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More Trouble At Hodinkee? How To NOT Negotiate A Watch! 

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@mtbmike1328
@mtbmike1328 11 месяцев назад
Fed the more I watch your concise videos the more I enjoy them! Always brief but comprehensive unlike most of the other watch content out there. Too many watch you tubers have become influencers hawking product they will never wear.
@jeffsmith1661
@jeffsmith1661 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Fed. Another straight forward piece. You deliver more valuable content in a couple of minutes than many others try to in their half hour chats.
@matthewdale956
@matthewdale956 11 месяцев назад
Or the boring livestreams where idiots pay for superchats 😏
@richardwarren2024
@richardwarren2024 11 месяцев назад
Great job on another Q and A. Thanks for always being direct on all topics.
@boriskatic7910
@boriskatic7910 10 месяцев назад
Frederico, I have purchased four watches from Delray and I have never negotiated price on any of the watches . As it was axiomatic that I was getting the best deal world wide. Thank you best wishes from Australia.
@jasonhenry3808
@jasonhenry3808 11 месяцев назад
Also the news and editorial sections are failing in quality
@mmagbie1
@mmagbie1 11 месяцев назад
The most recent Seamaster Reference Points was an embarrassment to Hodinkee of old.
@gyang333
@gyang333 11 месяцев назад
Yeah. The first generation of journalists were actually watch journalists. Slowly they got replaced one-by-one by scene poseurs.
@daneconnelly
@daneconnelly 11 месяцев назад
I don't disagree that AP only has one trick up their sleeve, however, I do love the new Code 11.59 in the sand color dial. Both chronograph and three hander
@erne75
@erne75 11 месяцев назад
Overpriced toxic turds.
@cesarlinan9251
@cesarlinan9251 11 месяцев назад
Hope we see you back on two episodes per week. It is always a good thing to have your content.
@allardvanderstarre5238
@allardvanderstarre5238 11 месяцев назад
i like your approach...i find i like grands eiko, patek calatrava (1960-birth year) and some IWC; i will have to be patient
@pw7900
@pw7900 11 месяцев назад
Gave you a RU-vid thumbs up, but an emotional thumbs down for picking Patek! Comon! Haven't we reached peak Patek yet? 😜 Vacheron all day long!! Love the channel Fed. Keep up the good work.
@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 11 месяцев назад
Plus VC has it's watches available to first time buyers and is relatively affordable.
@StephenMorganCanada
@StephenMorganCanada 11 месяцев назад
Never found Hodinkee appealing. Surprised they were ever as big as they were.
@PocketWatchTime
@PocketWatchTime 11 месяцев назад
I love that GP Evo3. Not sure it’ll fit my tiny 6.5 wrists 😢
@kaiserphoenix01
@kaiserphoenix01 11 месяцев назад
do watch guys even care about Hodinkee anymore? It was a thing for sure 5+ years ago but surprised people still pay attention to them.
@watchrolling
@watchrolling 11 месяцев назад
Appreciate you taking my question Fed! Great epsisode!
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 11 месяцев назад
Yeah Rolex isn't going anywhere. They been popular for decades. Even when you could just walk into a AD and buy a Sub or Gmt on the spot and they still remain independent and I know alot appreciate that. It seems some just want to see Rolex fail and I really don't know what that's about but it's just never gonna happen and I mean never. I really don't get the haters and they're unhealthy hate towards Rolex. Just move past it guys
@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 11 месяцев назад
I think the Rolex “hate” comes from the experience at the AD. Even Mercedes offers the C Class to new customers, but you can’t walk in and buy a Oyster Perpetual. The AD’s claim they have none from Rolex, yet you can get the OP readily on the grey market. The false lack of supply is creating the hostility towards Rolex since many customers just want to buy one watch without spending $1,000’s for stuff we don’t want.
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 10 месяцев назад
@@dannysimenauer5745 Yeah I know it's tough to get them. Even though I had my Submariner 14060m since 2003 and added a Explorer 1,114270z in 2007. So I really don't pay attention to their modern stuff but I'm hearing customers are getting called now. With not much of a wait. My comment was targeted to the Rolex haters that just hate Rolex with a passion for no particular reason. Some can't wait for a Rolex video just to cast they're hate and I really don't know what that's about. I mean some of these guys enjoy expressing their Rolex hate. More than talking about a brand that they like.
@markikn3183
@markikn3183 11 месяцев назад
Hodinkee: Jack Forster saw the writing on the wall.
@eyeheartsushi2212
@eyeheartsushi2212 11 месяцев назад
100%
@charp150
@charp150 11 месяцев назад
Hodinkee turned into such crap. Their “journalists” were people who knew very little about watches and they seemed to be doing paid reviews. Glad Jack got out. They had a one hit wonder with the John Mayer segment. That’s it.
@emadmusharbash4470
@emadmusharbash4470 10 месяцев назад
Fed - you mentioned that you have the Tudor BB 54. Do you still have it? I didn’t see it on your website. Thanks and great video as always .
@david.9633
@david.9633 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the new episode, Fed.
@Billeh556
@Billeh556 11 месяцев назад
Besides James Stacey, who absolutely rocks, Hodinkee can kick rocks
@rolexer
@rolexer 11 месяцев назад
Compare it to watch recon. Not c24.
@Rhal63
@Rhal63 11 месяцев назад
So true. Most ADs will treat you right if you don’t try to negotiate a lower price. In the run you will come out just fine and have a new watch friend. Thanks
@renehernandez6905
@renehernandez6905 11 месяцев назад
Many times AD will lower price if you show interest.Has happened to me in last5purchases.
@pelimartinez
@pelimartinez 11 месяцев назад
I just wished whenever we sell pieces to re-sellers the same principles would apply, as the offers we receive usually are low Ball offers.
@glycineairman
@glycineairman 11 месяцев назад
Try selling to delray if you want to see true low ball offers 😂 their margins are massive. Not hating but they have a good business model going which means the sellers have to take the hit
@LAVA1980
@LAVA1980 11 месяцев назад
Thank you Fed.... When keeping it real goes right!.... Don't change please
@allardvanderstarre5238
@allardvanderstarre5238 11 месяцев назад
quite to the point, no nonsense... i like that
@MrAgmx
@MrAgmx 11 месяцев назад
Fed you are pure class. Great show
@mauriebarnes8272
@mauriebarnes8272 11 месяцев назад
Patek is Patek and Patek wins! Well said!
@richardweir3342
@richardweir3342 11 месяцев назад
y does Patek win more than VC. Patek has become a one trick pony with the Nautilus. A way over hyped watch worn by rappers and gangsters
@charleslee3081
@charleslee3081 11 месяцев назад
Good stuff Fed!
@jeffsmith1661
@jeffsmith1661 11 месяцев назад
I especially agree with your holy trinity war comments.
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78
@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 11 месяцев назад
Sup with that Time Piece Gentleman tho...
@dotover9013
@dotover9013 11 месяцев назад
It’s just a civil case lol
@gszabo5978
@gszabo5978 11 месяцев назад
It’s a criminal case. He will be in jail for a long time.
@eyeheartsushi2212
@eyeheartsushi2212 11 месяцев назад
@@dotover9013LOL
@damisu8
@damisu8 11 месяцев назад
I had my worst ever experience buying anything (not just watches) with Hodinkee. It’s too long to explain here, but suffice to say it took 3 months and 3 faulty watches before I got my money back.
@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the heads up! Customers never took shots at Crown & Caliber before Hodinkee bought them.
@giovannibusato9815
@giovannibusato9815 11 месяцев назад
I'd like tò know your opinion on About Effing Time. Ciao Fed
@ssdc2
@ssdc2 11 месяцев назад
Could barely make it past their intros
@danrobinson2888
@danrobinson2888 11 месяцев назад
3 annoying narcissists who believe their own hype
@davidelliott948
@davidelliott948 11 месяцев назад
Seeing a bit more of Ben lately on Hodinkee. I don’t think this is a coincidence.
@StevenBremer
@StevenBremer 11 месяцев назад
This is one of the reasons I have moved away from their site. I check it occasionally but can't recall a recent article I have read from end to end.
@dehoyosrudolph8885
@dehoyosrudolph8885 11 месяцев назад
He’s gotta earn his keep! Press the flesh.
@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 11 месяцев назад
Who is Ben at Hodinkee? Seeing more of him means what?
@davidelliott948
@davidelliott948 11 месяцев назад
@@dannysimenauer5745 Ben Clymer is the founder of Hodinkee. He has played less of a public role at the company in the past few years.
@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 11 месяцев назад
@@davidelliott948 thank you.
@roycedot
@roycedot 11 месяцев назад
Hodinkee content is cool but there prices have been out of sync with the market for years
@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 11 месяцев назад
It will be a good thing for Rolex when Rolex supply and demand meet. Rolex makes great tool watches and people enjoy buying many of their models to be celebrate events in our lives. The ADs behavior the last 5 years is a turnoff, and many are still acting if it is all supply and demand. We know it is not just by searching the grey market.
@tre655
@tre655 11 месяцев назад
Rolex is the best watch scam on earth. Lots of $$$ for nothing, they aren't rare. I can't stand all these morons on ticktock trying to sell a Rolex at 22 that I could buy for 12k. Nothing special about them.
@dandydoc8386
@dandydoc8386 11 месяцев назад
Patek vs A Lange & Sohne???
@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 11 месяцев назад
Both are heavy weights when it comes to haute horology and craftsmanship.
@davidc5191
@davidc5191 11 месяцев назад
Regarding negotiating, you've always said dealers make about a 30% markup on new watches. With that in mind for a $3000 retail price for a watch I offered $2500 and it was immediately accepted. I think in this case the dealer readily agreed since they didn't have the watch in stock and had to order it from the manufacturer, so the dealer had no inventory cost sunk into the watch already.
@eyeheartsushi2212
@eyeheartsushi2212 11 месяцев назад
May I ask which brand and reference (or at least the brand)?
@davidc5191
@davidc5191 11 месяцев назад
@@eyeheartsushi2212 Cuervo y Sobrinos, at their AD in Newport RI
@eyeheartsushi2212
@eyeheartsushi2212 11 месяцев назад
@@davidc5191 Nice. Thanks for the reply!
@fourlakes
@fourlakes 11 месяцев назад
Never liked Hodinke
@albundy3929
@albundy3929 11 месяцев назад
thanks for not pronouncing patek like the watch bros.
@Jerrystone-xe9cn
@Jerrystone-xe9cn 11 месяцев назад
hOODWINKEE JUST GO AWAY
@notyourdaddy8300
@notyourdaddy8300 11 месяцев назад
Ben Clymer paying Anthony for too many rub and tugs. Who said that? That is crass and vulgar. Shameful.
@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 11 месяцев назад
Who is Ben Clymer?
@cliffwheeler7357
@cliffwheeler7357 11 месяцев назад
@@dannysimenauer5745The guy who founded Hodinkee in 2008. It’s going through a difficult period, that’s why he showing his face a lot more these days.
@cuh720
@cuh720 11 месяцев назад
Common Hodinkee L
@ezpages
@ezpages 11 месяцев назад
That editor Milton needs to go. He seems to be hogging all the content and he’s just not cool
@jsnmrtnz23
@jsnmrtnz23 11 месяцев назад
Speak normal
@oliverkuno8679
@oliverkuno8679 11 месяцев назад
so sorry but to say if one try to negotiate and you say not be to much off C24 is nothing you not considering is very arrogant bcs there is lots of watches on C24 wich are at least 20% overpriced!
@FedericoTalksWatches
@FedericoTalksWatches 11 месяцев назад
Then you should buy from a watch forum, from a private seller, with no warranty and no security.
@erne75
@erne75 11 месяцев назад
Everybody knows that chrono24 is at least 10% overpriced due to the fact that sellers will have to pay when the watch finally sells. That wouldn't be a bad start for negotiations: 10% to 15% less than average chrono24 prices.
@notyourdaddy8300
@notyourdaddy8300 11 месяцев назад
Find the cheapest price on C24 for the model you are after, then deduct around 10-15%. That’s what the watch is usually worth in the current market. Eric Wind said something like that anyway.
@erne75
@erne75 11 месяцев назад
Yep, Patek wins. It is all about Patek and Rolex. Everybody else is either a one pony trick or struggling to find their way.
@giovannibusato9815
@giovannibusato9815 11 месяцев назад
I consider Iwc,Omega and Longines great companies full of history and great models, one step under Rolex and two steps under Patek. Other major brands I can't tell the same
@garyboyle695
@garyboyle695 11 месяцев назад
Rolex and PP, how boring are you.
@lonewolfemcquade8133
@lonewolfemcquade8133 11 месяцев назад
​​​@@garyboyle695Alot like boring and traditional watches like Speedmasters and Submariners. And I'm definitely one of them. I like clean dials the minimal the better. Their traditional designs is what keeps them iconic. Nobody does simplicity like Rolex. I guess watches like RM are more your speed
@erne75
@erne75 11 месяцев назад
@@garyboyle695 yep, that's me. I also like vanilla ice cream and vintage clothing.
@richardweir3342
@richardweir3342 11 месяцев назад
At a croc of crap
@romeosly4341
@romeosly4341 11 месяцев назад
I think one of Hoodinkee major issues is their loss of reality. Having celebrities show off their watch collection to us the average joe is pointless. Even if we have the money we would never be allowed to own any of the companies off catalog pieces.
@m.e.p.r
@m.e.p.r 11 месяцев назад
More speculation and BS 🥱
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