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Moore & Wright 405 Surface Gauge / Scribe Block Full Restoration - Inc Machining & Black Phosphate. 

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The Moore & Wright 405 surface gauge / Scribe block is a very common tool found in the engineering workshop. I was given this Moore and Wright 405 surface gauge / Scribe Block and decided to give it a full restoration So I could use it in my Home workshop; And believe me it needed a restoration. A surface gauge / Scribe block is a piece of precision workshop equipment used for measuring and marking out. It is often used to hold a Dial Test Indicator or a marking out scribe. I typically use it for holding the Dial Test Indicator. Restoring the Moore and Wright 405 has brought it back into allowable limits and is now a trusted tool in the workshop. The bottom surface has been surface ground to ensure it is totally flat. All the the moving parts of the Surface Gauge / Scribe Block have been stripped, cleaned, black phosphate coated for corrosion protection and re assembled. Some new parts were turned on the lathe to replace some damaged parts of the Surface Gauge / Scribe Block as well as replacing some of the non standard parts. I hope you enjoy / enjoyed the restoration of this Moore and Wright 405 Surface Gauge / Scribe Block. Thanks for watching.
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Комментарии : 37   
@DanKoning777
@DanKoning777 3 года назад
I'd have never guessed that there were so many individual parts to this. Well done.
@fredfarnackle5455
@fredfarnackle5455 3 года назад
I made a Moore and Wright scribing block clone when I was a fitter and turner apprentice in 1957, I still have it. I use it occasionally but it needs a bit of work to get it looking really nice.
@emmat7643
@emmat7643 4 года назад
Great job. Nicely made video and strangely soothing to watch!
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Thanks Emma. Glad you enjoyed it. 👍
@djmarine4499
@djmarine4499 4 года назад
Superb restoration highly enjoyable to watch many thanks for sharing 😊
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Thanks very much. Glad you enjoyed it and your welcome. 👍
@greypaladin4560
@greypaladin4560 4 года назад
I LITERALLY Just finished repairing my 407 Surface Gauge! I was just looking online to see how it goes together and found your video. I have two rods and extra clamps and bits so I was getting confused with which parts fit where. Luckily, mine wasn't as bad as yours so I didn't need to make any replacement parts or surface grind it. It was my neighbour's before he passed away and his wife gave it to me. He was a farmer and surprisingly kept his tools in good condition. All I had to remove was some surface rust and the black oxide (side note; tiny bottles of tool blue/black are too small. I couldn't get anything large enough to dunk parts in so I spent several hours and dozens of q-tips re-blackening my tool). Also, I used light grease to lubricate it since that's what it seemed to have been used last.
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Glad to hear that another old tool is being looked after. I'm sure it will serve you well. Regarding the blacking, if you watch my blacking video there is a discount available on the kits I use. Only for people in the UK though i'm afraid. Thanks for watching.
@Tome4kkkk
@Tome4kkkk 3 месяца назад
Nicely done! Although if you gave it to me I'd spend another 2 hours wiping it dry with paper towers ;)
@britishreaction54
@britishreaction54 4 года назад
Very nice job indeed. I know the concentricity on the threaded part you made wasn't a big deal. However, I made a similar part that was a locking nut with a slit in it for my mill. It was in my 3 jaw, HBM one like yours. I needed to mill the slit with a slitting saw then do another turning op. So I took the chuck off the lathe and clamped to to the mill table, then put it back on with the camlock studs in the original orientation. I really like seeing old tools like that given a new lease of life. They were made to be used and taken care of, so it's good when that happens. Thanks.
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Thanks Carl, glad you enjoyed it. Have you been shopping at RDG as well then? I could do with redoing the back plate for my 3 jaw as the run out is a bit too much I think it's about 0.15mm if I remember correctly. I was a bit sloppy when I made the register ring and it's a bit of a baggy fit. I tend to swap out for the collet chuck when i'm really bothered about concentricity. For this job I think the only op to do after the mill was to part off so your right it wasn't important for that. I always forget that taking the chuck off is an option so thanks for the reminder, that might save me at some point. 👍
@britishreaction54
@britishreaction54 4 года назад
@@Handmadeextreme That's interesting. My remark about the concentricity wasn't meant as a criticism by the way. It was just that what you did in the video reminded me of what I did. I got a bigger 3 jaw from RDG like you said, because they do them with a camlock fitting already mounted. The original Pratt Burnerd 3 jaw that came with the lathe was too small for some of the things I wanted to do. Looking forward to your next video.
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
No problem I figured that was where you were going👍. Even if it was; any constructive criticism is always welcome here as that's how we learn new things. I'm quite fond of RDG they always seem to get things turned round quick and they have good prices. Not really industrial kit but plenty good enough for the home shop and light business work. I'm working on the next one at the moment. I might have broke a bit on the Bridgeport so i'm doing a bit of an emergency repair.
@danceswithaardvarks3284
@danceswithaardvarks3284 4 года назад
Great restoration of and essential bit of kit.
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. It's already earning it's keep. 👍
@ratystast
@ratystast 4 года назад
Nice job & video. I am waiting to see it in action :D
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Thanks very much. I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's already earning its keep 👍👍
@pearcemachineshop5200
@pearcemachineshop5200 4 года назад
Lovely job mate, should see you out, 😁 Al.
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Hi Al, I hope so haha 😂 Glad you enjoyed it.
@RafaelHe
@RafaelHe 4 года назад
I'd like to suggest you describe the history and use of the tool within the video. There are a lot of semi silent videos of disassemble, polish, reassemble tools.
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Great idea. I'll try and integrate a bit more information in future videos. Thanks for watching.
@notny411
@notny411 4 года назад
not sure what it does, but it look a lot better now. ;)
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Haha. It's for holding a measuring instrument or for scribing lines. Glad you enjoyed it and thinks for watching. 👍👍👍
@antonyhoward2759
@antonyhoward2759 5 часов назад
Nice job, when you doing the rotary table?🙂
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
The Surface Gauge is already earning it's keep in the workshop. I hope you enjoy the video. Thanks for watching.
@slotjocky69
@slotjocky69 4 года назад
i great video do you know the thread size for the thumb screw on the rocker assemble as the 405 i brought didn,t come with one and moore and wright no longer make them
@costarich8029
@costarich8029 4 года назад
Great restoration! Is the black phosphate product available generally? I recently moved to Costa Rica and rust is a significant issue.
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. We can buy it here in the uk and we have prty strict chemical sales rules over here so i'd imagine it's available world wide. You might find it, or something similar, by searching > Black Phosphate, Chemical Blacking, Cold blue or Gun Blue. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
@billhamilton2366
@billhamilton2366 2 года назад
You didn't actually explain what that little strange washer like disc screwed into the bottom of the spindle is for. Looks like a marking wheel of sorts like that which one might find in a glass cutter/scriber.
@johnsherborne3245
@johnsherborne3245 8 месяцев назад
Have you any idea how old yours is? I just had to replace a plated zinc casting on my Dads which he bought in 1943, clearly a different design of the same part number.
@freestyla101
@freestyla101 Год назад
What exactly is that part your screwed to the bottom of the mast? Mine is missing it.
@joshuagosling3341
@joshuagosling3341 4 года назад
Another great video!! What oil did you use when reassembling?? Oh and once again, love true lathe...
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
Hi Josh, Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it. The oil is just a general purpose light machine oil. 👍😀
@joshuagosling3341
@joshuagosling3341 4 года назад
Thanks for the reply. Loving the videos as always. What is next in the pipeline? I’m hoping something that can become black and have something knurled on it??
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 4 года назад
I've had to do an emergency repair on the Bridgeport so i'll be covering that. No blacking in that one. I'm thinking of doing a tutorial on the whole blacking process so people can see exactly how it works. It's super easy.
@sergeyloskutov5593
@sergeyloskutov5593 3 года назад
+++
@Handmadeextreme
@Handmadeextreme 3 года назад
Thanks.
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