanks, i was looking for hours for how to do filter sweeps with the moodwheel. You are the coolest dude on the internet :)
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 3 года назад
Vielen Dank! Freut mich es ist dir nützlich. Cheers!
@beatsbyjc
@beatsbyjc 4 года назад
Awesome vid. This is exactly what I was looking for
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 4 года назад
Cool...very glad it helped.
@IconicPhotonic
@IconicPhotonic 7 лет назад
Thanks for the tips! And I was happy to see the mention of In Bruges - easily my favourite movie!
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
If you haven't seen Seven Psychos, that's pretty hilarious as well (same guy made it). Dark, yes, but still hilarious.
@IconicPhotonic
@IconicPhotonic 7 лет назад
ProckGnosis I have seen it too. It's also a great movie! Although not quite on the same level as In Bruges for me. Thanks again for doing all these videos! I decided to buy a Sub 37 over a Dave Smith synth in part because of your comparison of the filters. Also, I was having trouble with the menus for the sources and destinationsnon the most busses and your video really helped
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
Glad it helped. I admit, the biggest selling point for me on Dave Smith is the polyphony. If Dave only made mono synths, I think Moog would have the edge, but so far Moog refuses to do a polyphonic synth (unfortunately), so I'm grateful for DSI. That and as much as I like the Mopho or Tetra, I think the Prophet 6 and OB6 are even better. I would be surprised if Moog could make a polyphonic I enjoy more than the OB6, but I would love to see them try!
@NathanielFriend
@NathanielFriend 7 лет назад
Such a big help! Means a lot, thank you
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
Awesome...glad it helped.
@ferdinandrauchmann3364
@ferdinandrauchmann3364 7 лет назад
thanks for this awesome video! I am looking forward to your next Sub 37 vid :)
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
Vielen Dank und gern geschehen! Not sure when the next Sub 37 vid will be...lots of other synths to play with as well. Also not sure what I would cover. Was schlägst du vor?
@ferdinandrauchmann3364
@ferdinandrauchmann3364 7 лет назад
ProckGnosis bravo, tolles Deutsch! No worry, take your time, I got my 1st synth (sub 37) 2 days ago and your videos really helped me a lot! if you want, you could do a video about the envelope generators for example, this would be great! Danke!
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
Ich sollte Deutsch viel besser sprechen weil ich in Deutschland wohne. Ja, Englisch ist meine Muttersprache, aber nach 10 Jahre in Deutschland, mein Deutsch ist funktionell aber leider nicht fliessend. Na ja, so geht's. Und guter Vorschlag. Das kann sein wenn ich genug Zeit habe. Cheers!
@samprock
@samprock 6 лет назад
Interesting, Sam Prock, who recently got Moog 37 CV, discoveres ProckGnosis channel and learning more procktology :) Great and relaxing vid, bro! Subbed :)
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 6 лет назад
Lol...Prock-n-Roll!!
@samprock
@samprock 6 лет назад
hah that's a new one! finally some prockgress in building better dictionary :)
@wafflestoast5228
@wafflestoast5228 5 лет назад
This is hilarious.
@Ambient.Music.Studio
@Ambient.Music.Studio Год назад
I love the Moog Sub 37. However, Moog has had some quality issues with the filter cutoff pots going bad, that happened to my 2022 model. Using the mod-wheel for filter sweeps might be a great way to not have to turn the big filter cutoff knob which might avoid premature wear and tear of the cutoff potentiometer. Thanks for sharing this!
@Waxlimbs
@Waxlimbs 3 года назад
Thanks for the breakdown, I was tearing my hair out trying to understand some of the naming conventions in the controllers menu!
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 3 года назад
Damn...thought I replied to this already. Very glad it helped. Yeah, I've come to the conclusion Moog makes some great sounding gear, but the digital side (the menu-diving process on their gear) isn't one of their strengths. And you're in Toronto? Great town. Would love to go back and spend some more time there.
@Waxlimbs
@Waxlimbs 3 года назад
@@ProckGnosis Totally. And yep, Toronto can be fun! Hopefully you get a chance to come back :)
@raskinlex
@raskinlex 6 лет назад
thank you very much, streight to the target, very helpful
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 6 лет назад
Thanks. Very glad it helped.
@jeffkerestes
@jeffkerestes 7 лет назад
Great video. Thanks for the help! Cheers!
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
Glad it helped. Though nothing too difficult, both examples weren't quite as straight forward to explain as I thought they would be.
@JorgeLezana_cl
@JorgeLezana_cl Год назад
Exelente tutorial Gracias... Desde Chile
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis Год назад
¡De nada!
@wolfpackpresets
@wolfpackpresets 3 года назад
Cool tips, thanks!
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 2 года назад
Awesome! Glad it was helpful...that's why I made it.
@LerLoons
@LerLoons 6 лет назад
there is an easy way to link any parameter to the mod source . 1. go to dest on mod 1 . 2. click the dest button until it cycles to the last option , EG time/ pmg . 3. when the EG time / pmg light it on , click and hold the dest button and then move the parameter you would like to control . 4. use mod amount to change the amount of modulation sent to the dest . 5. this can be used for mod 2 also .
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 6 лет назад
Sweet...thanks for the info. Given the digital OS, I would have suspected something like this existed (or could be programmed), but I never ran across any specific tips for it. Thanks much.
@N.A._McBee
@N.A._McBee 5 лет назад
@@ProckGnosis Nevertheless, this method to use the modulation wheel for the filter cutoff, is not documented in the manual, and as you said: This is no obvious thing to do! And for this reason I'd like to send a huge (!) thank you to you for sharing this knowledge! I own the Subsequent 37, and I think that this is a most valuable information for all owners of these synths!
@Indianabones007
@Indianabones007 Год назад
I don’t think you need to even switch to EG , I think you only need to press the dest button and move parameter!
@leonardovmusic
@leonardovmusic 3 года назад
Thank you for this.
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 3 года назад
My pleasure and glad it helped.
@tricks-and-tips
@tricks-and-tips 4 года назад
Very interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing / making
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 4 года назад
Dank je wel! Het is een heel cool instrument en niet te moilijk te verstaan.
@tricks-and-tips
@tricks-and-tips 4 года назад
@@ProckGnosis :) Did you just answer in Dutch?
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 4 года назад
Lol...well, if you ARE Dutch, I just wanted to practice a bit, but if you're NOT, all I said was "Thanks. It's a very cool instrument and not too difficult to understand". And my Dutch language skills don't go much beyond that omdat Ik heb te veel vergeten.
@tricks-and-tips
@tricks-and-tips 4 года назад
@@ProckGnosis I'm 100% Dutch :) so no problem at all! I was just curious if you did this or Google did some kind of A-B test on me :) You have been living in Holland?
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 4 года назад
No, I just noticed you had an NL extension on your channel URL. I was curious about your channel name. I took a few Dutch classes at the university because my German was already ok, and I was curious about the language). Later in the late 90s, I actually lived a few years in Germany pretty close to the Dutch border.
@IsaacGonzalezChams
@IsaacGonzalezChams 7 лет назад
Thanks man. Helpful stuff.
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
Cool and glad it was helpful...
@brianobush
@brianobush 8 лет назад
Thanks for this!
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 8 лет назад
You're welcome. Cheers!
@fraserglendinning194
@fraserglendinning194 5 лет назад
Great info. many thanks for that. Any other tips on the Subsequent 37 apreciated :)
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 5 лет назад
Glad it helped. To be honest, sadly I haven't played with it much in the last year or two. Keep getting distracted by other new synths.
@jakeelliott6855
@jakeelliott6855 6 лет назад
thank you
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 6 лет назад
No prob. It's always good to help folks understand stuff.
@grandmasterjo1
@grandmasterjo1 7 лет назад
Sweet helpful and thanx
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
Thanks and glad it helped...
@erikgoransson9391
@erikgoransson9391 6 лет назад
Great stuff! Maybe you could do a similar videon on how to add aftertouch too a sound? I'm getting crazy over here lol
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 6 лет назад
Sorry...likely won't be doing a vid for it anytime soon, but I suspect it's just selecting an "aftertouch" option instead of "mod wheel". I'd suggest looking at the manual. If I run across the specifics on how to do it, I'll add to this comment. Cheers.
@jasonbarton9352
@jasonbarton9352 6 лет назад
5:20 is where there is like some 70s magic happening-nice
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 6 лет назад
Isn't it? And that's part of why I love synths...
@josefatlestam
@josefatlestam 7 лет назад
HI, great tutorial. I wonder, how can I control the pitch AMT ONLY, (don't want the mod wheel to control any other parameter such as lo rate etc. Thanks
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
Hmm...not sure what you're asking. Do you mean to entirely control the pitch with the mod wheel? To use the mod wheel more like a pitch wheel?
@josefatlestam
@josefatlestam 7 лет назад
Yeah, I want to control pitch amt on Mod 1 only, NOT affect the lfo rate etc. I didn't find a way to do that, any ideas?
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
I don't have it in front of me to test, but the steps should be exactly like the second example (at 06:14), except you dial in the pitch amount (with the PITCH AMT knob) instead of the filter amount knob (FILTER AMT).
@_0O0O0O0_
@_0O0O0O0_ 4 года назад
2:45 if you came here to learn how to setup the Mod Wheel
@MattHines
@MattHines 6 лет назад
How can you do what you did with mod wheel controlling filter with volume?
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 6 лет назад
If I'm understanding your question correctly, you should be able to use the second "Mod Section" to control the overall amplitude or volume, while the first Mod Section controls the filter. There is a modulation destination of "OUT VOL:" that should work for that purpose.
@madbaldscotsman
@madbaldscotsman 7 лет назад
Bruges: The world capital of beer, chocolate, and lingerie. What's not to like?
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 7 лет назад
Oh yeah...
@tkexit
@tkexit 2 года назад
where do you do this in the VST editor? gotta be an easy way right?
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 2 года назад
Don't know...I've never worked with the editor. Once I figured out the menu diving, it seemed easy enough.
@elmortobeats5919
@elmortobeats5919 6 лет назад
Beer and moog? Sign me up! Subbing! How can I add an extra osc to the sub via cv? And what products would you recommend? I've heard that it's possible. But don't know how.
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 6 лет назад
Hey EMBHHB...sorry for the slow response. If I'm understanding what you're asking, the Sub 37 has an "external audio in" jack. Just pick another synth (for example a Moog Slim Phatty or some other module), and run the output from the extra synth into the "external audio in" jack of the Sub 37. Then connect midi out from the Sub 37 into the module (it would need to have midi in, of course) to ensure the extra oscillator is played in synch with the Sub 37 oscillators. Now ALL that being said, I haven't tested that exactly, but it should work because... ...it is basically what I did on this video but I used a couple Dreadbox synths instead of Moogs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dKh9OP3kRJI.html The Dreadbox Hades provides an extra oscillator for the Dreadbox Erebus, it runs through the Erebus filter, and MAN does it sound great.
@elmortobeats5919
@elmortobeats5919 6 лет назад
ProckGnosis wow that easy?i will try this tomorrow. now I regret selling the system 1 with cv. Mixed with my moog could be epic. I love the sound and look of the dreadbox, but can you save patches? And do you know about an cheap but funky synth for that extra osc? Thanks.
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 6 лет назад
Heck...take your pick now. Really depends on your requirements (how much you want to pay, how big/small you want it to be, how many oscillators, etc). Lots of options for an extra oscillator (or 2 or 3) coming up now. Korg Monologue, Novation Bass Station II, used Dreadbox Hades or Erebus, Behringer Model D, Behringer Neutron, used Slim Phatty etc. Most of those would be less than $400.
@elmortobeats5919
@elmortobeats5919 6 лет назад
ProckGnosis I'm curious about model d.bass station is funky and cheap too. Thanks for the tips.
@axelsveberg2219
@axelsveberg2219 2 года назад
Does anyone know if its possible to the same on a sub 25? and if so, how? :)
@danielkats9045
@danielkats9045 6 лет назад
Kom hier voor een tutorial nu heb ik zin in bier :")
@ProckGnosis
@ProckGnosis 6 лет назад
Graag gedaan!
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