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Mormon Temple Weddings Explained (Sorry, You're Probably Not Invited) 

Alyssa Grenfell
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Getting married in the temple had nothing to do with me and everything to do with my religion.
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*The words of a temple ceremony (www.mormonthink...)
*Temple recommend questions (newsroom.churc...)
*My mormon endowment explained video ( • Secret Mormon Temple C... )
*My Mormon garments explained video ( • Mormon Garments Explained )
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@lauramuse910
@lauramuse910 7 месяцев назад
Definitely do a nice vow renewal with YOUR dress that YOU like in a venue YOU like!
@mairi2693
@mairi2693 7 месяцев назад
In Scotland 'hand-fasting' ceremonies are popular. I think it originates from old Celtic traditions and is beautiful. A faith element can be incorporated into it as well if you want this.
@MollyMountaineer
@MollyMountaineer 7 месяцев назад
With all your friends !!
@trishwedin4664
@trishwedin4664 7 месяцев назад
And serve champagne!!
@UlexiteTVStoneLexite
@UlexiteTVStoneLexite 7 месяцев назад
I deed
@susanjoyce8053
@susanjoyce8053 7 месяцев назад
Do the vow renewal and get yourself a dress that’s low cut and ships your shoulders…. A slit in the skirt would be a nice twist 😉
@deecawford
@deecawford 7 месяцев назад
I married into the LDS church. Never in my life have I been so disappointed when I received an invitation to a wedding reception but not the wedding of a nephew. Jesus never turned away a sinner. No matter the reason for a person to be in church, we are to take this gifted moment and give it to the Lord to open their hearts while in Gods house. This is something I will never agree with that only the worthy can come into the Mormon chapel.
@shortcakegurl5187
@shortcakegurl5187 7 месяцев назад
A chapel and the temple are totally different places. The reason only close family and friends are invited to the sealing in the temple is because the sealing rooms aren't big enough for hundreds of people. Also, a temple sealing is for the couple, not the guests.
@eponack
@eponack 7 месяцев назад
@@shortcakegurl5187It’s cult brainwashing 101. Make a level of elite. Keep it mysterious. Demand money.
@brothebys
@brothebys 7 месяцев назад
@@shortcakegurl5187Her little sister and her older sister weren’t allowed to be in the wedding, so it has nothing to do about closest family. Jesus himself did his first miracle at a strangers wedding.
@ohh771
@ohh771 7 месяцев назад
​@@shortcakegurl5187me when i am completely lying to defend a cult:
@laneneal3510
@laneneal3510 7 месяцев назад
Control…
@vickierichter7850
@vickierichter7850 6 месяцев назад
Coming from a long line of Mormons, my ancestors coming across with Joseph Smith, I truly believe Mormonism is pure straight a cult! I chose at age 13 to become Catholic. My Mother was not a practicing LDS so it made it easy for me to start my catechism and on to Baptism, First Holy Communion and Confirmation. At 67, I don’t claim any religion. Jesus is my savior and I know he has my back.
@chucklebutt4470
@chucklebutt4470 6 месяцев назад
You went from a church that hides rampant sex abuse by its' leaders to... a church that hides rampant sex abuse by its' leaders. Makes sense.
@Kristy_not_Kristine
@Kristy_not_Kristine 6 месяцев назад
That's exactly how it should be❤
@Kristy_not_Kristine
@Kristy_not_Kristine 6 месяцев назад
It's such manipulation! Of course we'll be with our loved ones and family in hr next life! Doesn't require a temple ceremony! Tithing was never meant to be 10% of income (by changed it just weeks after he took over), and it and the WofW were never meant to be requirements to enter. That was added in Utah.
@paulofell9939
@paulofell9939 6 месяцев назад
Yes Mormons are a cult. They are not followers of Christ. Joseph smith was a sick individual who changed Scripture to meet his needs
@patriciashears25
@patriciashears25 5 месяцев назад
A tithe is in the bible set by God.
@kathya1504
@kathya1504 6 месяцев назад
Fascinating! Thank you for sharing for those of us who know so little about being Mormon. You are so brave to have chosen to live your life as you want to.
@donnavaughn9409
@donnavaughn9409 5 месяцев назад
And you still don't know, this is someone who has left the LDS church and needs to be okay with that, so the more she or he can try to disqualify others from having interest they feel better about their decision. Talk to some happy LDS people.
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 4 месяца назад
@@donnavaughn9409 why? your religion dictates that you do not discuss any distasteful aspect. that means the only honest info your going to get is from an ex mormon
@deplorableneanderthal1265
@deplorableneanderthal1265 3 месяца назад
I grew up in the Mormon church and quit when I was 18. Even though my parents and my sisters were married in the Temple, I've never been told what happened during a temple marriage. This has been very eye opening for me. Thanks.
@MGQ888
@MGQ888 7 месяцев назад
I followed the approved plan by the church. Married a returned missionary in the temple. Remained faithful to him, had a large family, note; I don't regret the children. They are my joy. Stayed active, went according to the "Plan of Happiness". Fast forward... We're divorced, I'm free of the cult, my children are out. We're happier now than before. The critera that is given to find a mate and have a family is skewed to the benefit of a patriarchal corporation. I have told my children to find someone, if they choose to be coupled, who lights you up, who you feel safe with. A better critera in my estimation.
@a.walters123
@a.walters123 4 месяца назад
My cousin spent 8 months exercising to fit into my grandmother’s (also Mormon) wedding dress. When she went to the temple, it was rejected because over time, it had diminished to an ivory cream color due to aging. So she was stuck with a generic, ill fitting glorified nightgown. But, hey, it was stark white! Because that’s all that counts. So much for being “all about family.”
@LookingForThatBlessedHope
@LookingForThatBlessedHope 7 месяцев назад
I am all but out of the church, the only thing that remains is my member ID #. I haven’t been to Sunday services for months. I have been a temple worker. I’ve not worn my garments for a long time, basically I only wore them for about a month after being endowed. I have prayed and asked God to forgive and release me of any covenants made in the temple. Thank you for speaking openly about this subject. The last straw for me was a hymn that was sung one Sunday and I’d never heard it before but realized it was singing praises to J Smith and I’m sorry praises are for Jesus Christ only 🙏🤍
@tessmoore3762
@tessmoore3762 6 месяцев назад
Glad you saw the truth and got out of the cult. Jesus Christ is the one who deserves the praise!
@bernadettekavanagh9984
@bernadettekavanagh9984 6 месяцев назад
God bless you and keep you safe 🙏 ❤️ 💙 ♥️. Don't worry about what those so- called elders say it's complete rubbish 😑.
@zadiawilson2201
@zadiawilson2201 6 месяцев назад
I'm so sorry. I'm sorry you feel that way. If I were a temple worker... I can only imagine the blessings you could reap! The Spirit you would feel! I would personally never pass up the opportunity... we don't sing praises to Joseph Smith! What Hymn are you referring too?! Joseph Smith is a prophet, and he should be remebered for the translation of the BOM, but we don't woship him! That's why we said we aren't "Mormons," but we belong to "The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints." We dont worship Mormon, we worship Christ! I'm sorry that you were not able to discern that. I, personally, belong to the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints. I know who I am, I know God's plan, I'll follow Him in faith. I believe in the Savior, Jesus Christ, I'll honor His name. I'll do what is right, I'll follow His light, His truth I will proclaim. The primary answers are the PRIMARY answers. I know this gospel is true. I've felt it's moving power in my life, and I can only pray you will return to feel it too.
@MrKevinStraub
@MrKevinStraub 6 месяцев назад
@@zadiawilson2201 2 Cor. 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
@muckpuppy
@muckpuppy 6 месяцев назад
@@zadiawilson2201joseph smith was a false prophet who made up a bunch of ridiculous shit - if you love god, follow god only.
@doe729
@doe729 Месяц назад
My friends son had become a Mormon. He did the mission and married a lovely young woman. My friend wasn’t allowed to go to the wedding at the temple, not being a Mormon herself. They ended up leaving the faith
@MrsWheezer
@MrsWheezer 7 месяцев назад
I have family members who are Masons. When you started describing all the handshakes, rituals and secrecy, I immediately thought ‘Masons’.
@itsnotrounditsapyramid
@itsnotrounditsapyramid 7 месяцев назад
I could be mistaken, but I think I remember reading that Joseph Smith who started Mormonism tried to become a Mason before starting his own organization
@MrsWheezer
@MrsWheezer 7 месяцев назад
@@itsnotrounditsapyramid That would explain a great many things.
@janetbucknell592
@janetbucknell592 7 месяцев назад
Well, yeah -- Joseph Smith was a Mason and lifted all this secret stuff WHOLE from the Masonic rituals.
@MichaelSmith-fq3pg
@MichaelSmith-fq3pg 7 месяцев назад
Nine weeks after Joseph Smith became a Master Mason, he introduced the rites that exist in the temple today. A few words here and there have been changed but otherwise they're a blatant copy of the first three Masonic degree ceremonies.
@sinistercyn9849
@sinistercyn9849 7 месяцев назад
@@itsnotrounditsapyramidI think he actually was a Mason and I agree with you, I think he borrowed a lot from the Masons.
@infidelcastro5129
@infidelcastro5129 4 месяца назад
This is heartbreaking. I hope you both finally got to do the ceremony again in a humane manner ❤
@nancyhowell7735
@nancyhowell7735 7 месяцев назад
My first experience with a Mormon wedding was a friend who converted to Mormonism in order to be married. None of her family, including her parents, no non Mormon friends and no college friends were allowed. She was all alone except for the groom and his Mormon family and friends. We were all shocked as none of us had ever encountered this situation. We just thought it was the weirdest thing we had ever heard of.
@APKAssassin
@APKAssassin 5 месяцев назад
It's not just weird. IMHO, it's an abomination. One day, humans may evolve from the dark ages and quit following cults (ie.. all religions).
@maryrap246
@maryrap246 7 месяцев назад
I absolutely love your content! as a never-Mo currently living in Idaho, I’ve been going down the rabbit hole since the culture is so predominant here. Thanks for your honesty and vulnerability :)
@Jr-qo4ls
@Jr-qo4ls 7 месяцев назад
Never Mo, cool term.
@AG-iu9lv
@AG-iu9lv 6 месяцев назад
Interesting that Idaho is so mormon-heavy AND has the world's most white supremacist organizations.
@justzev
@justzev 6 месяцев назад
@@AG-iu9lv only southern idaho is mormon-heavy. for some reason, they seem to like deserts. and idk where you get your ideas about "white supremacist" organizations. there are far fewer nazis here than in portland, but no one wants to talk about that.
@badger1296
@badger1296 4 месяца назад
Geez Alyssa, I'm receiving over a semester worth of Mormon culture from your videos.
@lilrosetattoo
@lilrosetattoo 7 месяцев назад
One of my best friends was Mormon. Yes I definitely was not invited into the temple at her wedding. Nor was her sister who was Mormon but not in good standing. So we sat on the grass and talked. I did however get to see the inside of a temple at an opening of a new temple. They are stunning…except ya know the whole cult thing.
@andyjones7514
@andyjones7514 7 месяцев назад
I have a temple recommendation and I go to the sacrament on a regular basis. Not all lds think alike. There are good lds people who support lgbtq rights, encouraged covid testing, and are affected by corporate greed. I know this because I am one and I know quite a few who feel the same way.
@chispitablanca
@chispitablanca 7 месяцев назад
@@andyjones7514 This is why you can’t convince me the church doesn’t have a department dedicated to monitoring the comments of every single exMo content creator and making chat gpt responses.
@andyjones7514
@andyjones7514 7 месяцев назад
@@chispitablanca First of all I don't monitor for the church. Look Ms Grenfell is obviously a learned, successful, woman. I'm here to post the wonderful experience my wife and I had when we were sealed in the Sacramento temple which is where we live.
@margaux6890
@margaux6890 7 месяцев назад
All this Temple preaching is pure “BS”
@jenniferpearce1052
@jenniferpearce1052 7 месяцев назад
@andyjones7514 Your grammar is hilarious because your statement reads that you are a good lds member who supports gay marriage, encouraged covid testing and are affected by corporate greed. Is that what you meant? Edit: I just read the second comment where you said you live in the Sacramento temple.😆
@cocolinabt
@cocolinabt 7 месяцев назад
If it weren't that serious and causing so much harm to people the whole thing would be great comedy... A Club with a secret hangout and a lot of secret handshakes, special holy clothes and all that... and then a bond for time and all eternity can be broken simply by removing your name from a list... Which is fascinating because this makes the club be higher up than even god.
@katstonerock
@katstonerock 7 месяцев назад
They have a satire Broadway play called The Book of Mormon, see if they have youtube videos on it.
@maxhasproblems4885
@maxhasproblems4885 Месяц назад
@@katstonerock i've definitely watched a bootleg for it, so i'm sure it's out there
@loum73
@loum73 3 месяца назад
My cousin took me to a Mormon party her friend invited her to. It was in a hall, there was a dj, photographer, lots of snacks on a table and tons of large water jug everywhere. That was the only beverage. Water. From large jugs. Everyone danced and had lots of clean, sober, chaste fun. The bathroom was like a club bathroom fully loaded with hairspray, deodorants, and anything else you need to be presentable. I can't remember if there were candy bowls. Don't quote me on the candy it was all so much to take in and I was like, wow, these people can party. But now I think it was some kind of single meet. My cousin's friend was not at all warm to me. Actually she was quite the opposite without her ever uttering not 1 single word or glance, not even by mistake towards me. Whatever. But also, most of those people seemed to be quite wealthy. While typing this out, I also remember we also attended some type of day seminar that provided different classes for how to dress for success, self improvement, I can't remember the other ones. Then there was break for eating meals that they provided for you. I then remember a type of mass I can't remember the things said. I think there was some singing. The classes where ok obviously, but the mass made me so uncomfortable. I think it was the things they where saying. I thought it was bizarre but I don't remember the details.
@kari8899
@kari8899 2 часа назад
Fascinated by your descrpition. Consider being a journalist, please, youi are talented.
@galenrandir
@galenrandir 7 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for sharing, and for your vulnerability. I have my own religious trauma, and while I was never Mormon, I do recognize how long it takes to recover I wish you all the happiness in the world!
@linlouwho123
@linlouwho123 2 месяца назад
When I was young, our family was good friends with a Mormon family. The elder daughter got married in the Salt Lake temple. The mother was not allowed to attend the wedding because she wasn’t allowed inside the temple for some transgression. I remember feeling really angry and upset by this. At that time, I was very glad to be Catholic where I knew everyone was welcome to come inside our church, whether you were Catholic or not.
@LunaCidnie
@LunaCidnie 7 месяцев назад
I really hate the idea that the most important thing about a woman’s life they gives her value is whether or not she is married. Hate the idea of a womans self worth being tied to a man. Hate the idea that nothing a woman accomplishes, degrees, work pursuits, creative endeavors etc matter as much as whether they attach themselves to a man.
@claireseyeviewonredbubble
@claireseyeviewonredbubble 6 месяцев назад
And every single man alive is only here after being carried for 9 months inside a woman and born from a woman. And probably fed, cleaned and cared for by one too.
@MoRiley9
@MoRiley9 4 месяца назад
Spot on. The Mormon lifestyle is a cult.
@janemaber5420
@janemaber5420 6 месяцев назад
I live in Carlingford, a suburb of Sydney, Australia. We have a temple that the community got to view before it was consecrated 30 + years ago. It was very interesting seeing the hall with the mirrors on either side of the room that meant your reflection and that of the enormous chandeliers went on for ever and the deep pool for baptism with a computer in the corner. Good luck to you
@abigailgerlach5443
@abigailgerlach5443 7 месяцев назад
I lived in SLC for 4 years. Even being non-Mormon, it was quite an experience.
@Cindybin46
@Cindybin46 6 месяцев назад
I'm a convert to the LDS church, having joined over 40 years ago. I'd love to visit SLC. It would be great to be around members of the Church. Hardly any where I live here in Illinois.
@Mej111
@Mej111 7 месяцев назад
I went to a temple open house last year and it was fascinating! Thanks for sharing this information
@JorgeLuizBorre
@JorgeLuizBorre 6 месяцев назад
I agree with your sentiments. My wife was equally saddened by the decision not to allow her mother to attend the wedding in the temple because she is not a member of the church. I encourage you to pursue all of these things and enjoy them as it is your dream. It is your right to be happy, and I am sure your feelings deserve that. It is possible to recover from all of this. You are a very special person, and I could see that clearly.
@thedzgirl
@thedzgirl 4 месяца назад
I know of the harms. My best friend chose to convert sadly. I was invited to attend her civil ceremony. On that day, her family and i stood outside the Alb temple while a swarm of people took her inside. It was sad and angered me since I new of the harm. The ring ceremony (that is what she called it) was exactly what you said. I spent most of the time rolling my eyes. Sadly, she is still a Mormon. I pray she will see the truth one day. While I still talk with her, sadly we have grown apart because I am not Mormon.
@SheilaRough
@SheilaRough 7 месяцев назад
Some shades of off white, like cream or ecru, are more flattering to some women's skin tones than stark white
@Kat-Annangel
@Kat-Annangel 4 месяца назад
I grew up being taught about God/ Jesus at home without a Church. So I've always considered myself just a Christian. And I'm happy with that. Since being an adult, I have gone to mostly nondenominational churches. Along the way,I've learned about Joseph Smith and Mormonism. And to be honest, I'm not a fan. But I might not be a fan of other denominations too. I think that humans were not meant to add to the Bible. And I think there's a difference between adding full on new ideas and honoring what exactly is in the Bible. I think you can honor God and still have much more of the couples identity in the ceremony. I hope you are able to renew your vows in a type of wedding that you both want that includes everyone you want there. And the color of your wedding dress shoud not matter. You could get married in rags and Christ would only see your heart. This is the first video I've seen on your site... so I don't really know your story. These are just my thoughts.
@emilywilson7835
@emilywilson7835 7 месяцев назад
I'm so sorry for everything you've experienced. Thank you for sharing your story!! I had close relationships with LDS members in high school - and wow - they were focused on converting people, and although I was never a member, I had to unlearn a lot of weird things too from the friend group. You look like you are happy and following your own heart. All the best!
@k.hendrickson8735
@k.hendrickson8735 5 месяцев назад
It’s not that “many people don’t want to talk about it”. It’s that the Mormon cult doesn’t *allow* its members to discuss their secret hocus-pocus misappropriation of real Christianity. That’s part of the appeal of a cult for vulnerable, easily led people. I applaud you for leaving it. May you and your family find the Truth and the peace of real Bible centered Christianity and the love of Jesus.
@NancyLiedel
@NancyLiedel 7 месяцев назад
Former member who had her Temple recommend, I love your content.
@madeline3868
@madeline3868 5 месяцев назад
Coming here because my brother was invited to his Mormon friend’s wedding only to be told on the day he had to remain outside the temple with the other non Mormons. I think they stood in the parking lot for a bit before leaving.
@kaikai52720
@kaikai52720 Месяц назад
I know you’ll never see me comments, but in a previous video you said that you hated teaching but did it anyways because of your father’s blessing. What you’re doing with these videos is teaching, though. I feel like you’re still “spiritually” upholding your promise to your father. I know you don’t believe in religion anymore (I’m not a Christian myself, but I’m very spiritualist), but I think it’s sweet. I don’t know how much you care about it anymore, but I think you’ve fulfilled your blessing in a way that you never knew you would. I’ve been watching a lot of your videos, and I’m really happy to know more about this secretive religion because someone very close in my life left the Mormon church before I met them.
@autumncortez6254
@autumncortez6254 3 месяца назад
I was very unimpressed with all the Temple ordinances. It was so hyped and built up, I was thinking there would be something amazing or I’d learn a lot. But…nope. I found it boring, nothing earth-shattering, just…overall a feeling of “Really? This is it?” I mean…secret handshakes? I did get the beautiful bridal room all to myself and I wasn’t rushed, so it was very fancy and beautiful and I got to wear my own gown. I picked a man I grew-up with and respected and knew him well for my officiator, so that was also a great experience. I didn’t want to just get assigned a stranger, as my sister made the mistake of doing, and it be a 90 year old who could barely hear. Her ceremony was crappy.
@katjonesandtheprophets
@katjonesandtheprophets 9 дней назад
I'm sure it's not like this anymore, but folks who got married before the 90's: Was your ceremony scary? My dad was forced to take some pretty freaky vows. He was TERRIFIED to talk about his temple ceremony because he was sure he would be punished and maybe killed by spirits that would be loosed on him for speaking up.
@HannaRichter-j7u
@HannaRichter-j7u 3 месяца назад
Oh my goodness the cha-cha slide comment sent me! I was an exchange student in 2011/12 and participated in basically all of the activities, including the dances, so that was a fun little memory I since then always associate with Mormonism. I still love my host family, but it's really crazy how much of my experience in the US was actually centered around their faith.
@paws2reflect
@paws2reflect Месяц назад
I remember hearing (and being outraged) that my aunt Jan (Mom's older sister) was not allowed in the building when her daughter got married because Jan was a divorcee before converting to the Mormon church.
@dalman_01
@dalman_01 7 месяцев назад
Few years ago my wife met 2 missionaries. Long story short she got baptised etc and then she went to the temple. She had a very errie feeling in there telling her it wasnt right. She left that crap about 2 weeks later. Not of god that lot
@Justin4u4me
@Justin4u4me 3 месяца назад
Im an atheist who is going to be the best man in a mormon wedding, and he knows im an atheist. It's an odd mormon wedding since he's the only mormon in his family after having converted into it, so it'll be kinda like a normal wedding up front then the "actual" wedding will be in back without any of his family or most of his friends. Gonna be super interesting...
@eggshan86
@eggshan86 3 месяца назад
Bring a flask or take an edible...make it real memorable.
@juliahaney9001
@juliahaney9001 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing. I have really wanted to know what it was like because many people I know have been married in the temple but I have never been able to attend.
@josephwilliams1853
@josephwilliams1853 20 дней назад
The Temple in my area had an “open house” before it was re-consecrated and not to be offensive, but the Celestial Room basically looked like an expensive hotel lobby or ballroom.
@lesliereeves5978
@lesliereeves5978 3 месяца назад
I was raised in a Christian church that follows the New Testament. I've known nothing about Morman religion rules. My mind is blown. Thank you for this education.
@AsherGrave
@AsherGrave Месяц назад
It would be lovely if a stack of those books were available to be placed into the various little free libraries all over Utah and other places with high mormon populations.
@kurt666morris
@kurt666morris 7 месяцев назад
Your best video by far Alyssa. Thank you!! ......You are lucky you went through the Temple after 1990. I went through in 1981 just before my Mission. I had to reenact the blood oaths, or slashing of my throat, if I betrayed Temple secrets. This was so bizarre. I thought I stumbled into a Charles Manson type cult. .....You are so right that this is all borrowed or stolen from Free Masonry. ......Mormons were the first to criticize Boxer Cassius Clay, when he took his Muslim name of Mohammod Ali. Well when we get our Temple new name I think that disrespects our Parents and Ancestors. It's like we all have to be generic robots. No room in the after life for to many Irish or Italian vowels.
@rebeccabedford9855
@rebeccabedford9855 7 месяцев назад
A 'secret' name isn't just an LDS thing It's quite ancient
@cookymarie82
@cookymarie82 7 месяцев назад
I'm glad at least now people have access to information about what they're getting into! I used to think wouldn't it be cool to find some ancient stones or paper to carve or write some BS on to be "discovered" later, make up my own religion, not necessarily to be discovered during my lifetime. But it's obviously been done semi recently, no ancient anything required!
@trustinginhim3189
@trustinginhim3189 4 месяца назад
My sister in law couldn't go to her kids weddings. She married a Mormon but isn't one herself.
@WatchingwaitingG2D
@WatchingwaitingG2D 4 месяца назад
Liar.
@sarahpinho1114
@sarahpinho1114 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for your work to help demystify all this info!
@kayaissimo
@kayaissimo 7 месяцев назад
From a Christian perspective these videos are very educational for me. They show the inner workings of what cults are like. Ps: LDS trying to get me to convert with that ad 💀
@smilingjacks83
@smilingjacks83 7 месяцев назад
Happened to me till I banned the ad!
@kayaissimo
@kayaissimo 5 месяцев назад
@@smilingjacks83haha, i almost was wondering what the “missionary’s” was until it said the “book of Mormon” 😭😭😭
@annapuhl6889
@annapuhl6889 7 месяцев назад
have a new wedding. invite your sisters. exchange vows. take your time. make it special. i’m proud of you
@Justagirlnamedshawn
@Justagirlnamedshawn 7 месяцев назад
I would totally do that if I were her. So sad that they can't even enjoy their special day. Cult mentality
@crescentmoonchild4031
@crescentmoonchild4031 7 месяцев назад
So sorry that happened to you. What a disappointment. I think you should tell someone how you feel in the church. If you haven’t already.
@jazziered142
@jazziered142 6 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@lynday
@lynday 6 месяцев назад
@@crescentmoonchild4031 Like the church would listen to her complaints? This is a cult so that will never happen.
@3dogmom
@3dogmom 5 месяцев назад
​@crescentmoonchild4031 I think they and everyone else should get tf AWAY from "the church". Just the way ppl talk about it is culty. Wonder why?! 😒
@kkheflin3
@kkheflin3 6 месяцев назад
My temple marriage in 1978 was one of the worst days of my life. I grew up SO excited to get married in the temple. I married a convert and an RM. Of course his parents could not attend since they weren't LDS. In those days one had to go through the washing and anointings naked under a poncho. This was changed in 1990 to the way they do it now which as I understand it one dresses in their garments and temple clothes first but someone who has gone through since then can certainly correct me if I'm wrong. Then I went through my endowment and THEN got sealed in marriage. It was a LONG day. The officiator was so old his hands were shaking and we were afraid he would pitch over the altar or onto one of us! He called me by the wrong name also. (This became a joke between us over the years that we weren't "really married" because my husband married someone named Lorraine). My husband looked like a baker in the hat. I was still so traumatized by the washing and anointing earlier in the day and the endowment I couldn't even focus on the sealing. I cried all the way to the reception and was furious with my mother and my husband for not giving me a heads up in advance. I understand much has changed since 1978. We left the church in 1992 due to the truth claims. We had no internet and did all of our research in the library. Only looked at church sources also. No "anti-Mormon" literature in those days. Best decision I ever made. My family is all LDS. Anyway it is therapeutic for me to share this and I know it's long!
@mraskolnikov3446
@mraskolnikov3446 6 месяцев назад
May I ask, what are the truth claims?
@katieward9701
@katieward9701 6 месяцев назад
I’m so sorry your wedding was so traumatic. That should’ve never happened. I hope you’re doing well; I can’t imagine the courage and strength it took to leave then.
@ardenpeters4386
@ardenpeters4386 6 месяцев назад
you COULD have been endowed earlier. don't blame the church for that. YOU COULD have told sealer he said your name incorrectly.
@ardenpeters4386
@ardenpeters4386 6 месяцев назад
you could have done a ring ceremony even a civil wedding....
@kkheflin3
@kkheflin3 6 месяцев назад
@@ardenpeters4386 You are absolutely right and I did correct him. In those days it would have been EXTREMELY unusual for a woman to be endowed before they were married. Women waited until their wedding day and had their endowment and a sealing in one day. I did have two friends who were missionaries and they were endowed before their mission. But it was not the "norm."
@gguerard
@gguerard 2 месяца назад
I was a convert in 1972. Went to the temple in 1974. My husband and I had been married already for about 4 years when we were sealed in the temple for Time and Eternity. I think that was the beginning of the end for me the ceremony where my husband learned my secret name but I couldn't know his secret name. Another thing that was very disappointing was the fact that my secret name was probably the most ordinary woman's name in the world . I thought I would be getting a special name that was just for me. Something new. I also heard later that everyone on the same day got the same special name? After 7 years in the LDS Church I got divorced and left the church. I felt my ex-husband used the priesthood to bully me. It was a relief to be free of the church and my ex . Also the special handshake and aprons was weird to me. Felt like a Mason ceremony. 😮
@0426jms
@0426jms Месяц назад
Someone told me the Mason ceremony is very similar
@davesnothere8859
@davesnothere8859 Месяц назад
thats where Joe got it.
@shnope
@shnope Месяц назад
do you know what your secret name was??
@leftalone9881
@leftalone9881 Месяц назад
@@0426jmsI saw pictures of mason practices, LDS stole things directly from it. Even the apron
@ahadaarie3863
@ahadaarie3863 Месяц назад
It’s because it is a Mason Ritual. The guy who started it, was made a 33 when he opened the temple and copied it all.
@Hopefull4you
@Hopefull4you 7 месяцев назад
Making you wear a different dress because it's not the "right shade of white?" That's so absolutely insane.
@GratiaPrima_
@GratiaPrima_ 7 месяцев назад
@@Kyle68655why would that even be an expected “issue”? Come on now.
@GratiaPrima_
@GratiaPrima_ 7 месяцев назад
⁠@@Kyle68655this isn’t normal. Look, I get having standards. Lots of churches are not going to just let a bride wear an inappropriate immodest dress. Good, I say. But come on. You have to know this is not normal. She showed her dress. It’s white.
@MichaelSmith-fq3pg
@MichaelSmith-fq3pg 7 месяцев назад
​@@Kyle68655You exemplify why people (correctly) think mormonism is a cult and its followers are heartless rubes.
@Juju-ew4zh
@Juju-ew4zh 7 месяцев назад
Sounds like gaslighting
@robertstone5747
@robertstone5747 7 месяцев назад
Needed a whiter shade of pale……..
@mads597
@mads597 7 месяцев назад
The communal bridal prep room sounds like an eerie reminder of polygamy culture
@andyjones7514
@andyjones7514 7 месяцев назад
Believe me it's not.
@blueheron4498
@blueheron4498 7 месяцев назад
completely unrelated phenomena
@andrewfarrugia6072
@andrewfarrugia6072 7 месяцев назад
Baptism for dead wtf that about Never heard such nonsense about afterlife
@andrewfarrugia6072
@andrewfarrugia6072 7 месяцев назад
Instagram down for anybody
@SherryAnnOfTheWest
@SherryAnnOfTheWest 7 месяцев назад
@@andrewfarrugia6072 I went to a Catholic wedding once (that's 3 hours of my life I'll never get back...) and they took a few moments for silent prayer for those loved ones who have "gone on before us." Yeah ... joyful and happy !!!
@1wood101
@1wood101 7 месяцев назад
The whole temple experience was pretty traumatic for me at 18. It was one of the things that started me towards leaving the church. Thanks for sharing.
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 7 месяцев назад
So many of us feel the same. It’s hard to explain the trauma and betrayal from going though something like this 😞 I’m glad you got out
@junehatter8479
@junehatter8479 7 месяцев назад
@@alyssadgrenfell My older brother basically had a breakdown his first (and only) year at BYU Idaho from learning more about Mormon doctrine and history and losing his faith, hard. I didn't understand at the time why he seemed so scared of our religion all of a sudden (I was like 13). Took me years to realize that he wasn't the crazy one
@reyvenaquino1817
@reyvenaquino1817 7 месяцев назад
I'm happy to have a missionary finished being a missionary,and Im free to make the right decisions,and be completed with my "True Love"and we all have that all of us!!!Just search,and search or find,and find because there it is,at the end of that road so don't give up brothers,and Sister's...we are all here helping each other to grow more,and love one another,and spread the love so that we all find peace,and understanding,and respectfully given to all of us so that we all be saved by our Powerfully "Savior" Amen
@WatchingwaitingG2D
@WatchingwaitingG2D 7 месяцев назад
Cowardly liar.
@reyvenaquino1817
@reyvenaquino1817 7 месяцев назад
@@Kyle68655 Brother Kyler some of it is a amazing experience to me that being a missionary there is a true Miracles and be brave to fully achieved all of it in my Time!!! AMEN
@Knightfallz
@Knightfallz 5 месяцев назад
28 years ago when my wife and I were married, the vows also included a section for my wife to agree to love, honor and "obey" me. There was nothing that mentioned "obey" in my vows. The ceremony came to a screeching halt when my wife told the officiator to repeat that last bit but leave the word "obey" out. Everyone's eyes were as big as dinner plates but I couldn't help but giggle a little bit because I thought the mere concept of my wife needing to obey me was ridiculous! The officiator turned to me and asked if I was okay with this. I told him I was more than okay with it. It's nice to see that part at least is no longer part of the ceremony. Loved the video, there are hundreds of thousands of members and ex members who I am sure are right there with you on many of the problematic parts of the Mormon Temple marriage.
@JulieBorges-l4z
@JulieBorges-l4z 4 месяца назад
It sounds a bit odd and a lot theatrical . ME! I’d be laughing so hard they’d have to drag me out by my heels , cackling all the way. It sounds like show and tell . I don’t know the theology but the couple is there to marry each other and everything else is witnessing
@mistysprinkler288
@mistysprinkler288 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂
@WatchingwaitingG2D
@WatchingwaitingG2D 3 месяца назад
@user-lu7dg5ny1r you're the joke. You couldn't be married if you wanted to pretender.
@WatchingwaitingG2D
@WatchingwaitingG2D 3 месяца назад
Liar.
@Knightfallz
@Knightfallz 3 месяца назад
@@WatchingwaitingG2DSorry, TRUTH!
@marianamenezes3199
@marianamenezes3199 7 месяцев назад
I was a convert to the church here in Brazil and oh my gosh... My husband's family is all from the church and they never told me anything, neither did my leaders. I felt so shocked when I left the temple, I got physically sick. Thank you for giving me this platform, I felt so alone. Thank you so much 🙏
@Tiamaryln
@Tiamaryln 7 месяцев назад
Hey! How are you? Im from brazil as well and my current boyfriend is a active member of the church. He's preparing for his 2 year mission and thia saturday hes going to the temple in Rio to the his investidura. I dont really know what to do. His family and friends (and sometimes a little bit him) keeps pressuring me to get baptised but just knowing all this stuff from the church it creeps me out. If u r willing to i would love to get ur contact to hear more about ur story. I really love my boyfriend and i want to marry him but not under this circunstances. I dont rlly know what to do.
@kristenhlady4079
@kristenhlady4079 7 месяцев назад
​@Tiamaryln you should leave him. It's a cult. You will be pressured, brainwashed, forced to do what they want
@marianamenezes3199
@marianamenezes3199 7 месяцев назад
​@@Tiamarylnhey girl. Don't do It, I know they make us feel so loved an all, but after we are in It It completely changes. Look up the temple ceremonies and what they truly believe (overall and about us, women). I cannot even begin to tell you how traumatizing It ALL was. Not to mention they live for the church, so If you love him and wish to live together some day you have to make It clear that he has to love you for you, and not expect you to become the stay at home meek wife and mother the church wants you to.
@Tiamaryln
@Tiamaryln 7 месяцев назад
@@marianamenezes3199 How was it for u? Are u still with ur husband or did u have to get a divorce bc of the religion differences?
@angelakutlik4526
@angelakutlik4526 7 месяцев назад
M​@@Tiamaryln
@saralynndunkerson2509
@saralynndunkerson2509 7 месяцев назад
That green apron really ties the whole look together.
@ABeccaTag
@ABeccaTag 7 месяцев назад
Who needs a paper white dress when you can have a green ass apron... ;>.>
@andrewfarrugia6072
@andrewfarrugia6072 7 месяцев назад
Freemasonry
@eponack
@eponack 7 месяцев назад
Looks like a doily. Or a placemat.
@jenniferpearce1052
@jenniferpearce1052 7 месяцев назад
I wondered if it's supposed to be like Eve covering her nakedness with leaves. Very weird
@JackHammer-e4x
@JackHammer-e4x 7 месяцев назад
Like a pool table in a blizzard
@edwinacross3452
@edwinacross3452 6 месяцев назад
My parents were not married in the Temple. As a child, the boys my age used to corner me at church and tell me how my family would never be together in heaven, my parents were sinners even though my mother came from a prominent LDS family - which made it worse (and my father smoked a pipe in public!) One of them said he heard his mother tell other women that my mother was married in the blue dress!! None of us knew what that meant and I didn’t figure it out until I was in High School, when I was disgusted by it. I spent time in other children’s homes and saw how their parents interacted, particularly how the father treated the mother. My father and mother SHOWED me what love was by the way they lived together. They were partners, they respected each other, and they loved each other. My father worshiped my mother. I was married in my own home, standing in the same place my parents had been married, in a dress I chose myself that I loved. My Mama was with me, alone, getting me ready. I came down our long staircase to Mendelssohn’s “Bridal Suite” with my sister as my Maid of Honor and four of my best friends as Bride’s Maids. I took my Daddy’s arm and he walked me down the aisle. I was married by a Presbyterian Minister who had counseled us for several months and let us write our own vows which were personal, meaningful and exactly what we wanted. When the minister asked, “who gives this woman in marriage?” My father stood up and said, “her mother and I, and by her own choice as we have taught her.” (This, in 1974) After the ceremony we went together back up the aisle to Wagner’s “Wedding March” while my friends, my parents friends, my sorority sisters, threw rose petals. I know five - FIVE - women who have told me that after their temple wedding they went into the bathroom and cried. One of them said she threw up she was so upset. Three of the five are still active members. What you are doing here is a great service. I know how difficult it must be. Please do renew your vows, I think it will help, you deserve it.
@johnanderson2627
@johnanderson2627 5 месяцев назад
Great comment / story . Too long for most people to read, but I did and I enjoyed it. All the best!
@marilynmccormick1658
@marilynmccormick1658 4 месяца назад
What does "married in the blue dress" signify? Not a virgin?
@dellataylor6897
@dellataylor6897 4 месяца назад
I
@declaroh
@declaroh 3 месяца назад
Your wedding story is beautiful and touching. The thing you father said made me choke up a bit, that’s genuinely beautiful.
@alfasou
@alfasou 3 месяца назад
My cousin married in blue. Her father is a bishop, so no one says anything... To their face 😂
@katwitanruna
@katwitanruna 7 месяцев назад
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
@lizzybeary
@lizzybeary 7 месяцев назад
Nice to see you here! I recognize you from C2C. 👋
@AG-iu9lv
@AG-iu9lv 6 месяцев назад
Yes! Break the silence about ALL the things. ❤
@danleda83
@danleda83 5 месяцев назад
Sorry, there's no breaking any kind of cycle. The work of Christ's church just keeps moving forward. The church has now past the 17 million mark. A couple of weeks ago, 15 more new temples were announced. Alyssa is trying to paint the most negative spin she possibly can. Why? I know not why. Is there money to be made trying to discredit the church? I don't know. What I do know is that she puts a lot of time and effort into her work. What is her reward? I keep waiting for her to announce she has found a new and better way to serve God, and to serve her fellow man, but she doesn't. She only continues to relive a painful past and through dirt on it. Here are a couple of short messages about the temple, and the exciting work of Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father in our day today, not the ancient past, but today! ... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Fd8tVXN9y6Q.htmlsi=2JnlZL2UI2CEZA8C ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K0WxLdb-Jok.htmlsi=eym67M3TgpboP0ka ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HX9K42SnQQQ.htmlsi=95XS9f0CX8WJeFgc
@theginger8855
@theginger8855 6 месяцев назад
I was so traumatized at my wedding. I couldn’t believe this was my church. Thanks for saying all the things I wasn’t able to say but I thought.
@danleda83
@danleda83 5 месяцев назад
Hey, no one should be afraid to say it out loud - when I, and many of my friends, took out our own endowments in 1977, we had that same feeling - is this the same church?? It was a shocker. And that, my friend, is the beauty of the restored gospel! This is such a dynamic church! I, and my wife have been a temple attenders for over 40 years now. We never fall asleep, we stay alert and attentive. The Lord has spoken to me through the endowment many times. And now with all the changes it's like - what is he trying to tell me now? I love it! I wish I could feel the same way, blessings to you
@triciaismyname6068
@triciaismyname6068 4 месяца назад
What happened that traumatized you? I live in Utah and have heard that many times. Yet nobody will tell me what happened because of secrecy.
@theginger8855
@theginger8855 4 месяца назад
@@triciaismyname6068 if you go to our regular church is pretty boring. We are told we don’t have symbolism, etc. then you go to the temple and it’s all symbolism. It’s the polar opposite of everything we were taught. It felt like I was lied to. I do think they prep people now before and maybe it’s less jarring.
@junehatter8479
@junehatter8479 7 месяцев назад
As someone who left the LDS church as soon as I was able to at age eighteen before doing my endowment, I really appreciate these videos. Whenever I've asked my Mormon parents what goes on in the temple, they've always been really cryptic. It's good to finally get clear answers
@Vibeagain
@Vibeagain 7 месяцев назад
They probably aren't oath-breakers
@silvermalwareai4047
@silvermalwareai4047 7 месяцев назад
​@shallnot6043 an oath made in secret isn't an oath I'd like to keep. Especially a religious oath, kinda creepy/culty
@Vibeagain
@Vibeagain 7 месяцев назад
@@silvermalwareai4047 why?
@junehatter8479
@junehatter8479 7 месяцев назад
lol what is this, Game of Thrones?@@Vibeagain
@silvermalwareai4047
@silvermalwareai4047 7 месяцев назад
@shallnot6043 why isn't it? A promise made by parties who basically had NO IDEA what has actually going to happen is extremely uncomfortable. I was actually scared of the temple since I had NO idea what went on in there besides the few rooms I had permission to go in. I would feel extremely afraid and uncomfortable if a political organization was this secretive, or if an educational institution was this secretive. Why is it okay when a religious institution is? It's not, it's creepy
@sarahdillman7069
@sarahdillman7069 7 месяцев назад
This is a really good breakdown. Thank you for mentioning that the husband gets to know his brides new name but the wife NEVER gets to know her husbands. This was one of the first things I asked after we left. We laughed so hard cause he had forgotten mine and asked for it too.
@flowc9372
@flowc9372 7 месяцев назад
LOL "Gee, thanks, buddy, so much for counting on you to call me out of my grave" 🤣
@Cindybin46
@Cindybin46 6 месяцев назад
You guys think this is all about "feminism" and "women's rights" etc., right? You don't understand! I'm a convert to the LDS church and if I can understand what this is all about, YOU can, too. But you just want to think that Mormon men "hate women" or that women are vicimized or something, right? So frustrating that you don't get it.
@TRB277
@TRB277 6 месяцев назад
@@Cindybin46I have Mormon family members, and i don’t think the women are victimized or that their husbands hate women. The objection is to the idea that women are seen as less-than: the man is called directly by God, right? He has a relationship, a direct connection to his maker. The woman doesn’t; she has to be called up or brought in by her husband because…? It all points to a sense that women don’t get that connection with God directly, instead they have to go through a gatekeeper, her husband. Please don’t pretend that thousands of years women haven’t been seen and treated as less than men. The problem isn’t feminism or thinking Mormon men are bad; the problem is denying a believing woman her own personal, _direct_ connection to God and saying she only gets resurrected via her husband calling her in.
@dustmite7558
@dustmite7558 6 месяцев назад
@Cindy explain it then, why can't I know my husband's name?
@Cindybin46
@Cindybin46 6 месяцев назад
@@dustmite7558 Ask LDS missionaries or a bishop, look up articles on fair mormon or the LDS website, etc.
@eq.8640
@eq.8640 7 месяцев назад
I like learning about different religions, and before your videos I never knew anything about these secret parts of mormonism. Thank you for sharing! I am impressed by your ability and willingness to share these difficult things. I am sure you are having a very large positive impact on the world.
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 7 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for watching and commenting! It means so much 💜
@sweetpea1989
@sweetpea1989 7 месяцев назад
My half sister grew up Mormon. None of her family could watch her get married. None. Our father could not walk her down the aisle. Her sisters could not be her bridesmaids. That was my first indication that this was a cult. If your “church” is not open to all, it is not a church. When her son and daughter got married, we didn’t even bother to travel across the country as we couldn’t see them get married, and the reception for the one was less than two hours with just tea sandwiches. I can see why outsiders cannot witness this….they will probably be laughing their asses off over the ridiculous costumes. I’m glad you realized the amount of brainwashing you had been exposed to and were able to get away from it. Another incident that happened was when our dad died, he was buried back here in Ohio. My sister wanted the ceremony to be at the LDS building in our area. She asked me to say a prayer. I did it for her because I love her, but, I wish I had said no as it was so against my morals to be in that building.
@jacalynmiller
@jacalynmiller 7 месяцев назад
this supposedly "secret pact" is very exaggerated, by the way - contact the missionaries and you can find out for yourself!
@MichaelSmith-fq3pg
@MichaelSmith-fq3pg 7 месяцев назад
Go look up a channel called NewNameNoah. He has videos inside the temple showing what goes on there.
@arbonneladyTN
@arbonneladyTN 7 месяцев назад
@@alyssadgrenfell I have Mormon friends, though never understood all the secrets, now I better understand it all. Thank you for your informative videos. On a side note I really first started understanding it was really a ‘religion’ when (many years ago, maybe 28) my husband had a few months of contract work in Ogden UT. Since we homeschooled our 3 kids, we joined him there. I was impressed by how kid friendly the whole city was, and how there was even a kids Muesum (first one I ever saw). However I began to investigate deeper to understand it is a cult. I really feel bad for our friends still in that ‘church’ as they are very intelligent and free thinking….
@ZalazGirl
@ZalazGirl 7 месяцев назад
The fact that as we are raised as women in the church dreaming of our wedding. Every level of YW marriage is uplifted and you are made to be excited for the day it finally happens. I remember as a Mia Maid we made "marriage capsuls" and thinking back now, NONE of it was about the actual day. How distressing it must be to go to the temple and get this????? I am so happy I lucked out on leaving at 18. I do wish I had had your book back then. Healing from religious trauma is a hard bitter road but I would never want it to have happened another way. Life is so much kinder and joyful outside the Mormon church.
@codename495
@codename495 7 месяцев назад
I remember making those! It was so awful in hindsight. I don’t know what they were thinking.
@ZalazGirl
@ZalazGirl 7 месяцев назад
@@codename495 right? I remember like "naming all my future children" like crazy! We were 13!
@verenakremer6748
@verenakremer6748 5 месяцев назад
what is a marriage capsule?
@christinwatson3037
@christinwatson3037 4 месяца назад
Never did that myself or even heard of it.
@MsDani899
@MsDani899 4 месяца назад
That is what happens when one chooses man-made "religion" over a "relationship" with God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
@sarahnaugle8124
@sarahnaugle8124 5 месяцев назад
I grew up in the Mormon church but my mom, siblings and I left when I was in high school. I was never excited about getting married. So much of my family isn’t Mormon, so inherently I knew a temple wedding would cause conflict and hurt feelings. So my association with getting married was always negative. I didn’t realize how ingrained this was until my husband and I started talking about getting married and I dreaded the idea of having a wedding despite not being Mormon anymore. My husband and I had a courthouse wedding a few years ago. Our son was the only one in attendance. It was perfect for my level of comfort but I’m also a little sad that the concept of a wedding was ruined for me. Might have to do a vow renewal someday if it feels right
@whitemoonwolf13
@whitemoonwolf13 3 месяца назад
i would encourage it. everything you love, venue, dress, food, all your choice. even if you only have 10 people there. make it a fancy/special party.
@sarahnaugle8124
@sarahnaugle8124 2 месяца назад
@@whitemoonwolf13 love that idea!
@whitemoonwolf13
@whitemoonwolf13 2 месяца назад
@@sarahnaugle8124 my husband and i are doing that since we got married during covid and i am very excited, doing it on halloween so it's basically just a big costume party XD
@melaniecossey1508
@melaniecossey1508 6 месяцев назад
I totally feel you, girl. I was a Jehovah's Witness and I wasn't allowed to have my own sister (not a Witness) or my best friend (also not a Witness) in my wedding party. I'm still traumatized by this 30 years later.
@julierobertson148
@julierobertson148 4 месяца назад
Please don't let such thoughts corrode your life. I introduced my best friend to her eventual husband, testified in their behalf to the priest who married them, and couldn't be a member of their wedding party because I wasn't Catholic I attended their nuptial mass and they knew I was there for them. Later, in 1976, I became a Witness. When my college sweetheart (not a Witness) and I decided to marry, I understood and accepted we couldn't be married in the Kingdom Hall, so we exchanged vows in front of his eldest brother's fireplace in the presence of both our families. It was only one day out of over 33 loving years we had together. Your wedding day was just a beginning. Think about it.
@Rockzilla1122
@Rockzilla1122 Месяц назад
​@@julierobertson148 cult member begone 🧹💥
@VersieKilgannon
@VersieKilgannon 7 месяцев назад
The whole white wedding dress wasn't even a thing until Queen Victoria wore it for her own wedding. And it wasn't about purity. It was about flaunting that she had the money to spend on an outfit she was only going to wear once. It made her a fashion icon, of course because she set a trend for all brides in the western world. But people who push the purity idea are wrong. But that's what happens when a precedent is set. We keep the precedent but forget the actual reason. Then we treat it like it's something sacred instead of mere coincidence and treat anyone who doesn't follow the rules like an agent of pure evil 😅
@katie7748
@katie7748 7 месяцев назад
Yes. White was also the customary funeral/mourning color until her husband died, after which she wore only black until her own death...except for her Jubilee...
@VersieKilgannon
@VersieKilgannon 7 месяцев назад
@@katie7748 now that I didn't know. So she set a precedent twice?
@NatalieGperd
@NatalieGperd 7 месяцев назад
She actually wore her wedding dress many times! In her time, the wedding dress was just the nicest thing in your closet. Obviously, being royal, she got a dress specifically for her wedding. She chose white as it would be the best for showing the intricacies of the lace on her gown. But she wore it many times, in the christenings of her children, and even her son Leopolds wedding.
@jojobookish9529
@jojobookish9529 7 месяцев назад
​@@stacy6994People have made the white wedding dress about purity in the years since Victoria, but prior to her it was absolutely not the normal or expected thing for anyone to wear at their wedding. The wealthy had new dresses made just for their weddings (maybe white, but not necessarily) but everyone else just wore their best set of clothes (likely the same outfit they typically wore to church).
@caldy206
@caldy206 7 месяцев назад
It used to be married in black, buried in white.
@HeleneLogan
@HeleneLogan 6 месяцев назад
You had me at your tagline "I gave up eternal life for coffee"...interesting content, well presented. Subscribed. Wishing you the best!
@suzyvance7328
@suzyvance7328 4 месяца назад
Romans 8: 38,39. I like coffee too...
@MsDani899
@MsDani899 4 месяца назад
I am not a coffee drinker but looking forward to the Rapture and my eternal life in heaven, leaving this wretched messed up world behind. I left man-made religion years ago for a relationship with God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. You must be born again. John 3:3 reads: Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”
@cherylmaden5989
@cherylmaden5989 Месяц назад
You just gave me a whole new appreciation for tank tops❤😂
@LadyJanie
@LadyJanie 7 месяцев назад
I had a coworker that gave her baby up for adoption. She was mormon but wasnt active. The adoptive mom asked her to come to their familys sealing. I told her not to go that it would be so painful. She went anyway and they made her stay outside the temple as the adoptive mom went inside and was sealed to her baby for all eternity. Not only was it low key shaming it was a slap in the face to her. She called me weeping. I could not believe the adoptive mom pressued her to go to that.
@EsmereldaPea
@EsmereldaPea 7 месяцев назад
That's REALLY manipulative, not to mention horribly cruel and inhumane.
@clareerickson9136
@clareerickson9136 7 месяцев назад
It is intended to be mean and cruel. My only child got married in the temple it was so painful and they loved seeing our pain. Mormonism is disgusting and as evil as satanism. May the rot in HELL.
@TheMuirite
@TheMuirite 7 месяцев назад
That’s awful
@MGQ888
@MGQ888 7 месяцев назад
That is horrifying and cruel.
@DarkFire1536
@DarkFire1536 7 месяцев назад
That makes me sick. I am adopted, so I was sealed to my parents , as were my sister and brother. I can't imagine my parents asking the biological mother to attend. That is so gross. I am so sorry for your friend.
@rosesbaker
@rosesbaker 6 месяцев назад
I must say THANK YOU!!! My family left the Mormon Church before I was born. As you can imagine, I have multiple family members -- and they are still in the church, including Bishops. As I was growing up, many of my cousins did their missions and had temple weddings (of which we of course could not attend).... I am so pleased you are doing this presentation -- I am 75 now and over the years my friends have had a hard time believing the explanations I would share ... I will be sharing this posting. You have done a great job -- very clear and concise. Keep up the good work!! 👍
@thisislydiarae
@thisislydiarae 7 месяцев назад
As a Lutheran Christian woman, I find the marriage aspect of Mormonism so interesting and so sad. In traditional Christianity, marriage is something in the life that does not carry over into heaven. Marriage is a gift and blessing that God gives us in this life, but it will not change our heavenly life. There is an understanding that men and women take on different roles in a marriage, but both the man and women are fundamentally equal before Christ. As such, both widows and widowers are permitted to remarry on equal footing, since we know that in heaven, we will neither be married nor given in marriage. We enter the marriage as equals, because we are both equal before God in the end.
@katie7748
@katie7748 7 месяцев назад
THIS 🎯🎯🎯
@lisabenoit5147
@lisabenoit5147 7 месяцев назад
Loved reading this. I was searching through to see if anyone commented on the Truth of our Heavenly life, that of spiritual life and was so grateful to see how you beautifully shared. And to all who read, may the Lord continue to lead you to the Truth, whole Truth and nothing but the Truth of God in the fulfillment of Christ. Thank you for these testimonials of living experiences and for helping to guide people out of the darkness of man-made and misunderstood religious teachings and into the light of relationship with our Heavenly Father.
@heathermichael3987
@heathermichael3987 7 месяцев назад
Yea, I’m Lutheran and I don’t want to be married and I really don’t want to be married in heaven by the time they said you might be divorced in heaven , my response would be hell ya 🎉🎉🎉 let’s party . I would be ushered out in 0 seconds flat .
@laneneal3510
@laneneal3510 7 месяцев назад
And just a bundling between two people is enough. We just make the”legal” thing a must for obvious reasons. All this religious stuff is for control.
@lisabenoit5147
@lisabenoit5147 7 месяцев назад
@@laneneal3510 I certainly understand that perception of religious-ness being controlling and the mere CONCEPT of marriage has grown somewhat confusing through the Ages, but if we broke it all a part a bit more and just paired it to the many thing our Lord says, we might recognize that FINE LINE between Relationship and Religiousness. One is about simple RELATING more intimately [ 1:1] ... while the other is a more CORPORATE way of ordering a more controlled way because it's assembly-based. Any time something becomes more corporal ... more structured as in incorporated, it has to them PLACE more controlling regulations. God simply wanted to RELATE personally ... but because we all relate to God very personally, it's HARD to explain those personal WAYS. So the global church tends to DEVISE general rules ... and yes, it tends to control the thought flow ... but it's ALSO why Jesus reminds up to ALSO keep things set apart and intimate. The Word [ marriage ] is about uniting two into One. People tend to relate that only to human beings ... but anything can become married. Two train cars become married when they are COUPLED together. Flour and oil marries to form dough. In HEAVEN ... its non-material ... its simply a WORD. A CONCEPT in and of itself. We Spirit Beings hold many marriages down here in that MATERIAL world, and I'm not talking formal matrimony. We BLEND our works all the time and sometimes ... we actually, formally commit relationally to one other person. Marriage is just a WORD that can REFER to many things. Release it from meaning only one thing, and everything else in scripture starts to make more sense. Be blessed.
@holasoyalicia
@holasoyalicia 4 месяца назад
Alyssa, you are very courageous in telling your story. A lot of Christians don't understand Mormonism. Fascinating!! Thank you.
@brandielynn9201
@brandielynn9201 6 месяцев назад
I was that girl. Who had to cancel her temple wedding after confessing to her bishop some things. Then had to wait a year. Honestly, a blessing in disguise because I had a regular ceremony and a year of a somewhat normal life before going through the temple. I threw up in the days following my endowment. Got sealed anyway because I honestly was afraid of not going to the celestial kingdom with my husband. Took 13 more years for me to fully leave. This was very therapeutic, thank you!
@brandielynn9201
@brandielynn9201 6 месяцев назад
Oh and Ps. We had the SAME name. Holy shit
@lisagrace6471
@lisagrace6471 6 месяцев назад
WOW it is so eye opening to me to hear how much women are throwing up and getting sick over this- very telling to me and so so sad and scary. ;(
@worldadventuretravel
@worldadventuretravel 5 месяцев назад
What happens if the sex is bad? You're a virgin, you get married "for time and all eternity," then you go to bed with this man and you're stuck with him forever but the sex SUCKS. What then?
@brandielynn9201
@brandielynn9201 5 месяцев назад
Unfortunately in the mormon religion and several other religions, it’s strictly about purity and sex is about having a family and babies, not so much about pleasure. Even if the sex isn’t good, there wouldn’t be anything to compare it to if those getting married are virgins. I think most people just stay quiet in their marriages if this is the outcome. Its super sad.
@homo.sapientissimus
@homo.sapientissimus 5 месяцев назад
​@worldadventuretravel there was a TV show on tlc about mormon woman marrying like 50 men and divorcing them the next day bc of bad sex 😅😅😅 would be easier to leave the church and find yourself a good lover...
@janellemaynard9002
@janellemaynard9002 7 месяцев назад
I really love when you do these longer videos going more in-depth about your knowledge and experience! I know everyone loves the shorts and tiktoks but just so you know, THIS content is also highly loved. I feel like I learn so much.
@rachelgroth7108
@rachelgroth7108 7 месяцев назад
Agree! Longer content!
@alyssadgrenfell
@alyssadgrenfell 7 месяцев назад
That is so sweet of you to say and I've definitely been wanting to branch out into longer content! Now that I have this great equipment my plan is to make one longer video per week! So it's coming!
@s.a.4358
@s.a.4358 7 месяцев назад
Same!! I really like to get the more in depth explanations.
@arbonneladyTN
@arbonneladyTN 7 месяцев назад
@@alyssadgrenfellWell done! As a brand new subscriber I can tell you that I’m impressed with your voice level (smooth) , volume (perfect), intelligence (tops) and clarity (terrific). All of that will have me coming back to hear your content. Have a great day!
@zadiawilson2201
@zadiawilson2201 6 месяцев назад
​@@alyssadgrenfellwhy did you fall away? Not your answer you give to the internet... the real reason. What was it that offended you so badly that you want others to feel offended too? Why? I may not know much about you... but I know the truth. You dont believe me? I FEEL THE TRUTH. you cannot argue with something so personal... feelings, revelation. Though no one may look at this comment and chage their life because of it, I would have you try again, with an open mind and an open heart. Is the church really so cruel? Is it not so perfect? Or are your opinions just inspired by hatred? Have you felt the truth of the gospel? have you TRIED? I know Ive made the effort, and reaped the rewards. I still am. I will never let myself be overcome by the world. Rather, I will overcome it.
@mermaidnurse17
@mermaidnurse17 7 месяцев назад
My grandmother was a young widow. My grandpa died tragically while theu still had 3 minor children between the ages of 8 and 17. She was didnt want to live her life "without companionship" so she intentionally remarried someone she didnt love but liked as a friend because she was unwilling to be sealed to anyone else and she thought if she loved the person she married it would be an insult to his memory. When that marriage fell apart she remarried again to someone that she did not love again. That man divorced her when she got cancer. Both of these men were also widowers and mormon. The second husband stayed close to our family as a good friend. I didnt even know she was married a third time until I was a teenager and my aunt and bio mom told me how traumatizing these experianced were to their family.
@rachelgroth7108
@rachelgroth7108 7 месяцев назад
Your poor grandmother. How awful and isolating..
@mermaidnurse17
@mermaidnurse17 7 месяцев назад
@@stacy6994 I dont disagree. She made a lot of really poor choices and thought processes she had in grief. It was a choice she made because she was unwilling to get a temple divorce. She personaly felt it was a disrespect to her first husband whom she loved very deeply. She believed love was eternal and if she loved the next husband and refused to temple divorce her first husband it was a disrespect to the 2nd husband. Better to marry someone you think will be an envestment in helping raise your children and split househlld expense. After her 3rd marriage ended she found an apprciation for romance novels and moved in with her children who were all adults by that point and was overall much happier. All this happened before I was born. I learned about all this decades after the fact but apparently she was very open about her motives at the time. Grief makes people do ridiculous things.
@andreameeuwsen6060
@andreameeuwsen6060 6 месяцев назад
How wonderful that you and your husband left the church together. I have heard about some couples that have one person that is determined to leave and the other person too scared to leave. Blessings to you and your husband. I really liked your video. What a strange way to get married...
@WelshLadOfficial
@WelshLadOfficial 6 месяцев назад
In the U.K. Mormon Temple Weddings aren’t acknowledged, so it’s a civil wedding in the morning and then they travel up to the temple, for the temple marriage same afternoon. It’s great a non members and inactive members can be part of the day.
@wishicouldspel
@wishicouldspel 7 месяцев назад
control, control, control. Did i say Control.
@anniewilliams2876
@anniewilliams2876 7 месяцев назад
As an adoptee, i had a unique experience with sealings. Got sealed to my adoptive parents when i was 15, one of them had already been dead for several years so his youngest son was a proxy for him. The whole experience was terrifying since there wasnt any explanation for anything since i hadnt been endowed and wasnt "allowed" to know anything. I even had to cover my eyes at multiple points. Im working on leaving now, but its a hard process when your entire family drilled into you that theres nothing outside of the church. (Happily living with 2 wonderful and supportive partners helping me through this and many other transitions in my life)
@VensVibrantNailsandBeauty
@VensVibrantNailsandBeauty 7 месяцев назад
Have you ever considered talking with Cults to Consciousness about your unique experience? I would absolutely listen to your interview/story.
@arbonneladyTN
@arbonneladyTN 7 месяцев назад
Stay strong! Also I have found interesting videoes with Mormon Stories, people who have left my cult ‘religions’.
@denisemorrow8602
@denisemorrow8602 7 месяцев назад
My family was sealed at the temple in salt lake, it was a weird experience for an eight year old
@lizwink5909
@lizwink5909 7 месяцев назад
I'm not exmormon, but ex-evangelical, and having multiple loving partners has been so healing for me too 💚 good luck
@anniewilliams2876
@anniewilliams2876 7 месяцев назад
@@VensVibrantNailsandBeauty ive thought about it! I might have to look more into it now haha
@SheilaStone-fl5wb
@SheilaStone-fl5wb 5 месяцев назад
Good for you girl! I live in Utah and work in a therapeutic practice. I have so many women and men i work with so this is great information and provides really good insight into what happens to people and my ability to understand what is behind some of their experiences
@Tmoo8242
@Tmoo8242 7 месяцев назад
I’ve never been LDS, but the name mishap made me laugh (in commiseration!) When my husband and I got married almost 25 years ago, the preacher who was set to officiate had to rush to his father (in another state) who was about to pass away. We had 2-3 days to secure another preacher, and the only available person was my elderly great-grandmother’s preacher (also ancient). He had no clue who hubby and I were, so he had a piece of paper with our names written on it inside the open Bible he was holding! 😂 “Do you… looks at note… take… looks at note…” Our wedding was quite the disaster (this is the tip of the iceberg), but we’re still together! 😊 Thanks for sharing on this channel, so we non-LDS viewers can learn more about your experiences and the church.
@wishicouldspel
@wishicouldspel 7 месяцев назад
May I ask? Why so much focus on the ceremony? I don't recall much about mine. Ask me about my marriage.. 31 years of smiles. all the way.
@andrearomero9920
@andrearomero9920 7 месяцев назад
I really appreciate the explanation on your videos, my whole family is Mormon (parents, brothers, etc) and I was for some part of my life as a kid and teenager, but I decided to stop attending the Sunday meetings when I was like 18-19, it was very hard for me cause of course my whole family were expecting me to be a Mormon girl and marry a guy who served a mission, and of course that give me a lot of trouble with my self esteem 😢 but looking backwards I think that was the most courageous thing I could do for myself at that time. Thank you for making this videos exposing all the fucked up things that make Mormonism a cult
@jackiehoracek
@jackiehoracek 7 месяцев назад
Joseph Smith was a Masooon.
@CoronaryArteryDisease.
@CoronaryArteryDisease. 7 месяцев назад
You made the right decision, and you will look back knowing you followed your own moral compass, which is important!
@carolynw5171
@carolynw5171 4 месяца назад
Happy for you and your husband to be free. I was raised Mormon from an infant and left in my early 20's. My dad wasn't a Mormon, but the rest of family is. When i became a Christian 25 years ago, I've been rejected most of the time, even taken out of the will! I'll take God's peace and love any day over "being worthy". God bless you dear girl.
@littlemj90
@littlemj90 7 месяцев назад
I'm from the UK and legally you have to be married by someone who has the right certification to marry you so you can't get married in the temple. It doesn't work with Scottish/English etc marriage laws. There used to be a strict rule that you had to get sealed within 24hrs of your legal marriage or you had to wait 1 year. I know it has changed now by the church. I never got to that point of the temple and im bloody glad i didn't
@annaneu9954
@annaneu9954 7 месяцев назад
Same here in Germany. I remember my best friend getting married on a Friday in a civil ceremony which I as a non Mormon attended. Than she did a long trip to the temple on Saturday - almost didn’t make it due to traffic - and had the reception on Saturday evening back at her local Mormon centre. If weddings are stressful, this one was extra…
@DebbraUK
@DebbraUK 6 месяцев назад
It's actually because in the UK the law says that a wedding has to take place in a place where anyone can attend ( presumably so people having just cause to stop the wedding can go ahead!). As temples are not open to the public, legal weddings cannot take place there. In the UK church members usually get married in their local meetinghouse and then go to the temple to be sealed.
@adriandunne4382
@adriandunne4382 5 месяцев назад
In Germany religious marriages are not recognised civilly due to Roman Civil Law therefore all religious marriages must occur separately after the civil ceremony.
@howieroarke
@howieroarke 7 месяцев назад
Note that you are asked to promise to keep all the "laws, rights and ordinances pertaining to this holy order of matrimony" without them ever being explained to you.
@alexia3552
@alexia3552 6 месяцев назад
Violation of consent
@Bonbongirly
@Bonbongirly 6 месяцев назад
So you don’t know how to be faithful and true to your spouse?
@EvelinHolmes
@EvelinHolmes 6 месяцев назад
@@Bonbongirlyone can be faithful without the church . And know way would I give up 10% of my earnings . I worked for that not the church .
@lebabies
@lebabies 3 месяца назад
The temple prayers are garbledygook, sounding like someone who was trying to imitate the King James bible but wasn’t smart enough to do it.
@formerreplygirl3360
@formerreplygirl3360 2 месяца назад
That's exactly what I thought when I lived in Utah and my Dad let missionaries come in 😂 they started reading the Book of Mormon and I said " this is like Bible fanfic"
@ThestuffthatSaralikes
@ThestuffthatSaralikes 7 месяцев назад
Girl. If ANY couple deserves a LOVE FILLED HAPPY DAY in a dress you LOVE… it’s y’all. Y’all are SO brave to leave the cult and go do your own thing… bless you and y’all’s wonderful life.❤
@andyjones7514
@andyjones7514 7 месяцев назад
It's not a cult.
@peachymunmagenta
@peachymunmagenta 7 месяцев назад
@@andyjones7514 ​​⁠…If you don’t believe Mormonism is a cult, why are you here??
@astronaut2317
@astronaut2317 7 месяцев назад
@@andyjones7514any organization that restricts your connection to your loved ones based on arbitrary doctrine IS a cult. LDS is a cult.
@katie7748
@katie7748 7 месяцев назад
​@andyjones7514 it is tho 🤷‍♀️
@hainesnadine4932
@hainesnadine4932 5 месяцев назад
I would be verry happy to be blessed only with my husband with patriarche because it is for eternity the convenant is for the both of you and make a special reception with the family.
@1littlepeach
@1littlepeach 6 месяцев назад
Hi, I want to thank to thank you for being so open and honest. I left the Mormons 31yrs ago and I’m 66 now, (to be honest I was excommunicated) but I have NEVER been able to talk about the temple proceedings to my husband. Basically I still had the fear of retribution but thanks to you I finally realised I could talk to him about it all. You are a blessing. xx
@BunnyWatson-k1w
@BunnyWatson-k1w 7 месяцев назад
Wedding night speculation at 33:29. The same happens in evangelical church weddings. Most couples remain virgins until after the wedding. What no one speculates is all the sexual dysfunction that will occur in the marriage as a result of body and sex shaming the couple from a young age. Most will be disappointed on their wedding night.
@smudgepuss
@smudgepuss 7 месяцев назад
And then the women will probably have to work through the baggage of no longer being 'pure' in an environment that's spent her whole life telling her that her 'purity' is the main thing that makes her a 'suitable' partner rather than anything about her as a person.
@sunflowervibes3041
@sunflowervibes3041 7 месяцев назад
Oh you totally nailed this! It's like going from 0 to 60 because you're expected to not even THINK about sex and then suddenly "please your husband so he doesn't want to cheat on you." It's so much pressure and my pastor's wife told me that it would hurt - so of course I didn't say anything for a long time because I didn't want to disappoint my new husband. Terrible... Not to mentioned that as soon as we returned from our 5 day honeymoon (basically just crying and being scared) every single church member suddenly wanted to desperately know when 18 year old me would be getting pregnant :( I do have a happy ending though because unlike most women who get married really young, I was encouraged to grow and be honest by my also really young husband. He and I both struggled with reconciling our upbringings about traditional gender roles and all of the expectations that were sold to us - but he really gave me freedom in a way that no one else had before.
@jacalynmiller
@jacalynmiller 7 месяцев назад
wow what an exaggeration! Any stats to go with that? Didn't apply in my case, and not in the case of many others I know as well. I'm not sure where all this hate is coming from - are there some bad LDS members out there who cause trauma? Wow. Move to my area, things will get better!
@gz5405
@gz5405 7 месяцев назад
@@jacalynmillerseriously asking with no hate: do you guys monitor exmormon videos/stories? And do you do it to persuade people to come to Mormonism or come back to Mormonism? I always see a few of you in these videos and it’s always something like “it’s not that bad/ Ex Mormons are just exaggerating/everything worked out for me” which yk is fine but how do you come across these things?
@BunnyWatson-k1w
@BunnyWatson-k1w 7 месяцев назад
@@jacalynmiller Unfortunately personal experience and friends are not stats. People tend to use local social circles as representation of all experience. There are decades of data collected by psychologists, sociologists, clinical social workers, and marriage and family counsellors that show shaming sexuality does have an affect on sexual satisfaction in marriage. It is not waiting until marriage that is necessarily the problem. It the attitudes and beliefs about sexuality that are important. Evangelicals are one guilty party where this occurs. Also in LDS culture the attitudes towards sex can cause severe problems in marriage. Many couples do report dysfunction. It isn't the case in each marriage, but there is cause for concern among professionals who publish the data.
@JettAndJaseTootToot
@JettAndJaseTootToot 5 месяцев назад
I went to a wedding at a Temple in Utah County. I'm about 100%% sure the groom agreed to marry in the Temple to keep her from leaving. Its kind of like, "Or else" if you don't get sealed in the Temple. I wasn't allowed in the ceremony for the obvious reason that I am non-LDS. I felt a little embarrassed because I didn't know why I was invited to the Temple if I couldn't actually go in. I had to wait in the waiting room, with one of the brother in-laws, cool guy, I kept thinking to myself, "I know why I can't watch the ceremony, but why isn't he allowed in the ceremony?". He is LDS 😂. It's a different religion for sure. One more thing when someone is sealed, for example grandparents, and on person dies. They can move on and get seated to someone else. So that person is in a celestial kingdom waiting for all of eternity and their Earth spouse is sealed to a new person! Nobody has been able to make sense of this to me. One LDS person said, "Oh its because in heaven they have different planets for their spouses". ...ohhhhh ooookay
@codykimmons7186
@codykimmons7186 7 месяцев назад
I dated a Mormon for a bit, he always HATED how much makeup I wore and how I dressed. Often shaming me out loud and to his friends. He tried to convert me because he could never marry a non Mormon. He was honestly awful, and gave me so many complexes! He even once said to his friends in front of me that I wasn’t Mrs Right but I was Misses Right now. I really appreciate you telling your story and it truly affirms that I dodged an awful bullet.
@mylesmarkson1686
@mylesmarkson1686 7 месяцев назад
Mormons aren't supposed to be looking for Misses Right Now. That's a big no-no, and he's lucky he got away with that type of behavior.
@jlcl96
@jlcl96 7 месяцев назад
I’m glad you got away from that controlling, judgmental guy. I hope you’ll end up with someone who loves you however you want to be.
@DarkFire1536
@DarkFire1536 7 месяцев назад
I am so glad he didn't suck you in. Sounds like a creep.
@zadiawilson2201
@zadiawilson2201 6 месяцев назад
Dont judge thousands of people because of one guy. Im sure you'd find someone judgmental in every community and in every religion. While I am sorry that happened to you, I would invite you to not stoop as low as hating on the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints. I have found more joy in it then in any other aspect of my life. We strive to get to a point in which we can set our standards high enough that we can overcome the physical body, all it's wants and desires, longings and hungers. Sometimes, we want other to be able to feel the joy we feel when we do that, and some people may take it too far. I hope this helps you understand. We are taught not to judge, but we are all human. No one should expect anyone else to be perfect. That is reserved for our Lord and our Savior. They are perfect and know what's best for us, even when WE don't know what's best for us. Our church is a hospital, for the unperfect. If we were perfect, we wouldn't need it. That's the beauty of it! To make unperfect people perfect EVENTUALLY. not in this lifetime, but still eventually. I digress. I hope you understand what points I've attempted to get across.
@janet-Spirit_of_the_Living_God
@janet-Spirit_of_the_Living_God 6 месяцев назад
@@zadiawilson2201 I've read several of your comments and they are full of what the Bible calls "will worship" that you''re striving and behaving and trying, all of human effort to reach some perfect end point. If you are like me you might like the structure and the goals, but that is not God, that is religion. That is not Biblical Christianity where we choose to humble ourselves and follow Jesus,, and the natural indwelling of the new life with the Holy Spirit, empowers that change over our lifetimes. The Bible says our own efforts are as filthy rags to God, otherwise why else would God send Himself to pay for our penalty of sin? Read the New Testament one sentence at a time like a child would and come to the real Jesus, Author, Savior and Finisher of our faith.
@lililululalabooboo
@lililululalabooboo 7 месяцев назад
My very first endowment session some mental lady sitting behind me kept yanking my head piece down every time I tried to fit it comfortably on my head. After the 3rd or 4th time a temple worker almost got up to say something but then sat back down. My fiance and his mom, everyone in there just stayed silent. I was so set on being positive snd having a spiritual experience that I did not turn and tell her to stop. Everyone with me just ignored it too.
@rachelgroth7108
@rachelgroth7108 7 месяцев назад
Creepy
@rachelgroth7108
@rachelgroth7108 7 месяцев назад
Sounds like a pre cursor for life in an ominous way.
@lililululalabooboo
@lililululalabooboo 7 месяцев назад
@@rachelgroth7108 it 100% was. My temple marriage was very lonely and I completely lost myself in the roles of traditional wife and stay at home mom. My needs, comforts, desires, and dreams were never allowed space. I have since left the church and that marriage, starting over but centering myself this time.
@JustGG1956
@JustGG1956 5 месяцев назад
I was baptized in 1996 and I wish I knew more before that. The elders tell you what they are taught to tell you. I moved around quite a bit; I was basically a visitor everywhere I went and my final move to Indiana brought me to an LDS church I planned to stay at. I was never married and had no interest in becoming married. The officials at my church learned I had not yet received my endowment. Here it was 2003, and finally was able to prepare for my endowment. I found the entire day, from beginning to end to be more than just weird. It was everything I believed a religion should not do. Very ritualistic, very mapped; being touched while naked under a fabric flap, and watching members of my church chant while standing around a pentagram; my stomach turned. I could not wait to get the heck out of there and every minute that passed I promised GOD that if HE could get me home safely I would NEVER go to any Temple ever again as long as I live.
@JustGG1956
@JustGG1956 5 месяцев назад
BTW: I refuse to do anything for anyone who will use my "given" name. I figure if they know that much, they are in on the whole scary thing.
@lalaithan
@lalaithan 5 месяцев назад
Yikes, I don't blame you for being creeped out and leaving permanently. There are ways to worship God that are far from creepy/wildly uncomfortable.
@flossiepal
@flossiepal 5 месяцев назад
Those rituals sound very Satanic. I actually believe the Mormon church is satanic in nature. What better way to deceive the people into believing they are actually worshiping God than starting a church that will redirect their thought and belief system.
@ChubbyChic
@ChubbyChic 5 месяцев назад
Good for you.
@PamelaRay-l7x
@PamelaRay-l7x 5 месяцев назад
Oh man, God bless you! I had no idea that some of their practices were so, well almost satanic. I can’t look at a pentagram and not see evil. I’m so glad you got out.❤
@Isha-vy8rg
@Isha-vy8rg 7 месяцев назад
I got to see a temple before it was consecrated!! It was quite an experience, beautiful - but what they likely thought was beautiful, and serene, I found kind of eerie. They talked about where all the marble was brought in from, and other high-end finishing, and it felt opulent in a bad way.
@ElleKay4Life
@ElleKay4Life 7 месяцев назад
I agree! I was like wow is this a high end spa! And so many rooms where you wonder what goes on…
@LadyJanie
@LadyJanie 7 месяцев назад
Not to mention after it's dedicated only mormons can work on it. So money laundering starts happening. Like, "oh, let's repaint this mural for 1 million and let my brother do it".
@luannnelson547
@luannnelson547 7 месяцев назад
I toured one several years ago. I thought it was hideously tacky.
@littledrummergirl_19
@littledrummergirl_19 7 месяцев назад
I was telling my sister that seeing pictures the inside of these huge, all white decorated interiors of the temples gives me a creepy, almost uncanny valley feeling and she said it reminds her of a funeral home, and I think that’s accurate Edit: I just looked up photos of the San Antonio temple and another one and it just really gives me “cult but make it REALLY luxury” vibes Edit 2: also strong Art Deco vibes which is cool, but kinda weird
@alicekenny4081
@alicekenny4081 7 месяцев назад
Like a morgue. My husband and i both non mormon, 😂joke about our visit to the LA Temple visitor center seeing the Talking Heads😂😂 😮 Spooky!
@TonyKirkland
@TonyKirkland 7 месяцев назад
Speaking from the perspective of a guy who married a Mormon, it was a colorful journey. She (ex for 20+ years) wasn't a practicing Morman, so my time with her was far closer to normal than the time spent around most folks from Utah. Man, oh, man. The vibe that occurred sometimes was awkward. Her family was extraordinary, and I never once felt uncomfortable around them... We flew back to Utah for our civil ceremony, and when we were out together meeting her friends, I sometimes felt very out of place. I was in a rigorous religious home, so the ceremonial aspect wasn't foreign. Still, the shenanigans that Morman has to adhere to are exponentially more inflated with ritual than my upbringing. She used to joke about the stories regarding the 'magic underpants.' It's strange to me. Mormonism isn't the only faith drenched in symbolism. What truly saddens me is that all that symbolism counts for Zilch at the end of the road. To think that we exist in a world where your book will benefit people is just sad. I've heard it said that the presence of the different types of rituals involved in many religions somehow imparts a significance that would otherwise be missing. The importance lies within the people rather than the ceremony around them. What will it be like when we are all but dust? Who knows until postcards from the afterlife arrive. Why put the extra stress on a young couple just starting out? Their path forward together is already arduous, as is any marriage. The couple can do without the Mormon gasoline on the fire. The level of indoctrination is extreme, indeed. Society says the cults are sinister. Yet, Scientology, Mormonism, and countless other groups exist, and very little is spoken of them. Again, sad, I say. I would love to hear about your current path and how you reconcile the then-you and the now-you. I suspect every day is a step. Find your own way rather than one that hundreds of thousands have followed. Have you received blowback from the Church? I've rambled enough. In closing, thank you for lifting the veil of secrecy (and yours, too! lol) on the topic, as I'm sure many will benefit from your actions.
@vampiricicarus979
@vampiricicarus979 7 месяцев назад
I went to the open house recently, it was interesting. The celestial room was very large, and had a fantastic chandelier. The baptism room was amazing, detail-wise and the architecture was beautiful throughout the building. The little socks we had to wear weren't bad, because their floors were very clean an I didn't want to mess them up anyway. It was super cool, honestly. I wasn't raised Mormon, and don't plan on it, but goddamn if they aren't good at making pretty castles.
@MichaelSmith-fq3pg
@MichaelSmith-fq3pg 7 месяцев назад
They're pretty but after a while it becomes about as interesting and awe inspiring as a hotel lobby.
@lindatohara6438
@lindatohara6438 7 месяцев назад
Jesus isn’t impressed with buildings
@LadyJanie
@LadyJanie 7 месяцев назад
After it's dedicated, that's where the money laundering really starts.
@zadiawilson2201
@zadiawilson2201 6 месяцев назад
Its more than just a "pretty castle." It's the house of the Lord, where ordinances are made and people can be sealed for all eternity! Where love never dies because the physical body does! Where we can give the people who come before us the opportunity to be baptized! It is the most beautiful, holy, and peaceful place. Each and every temple carries that spirit. You should feel so blessed to have stepped inside it. Never in any other place have I felt happier with the most overwhelming and awe-inspiring joy! We are not a cult! What happens in the temple is sacred and eternal for those who are worthy. How do people choose who is and isn't worthy, you may ask... Follow Him. Live His gospel. Repent and mend you ways. Be perfected as much as you can, and step through those doors with your recommend. The greatest gift we've ever been given is the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of God. WE HAVE ACCESS TO IT!!! and I don't know about any of you, but I sure have felt the lasting effects in my life. Going through this comment section, seeing the hate, replyng and trying to be the best missionary I can be... it's helped me realize that I am so blessed to be a part of this church, and I would not give it up for the world! Not because my dress wasn't white enough, not because I was offended by ONE person, and NOT because someone said it wasn't true. I know it's true. I bare my testimony it is! I feel it everytime I kneel to pray, everytime I open my scriptures, read my patriarchal blessing, or even... step into the temple. Not only is the temple the most beautiful thing you can see, but it is the most beautful thing you can feel too, and that's not something easily described. It's very personal to you individually, and no one can argue with what you feel in your heart. That's a place the world can not meddle. Know you are loved. ❤
@lindatohara6438
@lindatohara6438 6 месяцев назад
@@zadiawilson2201 nobody asked you to give it up. That’s the glory of the Lord we get to chose, but He has the final say not your church or any church for that matter. Jesus lives in our hearts not a building Amen
@barbara_d
@barbara_d 6 месяцев назад
I quit attending the church when I was 14/15. I wanted to learn more than Bee Hives and just being a wife and raising babies.
@wildkitties4
@wildkitties4 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for taking the time to share your story. You taught me a lot tonight. I’ve only know a few people who practiced that faith, but never heard any of this. I hope your new wedding is exactly what you wished for.
@kinadelimont528
@kinadelimont528 6 месяцев назад
so much of this is not accurate.
@criszadrozny4015
@criszadrozny4015 6 месяцев назад
Either you've never been to the temple, or you are not being truthful.
@sharon5115
@sharon5115 6 месяцев назад
You poor thing. I'm so glad you and your husband left that controlling cult.
@hippywytch1
@hippywytch1 7 месяцев назад
I noticed that they make you wear the green apron, which is a representation of the fig leaves that Adam and Eve wore in the Garden of Eden, as they covered themselves in shame after God had found out they had eaten the apple, (I digress though). I found it interesting as well. My best friend was Mormon, she passed away in 2005. I was able to attend her funeral in Cedar City, Utah. At her viewing, while she was in the casket, I noticed that she was dressed in the same green apron upon burial. I just thought it was interesting that it is required for both, a wedding and a funeral.
@hollywoodnun
@hollywoodnun 6 месяцев назад
My husband and his family were all Mormons until my husband was 14. It was a real shirt show when they all left (he has three siblings). His Dad was a BYU professor. My husband has an older brother and two younger siblings, so it was a little complicated, but they are such a close family even 30 years later. I am going to buy your book and surprise my husband! I think he will find your story so interesting and get a kick out of it (he is totally fine not being a Mormon anymore). Good for you, doing what you need to do to process your experiences! I am glad you are still together.
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