Moog SUBSEQUENT 25 Review, tutorial and patch ideas // SUB 25

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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:15 Duophony
2:10 Overview
4:25 Hidden params
7:10 The filter
10:20 Oscillators
14:45 Mixer
15:45 Envelopes
17:20 LFO
20:35 App
--------- PATCH IDEAS
22:10 Chords
23:30 FM Bells
24:15 Duo tips
25:30 Bi-timbral duo
26:35 Arpeggiator
27:35 Randomizer
28:55 Pros & cons
30:40 Outro jam
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Комментарии : 503

@TheoVoidTV 4 года назад

I love that thing you're playing in the beginning. So epic!

@hitthesynth6417 4 года назад

It must be such an honor to be this close with Moog and almost be the first informed on their product (and first to touch!) Nice job man as always!

@durrgaga 4 года назад

An excellent review as usual - thanks. As an existing Subsequent 37 owner it is interesting to see some of the 37's features spilling over onto this 25.

@KaiBurley 3 года назад

That arpeggiator workaround is genius! Would have taken me way too long to think of that. Thanks!

@lancethrustworthy 4 года назад

I salute you. You're doing it the right way. Show and tell. You're twisting lots of knobs; just want we want. Bravo.

@m.g.kroger 4 года назад

As usual, your explanations are a mine of treasures. Thanks!!

@AFloodofSolaceJohnWhigham 2 года назад

Very informative and excellent video. Thank you. Most of this is over my head, but I am learning. You make this instrument manageable and even more interesting.

@12copablo 4 года назад

Great filter, and excellent filter demo!

@jemski 4 года назад

Thank you, your channel is excellent and incredibly helpful!

@imperialimperialimperial 4 года назад

Great walkthrough as always

@roughwaters777 Год назад

Amazing intro to this instrument! Thanks!

@macfid 11 месяцев назад

Just got mine. Totally new to it... and this is very helpful. Thank you.

@geoffreymerrifield5666 4 года назад

Sounds awesome with nice features.

@ChrisWoodBandit 2 года назад

holy crap that was an outstanding review of an instrument. thank you so much for doing this.

@MyVideos-fm7ug Месяц назад

You’re insane… this guy is insufferable . I can’t make it through this video

@digitaldiezel5870 4 года назад

Moog Products are excellent! I only have a Sirin, and even though other products have more features overall when I use it, it feels perfect and complete! The software is very nice and the midi integration works very well.

@faderfox1452 4 года назад

the new little Faderfox EC4 seems to be a perfect companion for the new little moog :)

@nym053 4 года назад

Sounds great. An improvement over the Sub Phatty. I'm actually considering switching my Mono Lancet out with this for the few extras like the filter drive and pink noise. And for the input to process samples sent from Elektron boxes.

@420gravy4 4 года назад

I loved the Subsequent 37 from the first note I played on it. Having a version that fits in carry-on luggage is a major bonus! Thanks for posting !

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 4 года назад

I was very sad at the end of 2019, but your new video has cheered me up for 2020, THANK YOU! I was saving for a SubPhatty, then at the end of 2019 they went out of production...good to know Moog upgraded it and now with just a little more money I can buy this one.

@fortheloveofnoise9298 4 года назад

Buy a used one....germs are ok.

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 4 года назад

@@fortheloveofnoise9298 Used ones cost more than new ones unless you know someone personally. The prices on ebay are ridiculous. Also I want the guarantee with my synth, can't afford to fix one after buying used and then have a synth that cost more used than new after repair. Just not worth the hassles...I will keep saving.

@konradhausmann6359 4 года назад

@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene they are like 450-500€ in germany

@tecschooldropout Год назад

I've had my sub25 for a few months now. I use it exactly like you suggested in the pros/cons, next to a computer, alongside push 2, and it works perfectly for my workflow and space. Very glad I didn't opt for the sub37, as great as that synth is, this review really helped me make that decision and I'm really glad with how it has turned out. If I needed something more standalone, then the sub37 would have been totally worth it, but a computer is a key part of my workflow and it's super convenient with the sub25 without paying for anything I didn't need. Sub25 is a nice size to take to jam with friends too.

@Itaketoomanypics Год назад

same same. and i got mine from reverb used for 650 during summer 2020 and now its worth double

@Grant82gc Год назад

precisely why i can't justify the 37..

@jackmomma7481 11 месяцев назад

@@Itaketoomanypicssee, that’s where this video has me fucked up. I refuse to use MIDI or any kind of digital interface. It’s cheating, straight up. And they’re difficult to operate and understand

@microbug3487 4 года назад

Great review and great sound. Moog really should do a module version of this as a successor of the slim phatty

@theweirdgreen 3 года назад

Hell yes great tutorial!

@glenallan6279 4 года назад

I’ve always wanted you to do a video on the Subsequent 37. This is definitely not that, but glad to see the Phatty evolve into a bit more full circle from starting this sound engine family :)

@glenallan6279 4 года назад

As in also PLEASE do a video for the Subsequent 37!!! Especially the CV model. I know it’s not new, but it’s a damn beast and you are one of the best at illustrating its features and capabilities.

@whenvioletsturngrey9597 4 года назад

Great review,! Thank you! Might need one....

@amfimoll9428 3 года назад

What a cool review!

@janne-seta 4 года назад

I'll wait for the Subsequent 13 :)

@JakeSweeper 3 года назад

If they go that low, then they ought to drop the keyboard altogether and make a Sub-Desk. Would shave quite a few bucks off the price tag at any rate. :)

@barrnycharlton8951 3 года назад

want to go half’s and take a VCO each

@janne-seta 3 года назад

@@barrnycharlton8951 Hehe, we'd be missing one key, though!

@litechaos3237 3 года назад

It’s not a smaller version of the sub 37

@litechaos3237 3 года назад

It’s a newer sub phatty

@geoffreymerrifield5666 3 года назад

As always, outstanding info and review. How I wish it was a 32 or 37 key synth.

@jamescrofts7747 Год назад

Dear sir. I want to thank you so much for this incredibly informative video. I had so many questions about the subsequent 25 that I could not find answers to, and you covered them all completely . I should have watched your video first. Lol Thank you.

@loopop Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@JohanWave 4 года назад

Cool! Really nice demos with great info and sounds examples. I might get this for live playing, as a complement for electric bass on stage. Seems to be a great synth.

@kevteop 4 года назад

Look up the weight first. I have a Sub 37 and it's 10kg. It was a big shock as a second synth having gigged as a bass guitarist with a Bass Station 2. I never took the Sub 37 out!

@JohanWave 4 года назад

@@kevteop Thanks for letting me know. I'm gigging with the bass station 2 right now, so I might think about this aspect before buying.

@robertsyrett1992 4 года назад

Such a cute little baby moog!

@NicholasGreenwood 4 года назад

Coming into the year 2020, I have to wonder if Moog may be working on a synth to bridge the gap between the Matriarch (at $2K) and the Moog One (at $6-8K). It feels like they made the Subsequent 25 quickly in order to buy more time to work on something else. Though I do really like the multidrive sounds, selectable filter poles, and the software editor feature.

@ChazSeamus28 4 года назад

Whoa.. this is perfect

@RasMike24 4 года назад

I sold my Grandmother to buy this. While I miss her, I really love the 25. It's size is perfect for gigging and only using it for reggae and hip hop basslines. It has a giant, aggressive sound and I love it. (Edit: I returned the Sub25 after three weeks and re-bought a Grandmother)

@wolfbeard1532 3 года назад

You sold your grandmother for a synth? Like as a slave? Lol

@carlosdrfx 3 года назад

Some people really would do anything for new gear! 😂

@unknownembassy 3 года назад

@@wolfbeard1532 He means the Moog grandmother ☠️

@wolfbeard1532 3 года назад

@@unknownembassy 😆 I know that Riley, thank you 😂❤

@bangmateo7481 3 года назад

Is this enough you think?

@LuctaeMusic 4 года назад

A great review, as always! Thank you very much... I am wondering why on earth Moog didn't use labels for the shift functions. They should have taken an example of Novation's Bass Station 2!

@ulzman3581 4 года назад

Great ! Thank you !!! I wished, you could do this video again for the Moog Subsequent 37.

@fuenstock 4 года назад

For me the moog plugin app is what makes their synths really shine for me in a daw workflow.

@anthonypatterson8796 3 года назад

exactly and they're free, unlike the 3rd party plugin app I had to buy for my Rev2 which I hope doesn't lose support.

@TheSupergan 4 года назад

I wonder if anyone at Moog thought about doing a subsequent 37 desktop version instead of building a baby and limited subsequent

@st0rmchild 4 года назад

I wish they would do more desktop versions. I don't need more keyboards.

@rdean150 4 года назад

This. I would buy a (rackable) desktop subsequent in a heartbeat. I got a Slim Phatty in hopes of achieving this, and while it does sound excellent, it falls short in a number of ways, most obviously the lack of sequencer, but also the envelopes, mod routing options, etc. But it's LED-ringed knobs mean you can actually tell where your values really after switching presets, which is one of the few flaws with the Subsequent. Unrelated - I'd be interested to know if I could send my Subsequent in to Moog for a CV outs upgrade. I've regretted not getting the CV version for a long time.

@digitaldiezel5870 4 года назад

Its not a limited Subsequent...its an enhanced Sub Phatty.

@rdean150 4 года назад

@@digitaldiezel5870 Sub 37 evolves into Subsequent 37. Sub Phatty should evolve into... Sub Phatrick? Subsequent Phatricia? Sir Subsequent Derbyshire Phattingsworth II, Esq. ?

@snake_eyes_garage 4 года назад

@@rdean150 Several years ago I sent my Slim Phatty to get a health check when I felt like the tuning was not at all predictable. I emailed Amos on my Slim Phatty and he said 'send it in with a note of what you want us to do'. I think most of the work they will do is 'off the menu' but just email them and ask if it is something they will do.

@Stakkeroid 4 года назад

This inspired me to whip out the Sub 37 and make some new sounds, so thanks :-)

@buhlir Год назад

I just got my sub25, I knew the sun phatty pretty well. But it’s been years since I had it, and I can’t thank you enough for all this! I am so unbelievably excited to dive into all those ideas you gave us! Thanks again!

@arthurcrime 2 года назад

Having been a synthesist for 45 years now, this was a stunningly great overview & review. I only wish this tech was available back when I had my sh5, my university had a vcs3 so I was spoiled. Thanks for your most excellent work.

@MyVideos-fm7ug 7 месяцев назад

I thought it was horrible. He’s using that as a MIDI controller, for one. And two, this guy seems to assume everyone viewing has pre-existing background knowledge. He moves way to fast. And the SOB doesn’t even bother explaining the CV inputs function. And still, a lot of assuming of extensive knowledge… this guys a sham

@valerecoignet 3 года назад

Perfect video ❤️

@dragosfrangulea6447 4 года назад

I read in the manual that, even though the keyboard itself doesn't have aftertouch, the synth engine does, so you can get that as well if you control it from a keyboard with aftertouch. I don't understand why they didn't make the keyboard aftertouch compatible, but I guess it's better than not having it at all.

@kappyLV 4 года назад

As I kick left hand bass in my band, it has a lot of possibilities. Having a small stage footprint with the classic Moog bass is very desirable. The keyboard size is just right and patch recall is necessary for me. My only issue with it is it has no aftertouch. Being able to do modulation or pitch bend from the keyboard is really important to me since I don’t have a hand free to operate the wheels. Not sure I can get past that limitation.

@schnidelwutz333 4 года назад

That patch in the beginning/ end sounds wonderful! Could you explain, how you achieved it? And great video as always, thanks!

@loopop 4 года назад

Thanks! It's a duophonic patch - the main elements are a looping amp envelope creating the rhythmic core and the LFO slowly sweeping the filter and wave shape. Octaves are spread apart to create a spread between the high and low notes

@Mclennnan Год назад

Love these tutorials!

@crimsonweather 4 года назад

Love your demos, v unbiased and to the point I just wish it had the sequenccer , it would have been really nice

@dorbid 4 года назад

Mostafa El-Sayed no Arpeggiator or sequencer is pretty unforgivable really

@MrDschiesus 4 года назад

get the sub37 - it got everything and more

@louderup 4 года назад

Never in my life have I seen a premium synth I needed less.

@bobyatron7525 4 года назад

IMO Moog stuff is less worth its price the lower you go. $1500 for a Sub37 isn't terrible IMO. $850 looks like it's going to be the price for the Sub 25, and for that money you can get something with a lot more to offer. $600 for a mother 32 seems ludicrous to me, especially considering the Behringer synths competing with it. I got very lucky and had a guy sell me a barely used Subsequent 37 for $800. Can't picture myself spending that same money and getting this. Grandmother seems way more worthwhile.

@MrDschiesus 4 года назад

@@bobyatron7525 nah, man. the subsequent 37 def is the best bargain you get of all the moogs and it is on the lower end of the spectrum.

@bobyatron7525 4 года назад

I agree it's prob the best value, but there are only a couple moogs that are still in production that are pricier aren't there? The One and the Matriarch. What else? Btw to avoid confusion - that last paragraph in my above comment, I meant that I couldn't picture myself spending $800 or so for the Sub 25.

@fortheloveofnoise9298 4 года назад

@@MrDschiesus Sub 37 > Subsequent 37

@MrDschiesus 4 года назад

@@fortheloveofnoise9298 sub 37 got replaced in the production by subsequent 37? and why would i pass on all the improvements?

@station2station544 4 года назад

thumbs up given for a synth I don't need. But enjoyable to watch. Thanks for the review.

@wes2819 2 года назад

very clear tutorial, thnx

@Soundsauca 4 года назад

I really like the Moog sound & this has appeal compared to the Behringer stuff due to patch recall. The plugin is also useful. I think this would have been “complete” with an lcd. Simplicity is great, but not at the expense of usability.

@notactuallysean 3 года назад

What program are you using to view the waveforms? Awesome video btw!! Encouraged me to pull the plug and buy one

@unisonosc1617 8 дней назад

the narrow pulse hard sync sounded killer.

@halcyo Год назад

The Moog Taurus tone is, from what I understand, derived from those peculiarities regarding oscillator beating and the way it always retriggers. Sounds like those features are obtainable on this then, huh? Love me some of that huge Taurus bass!

@nicolasstrawberry4148 3 года назад

Just bought one a couple of weeks ago, I love it. Personally I could care less about all the criticism, especially in this comment section, lol. It’s sounds amazing in person and well worth the money I spent on it. I’d say before you listen to someone who doesn’t own one or have hands on experience with one, go to a music store and try it yourself and formulate your own opinion.

@TheOriginalKendo Год назад

Great information

@TheOriginalKendo Год назад

Great information thank you for the tips. My Wife bought me one ( sub 25) for Christmas

@loopop Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@TheNewNumberTw0 4 года назад

I like this thing but I'm pretty happy that I got a Sub Phatty on sale because of it. It's not perfect by any means but It works for the way I use a synth on stage in my band. The sound is really great and it is super tweakable in a live setting.

@McN4styFilth 4 года назад

Gotta pay the premium for the extra warmth added by that wood.

@McN4styFilth 4 года назад

@Divinital Whoa now calm down there buddy I don't know if I can handle being responsible for burning down a rundown bar from all the warmth produced by Behringer Pauly D.

@Zemael 4 года назад

This is the Sub I wanted. Hope to afford two. Yes, I can't help myself.

@nectariosm 4 года назад

The massive pitch/mod wheel section is good for resting your elbow when facepalming your self for spending all that cash for this. Only joking...well kinda...they could have allocated a smaller pitch/mod wheel section to fit more keys, or even better... make a rackmountable/desktop version that drops the ludicrous price, for something like this.

@emmas.h386 3 года назад

Thanks for the arp hack!

@geoffreymerrifield5666 4 года назад

Love your videos. Your Bandcamp cd is great too!!

@loopop 4 года назад

Thanks very much!

@steveturner1815 4 года назад

Great video. I’m a little bit in two minds for the product as I own a sub 37 already. It would be really cool if they had allowed separate modular patch use of, for example, the filter, as I think the moog filters are among the very best around. 25 keys isn’t much it would be great to see a desktop only version of this. I also really like the little cord progression you played at the end.

@pierre-antoinegauthier5620 Год назад

Thanks for the tutorial. Very good as always ! I'm looking to upgrade my Sub Phatty to Sub 25. Is it me or it sounds better than the Sub 37 ? I've listen to many videos about the Sub 37 and I never seem to like his sound as much as I like the sound of the Sub 25 (or Sub Phatty). Do you have a preference yourself ? ?

@euporiicamusic41 4 года назад

I really enjoyed this video it is definitely the best demo of the sub 25 I have one on the way and was wondering if I could ask a few questions, which midi controller are you using in this video and which Arpeggiator plugin are you using?

@loopop 4 года назад

Thanks - EC4 and Ableton Arp - see links in the description for the EC4

@JustDoIt-xq9pi 12 дней назад

Imagine this synth having motorised encoders like the Melbourne Nina. 😍 Let's call it Subsequent 25+ and smack a display on it as well. If not than I would love to see an update that uses the LED's above the octave buttons to show the position of the pots when you touch them. 😺

@scottasin 4 года назад

gotta say, the random doesn't seem totally random. more like a ramp wave with S&H... or maybe a sine ot triangle modulating a ramp. theres a bit of repeating crescendo effect I think

@LimGiong 4 года назад

Thanks.

@philsgambelluri7225 3 года назад

Great video! Is there a way to attach a filter envelope to oscillator 2 only? I’m trying to recreate the classic hard sync lead sound and having some trouble.

@richardday1262 3 года назад

I own a pro 3...Do you think I'd benefit from adding one of these to my sound palette?

@ohtobeforgiven 4 года назад

I came here because knowingly, loopop explains tutorials so well and graciously provides the layout on the left. Any plans for a Subsequent 37 tutorial?

@loopop 4 года назад

I'd like to but there's so much coming it's not likely in the near future

@ohtobeforgiven 4 года назад

Hey that’s good news too! Thanks again👍

@effext1 4 года назад

I think Moog made a mistake calling it a Subsequent 25. Everyone is comparing it to a Sub 37 when it’s just the new Sub Phatty.

@syntheseyez3577 4 года назад

Ya i wasnt even thinking about the sub phatty. Thought it was a smaller sub37. Looks more like the 37 also

@hulkslayer626 4 года назад

@@syntheseyez3577 you are correct. They released the Sub Phatty. Then they came out with the Subsequent 37, which is a Sub Phatty with all the controls on the front panel instead of the "hidden features" the Sub Phatty had... and now they went backwards lol

@rdean150 4 года назад

@@hulkslayer626 After the Sub Phatty came the *Sub* 37, which had a few more (significant) features than the Sub Phatty, particularly duophony, a sequencer, a second LFO and an incredibly useful screen. I've gotta admit though, I just looked through the Sub Phatty manual and you're right that it does actually have a LOT more of the same features than the front panel indicates. They seem like a bit of a pain to activate compared to the 37, but that's probably an acceptable tradeoff for the healthy cost savings for a great many people. But I digress - after Sub Phatty came the Sub 37 as the next tier in the Phatty line. Then a few years later came the Subsequent 37 as an upgrade/replacement for the Sub 37. And now we get the Subsequent 25 presumably as a replacement for the Sub Phatty. At first I found the shift in naming convention a little misleading. But tbh, after your comment prompted me to read the Phatty manual, it seems much more reasonable to highlight just how similar the Sub Phatty (and its successor) is to the Sub 37 (and its successor). And I'm sure it sounds amazing as well, as does the entire Phatty family

@yqsl7726 2 года назад

Or new Model D

@ainsbass 2 года назад

@@syntheseyez3577 It looks more like Sub 37?? Maybe in terms of colour scheme, but it has the exact same control layout as the Sub Phatty.

@baltergeistsound8366 4 года назад

What about the CV inputs? Can it be externally sequenced via CV? It looks like it pitch and KB In, and CV control over the filter as well. Trying to decide if this is the way to go, or go back to where I started with all of this synth nonsense and get another Mother 32.

@LesVegasMusic 3 года назад

Hey! Excellent video! You're a master! What are you using there to show the wave forms and frequency spectrum? Are those actual screens or just screen recordings?

@loopop 3 года назад

Thanks! They're software scopes by Melda overlayed in post

@LesVegasMusic 3 года назад

@@loopop They're great! Thank you!

@mmhcreates 3 года назад

Very cool Arp trick 26:38

@ryans7998 2 года назад

Hi @loopop I’m new to this but I just got a Digitone. Can I use that as an arpeggiator and sequencer for the Sub25? How would I utilize the hold function? Or does that have to go through the software that you showed?

@henryfaceymusic 2 года назад

Great tutorial thank you. I love the intro sound you had before starting. Is that a specific preset or something you made yourself? Would love to know what it is as it sounds amazing. Cheers!

@loopop 2 года назад

Thanks! It's just a simple duophonic patch I made

@jontip 3 года назад

Wonderful review, thank you. Bit of a long shot but do you know if we can open-up\ bypass the Moog’s envelopes to directly send audio into the live granular sampler of the Iridium?

@loopop 3 года назад

Thanks! I think there's a way to keep the envelopes open but it's been a while...

@strangersun7721 4 года назад

Since I just sold my Sub 37 last week after not using it for more than a year, I'm going to disregard loopop's video. He'll make me regret it. I CAN'T LIVE WITH REGRETS.

@snake_eyes_garage 4 года назад

Every time I think of selling my Sub 37 Tribute with plastic Osc pot, Bob says 'don't do it' but he and I will have to discuss this at some point.

@MrDschiesus 4 года назад

you did WHAT?!!!

@danpreston564 4 года назад

As a Sub 37 owner I can only look at this in the light of what it doesn’t have.

@kylechumchal 4 года назад

Dan Preston same

@MJ-tg6wb 4 года назад

Does the Subsequent 37 have a app or companion software? Does it have digital capability to save presets?

@danpreston564 4 года назад

Ella mine (a sub, not a subsequent) has the app and can save 256 presets.

@ThomasLehr 4 года назад

@@MJ-tg6wb Yes it has

@MJ-tg6wb 4 года назад

Dan Preston I had no idea... I just downloaded mine! Game-changer. I love Moog. Thank You

@anthonypatterson8796 3 года назад

As a Subsequent 37 owner, I understand the reticence regarding paying this much for this synth.

@SofaKingNiece 4 года назад

Ordered mine today after watching this demo last night! Really appreciate the video as it is super informative and I’m sure I will be coming back to it many times as I learn the Sub25. I plan on using this with my UAD Moog Plugin for ARP/Sequencer functions. Control the Sub25 with my full size Keyboard/midi controller, and use the included Moog librarian software and I basically end up with a Subsquent37, only with added benefit of 88 weighted keys. Main downside I see to this is having to use software to access all potential, but kind of a non issue for me since I plan to leave this planted in my home studio setup next to my computer. I am also curious to know learn more about how to assign/route various midi controller knobs to the desired parameter on the Sub25, such as the input drive as shown in the video. I use a Komplete Kontrol S88 keyboard/midi controller. It has 9 round knobs, among other buttons, above the keys that I assume can be assigned to do this but haven’t ever tried to do. I have always just used it as a piano/keyboard for virtual instruments. I guess my long winded question is, any advice/links on where to learn about mapping midi controllers such as the Komplete Kontrol S88 to control “hidden” Moog features on the Sub25 or a similar scenario? Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer and again for this awesome video!

@loopop 4 года назад

Thanks! I'd just refer you to the manual of the S88

@SofaKingNiece 4 года назад

loopop that would make sense. Thanks for your reply!

@mitchellgoor6627 4 года назад

I was deciding between the 25 and 37, but the price of the 25 got me. Still, I really miss the arp function, any advice on how you make this work? MIDI is not my strongsuit :) I'm using Presonus Studio One as DAW and have a Kontrol S49. Thanks!

@driftintoblack3759 2 года назад

Is the good for creating saw leads and atmospheric pads?

@TomKaosOfficial 4 года назад

Awesome tutorial, great work. Waiting for mine to come. All the haters are just stuck in a box on creativity/havent even made something worth talking shit about Moog. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@ARCASIAUK 3 года назад

This sounds beautiful - what would you suggest is a good reverb/delay pedal that would compliment this?

@loopop 3 года назад

I'm a fan of H9 which does much more but cheaper ones will do too

@barrnycharlton8951 3 года назад

Can you use eurorack LFO or envelopes for the cv inputs ?

@Tom-vb1gh 4 года назад

This feels like a bit of a stopgap from Moog just so they'd have something to show at NAMM 2020. I'm hoping for something a bit more exciting later in the year ... Still, looks like a cool synth and for £100 or £200 less I'd be sorely tempted.

@davonlabrew2165 3 года назад

What type of midi controller is that on the right? Theres some glitch that messes up the tuning when i connect it to my daw using the plugin 🙄

@dualtrx 4 года назад

Hahaha!. Like i said. I was 100% you have it. :D This is great. Good job.

@hervelegall171 2 года назад

Je viens de recevoir ce Moog Subsequent. J'attends aussi un Moog one, et un Quantum Waldorf. Je possède un Oberheim Matrix 12.

@SorchaSublime 4 года назад

this seems to be a relatively unpopular synth for some reason. im definitely keeping an eye on it personally

@bobyatron7525 4 года назад

I'm sure it's nice. It falls way short in comparisons with its bigger "brother" synth though. If you're lucky and patient you can find someone selling a Sub37 for around the same as what Moog is charging for this synth. With that you get a fantastic amount of modulation routings, a great sequencer, and very close to knob-per-function with the exception of some advanced functions in the sequencer and stuff.

@SorchaSublime 4 года назад

@@bobyatron7525 I mean, yeah im assuming that this is less than its bigger brother, I thought that was the point. and yeah you can get a 37 for cheaper second hand, but the same will apply to the 25 eventually surely?

@thisjustin77 4 года назад

@@SorchaSublime correct. if you want a smaller foot print. this is a good purchase. if you are more into knob per function. then more or less the 37 is the way to go. I personally have a little phatty. I dont mind menu diving but that's just me.

@SorchaSublime 4 года назад

@@thisjustin77 yeah IMO this has a lot of appeal as a little sister system to the 37. Its slightly smaller, slightly different and slightly cheaper.

@OwenModamwen 4 года назад

I played this at Guitar Center. It sounds INCREDIBLE in person

@adWolf15 4 года назад

Hey! What’s this nice reverb you’re using in the intro?

@loopop 4 года назад

Comet by Polyverse

@mrmaramind 3 года назад

I don’t have a computer or external controller. Would the grandmother be a better option?

@BigBadWolf.............. 4 года назад

You do a great job on these reviews. Would you consider doing a review on the original sub 37?

@loopop 4 года назад

Thanks! Yes I would like to get to it at some point, but I have quite a pipeline prior

@glenallan6279 4 года назад

Yes! Times 100! Well... I’d like to see it on the Subsequent 37 CV, but either one would be amazing 😉

@yourfwiend8093 2 года назад

I noticed you edited the local control part. what did you do to get it to turn off? when i click bank 4, bank 2 and patch 1 the keyboard still plays it doesnt turn off.???

@scheissami 3 года назад

What are you using to achieve the waveform oscillator display? I find it super helpful to understand what is happening as you design the patches, would love to use one with all of my gear whenever I'd like but not sure how to accomplish this. I wish more synths would take a note from Korg Minilogue (which I have), this feature is super helpful built right into the synth.

@loopop 3 года назад

Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionaly I’ll use scopes by VCV

@scheissami 3 года назад

@@loopop awesome, thanks for the info! I'll check those out, they sound like a great option I'd love to have a hardware solution, but not into modular so I need to keep my eye out for a used test unit or something. Thanks!

@galeriethorigny3379 4 года назад

Well hello i was wondering if you could share with us with which spectrum analyzer you are using ? I am looking for a clear and precise drum tuning device and your seems perfect.

@loopop 4 года назад

Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionaly I’ll use scopes by VCV

@FanaticHomeVision 2 года назад

how do I bring back audio signal from Moog SUBSEQUENT 25? I just purchased one and the keyboard are not giving sound

@enesbiberoglu 4 года назад

we love ur work ...not like the stuff around here very well explanations about the gear and the tech and music ...thumbs up ...love from istanbul if u ever visit we welcomes :)

@indiefilmcomposer 4 года назад

Question, so is this filter and dynamic range different than the subsequent 37? An improvement? It’s hard to tell in the marketing material and retail sites ......it does sound very good

@loopop 4 года назад

I’ve not compared unfortunately