A mistake by the narrator in the first few minutes. He said that the Brits were being deployed to British soil, but they weren't. They were being sent to Ireland
@@davidlysaghtlegupability2924 if some group kicked in your door of your house and started to occupy every room. Would you concede that it was now their house and you and your family were now part of their people? And if you managed to evict them from all but one room, would you then regard the house apart from that one room yours again and regard that room as theirs, with maybe your Mother left in there with them. Is she then of a different people than you, is she one of them. Would you feel you needed their permission to enter that room? HELLLLLLLLLOOOOOOO, IRELAND IS IRELAND, EVERY LAST BIT OF IT WHETHER OCCUPIED CURRENTLY, PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED, OR GOVERNED FROM DUBLIN OR FROM A FOREIGN SHORE. There is no Ireland without all of its parts. It is not, cannot, never has been and never will be British. It can't, it is NOT in Britain. Britain is our neighbour. When re-unification happens it won't be the case that suddenly our country grew, got a brand new piece added on, a "British" piece. It will not be the case that British territory was lost, or that a British population in that corner of Ireland overnight becomes Irish. No. It will be the case IRELAND will be complete and whole again, free to rule itself. Occupation is NOT OWNERSHIP. If I take someone's car, I do not own it. I might keep it, control it. I possess it, but it is NOT mine. Wrong is Wrong, everyday, always, no exceptions.
@Cameron Renwick, You are absolutley right, we cannot change the past. What is done is done. Thanks for saying that. And we can decide the future by consent, too true
That brought back memories. My uncle was in RGJ’s and I’m pretty sure he was on those first two tours....I think it messed his head up a bit to the point he PVR’d with my grandad buying him out. I ended up in Clogher in 1991 with 1st Btn R Anglian Regt, so the memories came flooding back when I saw that...I reckon it was even the same ‘room’ that I bedded down in as the one in the film in the bunker cabins. Certainly looked out of that sanger more than a few times. I remember we were often invited into farmhouse’s and homes for tea and scones whilst out on patrol and I don’t think they where exclusively Protestant or loyalist homes.
this brings back memories. I grew up in NI during the early 70s mid 80s and remember this well. father , uncle and cousin all in.the Royal Green Jackets. fantastic regiment. great soldiers. probably did more tours of NI than any other regiment. some of the stories .
@@friotaiocht101 It’s the fear of death that keeps you alert and alive. I served there for 2 years and met very few who weren’t fully aware of the situation we were in. Anyone who claims any different is either a sociopath or a liar.
Still av nightmares about it all. It could have been sorted a lot sooner if politics n pals in media hadn't roused an stirred hatered on both sides for political gains . I feel so sorry for that lady after loosing her boy, i mean that. But i also feel sorry/pain over the filthy covert killings, collision, hassessment and mental and physical torture inflicted on us..
I was based at the Deanery a few years after this and the village hadn't changed a bit but the camp had. Sniper screens all round and a super sangar at the back gate. We didn't live in portacabins anymore either, we lived in a massive mortar hardened concrete block known as the cube but had to wear body armour and helmet and double down to the cook house which was still in a portacabin. Downtime was spent either in the cube or in the bar in the R IRISH block watching telly with your two cans when you weren't dry.
How can Soldiers be made so welcome at the Start from the Whole Minority of Catholics that were under siege at that time, and over a very short period, be despised?? How come no one ever asked these questions?? There was something missing and left out here?
@blahblahblah blah Thanks, I just read a few books on it. The Unionists never wanted the Sectarian Colony to be shared equally with it's native residents. I always wondered what really happened.
1975, 1976 and 1977 - Long time ago but just yesterday for me. RGJ in Dungannon (1975) thoght they looked scruffy when we relieved them...just inter regimental banter really. Respect due and given from XIX of foot.
@@liamoloveboxing6844 Are you talking about the Republic, or Northern Ireland? If the first, there were many more factors and it's significantly more complicated than that simple story. If the North, well, it's still a firm part of the United Kingdom, so what are you talking about?
Andy McNab was in the SAS at the time this documentary was made, and he got his MM for an action in South Armagh and the sniper in this documentary took out Jim Bryson and Paddy Mulvenna in 1973 in Belfast. McNab didn't join until 1977
I thought the lad who made the analogy about Portugal spoke well and truthfully. Not particularly a good thing though in the British army in terms of pleasing your superiors.
A squaddie who really didn't know much about the new Dail (with its Sinn Fein majority) that approved the Six Counties of Ulster on Partition in 1921. Or that the IRA lost the Civil War in 1923. Meaning that the IRA/PIRA have never had any democratic legitimacy to wage a terrorist war in Northern Ireland.
I,m an ex para did many tours including Fermanagh. Survived numerous incidences whilst in the province and if that wasn’t enough survived the bombing on our barracks in Tern Hill. This was a war in all respects.
Growing up i wanted to join the Army, but Mum said she didn't want me to go to Northern Ireland, so that and a number of other factors caused me to join the RAF, where was my last tour? Aldergrove, the RIC(NI) to be exact. I had a great 2.5 year tour, lots of great experiences, both off and on duty, mixing with all sorts and if me mum knew what i got up to at times she'd kill me.
Were helmets not worn back in the late 80s in more rural areas? I don't recall any soliders wearing soft covers until around the mid 90s and there was a big deal made about it. And this was in more netural / Unionist areas in Belfast as opposed to the most ropey areas as shown in the video.
We started off our NI training in berets then we’re told we would wear helmets on tour.. that was in ‘88 ..I remember us wearing our beret’s on our last patrol though..
Yeah they were, I was in Tyrone the end of '88 and we wore our "bone domes" right to the end. We were also the last unit to use the SLR as well for what it's worth, even the the UDR was using the "new" SA80.
Total respect to these brave Warriors. I live in Protestant, West Belfast and remember the Royal Green Jackets serving in Belfast. I then moved to the Crumlin road, Belfast where I seen the RGJ serving in Girdwood barracks. I joined the local Army Cadets up in Girdwood Park. My daddy was Ulster Defence Regiment and he always had great respect and admiration for the Green Jackets because they lost so many men up in Ardoyne if I remember right? God Bless those fallen soldiers and their families 🙏✝🇬🇧💔
Served in 91 with 1st battalion THE ROYAL HIGHLAND FUSILIERS was a experience that I will never forget and I just came back from the 1st gulf war to go to another war great video of brilliant men who are my brothers
Did 6 Months there in Clougher, not long after this. Got Mortared not long after we got there. As we were Royal Irish Rangers we were treated decently most of the time by the locals. Had plenty of tea stops and the odd full breakfast in the odd farmhouse. 12, of us in the multiple, muddy boots etc. The people were good to us.
Royal Green Jumpers? Please tell me that used to be 'Jaegers'. Does "PI" stand for Private Investigator(s) or what? Is this even supposed to be in English? ;P
It's Pl (PL). It means platoon. So it's Mortar Platoon, 2 Battalion of the Royal Green Jackets. The Green Jacket bit relates back to when most of the Army wore red coats, their antecedent regiments wore green.
The laughter of our children? It'll be the laughter of islam dominating Ireland but the stupid shinners will say 'Brits out but blacks and browns are as Irish as we are'.
@irbfenian2594 you are typical of the dumbed down shinner that no longer thinks Ireland is the Irish homeland. I bet you're waving your palestinian flag even though muslims hate you and are here to conquer. You remember that when they're ruling Ireland.
i was in clogher in 1992 joined up in 1990 : watched the police station blow up in five mile town that year and area search for a device provrd fruitfull as it blew about 800m from us and cuaght the bastard heading towards us in our road block.
And I've seen the original...it wasn't the BBC who cancelled out a certain word....." When I walked down a school bus,kids @ 14.."so you knew there age...,....???!!!!!!!!
Your army sided with one community against another. Your army occupied and oppressed people in my country. Yee deserved everything yee got. And don't give us crap abut a job...there was always work in the US or Australia. Plenty of people in Ireland had this attitude to yee...ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fTS09G__CqQ.html
@@paddy864 Plenty. So? That was our job to resist your occupation. You oppressed our people, not for this conflict but for centuries, you get what you deserve.
@@RebelofIreland well done for owning up to numerous counts of mass murder, because of something you think Cromwell did four centuries ago, you morally deficient moron.
@jon tyler Full time results: British forces killed 146 IRA. IRA killed 1058 British forces. An additional 852 soldiers died due to "vehicle accidents" and suicide. The 14 innocent civilians you mentioned are not accounted for here. They're part of the 2000 civilian dead. (Of which British forces killed 1074 and Republican paramilitaries killed 829.) No offence intended, just giving the numbers. ://cain.ulster.ac.uk/sutton/book/#append www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1482975/Troop-deaths-in-Ulster-higher-than-thought.html
@@paulduffy4585 well you need to learn how to read properly then. The figure of 763 relates to security forces killed in terrorist actions. Adding deaths from natural Causes, road accidents and suicides to that is stupid as they had nothing to do with terrorism. This is what happens when you make hasty assumptions and allow your biases to kick in. I served many tours of NI over my 22 year career during which time I knew of one suicide, which was totally unrelated to NI, and four dead in traffic accidents, again unrelated to terrorist activity. Only 10% of those killed in NI were at the hands of the Security Forces, the other 90% were killed by terrorists of whom most were killed by republicans .
Yeah I was down there that time and had RMP, s attached on the pvcp, s. Remember one called Poulton I think a good lad. Did all of the pvcp, s on the border and the watch towers in South Armagh in 86.
I was on a signals course in Warminster. We had a presentation down in the cinema. So the Sgt in charge of us fell all the gurkhas, green jackets and light infantry out. Formed up the heavy guys, told me "Cpl Weston, form up the light division. Wait 5 mins and then march them down, you'll probably beat us anyway". So he formed up the heavy mob and set them off. "Left" naafi break "right" naafi break "left" naafi break "right". 5mins later, I said to the squad. "OK guys, I'm warning you now, I'm really gonna knock the pace out here, let's show these twats what light division pace is like" "SQUAD, move to the left quick, MARCH. Left, right, left, right". A few minutes later we caught them up, wheeled out into the centre of the road, passed them by, cracking out the pace. We got to the cinema, everyone was fucked, breathing hard. I told them to stand easy. Then as we heard the heavies coming round the corner I braced them up. I looked at them and we were all smiling, proud as fuck to be Light Division.
@No Togoogle Doesn't show anything happening to him in the end. Personally, and I'm a Irish men born and bred I hope he's still very much alive and well. In fact, what was it all for in the end?. All the deaths, injuries and miseries on all side's, it was all for fuck all.
@@gearosin81 you're definitely right about him being a green jacket! Was he a Geordie though? I can't remember. Before they were amalgamated did rgj recruit in the north east?
10:48 A mortar attack alarm for a mortar attack against the soldiers presence. If I don't wish to get splashed at a puddle I stay away from the puddle. It was so easy to save so many soldiers lives. I think a lot of really bad politicians and leaders made this event escalate. RIP to those who died.
After the soco’s had done their stuff, I was tasked by the CSM to go to Queen Street RUC station with my section and clean out the landrovers from the Crocus St attack. It was the worst thing I have ever done in my whole life. My lads refused to do it, so I did it myself. I’m 64 now and that day haunts me still. They should have got another unit to do do it…..
Great soldiers, always used to let me look threw the sights of the gun when I was young, pity they were murdered for tryin to keep the peace in Northern Ireland. And to make things worse the serial killers that done the bombing and killing were all let out of prison , madness. And worse again the leaders of Northern Ireland praise the murder that went on 😣😣
At approximately 22:30 the interviewer asked if the Cpl should have given a warning before opening fire, technically yes but that is only because we tried to play by the rules, personally I think that if you can identify a person as a threat to you or anyone in your vicinity then you should just open fire, and in this case the answer was they were definitely a threat. Why should the British military be constrained by rules when the enemy aren’t, they only care about one thing, killing us.
Like when you opened fire on civilians at a civil rights march?.Brit army started this when done it...IRA was defunct since 1916.... majority not politically minded at all just looking revenge....sad but true
"An enemy on British Soil" Pretty much defines the problem with the British attitude being that it's in IRELAND. It's got nothing to do with religion. That's the distraction. Its been about everything since the initiation of the Ulster plantations established in the 1600's and the displacement of the Irish natives.
@@jonwoo8217 Woo? that's like saying Taiwan is part of China. Or the Spratly Islands for that matter. Look at a map. Read some history before you make asinine comments.
@@MrJerryrigged1 I am aware of the history, christ half of my undergrad degree was history, it doesn't matter. NI is part of the UK, no matter what philosophical historical comparisons you attempt to ham handle in. Suck it up you commie.
only part intelligible comment I've seen on this, going back to 1600 ish that being your opinion, can you please explain who exactly is the Irish man or how did they suddenly own or populate( Ireland) or where did they come from, think you need to read a bit more history.the leprechaun didn't jump out of the center of Ireland...read more
I was in 1st Battalion Scots guards then and we took over from the green jackets in County Fermanagh, they were good lads if a little bit slack compared to the guards but good lads nevertheless.
Was talking to kne of yours ghe other day at work ,I worked out of Rossmount RUC Station in Londonderry back in 92 ,we had a platoon of Welsh Gaurds with us they were chilled out tbh ,the (swede mob) we were working for were bullshityy as fxxk ,used temperate combats on patrol etc 😳. The Welsh lads were all in SAS smocks and Danner boots (kin hell showing my age) - got on well with them.
@@ivorlongshot yes they took over from us, me and a few other team leaders stayed back a week to take them on familiarisation patrols, good bunch of lads.
@@kevinadamson5768 We were the last ones out of Lackybridge when your lads took over. I think we had them for a week as well, they were decent lads although I can't remember their names now, I'm lucky to remember my own these days. I do remember the lance sergeant being really unhappy that the high sangar was on even ground and could be easily approached from three different directions on foot in the darkness. I was glad to get out of there.
Funny the candor of the unit leader : good quality fertile land there is protestants, crappy quality hilly bog is the Catholic land, hmm I wonder why those catholics are pissed off?
Who wants land ? , no money in farming anymore . Catholics have 9 MPs out of a total of 18 in the North . They make up 85% of the population of Derry . They have three out of four MPs in Belfast and make up 60% of the student population in Queens University . Most solicitors in the North are now Catholic .Give it another 20 years and the Protestants will be begging for a United Ireland because the only other option they will have is to go back to Scotland or wherever they came from.
@@harrystiles8195 there's still protestant on Catholic sectarian attacks in Belfast, mostly housing intimidation. If it were as you say it would be the other way around.
@@paulbrowne5049 The PSNI is 70% protestant and that is why the loyalist thugs get away with what they are doing , not only to working class Catholics but to immigrants as well . Catholics who join the PSNI are treated like outsiders by the PSNI and the dissident Republicans in their own community . Getting blown up by a car bomb puts a lot of Catholics off from joining the PSNI .
I was a kid in the 80's here in America and my first introduction to "the troubles" was a gun shop in my city was caught shipping guns to N. Ireland. Mostly AR15's and AR180's. I can't remember if he was supporting the IRA or the UDF, but it made me follow what went on there ever since. If anyone was wondering, the gun shop was in Baltimore Maryland.
It depends on who owned the shop ...in my opinion it was headed for the IRA I know that whitey bulger used to organise arms shipments to the Irish also ex marines gave a lot of know how when it came to explosives
The journalist doing the interviewing is Peter Taylor, & the stupid questions he was asking were typical of large amounts of the defeatist press coverage of the Ulster War whilst it was going on, i.e. "it's all hopeless, troops are making it worse - troops out". This type of reporter carrying on like this - & he did it all thru the conflict - was a bloody menace as all it did is encourage P-IRA to keep going thru the 70's/80's thinking they were getting somewhere. Ironic that for all his ?'s here implying the war was unwinnable for the British Army, it was winding down, & P-IRA surrendered only a couple of years after this.
You have a bit of a warped view point on this.. So did ya know since the early 70`s the IRA were setting up a political movement through shin fein , in order to reach a political settlement to the conflict,however the British gov wanted this to continue and would dub over any speeches , banned any dialogue with both sides?. AS long as its over there and not on the mainland the gov were happy to send young naive lads and ladies to the conflict, but once it became a mainland bombing campaign and was at the doors and threatening the British public at large was the turning point in the conflict and forced the gov to open back channels to talk directly with both sides.. also long before you were born there`s been an IRA . your little time in the north is like a tear drop in the ocean with regards to Irish history 300 yrs of occupation crown forces driven out ,split between state and original combat forces which went on to be today's IRA. there`s been no surrender by the republican movement, but by all means keep telling yourself that.. after all the biggest recruitment driver into the ranks of the provisional was the British state itself , the soldier in the vid covered it.. based in every Irishman`s soul is the history of the island , which inc resistance from any occupying force , from the vikings to the British crown.. and it would only take an insensitive gov in parliament, to send some toff clown no idea about the conflict and history and make him minister for N-Ireland the fuck things up and find an insurgency again acting inside the British state with a ballot and bomb approach to the goal. N-ireland has now gov a generation which has not seen conflict i sincerely hope for all our sake`s , the gov of Britain finally learn after trying 3 times now to fight an insurgency that is a force which cant been seen or differentiated from the civilian in the street.
McNab didn't join until 1977 and that sniper took out Jim Bryson and Paddy Mulvenna in Belfast in 1973. At the time this programme was made, he was already in the SAS.
Phil Shaw the interview in this must of been done few years before. As no way he could of joined passed Selection Done his training to then become the patrol commander for the gulf
Dude, they were armed. Fuck them, well within the rules of engagement ... Besides live by the sword ... die by the sword. One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
