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Moonlight VS Steam Link [Chromecast with Google TV] (Chromecast Sabrina) 

Selim Hjorthall
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@dvargas3553
@dvargas3553 3 года назад
For anyone wondering, in general Moonlight is faster for Nvidia GPUs, way more smooth and almost no input lag. Use that if you have one and thank me later
@hjorthall
@hjorthall 3 года назад
I recently heard about "Sunshine", moonlight for non-Nvidia GPUs. Maybe a great alternative if you don't have Nvidia.
@Jerome-iwnl
@Jerome-iwnl Год назад
Too bad its getting discontinued for no reason
@dvargas3553
@dvargas3553 Год назад
@@Jerome-iwnl there’s an open source version of nvidias gamestream API called Sunshine which will likely become used (and developed on) much more if this goes through. this is crazy tho, it’s been one of the best features of Nvidia gpus (not to mention the Shield) for years now, a feature I expect and paid for when going with Nvidia. Luckily there’s no guarantee this will affect Moonlight yet, it might still work, so we’ll just have to see. If not, we should expect much more development on the Sunshine github. Crazy tho, if it really goes through I may just sell my Nvidia gpu and go AMD. Well have to see I guess
@Jerome-iwnl
@Jerome-iwnl Год назад
@@dvargas3553 moonlight uses nvidia gamestream. Nvidia is cutting support for gamestream. It’s a guarantee that moonlight will stop working if gamestream is gone. I’m really annoyed that Nvidia would remove this feature that I also paid for. It’s one of the reasons i chose nvidia over amd graphics. So annoying
@Mehdital89
@Mehdital89 Год назад
Can't believe Nvidia will kill gamestream
@NormanTiner
@NormanTiner Год назад
This was one of the videos that got me to switch. I set up Sunshine/moonlight on my Steam Deck and never looked back. I liked how streaming was implemented in the SteamOS UI. That is the only advantage to Steam Remote Play. The disadvantages: random quality drops rendering unplayable, random technical issues like flickering screen, terribly input latency, etc. Every night I wanted to play started with 30 minutes of tinkering with strange issues. I don't know how Valve has such a poor remote play solution but it really is their worst software.
@TheFruitingChamber
@TheFruitingChamber Год назад
Yeah this 100% I just downloaded for streaming from my rig to my laptop hooked into tv for bedtime gaming lol
@sajidahmed4834
@sajidahmed4834 3 месяца назад
Are you streaming from the Steam Deck to a client?
@mikeymyke
@mikeymyke 2 месяца назад
What's the purpose of Sunshine? I thought Moonlight was all is needed to stream?
@justice6234
@justice6234 Месяц назад
​@@mikeymykesunshine for the server, moonlight for the client
@VARIANT3XR
@VARIANT3XR 22 дня назад
@@mikeymyke moonlight doesnt stream
@SpikeTheSpiker
@SpikeTheSpiker 9 месяцев назад
Hey thanks for this video, I randomly found it when browsing the web and I didn't know there was a steam link alternative that had way less input lag, I can now finally games that require low latency on my TV. I'm enjoying Lies of P atm. There's still some lag compared to directly on the pc but it's like 10-20 ms (using sunshine and moonlight) now 40-50. cheers.
@yosefelsawy5102
@yosefelsawy5102 Год назад
for me when i try to move the mouse with steamlink it lags but for moonlight it's very smooth and no input lag or low resolution
@Stopmania
@Stopmania 2 года назад
Hi Selim, I haven't bought a Chromecast with Google TV, so this might be a stupid question. Did you side load Moonlight or was it on the app store to download? If you side loaded it, what was the process? Many thanks for this!
@hjorthall
@hjorthall 2 года назад
It was on the Google play store and is just as easy to download and setup as on an Android phone. Me and 3 friends actually played 4 hours yesterday without hiccups (4 Bluetooth controllers connected to the CCwGT)
@Stopmania
@Stopmania 2 года назад
@@hjorthall Fantastic, thank you for letting me know!
@RemindThemAboutGeorgeFloyd
@RemindThemAboutGeorgeFloyd 2 года назад
@@hjorthall thank you
@charleyu5506
@charleyu5506 Год назад
@@hjorthall Just want to double check, will the stadia controllers work on the CCwGT?
@hjorthall
@hjorthall Год назад
@@charleyu5506 I have 2 stadia controllers working fine with my CCwGTV. Remember, they will have to be updated to have Bluetooth functionality.
@muratcosar6303
@muratcosar6303 Месяц назад
dunno why but appletv steam link works much better than appletv moonlight.
@BigBoyDuckie
@BigBoyDuckie 4 месяца назад
gread vid, simple to the point love it mwah kisses
@UP209D
@UP209D Год назад
I got a report that said 1080p has 8-12ms decoding latency, why did you have so much latency (21ms) actually?
@hjorthall
@hjorthall Год назад
Idk, perhaps weak hardware on the Chromecast or those numbers are for a wired connection or the encoding stage isn't included in that metric? Idk
@kebongski
@kebongski 3 года назад
and both are casting from your gaming pc? this looks pretty good with moonlight. really torn whether I should get nvidia shield tv or the new chromecast. any thoughts? I just wanna play my steam games on my TV wirelessly.
@hjorthall
@hjorthall 3 года назад
All but stadia streams from a PC. The props of Nvidia Shield TV would maybe be USB ports (CC can get some with a USB hub). IDK how much they differ in the interface, but if you want to spend 3 times more on a shield, I've heard they have great AI upscaling (great for turning 1080p to 4k etc). It probably also has a better processor so you can emulate N64 games in higher framerate. For moonlight, streaming services and emulate SNES the Chromecast TV does the job perfectly fine, if you pay extra for the Shield you get extra features and performance.
@kebongski
@kebongski 3 года назад
@@hjorthall not really concerned about running anything on it natively, which is why I'm considering the Chromecast... but i've heard about a lot of folks complaining about Steam Play being unplayable on the new Chromecast because of high latency/delays. Was this not your experience?
@hjorthall
@hjorthall 3 года назад
@@kebongski Higher latency than moonlight, yes clearly. I can actually give it a try tomorrow morning and give you a subjective analysis of the latest release. I will tell you though, I also own a VALVE Steam Link and that, too, feels sluggish compared to moonlight. So I would guess it's a problem with the streaming protocol itself and not the device. (I'm saying I think any device will feel sluggish running steam streaming compared to moonlight).
@hjorthall
@hjorthall 3 года назад
@@kebongski I tried it now and can still verify it's not a great experience (just as bad as the steam link). Basically when compared to moonlight the input delay is a few ms higher and the image can sometimes get weird compression artifacts and lose 2-3 frames every 10-15 seconds. It's "fine" but I would never use it oven the moonlight experience.
@kebongski
@kebongski 3 года назад
@@hjorthall oh my. Huge deal breaker for me. This was really helpful, thank you for helping me decide!
@Rhukzy
@Rhukzy 3 года назад
I've had huge issues with Steam Link on the new Chromecast TV, display latency has also been at 42-58 ms, even at 3 Mbps 720p! Tried all the settings and combinations... I can stream with the same router to my Oculus Quest 2 in 4K 90 fps in stable 30 ms at 80 Mbps bitrate! Steam Link doesn't work well at all on the Chromecast TV; gotta be the decoding on the device I guess?
@hjorthall
@hjorthall 3 года назад
Probably although, as seen in this video, Moonlight decodes the image way faster + I hade some experience of raising the frame rate to 120fps (with major tearing) for even lower latency. I believe the steam link app isn't at all optimized or using a slower codec. If you have a modern Nvidia GPU you should try out Moonlight. Maybe moonlight is faster since it's hardware specific, encoder baked into the gpu which lowers the latency, no clue.
@dvargas3553
@dvargas3553 3 года назад
Moonlight is known to be better than Steam link by a mile if you have an Nvidia GPU. Use that
@GreenyDe
@GreenyDe 3 года назад
i have the same problem... even with a ethernet connection the steam link app is losing frames... idk why but it is pretty annoying.. moonlight works well tho
@hjorthall
@hjorthall 3 года назад
@@dvargas3553 Alternatively look up Sunshine, moonlight for non-Nvidia GPUs. I have no experience with it but might be worth looking into.
@warlockboyburns
@warlockboyburns 3 года назад
It's unthinkable that a product dedicated to streaming doesn't match air link
@Clubdidu
@Clubdidu 3 года назад
Is moonlight installed on the chromecast+google tv?
@hjorthall
@hjorthall 3 года назад
Yes
@ZeoWorks
@ZeoWorks 3 года назад
Do you have the ethernet adapter? :)
@hjorthall
@hjorthall 3 года назад
In the description I stated I'm using 5Ghz wifi
@ElCompi14
@ElCompi14 Год назад
how do you conect pc to chromecast and moonlight?
@GuillermoDiaz_
@GuillermoDiaz_ 3 года назад
Thanks!!!
@danielcampos5571
@danielcampos5571 Год назад
Can you tell how is the decoding time for you in the Chromecast??
@hjorthall
@hjorthall Год назад
I don't have any numbers, I use moonlight over wifi to play Hogwarts Legacy and the latency with encoding, transfer and decoding is probably 20-40ms. Never had issues with reaction puzzles.
@alceidchannel2877
@alceidchannel2877 10 месяцев назад
Do moonlight work on router without internet?
@olivr_wtf
@olivr_wtf 6 месяцев назад
no. it still needs an ISP internet connection push to transfer the data from the devices
@IIIIIII664
@IIIIIII664 2 месяца назад
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