@@catherinemcdavid1533 - Of course they (the Mormons) strive to be gods, You are twisting my words, which is deceptive. I wrote gods not God. .. It is explained in this video very clearly, as well as in Mormon sources.. What the Mormons believe is heretical and goes against the First Commandment. That they strive to be gods is clearly Luciferian. .
@@finallythere100 How is it Luciferian to strive to be like God? what else are you going to do for the rest of eternity in Heaven if its not striving to be like God? are you just going to lounge around doing fuck all for the rest of eternity? pfft. no. You are going to keep learning, keep progressing, for the next thousand years, then million years, then eternity. Look at how technology has already advanced in the space of 50 years, then multiply that advancement by eternity. If God is the ultimate scientist, he knows all and can do all, because he has an understanding of everything it puts everything in perspective. You think that then we won't eventually know all and be able to do all when we also have our own understanding of everything and how everything works. Soo ignorant. The fact that the Mormon church is the only church that believes this train of thought just proves Mormons are the only ones that can see the bigger picture. Standard Christian churches don't believe in this because they literally ignore it. No other Christian churches have any idea what Heaven would be like and would never present any explanation as to what it would be like because the bible gives limited explainations of Heaven in the Bible, and if anyone tried to explain what happens in Heaven, it would mean admitting Mormons are correct. Please explain if you are not going to further your learning and progression in Heaven then what are you going to do. Come on, try actually think about it logically.
OH! my goodness before I was Catholic I was Baptized in the Mormon Church....I am Re-Baptized in the Catholic Church’s and I cherish my Catholic Faith! and Love Dr. Marshall’s webinars Thank you!
meditation music Correct, but Mormon baptisms are invalid because they don't believe in one God, the Trinity etc.. Their understandings of Father, Son and Holy Spirit are crazy different.
I've had a few 'Mormon' neighbors over the years - today I finally comprehend their behaviors - this definitely helps towards lowering my stress of not knowing where someone's intentions are ... thank you
Taylor, I like this version of you so much better! You are more joyous, relaxed and actually delivering some really practical and helpful tools for everyone. God Bless!
@@metanoiafaith No. He is right, and one of the only ones speaking up about the state of the Church. Pius the XI's wrote about satanic optimism. Material cheeriness and optimism are not Christian
@@jimmybobby4824 Sowing despair and sensationalism without offering holy solutions is not "right". Pius the XI's quote about "satanic optimism" was about capitalism and communism sharing their satanic optimism, nothing to do with being a debbie downer about the state of the Church just for the sake of complaining.
I was baptized and raised Catholic as was a cousin of mine. He met a Mormon woman and married her and converted to Mormon. She passed away last year. Should I forward this video to him to try to get him back in the Catholic Church?
Pat Aherne Well, I passed this on to him and he replied, “Did you really just send me This?” He told me to stay in my lane and not criticize how he worships. I also added that since (his Mormon wife’s name) has passed, he should go back to the Church he was born into and make his parents proud. He said “Don’t you worry about my soul.” I said, “Wow, Okay then.” and he said “Yeah Wow.” It saddens me how he reacted and I put in a “☹️” to show him. They really have him brainwashed.
@@dam4274 I wish I had caught this before you sent the video out. I suggest you play the role of the student and make him the teacher by asking questions. For example, I am curious about Mormonism could you answer a few questions for me? Where is the DNA evidence to prove that Native American populations are descended from the Lamanites? Another good question: Where is the archeological evidence to support the armies that battled to the death (thousands) in North America around the time of Jesus, as postulated by the Book of Mormon? Check out the biblechristiansociety.com and catholic.com for additional information. Take care.
Tim K Even in history I’ve never heard of any major battles that took place that you speak of. I don’t know anything of the Lamanites either. The digging going on on Oak Island is continually giving clues to North America’s past history. Some day from some book we’ll find out about about the Lamanites and their whereabouts.
Yes because they believe that Archangel Michael who was created by Jesus Christ, Is Jesus Christ LOL 😂 , they will tell you this once you start visiting their Kingdom Halls and start the road to entering the Jehovah Witnesses, I almost entered into the religion I stopped talking to them after they told me I needed to become narrow minded and dress up in only a dress. I told them no longer wanted to study or visit their Halls and for them to not return & I immediately started throwing away their books and stuff and Pulled out all my Catholic Books and Bibles and started repenting to Jesus Christ & I have never ever looked back to doing anything else with Jehovah Witnesses ever since, I’m solely wanting to be a Catholic and enter the Catholic church officially soon .
I know this is an old video but I wanted to put my 2 cents in terms of refuting LDS Missionaries. As a return missionary myself and former Mormon, one of the biggest things you can do to help LDS members is bring up their church history. I.E. Joseph looking in a hat with stones, marrying 14 year olds, Joseph having a gun in jail, Mountain Meadows Massacre etc. You'd be surprised at how often members don't know their own history because its not taught in church. Missionaries are taught exactly what to teach, these 4 points brought up in the video aren't part of the "script" and they might not even know about it hence their hesitation in answering deep doctrine questions. To mormons, it all comes down to faith and feeling, no matter how much truth you bring to them or how great you are at refuting their points, they will almost always fall back on faith. Their conversion like mine may take years but they'll remember the meetings you had (I remember having discussions with a catholic priest while on my mission) and it helped bring me out of the faith. Cheers.
+1 here brother. While a Mormon missionary I could not help myself wanting to go to Mass and visited Catholic Churches regularly, talking with priests and lay people as well as Protestant teachers. My return talk was the last time I went to the Mormon church (other than funerals) and my talk sounded a lot like St Thomas Aquinas and I didn’t even know about him at the time. Re reading it now 25 years later I realized I was always “Catholic” and didn’t know it until I joined the faith in my 30s. The real problem with Mormon theology in the end is that it leads them away from true worship of Christ, and many who leave the Mormon church do so because they hate and resent God because they never understood Him to begin with.
@@datahamster5810 Your story speaks to my own journey, though not a missionary. I recently learned I'd always been "Catholic," knowing my spiritual hunger could only be sated by the One True God - the Triune - and the peace I have received from that revelation is like nothing I have felt. Pax Christi -
@Storm Trooper Mic I am so happy I got out of the Catholic Church. Why does looking into a hat bother you so much? Maybe if he just hid under a blanket that would make it more palatable to you? And here you are speaking about Joseph marrying a 14 year old. Do you know anything about that 14 year old? Do you know who she is or the circumstances surrounding that "marriage"? Based on your comments... I would say NO. Do you know anything about the laws of the land in the 1800's concerning marriage? The laws in the United States? Do you know anything about age of consent? Or even age of consent laws in the United States in the 1800's? Something again tells me NO... you have no idea. Any idea how old Mary... the mother of Christ was when she got married? Yes... missionaries are taught what to say. But it is the Holy Ghost that testifies of the truthfulness of what they are teaching. They don't need to know "everything" to teach the Gospel. Thank goodness someone of your mind set never taught me.
@@MrNirom1 Looking into the hat isn't the problem. You weren't raised in the church so you never attended primary, seminary, EFY, served a mission(depending on when you converted) so you weren't taught these things over the course of your whole life. The LDS church doesn't teach that Joseph Smith looked into a hat or the fact that he didn't even use the gold plates during the translation, (they do acknowledge these things now with the release of the book series Saints or something like that). I was raised to believe that Joseph Smith physical used the gold plates for translation and that he only used the power of God to do so, not a seer stone. Why alter the way it was done and teach it in church? LOL your logic is basically, because it was legal back then it shouldn't be a problem. So is slavery ok to you then? That was legal during that time. Should we just accept those people for who they were, i mean they weren't doing anything wrong right? They had human beings as property but it was OK in the US. Clearly Gods law is only subject to the laws of the current time.... I'm sure I know more about ALL of Josephs wives than you, and I know that marrying others wives while they were still married was illegal during that time. The same was true with polygamy in Illinois. So pick a side already, either go with Gods law or US law during that time. Can't have both or else God approves of slavery since Brigham Young taught that they were inferior and descendants of Cain and Ham. Yeah, I know that Mary was around 16? when giving birth to Jesus. I don't think we have the exact age. The difference between Catholics teaching of the virgin birth and the LDS version of the birth is that the LDS version has God physically come down and have sex with Mary. I was taught this in youth. Catholics teach she conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit without intercourse. How can God have sex with someone that he isn't married to when according to the LDS church, you should only have sex in marriage. Also, you do realize that if you make it to the celestial kingdom and in order to continue progression you must practice polygamy right? You and your wife (assuming your married) are ready for that? and if the Holy Ghost is the deciding factor of whether something is true or not it shouldn't have made any difference who taught you. The Holy Ghost would have testified all the same. And for the record, you can believe whatever you want to believe but don't try to use "facts" as an argument and then ignore the lack of facts provided by the church in its teachings. We wouldn't be having this conversation if the LDS church was truthful with its history and didn't omit facts. God Bless.
@Russell Weber Just because the Catholic Church calls Peter their "First Pope" does not make it true. I will bet you 1000000 donuts that he had no idea what a pope was. So he didn't signup for the job as the dictates of what the Catholic Church stands for. He might have been the leader of the 12 Apostles... and a prophet because he received revelation from God... (we know this because Jesus even said he did) but being the head of the Catholic Church was not one of them. It was not even called the Catholic Church then. Gibberish? I guess when speaking from books that are ancient and using old words... they can seem like gibberish to the unlearned... but it is at the fault of the hearer... not the speaker. Yea... white women that smoke, guzzle coffee, etc... and can't speak about things spiritual are a real catch. Just how crazy are Jehovah witnesses? And all those christian identity people that you call knuckleheads that you consider lost souls? Just the word Christianity stands for the belief in Jesus Christ. Just can't see the value having Mary appear and not teach something to the people. What did she say? What did she teach? What did she reveal? Of course I am asking the person who has so much knowledge that he can call other people knuckleheads. What miracles did she preform? Teach us oh wise one.
Dr. Taylor, I thank you for this subject. I was baptized Mormon as a child and had a troubled relationship with Our Father :) As an adult, I became spiritually hungry and found succor only in the church founded by Jesus Christ - the one Holy Catholic church. I'm not yet baptized as I only rediscovered my faith in April but I attend Mass daily and pray the Rosary daily. It's full on N.O., Doctor. Lavender as all get out but Our Lord is present in the Holy Eucharist, by the principle of ex opere operato; I believe it is the Body and Blood. Thank you for lifting the lamp of the Holy Spirit in what you do, guiding souls to Jesus, through Our Mother, Mary. God Bless - Pax Christi
Wow, you can see the corruption and the truth as well. It amazes me that someone from outside would still want to come in seeing the pope we have and what he and his minions are doing. I can't walk away because Jesus is here in the Eucharist. Your faith gives me hope.
Thank you so much Dr Taylor Marshal. You are a true Apostle of Our Lord Jesus. Thank you for all your videos. They are a constant inspiration. I praise The Lord for sending you to educate and inspire Catholics and non Catholics alike. May God Bless you and keep you and your family.
Freemasons are required to believe in God and worship God. If you worship the devil or take an obligation that conflicts with your duty to God or man, you will be expelled, so to speak, from Free Masonry.
@@evanleclaire Yes, but the freemason understanding of God is seriously warped. I could be wrong, but the word "God" isn't part of their vocabulary, so to speak. From what I know, they worship what they call the "grand architect", and do have some belief of man becoming God like, but not in the same sense as Catholicism.
Elizabeth that is something to be proud of, and your ancestors will wonder why. Why even announce that you were a Mormon, what's your agenda. What your saying is the Book of Mormon isn't the word of God? Another decieved ex mormon, great person to get advice about the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints from. Mormons that leave can't leave it alone. We get great advice from Gamaliel in Acts5:38-39 If it's NOT true it won't last so no need to bother with it. But if it is TRUE, then ALL who left it and ALL who speak against it will be found fighting against God. When it comes to the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints being true It's very simple, either the Book of Mormon is true or it's not. So whether the faith is God's TRUE church rests on that one book. So if you want to know for yourself if that church is true, the honestly read the Book of Mormon and then take the challenge it gives to all who reads it, to pray and ask God if it's His word. I've been a member of the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints for 52yrs so far and Have read the Book of Mormon 50+ times and have yet to find anything that leads me away from the knowledge that it is only in and through our Savior Jesus Christ that salvation comes. Here's a few examples from the Book of Mormon that the anti group calls evil, you be the judge Heb5:12 12 And now, my sons, remember, remember that it is upon the rock of our Redeemer, who is Christ, the Son of God, that ye must build your foundation; that when the devil shall send forth his mighty winds, yea, his shafts in the whirlwind, yea, when all his hail and his mighty storm shall beat upon you, it shall have no power over you to drag you down to the gulf of misery and endless wo, because of the rock upon which ye are built, which is a sure foundation, a foundation whereon if men build they cannot fall. 2Nephi25:26 26 And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins. Either12:4 4 Wherefore, whoso believeth in God might with surety hope for a better world, yea, even a place at the right hand of God, which hope cometh of faith, maketh an anchor to the souls of men, which would make them sure and steadfast, always abounding in good works, being led to glorify God. Pretty bad stuff hey? I can see why you fell away Elizabeth and can't understand why six generations of your posterity stayed faithful.
the funny thing is that smith guy supposedly found these amazing tablets, translated them and now they are nowhere to be found, don't you think that if you people put that much faith in these tablets you people would have preserved them, or were the early Mormons so greedy that they melted them down for $, why is it that Mormons will never tell you the real reason they were run out of multiple states, it was all because of greed,
Jim Caponzi_Real Christians don't speak about other people with the kind of derogatory words you are using in your posts. I'm sure if a Mormon came to your door you would be much more polite, but seeing as how this is the internet you feel you can get away with it.
Jim Caponzi_I'm Catholic, not a Mormon. So what do you have to say now? I stand by what I said earlier about how a real Christian should conduct themselves.
Very interesting! I love learning about other religions, especially the super weird ones like Mormons. Hope you have more videos on different religions. Thanks Dr T!
I am Catholic and my daughter is Mormon. I have over 20 years of experience with Mormons and their beliefs. I have studied this cult extensively. Dr. Marshall is amazing. The problem with efforts in speaking with Mormons is that even the bible is not a good enough reference to refute Mormon beliefs. They will only accept biblical scripture "as long as it is correctly translated". In reality, this means that they can twist God's word, as Joseph Smith did, to satisfy their beliefs. We, as Catholics know that they do not believe in the Trinity, and they speak the same words when they baptize, "in the name of the father, the son, and the Holy Ghost" yet we also know that it does not mean the same thing as our exact words. What I have found is that Mormons do not study biblical languages nor the traditions of the times. Joseph Smith was clever. He drew from the bible and was a master of deceit. He made scripture appear as something else.However, one fact remains - NO Mormon missionary can ever prove anything in their church and Catholics can prove everything. I continue to pray for my daughter and Mormons everywhere. As Catholics, we want everyone to be saved! Peace!!!
Matt 16 : 16 Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood [archaeologists, scientists, theologians, philosophers] hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Read it with an open heart and ask God if it is true. Mormon 10:4-5
@@cdowis Matt 16: 16 doesn't really cover what to do if the flesh and blood, or to be more precise the empirical evidence, contradicts what someone else claims if from heaven.
@@edwardlecore141 For you, it is obvious that the Bible cannot be trusted to tell you how to find the truth. How sad that you cannot even trust the words of Christ.
@@cdowis I simply do not allow assumptions, nor emotional appeals as the basis for argument. Evidence is not so easily refuted, if you have a problem with my position refute the archaeology, that is the only way to me.
@@edwardlecore141 Let's start with something basic== Reformed Egyptian In the July/August 2018 edition of "Biblical Archaeology Review" on page 33, is an article "Egyptian Papyrus Sheds New Light on Jewish History." The author is Karel van der Toorn. The article is about a papyrus roll discovered in the late 19th century at Luxor (ancient Thebes). It took more than 120 years to decipher the text. It was discovered that Egyptian Demotic script had been used to write Aramaic text! The translation turned out to be three Israelite psalms written about 400BC. This is an example of a type of"Reformed Egyptian" used by Israelites and discovered by non-LDS. Suggested Translation of the Caractors Document ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-06UCwaeovtg.html Howlers in the Book of Mormon ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z1coYRS-i6M.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Regarding the fallacy of "not found, not exist" Hidden Civilizations/Cities in Mesoamerica from National Geographic news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/02/maya-laser-lidar-guatemala-pacunam/ Using new laser technology to see things through the dense vegetation and are finding interesting stuff. Among the things "In what’s being hailed as a “major breakthrough” in Maya archaeology, researchers have identified the ruins of more than 60,000 houses, palaces, elevated highways, and other human-made features that have been hidden for centuries under the jungles of northern Guatemala." " At its peak in the Maya classic period (approximately A.D. 250-900), the civilization covered an area about twice the size of medieval England, but it was far more densely populated. Most people had been comfortable with population estimates of around 5 million,” said Estrada-Belli, who directs a multi-disciplinary archaeological project at Holmul, Guatemala. “With this new data it’s no longer unreasonable to think that there were **10 to 15 million people there** Including many living in low-lying, swampy areas that many of us had thought uninhabitable.” .
Reality is 3 in 1. There are 3 things that exists in the universe-- Space, Time and Matter. Space = Length x Width x Height. Time = Past, Present, Future. Matter = Solids, Liquid and Gas. God put His nature into nature.
a little simplistic. “Things that exist” includes matter, dark matter, where space is a mere absence of matter. Special dimensions can be described in 3 coordinate dimensions, but can also be described in different methods. St Thomas Aquinas warns us not to use weak/coincidental arguments, as a disproof of simple ideas can make us look foolish
We make mistakes. God didn't ruin Christianity our perception and interpretation of that gospel is what failed. Therefore we had to turn to him to help correct the mistakes WE made.
And the fact that the church of Christ stands today means the gates of hell haven't prevailed. Actually the church of Christ is the largest it's ever been.
@Ian Hernandez Yea right... that is why the church is not named after Christ. If it was Christ's church... it would bear his name. If it is called the Lutheran church... then it is Luther's. If it is Moses' church... it would be called the Church of Moses. If it is Christ's Church... then it would be called the Church of Jesus Christ. And to separate it from the original church which did not survive... it is now called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
Mormons & Catholics & all the rest (with one exception) are all in the same sinking boat. They all say *DO* ... they all think they please God by being in the correct building with the correct group, & DOING their religious activities. While true Christianity (AKA protestant) says *DONE* ... Christ Himself *FINISHED* all the religious works on our behalf ... and now we are suppose to *TRUST* in that fact & *REST* in Him, *REST* in what He accomplished *for us* . Any religious deeds are merely to show other people the love of God, but those works have *nothing* to do with our salvation.
My brother converted to Mormonism and I'm coming into full communion this Easter. I'm really going to work on him to convert him back and hopefully his wife too. Prayers would be appreciated from all those who read this.
I will pray for you. Hang in there. Patience and prayers will help. Sometimes people pick a faith based on what they want because they find the people to be kind or the services to be uplifting etc.. they totally put aside the fact that it should not be about that. It's about what Jesus wanted for us and what he started, his Church, the Holy Roman Catholic Church, the Bride of Christ. Welcome home!
I spoke with 2 young men in white shirts yesterday. I asked if they knew anything about apparitions of Mary. They never heard of any, not even Fatima. It blew my mind to think that all shepards of every faith refuse to share these facts with ppl looking for faith. It seems that every human should know of these great miracles that are for All ppl. I left these young men with a challenge to their faith to look up Mary's visits to earth.
Yes indeed, Adam: "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." Galatians 1:8
@@drspaseebo410 ... Can you tell me what Gospel was preached to the Galatians?? Then... tell me what was the "other" gospel that was preached to them. If you don't know what was preached to them... how can you know that it was another gospel? Which of course Paul even says: 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; Hmmm... unto another gospel...which is NOT another. I wonder what Paul meant?
When they knocked on my door and insisted that I read their book of whatever, I told them that I would do it if they prayed the Rosary 📿 with me ❤️🙏❤️📿, they literally ran out of my home 🏡
I see a lot of ex-Mormons who are impressed. I’m a Catholic, gone Mormon, gone Catholic again. I’m not impressed. All I see is establishing the differences, not “stomping” them. Mormons, such as these straw man missionaries are taught to rely on their “testimonies” of the gospel. A testimony is a completely simple (or blind) faith based knee jerk reaction that the Church is true in the face of any criticism because the Holy Ghost personally told ME the Book of Mormon is true. Therefore the way “stump” a missionary is to target that testimony. One of the things that took me out of Mormonism is realizing that the Book of Mormon doesn’t teach Mormonism. Seriously, it doesn’t. It teaches trinitarianism in Mosiah, pacifism in Alma, forensic justification Enos, anti-clericalism in 2 Nephi and Mosiah, and more. They will then lean on modern revelation, the idea that their leaders are prophets like Moses and everything they say is as good as scripture. Most have never heard of Adam-God and would not believe in it, yet Brigham Young said it was a matter of salvation to believe it. Or mention that the “less valiant souls” theory of African Americans was taught by Ezra Taft Benson in General Conference, essentially ex cathedra. Mormons are well aware that they have non-mainstream beliefs. Throwing them in their face just makes you look like a butt head. To have a chance to convince them they are wrong find the ground they are really standing on, because this video is the tip of the iceberg.
BOOM! You hit the nail directly on the head. No amount of empirical evidence taken from the Bible or from other (religious or secular) sources will sway a Mormon, or anyone else whose religious beliefs are based directly on an emotional response. I really wish more apologetics targeting the LDS church really understood this.
Dr. Marshall, St. Thomas Aquinas explanation on the 3 Heavens is not only interesting, but quite obvious to Spanish speaking people. You perhaps know this already. In Spanish, both 'Heaven' and 'sky', share the same word: 'cielo' (from latin, caelum). 'Cielo' can also refer to the atmosphere, specifically. One could also reference 'space' as 'los cielos', but most commonly the word 'espacio' is used. Still, the bodies in outer space are referred to as 'cuerpos celestes' (from the latin, caelestis), and the same holds true for the English language, in which you speak indistinctly of heavenly or celestial bodies.
And not forgetting the fact that people didn't have a true acknowledge about space, so did used to think it was just the sky (cielo). Cielo = sky = space, BUT aside of that, Cielo = heaven being not the same as cielo (sky/space), hahahaha it sounds weird but it's understandable depending on the context. For example: "Look at that bird in the "cielo"! (sky)" is not the same as "Oh God who is in the "cielo" (heaven)."
I read an alternate explanation of "the third heaven" in a Jewish commentary. . We may also have heard the expression "seventh heaven." So, what's up ? Well, the Old Testament (Hebrew Scriptures) uses 7 different words for heaven. So, it was concluded by the rabbis that there were 7 levels of heaven, and the 7th was the abode of the Divine. They also speculated that each level of heaven was as large as a journey of 500 years -- to express, I forget the word -- the highness of God above the earth. In Judaism, there were different opinions among the rabbis, so Paul is probably expressing one school of thought of his day.
Thank you for info. I was raised as a Protestant, never baptized. Never fully active as a Christian. My husband and I were invited to a Mormon church service once. We went didn’t want to be rude and were curious. Wasn’t for us. I was recently Baptized and Conf. as a Roman Catholic- A True Christian. My husband was also Conf. My 1st son is in Conf.I and will receive Jesus for the first time in April. My 2nd son is also recently baptized and will also soon receive Jesus. My 3rd son will soon be baptized. Also, my my husband and I were married in the church. To be Roman Catholic and have all the Gifts (Sacrament’s) from God as he intended for us...is so fulfilling. The void we were all trying to fill within ourselves differently is no longer an issue. My husband and I are both Catechist’s for RCIA & 3rd grade. I believe some people fear going into the Roman Catholic Church because they think they will lose whatever Christianity was planted in them from before.I know I did. It was a battle for a moment. My Grand-Father was a preacher. Looking back I realize I was looking at this incorrectly. I didn’t find that to happen. In-fact all that I had in me was enhanced by a trillion. God Bless you Dr. Marshall. Thank you for all that you do. Your videos are vital to our faith.
I like your affirmation that everything true and good you learned from your Christian forebears was not lost, but enhanced when you entered the Church. Thank you.
Thanks Dr. Marshall. I have some Mormons coming over tomorrow evening to have a chat. I bought some drinks (nothing caffeinated) and snacks, and I plan to invite them to my patio by the pool for a discussion. I am trying to prepare myself as much as possible for that discussion, as I want to help lead them to Christ and the Catholic Church. This video gave me some particularly good items to bring up, and also helps me more optimally understand where they’re coming from. I’ll be studying more material and some Trent Horn videos tonight. I never turn away Mormons or Jehovahs Witnesses - Christ bought them to me so I can be the missionary.
@@valebartoli8113 it went extremely well, I did 80-90% of the talking and they asked a ton of questions to learn more about Catholicism despite being there to tell me about Mormonism. I stumped them in several key areas, and they said they would get the answers to my questions and come back. Unfortunately, they never did return. I learned from an ex-Mormon that when young missionaries encounter certain hard cases they can be forbidden from returning. The questions I asked were probably a lot more involved that anything else I think they have been asked, and had nothing to do with magic underwear or any of the typical stuff they would be asked perhaps by Protestants. My hope is I planted a seed. I could tell explaining the Eucharist had a particular effect on them, it was new information to them.
I like this video! I am a Mormon, but because of the COVID-19 pandemic that closed all the churches on the Navajo Reservation/Nation, I decided to drive to Farmington, New Mexico, 35 miles away and find a place to go to Church (off the reservation). The Mormon churches were also closed in Farmington. I found St. Mary's Parish to be open. I sat inside, in the back. I didn't understand what was going on, but I kept continuing to go each Sunday for 3 months, by myself. It was mention during MASS that an RCIA meeting would be starting on Thursday evening. I attended. I am still attending. I understand now about Catholicism. I understand also the weakness of Mormonism. One thing I don't like about Mormonism is that you are force to pay a full tithing (10% of your gross income) in order to grow in the Mormon religion. I could never pay 10% because I could not afford it. The highest that I was able to pay was about 6%. In general, I paid about 1% or 2% tithing. I told this to Deacon Jim who runs the RCIA at St. Mary's Parish. He emailed me these 2 scriptures: 1 Corinthians 16:2, and 2 Corinthians 9:5-8. 1 Corinthians 16:2 says, paraphrasing: On the first day of the week each of you should set aside and save whatever he can afford, so that collections will not be going on when I come. In other words, “On the first day of the week [Sunday], each of you should set aside whatever he can afford.” Read 2 Corinthians 9:5-8. 2 Corinthians 9:5-8 meaning is this: God doesn’t demand a fixed amount of money from us; he wants us to give from the heart. If people are forced by their church to give a certain percent of their income, that’s extortion. If they give freely and cheerfully the amount they are able, that’s a gift. To grow spiritually in the LDS faith, one has to pay a full tithing. If one pays a full tithing, one can expect to get positions within the LDS Church. And from there, you can keep growing. I wasn't able to pay a full tithing. I told the truth, so I wasn't able to grow within the Mormon faith. My daughter is also doubting the Mormon faith. She doesn't believe what some of things that is taught to her during LDS Seminary that is taught during 0 hour before high school begins. She also told me that the white LDS boys walk as a group to high school. Then the white LDS girls walk behind the boys. Then she walks by herself behind the girls. She tried to commit suicide by walking onto the highway but the cars stopped. She told me this. I didn't know she was going through this problem. So I told her that she doesn't need to complete the lessons given over the internet (because of COVID-19, it's now taught online). That she should do what she feels in her heart. I told her I would help her. The Mormon Church is the richest church in the world! They build temples! But one has to be faithful to the Mormon faith and pay a full tithing in order to be able to go in to the Mormon temple.
I used to be a Mormon. They are the richest church in the world because the way that’s reported is financial assets held by the churches. In order to truly calculate the Catholic church’s wealth in the US alone you’d have to include thousands of schools. Thousands of hospitals. Thousands of centers for helping the poor, disabled, homeless. I became Catholic after volunteering for 2 1/2 years as a homeless volunteer in Seattle where we’d go around and pick up the homeless and take them to the church center where we’d set up beds and cook them meals in the dead of cold rainy Seattle winters. The Mormon church has BYU and few satellite campuses. No primary schools. They used to “own” LDS hospital but they sold it. They own radio and TV stations (pumping out garbage) and orange juice farms, etc. but no schools, no hospitals, no clinics no shelters.
I pay 10% on my net income after necessary living expenses. No one forces you to pay 10% gross, that's a misconception. I actually dug into this a lot and there is a lot of misinformation in church around the doctrine of tithing and the church leadership hasn't actually never explicitly said you have to tithe 10% of gross. They say "10% of your increase" but they don't specify what increase means so that's left up to personal interpretation. Some people say it's income, I say it means your increase in net worth. That comes out to about 2% to 3% for me.
@@kyle2034 It's 10% of your gross income. I am absolutely sure of that. I have specifically asked that question. I have never heard any Mormon (Bishop) tell me it's "10% of your increase" or "10% of your net income". For Mormons, paying a "full tithing" is a requirement to stay in "good standing" with the LDS Church, which means keeping your "Temple Recommend" card and continue receiving "Callings" in the LDS Church. Local LDS Ward members keep a Church record of your tithing payment, which is linked to the LDS Church. At the end of the fiscal year, LDS members are reminded to pay their full tithing before the fiscal year ends, and LDS members can get a printout of their tithing donations for possible tax purposes. The doctrine of "Tithing" is taught in Sunday School, during Elder's Quorum, and during Sacrament. LDS members who pay a full tithing are chosen to give a talk on "Tithing" during Sacrament. They never say "10% of your increase". I have not attended the LDS Church since the COVID-19 pandemic started in February 2020 when the LDS Wards and Branches across the USA were shut down. This past May 2nd 2021 (Sunday) was the first day that the LDS Shiprock Ward was open to meet face-to-face, but I and my family didn't go. If it happened that during this year off, when the LDS Church was closed because of COVID-19, that the LDS Church had changed their philosophy concerning "Tithing" as they had changed their philosophy and doctrine with: • polygamy, • blacks unable to have the "Priesthood", • Native Americans becoming a "white" and delightsome people, and • homosexuals being excommunicated from the LDS Church, then your saying that "tithing" means "10% of your increase" would be correct.
@@harrisonlapahie3483 Yes I don't doubt you've been told that. Bishops have been known to run their wards depending on their own personal views of the commandments and it doesn't always line up with church policy. Sometimes converts from other protestant churches that have stricter definitions of tithing bring their traditions into the Mormon church. Personally, I've asked multiple bishoprics over the years and they all say the same thing, which is that the Lord hasn't specified if it's on gross or net income and that decision is between you and the Lord. The reason for this is a lot of people run their own businesses so would you pay tithing on your revenue or net income after expenses? If you had a million in revenue but 900,000 in business expenses including paying others' salaries, tithing would leave you with nothing if it was on gross revenue. That's also why at year-end, they don't ask you your income they simply ask if you're a full tithe payer and you declare yourself whether or not you are.
@@harrisonlapahie3483 God bless you and your daughter. I hope you both can find peace in praying the Rosary, as I have been fortunate to do. It's much like asking a friend to pray for one's endeavors but it's Our Lady :) Pax Christi -
these people fight the book without knowing the contents. The 45 second rundown you get from RU-vid isn't going to help you know what your talking about. Clear your mind of opinions, against or pro-Mormon. Read the book all the way through and I'm confident your view will change.
David tysef7us David tysef7us I have read the book all the way through I’m an exmormon and the book is clearly fabricated the names of Book of Mormon places are almost exactly the same as Joseph Smith’s home county township names, the book is quite similar to the ciew of the hebrews, the first book of napoleon,and the late war which was a textbook joseph smith used in school . it also contains the same errors and language of the 1769 king james bible which was revised. there is also no archaelogical evidence for the lamanites and nephites who were large trubes yet in the same area we have tons of archaelogical evidence of smaller tribes who were around before the book of mormon. dna also shows that native americans have no DNA connection to the jewish people. the so called witnesses never even saw the plates they just said that they prayed and found what joseph was saying to be true, and the manority of the 'witnesses' were excommunicated and redacted their statements. there are also many different accounts made by joseph smith of the first vision.
My husband put a typed note on our front door: "This is a Catholic home. Thank you for NOT advertising another faith." The Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses stopped coming to our door.
I was actually grateful for the opportunity to reveal Truth to Mormons last time. I questioned them on the Eucharist. This led down the rabbit hole of the "native Americans" and such. I actually enjoy blowing the minds of other denominations with simple Truth. Very spiritually rewarding. Thank you for more points to bring up next time! God Bless!
What I do not like about Mormonism is that they do not condemn polygamy. That is the practice of any man to take or marry more than one women at the same time. Any true devout Christian knows that this is very wrong in the eyes of God.
@@jeraldsargent2586Coptic Christians, Syriacs (Nestorian and Orthodox), Armenian Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, as well as Catholics, all believe in Jesus being truly present body blood soul and divinity in the Eucharist, they just dont all use the very precise language that Catholics have adopted to describe the reality of what happens. All of these churches in far away places believe so similarly, because they received it from from the same apostles and the 70 disciples that were sent by Jesus, these distant communities bound together by this common heritage of being founded by people who truly knew and loved Christ when he was alive.
Speaking as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who served a full time mission to Italy I learned to love so many things about the Catholic faith and I love the Italian people. I always appreciated a good discussion about my faith vs. Catholicism. I even spoke with many Priests while I was in Italy serving as a mormon missionary. We don’t view our doctrines as “strange”, because they are our doctrines. Just like Catholics don’t view their own doctrines as strange. I know many individuals that view any religious doctrine as strange, no matter what the faith. I prefer to compare and contrast doctrines rather than labeling them as “strange” because your own doctrines will always be strange to someone not of your faith. I think it is important to try and respect individuals religious beliefs. Also, it was never embarrassing to me for someone to point out the differences of their Catholic Faith and my Faith. The varying interpretations of the Bible has created almost innumerable different Christian Faiths. Mormons (members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) absolutely have a number of different doctrines than the Catholic Church, but we are not embarrassed by these differences. They are just different than yours and they are not crazy to us. An atheist they would tell all of us that we are crazy to believe Jesus is God. I believe that Jesus Christ is my Savior and Redeemer. Some people would call that crazy, but I suspect most individuals watching this video would share that belief. I love all my brothers and sisters in Christ, even if we do have differences in our doctrines.
I was an uber Mormon (even flirted with Mormon fundamentalism) who had doubts I had to suppress and finally abandoned ship. It was excruciating. I splashed about and became a Protestant. I knew zip about orthodox Christianity. Someone gave me a copy of Tom Woods book "How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization" which prompted me to study the Catholic side of the Reformation. That opened up all sorts of questions and over the next couple of years I basically studied my way into traditional Catholicism. I'm home God be praised. I know there are many Mormons who feel just like I did. Many of them are poorly catechized Catholics who were picked off. Thank you for this presentation.
I just left the Mormon Church, I was actually a Mormon missionary just a couple years ago. I have to say that while this video is very professional, it still doesn’t answer the deeper questions I have about our reality. I just have a feeling there is a deeper explanation for all these religions and why they all believe they are right.
That one isn't hard. People are stupid and full of hubris. There is spiritual truth out there but most people think they themselves are the source of truth which is why heresies like the Prot reformation or Mormonism are so common. Lack of spiritual humility is no small thing
Well, not so. Pronouns don’t work the same way in ancient languages as they do in English. For example in Latin “ego sum” and simply “sum” and Greek “εγώ είμαι” and simply “είμαι”. Maybe someone who knows Hebrew can shine here.
@Dr Taylor Marshall - as a humanist it is pure comedy gold to watch this recurring feature of the faithful. When assailing the faith beliefs of other people, just like you do here, you employ your critical reasoning and present the case (notwithstanding the resort to scripture, which comprises books of claims, not evidence). When it comes to defending your own faith claims the cognitive dissonance returns and the critical faculties become as visible as your God. If we were created in his likeness all of us would be invisible too.
You have shared some accurate information (and some not so accurate) about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but it doesn't help your argument to just pronounce something you do not understand to be "crazy." You can be better than that.
It's interesting how you point out Dr. Taylor's alleged inaccuracies but didn't specify them. Any mental miget can do that. Why bother commenting if you're not going to point out the inaccuracies?
Happy faithful Member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints here. Thank you for sharing a video that doesn't disparage! Yes our beliefs are different than yours but I didn't feel any animosity from this video. Again, thanks for portraying my faith in good will. May we both benefit from the gospel of Christ.
As Christians we all have the opportunity to receive the Love of Jesus Christ. Some may find it in scripture others in the straight way through Grace; no matter, as the bible says, "straight is the way, narrow is the gate." I was happy to see that this video actually did have reference to bible texts. Although I was disappointed with the fact that the speaker used the word "Strange" to comment on the teachings of the Mormon. Every church and every denomination have something that someone does not agree with, but we should never criticize as such. Furthermore, I know the Catholic teaching very well, but am not one. I also believe that the Catholics have strange traditions, but I would never say that to anyone person, lest my family or friends.
As a Protestant, I can ensure you that Mormonism is astonishingly and greatly different from our beliefs, and Catholic beliefs as well (as you know). Nonetheless, these points are very much helpful. Also, hello to all my Catholic brothers and sisters! Love y'all!
@@NGC_290 If you (or anyone else) has some helpful resources for me to understand Catholicism then PLEASE link them to me here. Being that it's the earliest Christian church, I really want to explore its rich history! Thank you and good day/night.
Ive been a mormon since birth living in australia so im the minority here, not like utah but i have the strongest conviction that the lds church will get u closer to god then any other church, let me explain how i came to this conclusion. 1. Ok maybe u die at a very young age or even a baby, some of the christian believes that baby have sin from adam and eve, and that a baby is going straight to hell because he or she hasnt been baptised and so on. Imagine that, a baby that has no idea of what is happening goes to live with satan in hell i cant imagine god being very merciful and wouldnt worship that god. What i believe is a baby is perfect no sin, we dont have any sin until we are old enough to be able to know what we are doing is right or wrong the age is 8 years old in my church to be baptised. 2. I will say to the plan of salvation yes we believe that there are 3 kindoms of glory when we die we will go to one of these places, and I will explain why this makes more sence then just a heaven and a hell. If u were not interested in god or maybe didnt grow up or hear about it in you life on this planet, u would not be saved u would be in hell. Also if u have commited some sins and right on the border of being in heaven but not quite ready to be in his presents and so if ur not accepting god but change ur mind later well it would be to late by some christian beliefs u would be in hell, and theres nothing in between also with no way out. Ok so we believe that if u have not been baptised u wouldnt go straight to hell out of god presents u would be able to continue to grow and learn on the lowest kingdom which will give u opertunity to accept jesus, god and become like him and live with him. Now that sound good to me, there still is a place where satan lives in outer darkness where only the worst of the worst go. Also we believe u will feel comfitable in the place u will go, and that the lowest kingdom is far better then living on this earth so it will be glorious to live there. We also have a temple to do work for the dead who have died and have not been baptised and recieved the holy ghost the oppertunity to accept god and be baptised, that is a much more merciful god to me. Even when dead u still have the opertunity to accept if u want to be baptised or not. Much better then the options of the other christian beliefs, i think. 3. We always believe that in the book of mormon it doesnt talk of many gods its just the trinity one god, simple. How did god became god, it say alot in the bible about how we are children of god and he wants us to live with him again and be like him. So what does that say, im just speculating but if he wants us to be like him how do we do that, and to what degree, is it a little like him or actually like him with all his glory and perfect like him to be like god. We are children of god our spirit comes from god and we live in this mortal existence for a very short time maybe a hundred years then we die and like jesus we will be resurected eventually when god says its time and our body will be reunited with our spirit, so we will have a body that is perfect and will be imortal and can live forever and never die, which is what as a mormon i believe, and i hope is what most christians believe too. But what the difference is that they think we will just be praising god for trillions and billions of years with no growth, which sounds boring, i believe that as we live with jesus we continue growing and learning how god is, the nature of god and how he does what he does, that sound much more interesting and that like a child learns from his father most things i think we will learn alot about where god came from and so on. All our questions will be answered. Death isnt the end its just part of our experience and journey, but that my opinion.
During the 90s, the Mormons I always see here in the Philippines were Caucasians but today there are already a lot of Filipino Mormons. They preyed of course on Catholics. Catholics are always the sources of conversions to Mormonism, Adventism, Evangelical Protestantism etc.
@@Reub3 The biggest religion in the Philippines is Catholic Christianity (80%+), followed by Islam (5%+) then by various non-Catholic Christian sects (Protestantism, Iglesia ni Cristo, Mormonism, etc).
Excellent on Mormanism For Dummies as a brief Catholic 911 response! Now like a previous commentor said awhile back, please do one on Jehovah's Witnesses! I am around them more than Mormans. God Bless all you do for Mother Church!!!!!
Jehovah’s Witnesses - 1872 AD. Founded by a human being, not GOD Himself. Charles Taze Russell, as the “Millennial Darwinists”. In 1931, Judge Rutherford, his successor, decided that henceforth they would be called, Witnesses of Jehovah, or Jehovah’s Witness. The JWs deny the Trinity, deny the Sonship, deity, and divinity of Christ, deny His physical resurrection, the resurrection of the body, and refuse to take blood transfusions. They claim their “messiah” to be the Archangel Michael. (Totally Non-Biblical!)
Because you have Ultimate Freedom... You get to set the rules... Why would you not want your own Universe🤔??? I would rather have a Universe of my own, than be a Slave and cog for a Deity... Eternal Bliss makes no sense, especially with a new 'Holy Body'.... What's the point? Might as well as join those who face the 2nd Death.... Or be bored for all Eternity
Dr Taylor 8 am Mormon and currently awaiting for RCIA this winter. Can you please do a video on the "Blood Atonement" that was previously taught in the LDS church? I really believe more should hear about this, it is really unnerving.
Mormons always appear wholesome, sober, reasonable and responsible. So it's tempting to take them seriously. I've associated with them and attended their services where they allow only water with the host. Wine isn't allowed since they fear it will lead some members to backslide into alcoholism.. I felt empty afterward. When I point out that genetics proves that the indigenous tribes in America are not semitic, they're forced to deny basic scientific truths.
Wow, it’s amazing how many lies you tell to twist things in order to fit the narrative you want your followers to hear. Do you know whats fascinating? (And another testament that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is true) The leaders and “preachers” (we just call them Prophets, Apostles, Teachers) NEVER MAKE VIDEOS OR PROPAGANDA that slanders and makes fun of, or contends against, any other religion. So many of you who claim to believe in Christ constantly slander other religions. That’s not very Christlike. Woe unto this wicked and corrupt generation of Pharisees! All of you prideful preachers shall see the folly of your ways and at that great day, we, the Lords Covenant people, will welcome you in with open arms. But that will be up to you to come unto Christs fold. God bless.
"polytheism -- many gods" Well, let’s see what the Bible tells us John 17 [22] And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: [23] I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Rev 3 [21] To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Rom 8 [17] And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. This is not polytheism, not many gods, but we become joint-heirs with Christ -- become ONE with the Father and Son EVEN AS the Son is ONE with the Father. This is the patriarchal order (patrimony) in the kingdom of God. The Bible says it, we believe it.
not polytheism, but henotheism. That is LDS theology. "The King Follett Discourse" goes into this. Might want to check it out since it is a key part of your faith.
I have Mormon relatives, whom I love dearly. Thank you, Dr. Marshall, for explaining the absolute MESS that they believe in! Isn't Mormonism a type of cult too? As in one is cut off when they leave?
Lived in Tucson AZ for 3 years while attending UA - one day as I was leaving home to attend a class I open the front door, two young Mormon men were there. While I was polite and chatted briefly, I also explained my church affiliation before getting to class. I've read the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrines and Covenants, they did not make much sense to me. Bottom line: I really had no interest in joining the Latter-Day Saint church.
Joseph Smith placed the many artifacts, found on the Hill Cumorah, in a Temple. Without the extensive proof of ancient American pre- Colombian Mormon church, Smith's story would have been known as a hoax. Because of the numerous & well documented archeological finding on Hill Cumorah, the world's archeological knowledge is complete. Thank the Mormon gods for Joseph Smith's treasure finding activities and all the overwhelming proof of the larges battle to ever have occurred .😝
Ive been a mormon since birth living in australia so im the minority here, not like utah but i have the strongest conviction that the lds church will get u closer to god then any other church, let me explain how i came to this conclusion. 1. Ok maybe u die at a very young age or even a baby, some of the christian believes that baby have sin from adam and eve, and that a baby is going straight to hell because he or she hasnt been baptised and so on. Imagine that, a baby that has no idea of what is happening goes to live with satan in hell i cant imagine god being very merciful and wouldnt worship that god. What i believe is a baby is perfect no sin, we dont have any sin until we are old enough to be able to know what we are doing is right or wrong the age is 8 years old in my church to be baptised. 2. I will say to the plan of salvation yes we believe that there are 3 kindoms of glory when we die we will go to one of these places, and I will explain why this makes more sence then just a heaven and a hell. If u were not interested in god or maybe didnt grow up or hear about it in you life on this planet, u would not be saved u would be in hell. Also if u have commited some sins and right on the border of being in heaven but not quite ready to be in his presents and so if ur not accepting god but change ur mind later well it would be to late by some christian beliefs u would be in hell, and theres nothing in between also with no way out. Ok so we believe that if u have not been baptised u wouldnt go straight to hell out of god presents u would be able to continue to grow and learn on the lowest kingdom which will give u opertunity to accept jesus, god and become like him and live with him. Now that sound good to me, there still is a place where satan lives in outer darkness where only the worst of the worst go. Also we believe u will feel comfitable in the place u will go, and that the lowest kingdom is far better then living on this earth so it will be glorious to live there. We also have a temple to do work for the dead who have died and have not been baptised and recieved the holy ghost the oppertunity to accept god and be baptised, that is a much more merciful god to me. Even when dead u still have the opertunity to accept if u want to be baptised or not. Much better then the options of the other christian beliefs, i think. 3. We always believe that in the book of mormon it doesnt talk of many gods its just the trinity one god, simple. How did god became god, it say alot in the bible about how we are children of god and he wants us to live with him again and be like him. So what does that say, im just speculating but if he wants us to be like him how do we do that, and to what degree, is it a little like him or actually like him with all his glory and perfect like him to be like god. We are children of god our spirit comes from god and we live in this mortal existence for a very short time maybe a hundred years then we die and like jesus we will be resurected eventually when god says its time and our body will be reunited with our spirit, so we will have a body that is perfect and will be imortal and can live forever and never die, which is what as a mormon i believe, and i hope is what most christians believe too. But what the difference is that they think we will just be praising god for trillions and billions of years with no growth, which sounds boring, i believe that as we live with jesus we continue growing and learning how god is, the nature of god and how he does what he does, that sound much more interesting and that like a child learns from his father most things i think we will learn alot about where god came from and so on. All our questions will be answered. Death isnt the end its just part of our experience and journey, but that my opinion.
This seems to be strange corruption of Christianity taking on the form of pagan pantheistic form leading to a Buddhist type of end goal of all things. The appeal is obvious, become a god...but that for obvious reasons, does not sync with Christ's message or the teachings of the Old Testament.
You do realize that there were very few Jews that converted. The majority that converted were the Gentiles. Jesus tried to teach his family.... the Jews... but they did not listen to him.
Are you a good Catholic? Are you very secure in your faith? Why is it that you feel the need to make a video such as this? Especially since there are so many things wrong with what you are saying. I was raised Protestant. But I have great respect for the RCC. I've had many friends over the years who were Catholic, and we have had some interesting conversations. In fact, before I joined the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints, I was seriously considering joining the RCC, even though there were many things you believe, that I just don't believe, or don't understand. Why? It is a 24/7/365 faith.
Mormons are oddly confident in their religion. They say pray for the truth and God will reveal it to you. So i did, now I'm a Traditionalist Catholic. Funny how that works isn't it.
I find it so interesting every heresy, muhammadism, mormonism, protestantism, etc all receive a private revelation and a man who felt he knew better than church teaching. Sadly all of these lack a common thread and that is the reason and intellect and we are supposed to believe these men as they suddenly have a new truth. Thank God for the magisterium of the Catholic Church and Christ's gift of the keys of the Church to Peter.
Catholics do not consider protestants heretics and protestants never claim special revelation. Look it up. Solar Scriptura Sola Fide Sola Gratia are all based on believing in Scripture as authority and the Gospel being the thing that saves us. We are not saved by works but by Grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.
If your going to spend the time on this video, atleast get the name right. The argument that mormons arent Christian is too much like rival sports fans arguing(fun to watch but ultimately a waste of time/energy). Also, you do know there is a huge difference between universe and galaxy right? I thought atleast Catholics would understand that....
"So there aren't souls in heaven waiting to be dropped into embryos" OK, upon hearing that I immediately thought of this: *Jeremiah 1:5 - Before I formed you in the womb I knew you* How do we deal with this text?
God knows people before people start to exist. The verse doesn't say we knew God before being formed in the womb, as latter-day saints claim, just the opposite.
There are NO true churches. Read the bible, pray, follow Christ and obey the commandments. You don't need church to do that, but if you're into going to church for community interaction, go for it.
Every Mormon that tried to convert me used the argument of private revelation through prayer - that anyone who seeks the truth about God the Father can pray to Him, whereupon He will privately and infallibly reveal to the petitioner that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is His church. Needless to say, each of them failed to convert me. And I say this as a relative of Joseph Smith who has at least five distinct sets of ancestors in common with him.
It is not members of the Church that converts anyone. It is the Holy Ghost. He is the testifier of all truth. When I converted... I did not worry about losing my faith from what I was born with. I just listened to what was presented to me... and it was the Spirit of God that converted me. I had never felt that Spirit before. As I read the Book of Mormon... I knew what I was reading was truthful. When I listened to story of the 14 year old boy Joseph Smith... who saw God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ... I knew deep within that the story was true. I never had such a testimony of anything like that in my life. I can remember reading in the Book of Mormon... what the Prophet Moroni has said at the end of his writings to his people in a future time. He said: I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost. And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.
@@MrNirom1 Christ is not a name. So what that Moroni suggested is simply wrong. And spirits can most certainly lie. There's a whole shitload of lying spirits and they are eager to pour honey into your ears.
@@petercarlson811 So... Christ is not a name eh? You sure you want to stick with that? Do you believe in the Bible... Peter? Is it God "breathed" for you? Rom 15:3 & 7 3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me. 7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God. Hebrews 5:5 5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. Colossians 3:1,3 & 4 1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. Philippians 2:1 1 If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies, Hebrews 9:11 11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; I would say Peter that the Bible disagrees with you. You have never heard anything... have you? You have never witnessed the power of the Holy Ghost have you? Has the Holy Ghost ever testified anything to you??
@@MrNirom1 O ye of feeble knowledge. Don't put on the teachers hat quite yet. Christ is the english translation of the greek word christos which is a translation of the hebrew word messiach which means "the annointed one". It is a title, not a name. And there has been several annointed persons in scripture. Every king of israel was annointed as he took the throne. Jesus was annointed with the holy spirit at his baptism. There he became the christ. Just because Paul starts to use the title as a name doesn't make it correct. It is the same with satan and lucifer. Those are also not names of a person. But sloppiness and poor education has made people think that. In Pauls letter to the hebrews he warns specifically for lying spirits if the message brought changes the message of the apostles. And this moroni was clearly full of shit. Unless he was entirely made up by Smith.
"Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on top at last. _I have more to boast of than ever any man had._ I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, _nor Jesus_ ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. _The followers of Jesus ran away from Him;_ but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet...When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." - Joseph Smith: founder, prophet, seer, and revelator of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. (History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409)
One thing I would like to mention here about Joseph Smith's teaching about there being 3 heavens, is that there is no such word anywhere in the English language as "telestial" ....This word simply put was just a word that Joseph Smith jr had made up, who then invented another doctrine out this newly created word, in order to say that this meant that there was another heaven.
@4:15 >>ONE God' Well, let’s see what the Bible tells us John 17 [22] And **the glory which thou gavest me I have given them that they may be one, EVE AS We are one** [23] I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Rev 3 [21] To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. Rom 8 [17] And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. This is not polytheism, but we become joint-heirs with Christ.
This argument has been going on since before the council of Nicea. THE TRUE NATURE OF GOD. Whether they are separate or trinitarian. And whether they are exalted perfected beings or spirit. Aris at the council believed they were separate beings with two other bishops. The result those three were exiled and their papers burned. The other 315 bishops believed in the trinitarian view. Thus the birth of the Niceian creed. So it boils down to the truth being in one of those two views.
Actually it boils down to that they are both heresies based on the mutterings of theologians and philosophers, rather than revelation from prophets called by God. Eph 4:11-14
cdowis, John 17:22 says nothing about Eve. And what verses follows are telling us that the faithful, the believers, will be perfected through the blood of Jesus to join Him in eternal glory. Rev 3:21 tells us that Jesus' followers will share his throne. In heaven we will experience the beatific vision which is the vision of all three of God's personages in one. God loved us so much that he humbled himself and took on the body of a man to experience human suffering as we do. He made himself an example to show us that we too can overcome great adversities to share in the kingdom. Rom 3:21 More of the same. Jesus is showing us that we too, because of his divine love, can share in the kingdom. No it is not polytheism, because the Father , Son and Holy Spirit are one God, three personages, not three separate gods. And the only way that we ARE able to become joint heirs is because Jesus (God) came down, died on the cross and was resurrected. Without that selfless act none of us could become heirs.
One small thing... More than once you call it 'The Church of Jesus Christ AND Latter-Day Saints'... It's 'The Church of Jesus Christ OF Latter-Day Saints'
If you are not prepared to talk with them, I recomend you to ask them if they believe that Jesus is God, naturally they will say yes, you ask them again, Is Jesuschrist the truth, the way and the life? They will say yes, and you should say "So, when Jesus says that ' Not even the powers of hell can against it' S. Mt. 16,18 talking about his church, When did the church apostatize? Did Jesus lie?" Jake mate, you are making them thinking by themselves. What a bad English I have... God I should practice more... And Galatians 1, 6-10.
The gates of hell not prevailing against the Church means it would be resurrected. Hell is the place of the dead. You can both die, yet not ultimately be defeated, by death. And if the Church fell into apostasy, would God have simply forced people to NOT be apostate? Being a God of truth, righteousness and mercy, he would never violate the ability to choose (and the ability to be genuinely virtuous).
