For those not in the know, there is a major difference between mini-led and micro-led. Mini is what they describe here where it's basically just a high density of dimming zones. Micro-led is like Oled where each individual pixel has its own lighting. Micro-led has all the benefits of oled without the burn in problems.
Yeah it seems like micro-LED is the end game TV: no burn in, can get extremely bright, all of the other benefits of OLED. Not sure what drawbacks will be left once microLED TVs are available.
@@KalijahAnderson Same degree = almost 0% chance. If you display ESPN or CNN for 8 hrs / day for 6 months it has 100% chance. But... who does that? Who buys an OLED/QD OLED for that? And who would buy a 100k MicroLED for that? No one.
I have a QNED at home and what shocked me the most was the colors. When I got into the big city in Elden Ring the roofs were actual GOLD in color. The reds were amazing as well. Right now I am watching House of Dragons in 4K HDR and they really make use of it in that show. Stuff really pops and it is amazing to watch. Best 1.1k I have spent.
I had the QNED85 from LG for about 3 weeks. I kept noticing the light bloom. It's a great TV but I returned it and spent extra $$ for the C2. My first ever OLED. It's ridiculous. I cannot ever go back to LCD or LED but I'll still admit that the QNED85 is a good TV and at a good price.
So I just went ahead and purchased the new LG, 85 series QNED mini-led, in their 86in model. Love the television so far. Turned my panel brightness all the way down to 15 from the default 100 to get those crisp dark images, with no halo effect. Television performs flawlessly with my Xbox series X.
I got myself a QNED a month ago, but I'm not that happy with the HDR, the display has very rough lighting zones or what they are called, where the backlight of the TV turns on when there's a bright pixel on the screen or something and when I watch movies with aspect ratio bars it's really noticable, it's ok when the image is fullscreen, I'm also watching every movie with subtitles and they always trigger the backlight, which makes watching dark scenes really painful, fortunately most of the streaming services support subtitle styles, so I changed mine to be less transparend or grey, to not trigger the backlight so easily, still a bit of a pain in the butt for something that expensive
The high-end Samsung Neo QLED are a bit better at dimming, by having more zones, a VA panel with better native contrast and a dimming algorithm, that doesn’t display smaller objects like subtitles at full brightness.
Unfortunately that's the issue with mini-LED TVs. I personally still believe that mini-LED, for me at least, would be a better purchase than OLED. As I'd keep the TV for at least 10 years, after that amount of time an OLED panel would be extremely badly degraded in quality, while a mini-LED (i.e. LCD panel) would have 99% the exact same quality.
Yeah is blooming. I have the same occuring on my 2019 X950G, and currently planning an OLWad upgrade. I find the blooming can be helped by installing bias lighting behind the tv.
Having calibrated and tested many of the different sizes of the QNEDs, LG's local dimming is horrible in comparison to Samsung. This model, the baseline miniLED, has huge dimming zones which are very slow at responding to changing brightness. The QNED90 is fine, but the Samsung QN85 still beats it out handily. And the QNED90 is priced similarily to the LG OLEDs. The QNED80/82 doesn't really have local dimming, even though LG still puts it in the TV, as it is edgelit. LG does OLED well, but they are so far behind with their QNED panels.
@@DanielKennedyaeos Pretty sure every 2022 model, including Samsung, don't have that issue except some of the OLEDs. The Q90R is now 3 years old and doesn't use mini LEDs, even though it does have local dimming, so not really comparable in this situation.
@@DanielKennedyaeos there is ABL auto brightness limiter that varies model to model to protect the OLED pixels from damage.. some models are far worse and more aggressive and noticeable. it can be disabled in the manufacturer menu. it is based on the content though
10:26 I wish that were true. This exact TV at 55" in US costs $1100 USD, which converts to $1620 AUD, but in reality LG sells it for $2576 AUD. Even if we add Australian 10% GST and shipping fees it still costs over $400 AUD more.
If you live in Australia you should understand that the government doesn't give a sh$t about the people. They are the reason we get ripped off and the cost of living is so high.
@@NicoD3000 yeah i am going to get c1/c2 as monitor (as i dont watch tv) and throw out aged gw2760hs (that served me well since like 2015) but dont know how big should I go.. In old house we had 50UK6950 which was steal for 430€ atm 55c1 is really cheap tho could be too big as a monitor, or i could go for something like 42c2.. or 48c2 .. as they all are at same price range
I have this tv in 65" and it's been great in my bright living room. I'm not anti oled as I have a 48" one on the way for my bedroom. But for a room with a lot of natural light I decided on the qned85. No regrets and would buy again.
If you don't have anywhere to lay the TV flat use the box. Also you can use the bag that's probably around the TV to protect the screen if you lay it on the box.
In my household, I have a 77c9, 77a80j and a 42c2 in my home. I love tv tech and looking closely at the g3 vs a95l. I upgraded my step sons tv from a Vizio m series to a 55qned85 today. He plays Roblox and fortnight, etc so an OLED may be overkill. I definitely was close to getting him a 55c2 but got the QNED for a great deal. This tv is definitely solid so far (at Costco it was $799.99 with a 5 year warranty and $100 streaming credit)
I looked at that exact same tv in Best Buy and all I noticed was the heavy blooming around bright objects and white lettered titles going across the screen. I know in the store they use store mode (found on every LG TV) to really crank up the brightness and contrast and that definitely could have affected the blooming issue. But Next to it I saw an LG B2 OLED 65in that had zero blooming issues. I went with the OLED. This review kinda sucked. He really didn't demonstrate anything that the tv can do or will do. I hope he does something more informative later on. I suggest watching something with closed captioning on in a darkened room.
This is a sponsored showcase, not a review. LG mini-led tvs are not good compared to Samsung's and Sony's. But at the price you pay for them, it is a no-brainer to get an OLED.
It's sponsored, so they have marketing talking points they have to cover. Of course, there's leeway, but if LG says "don't talk about the number of dimming zones or color calibration" they can either scrap the deal and possibly LG stops giving them early access to their more interesting products or they can follow the instructions.
@@ZacharyMcClane you are right about the choice to go to an OLED is a no brainer. If I was going with LED I would have went with a Samsung or Sony like you said, but even the OLED beat them out in picture quality. I'm not sure what the major difference is besides panel between the LG B2 line and C2 line, but the display was beautiful, and accommodates for gaming with the HDMI 2.1 ports.
Finally, someone defends dark room mode lol. When im gaming after work at 2 am without darkmode level 2 on my C2, its like insta headache from how bright the tv gets
Not getting that at all, turning displays to 100% all the time, so the picture looks as it was meant to be, bright for bright scenes and dark for darks.
There's a lot of hate in this section. I saw this hoping it was a review, but it was more of an advertisement. I actually just bought this TV in the 75" flavor a couple weeks ago. Coming from a 55" Samsung from 2012, this thing is awesome. It was $1,599 from Amazon, which is way less than any OLED in that size. This thing gets bright, blacks are good, some blooming when viewing local dimming tests depending on the size of the white going across the screen, but it's not an OLED so... I mainly went this way vs OLED because of price, no burn in potential, brightness, matte screen.
@@zureai Rtings has one and will be reviewing. I am hoping it does well. Also, see the link below. User does a very in depth a review and says it's quite good ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vCWTixGHT90.html
I work as a tech for a big box and have been calibrating, Calman from Portrait, hundreds of TVs and I can truly say; the QNED/NANO is two of the displays that have the absolute worst results of any of the budget TVs. If you want the biggest TV no matter what sure but, if you use it for anything other than looking at your bad decisions by yourself, I would save a couple of months for a 860, q6x-q7x or, if you can, c1 (last gen and often for sale)
I remember about 12 years ago when TV's with huge 50" screens started to become available, not long after the biggest CRT's we could get were 32", and the age of "jumbo" tv's was the next biggest marketing gimmick. Little did they know that in 2022 people would need a truck to deliver the TV, and by 2030 the TV would come on a carpet roll designed to take up the entire load-bearing wall of your living room.
Like when my parents bought their first "flatscreen TV" (Not referring to the flat glassed CRT's). A 50" Samsung plasma TV that was only 720p, and probably cost something like $3,000+. And it weighed something like 96 pounds WITHOUT the stand. TV's nowadays it's like "Yeah.... I can hang it on that wall mount all by myself. No help needed" as you hoist a 65" TV halfway up the wall. That freakin thing.... You couldn't even get it off the FLOOR by yourself, let alone in any way where hanging it on a wall bracket was an option.
It's honestly absurd, though. I only have a 55" because the 48" version of my TV is almost an entirely different animal. They nerfed it so much they made the 55" and up the only versions that make sense. My living room is barely big enough for a 48", let alone a 55" and I definitely will never go above that. I already have to turn my head sometimes.
@@jipidydoo I only bought it to be able to play 120fps games on a 75 inch tv without paying a ridiculous amount of money. That and it was the only one I didn’t have to wait to go pick up in my area lol
Haha! Loved that he placed it facedown on the couch. Lawdy. When I got my OLED, I called a friend over to my house to help me stand that up because of how thing it is.
I REALLY miss having PIP. my use case would be to have my security cameras (that are being used as baby monitors in some cases) showing in the small screen while watching content on the big screen.
Can you guys please do a video on universal remotes in the era of smart TVs? I'm actually a bit nervous about upgrading to a smart TV because I'm afraid I won't be able to make my Logitech Harmony remote work with it. And I love my Logitech Harmony, even though it's a low-end version.
Harmony should still work, with traditional Smart TVs and addons like FIreTV. For Magic Stuff Like LG'S or Samsungs Wii Remote Style you need to read up, but all the Button Presses in most Cases still get send via IR
@@CASyHD. I was thinking I would need a Harmony Hub for this purpose. I already can't use my Harmony 300 for my Roku stick. Logitech discontinued the Harmony line, which disappoints me.
I had a 19 inch tv/vcr combo in the mid 90s, a Panasonic model. The remote had a wheel that you’d roll up or down with your thumb for menus and volume. It was the greatest addition to a remote since the power button.
It is IPS which is sucks. Even with 1000 dimming zones the QN90 has a 6000:1 contrast ratio lol my Q80T with 48 dimming zones has the same. 48 = 1000? 😄😄😄 and that has just regular LED not miniLED back-lit
I literally had this exact TV for about 3 weeks. For the money it's great and the picture is great, but I kept noticing the light bloom. I spent a bit more and got my very first OLED, the C2 and I cannot EVER go back to LCD or mini LED. OLED is just ridiculous.
Not to mention OLED suffers from display degradation at concerning speeds, and it always will due to the organic matrix. mini-LED are the present, micro-LED will be the future. Surely not OLED, which is okay for phones you keep 2-3 years. Surely not for TVs.
@@disadadi8958 I dont get that too. If I want to watch something I do it in a fairly dark room. 500 nits for OLED is perfectly fine. My friend's Q90T can deliver 1500+ nits... makes no sense... it hurts my eyes lol
I love LG but im glad i didnt cheap out and went for their C2 instead. I have a dark room so it’s plenty bright and contrast cant be beat. But If you have a super bright room I understand not going the oled route for that case
Once you go OLED. You can’t go back to lcd/led anything. The picture is just to nice to give up. Sure, A LOT of people just want a big image for as cheap as possible. But once you spoil yourself with the image of an OLED. Everything else just looks washed out or dull.
Disagree. I bought an LGA2, looked like crap. Maybe it was because it was their entry model, but lots of black crushing, and highlights were not bright, and it was dim even in the dark (my two cents). But this LGQNED 85 crushed the A2 with respect to brightness, I had no light leakage or bleeding issues at all, and don't have to worry about burn in (also no DSE on my display). Colors are incredibly crisp and vibrant, the contrast is more than decent, and the panel is a 120 hz display. The C3 is obviously better than the QNED 85, but not THAT much better than the B3, A2, and QNED 85. If I had to choose between the B3, A2, and QNED 85 I might lean towards the QNED....but between the C3 and QNED 85, the C3. Just don't do the firmware update if you get the QNED 85 2022 version...LG did something to screw with the lighting apparently in their update, and the 2024 version I bought and returned was absolutely horrific. Using a firestick to avoid the situation on the 2022 display.
bought an oled a couple of years ago because i'm into movies and series. really like it. but i agree, some ppl just need something that shows an image. Like my parents for instance. they have a Philips with ambilight but it's sitting at an 45 degree angle from the wall; freaks me out every time i see it
I can relate, my parents bought an OLED because they had money to spare and didn't want something cheap. They're only watching regular TV at 1080p or less and have never seen HDR in their life. The only thing they actually could benefit from is size and they could've gotten a much bigger one if they went for a good regular LED TV. You really can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Not sure why you didn't comment on it, but the one thing that's annoyed me on lot of LG tvs is that the AC power cable is hardwired. Is this an Apple studio display thing where they expect you to buy a whole new tv just because you accidentally f**ked the power lead by accidentally resting the panel/one of the feet on it while moving it around? Or is it replaced with an IEC C7 cable + C8 port on the tv in other markets. I noticed this on the Sony X95K when you did that a while back as well, and it infuriates me.
Most LG TV I've seen in the last decade are not hard wired. It's been IEC C13 for everything before 2009. then C5/C6 till around 2015, and then C8 until now? They've hard wired the OLED series though, possibly because it uses a lot of power, and don't want potential issues. Also, repairing an AC power lead is something anyone can do. If it's messed up, you chop it up and replace it with a Leviton connector from your local hardware store. No one ever replaces the whole TV for a power connector.
I really hate that manufacturers STILL put all connectors and ports on the TV's main circuit board on the back of the TV, far away from any edge making them inaccessible when the TV is mounted on a wall. It would be better for users if ports were on a daughter board near the edge of the TV so one could connect and disconnect USB, HDMI or audio or optical inputs with ease.
Make sure you get what the image processor does and what the ARM SOC does correct if you're going to do TV reviews. Messed it up again, you did last time on the Sony review as well. The Alpha is the image processor it does not process the menu making it snappy. Please get this corrected for future reviews.
Samsung’s Neo QLED technology uses miniLEDs - this new technology allows for the TV to be brighter and provide a more varied, better quality colour display. The LG QNED combines miniLED with LCD - the backlight is lit using the miniLEDs, these LEDs then light the LCD combination of both quantum dots and nanocell.
I bought the 65QNED90 a few months ago on sale for $1,200 (before $300 Best Buy Rewards points). Movies on it are amazing. Cinema mode on the TV has incredible colors that are true to life, and Dolby Vision or HDR content are outstanding. It’s not OLED, but for the price it’s fantastic :).
Yup. I tell that to people. I had the QNED85 for about 3 weeks but then returned it. Spent a bit more and got my very first OLED, the C2 at 65". I kept noticing the bloom effect. OLED is pricey but it's RIDICULOUS when it comes to contrast ratios and colors. It's just insane lol. I am NOT saying the QNED LG TV's are bad, they are definitely good for the price though and some people prefer that increased brightness.
Hows the backlight bleed in dark scenes? I had the QNED90 for about 2 weeks before I exchanged it for the C2. There were a few scenes in House of the Dragon where everything had a very distracting ghost around the brighter objects, and I simply couldn't deal with it. I am MUCH happier with my C2.
Lol I live in a 1-bed flat in south-east England (which per se is a measure of how tiny the flat is lmao) and I've managed to fit the 75" QNED86 there. It almost takes up a whole wall of the living room but... Who cares 😄
And the here's even a huge paper sheet in the top, right as you open the TV box, telling you exactly how to unbox it. Can't really stand people that don't spend literally just 20 seconds looking at manuals 🤦♂️
Very good video, i don't know if my english will be clear but here : I don't see the point of having an ARC connection, I have a 65 inch LG TV from 2022 and I take the Optical output that I plug into my Yamaha RX-V559 amplifier, if I plug in the ARC or e(ARC), I send the sound to the transmitter but it still the transmitter has to send the sound to the sound bar or sound system. I may have one less wire behind my TV but one more behind the amplifier. In my opinion if you have an amplifier that does Dolby Atmos, DTS X or Dolby Digital Plus in this case the e(ARC) is good for you, but for my part, my Yamaha amplifier is 18 years old and it doesn't do Atmos, only 6.1 Dolby Digital EX and DTS ES, a little upgrade soon :)e
I've got the 65 inch version of this tv and the low latency mode and fps counter and such pops up even when yuou plug in a steam machine too. Damn good tv for 1440p 120hz gaming.
On most LG TVs you can plug in a USB ethernet dongle and get faster data. It's USB 2 so that's what? 600Mbps? Certainly better than 100Mbps and in my case even with very good WiFi throughout my home, it's much more responsive than WiFi and I'm able to play faster data rate videos from the dongle. Test with the huge array jellyfish test videos.
I like how LG's OSD says "std" right in the middle. While I know it stands for something else entirely... std is not the 3 letters you want to see next to each others in English.
I was looking at TCL 6-series 4K TVs the other day, they have 4K/120 and 4K/144 ports depending on the model, BUT the eARC ports are just the 4K/60 ports! WTF?! Why would I want to hook my receiver that supports 4K/120+ to an eARC port that only supports 4K/60?
Can you permanently turn off the pointer, because if not I would rather not have TV than be stuck with a LG. Also why are they still using NICs from the 90s?
Especially for me because I like dim displays. Bright ones feel like my retinas are burning. I'm running both IPS and Oled at lowest brightness setting but have to drop brightness in nvidia settings for the IPS in order to get comfortable levels.
OLEDs are only dim if you're used to super bright LCDs. If you haven't had an HDR TV before you'll never notice the lack of brightness! Hell, my B9 can still sear my eyes at night with the right content
My old MP3-player had an OLED display. It wasn't every good. It was so dim I could barely see the battery indicator when shining a light on it. But that's OK, because it only had 64MB of memory, so I was swapping tracks like every other day and that would charge the player. What I'm saying is I didn't need the OLED display so the video title is true. I'm gonna watch the video now.
OLED has progressed significantly since your old MP3 player came out. Not all OLED panels are equal. 1st gen PS Vita has an outdated crappy OLED panel vs the Nintendo Switch OLED for example.
3:03 I cut from satellite in 2013 and have been recording over the air TV ever since making my own personal homeflix, i didnt get wired home internet until 2020 so subscriptions/high seas was not an option either.
Did that screwdriver bit got stuck when screwing the TV feet? I find that hilarious when talking how good that LTT SD is ....not that It matters....but it's just funny
He killed me when the TV was laid screen face down on something smaller than the screen itself. I've seen so many displays ruined by even the slightest pressure on the panel.
It's a soft surface, nothing will happen to it. I've seen thousands of tvs placed like that (with more layers of tvs on top of them), they can handle the spread out pressure pretty well.
That mention of the LAN port is one of the things I hate with TVs these days. Why does it have the port if they're only going to be 100mbps. I guess some businesses can probably use them with advertisement or something low bandwidth.
6:56 just slap on some bias lighting at the back of the TV and your eyes'd be all good! Max brightness ftw (altho it might decrease the life of your panel? idk)
Do not buy these tv's, I bought 4x QNED99 86" models, 2 x 4K and 2 x 8K, every single one has the dirty screen effect which is permanent black splotches on the screen, most noticeable on solid colors and whites/greys. look it up, its horrible, def not worth risking it on these models
