Pompadours Out On The Streets 

Yeah showed the usual soldier in his natural habitat no respect no discipline borstal boys

They did know but this was done before the pc brigade took over.

@@northred4930 You melt!

@@Ripper36068 Borstal boys

The Irish have deserved a lot better for nearly 900 years but who is counting, eh!

Chris Wilde thank god we never have to see British soldiers again

With ref to Max M's comment, What part of NEVER do you not understand? The Irish very much have the balls to fight when the cause is just or to defend ourselves. I regret to inform Max M that there are still Brit soldiers in Ulster

@@chriswilde7246 OK, whatever. Never gonna see things the same way, you and me. I just can't think of any occasion ever where the British army had to fight Ireland's battles. It seems that all of Ireland's battles have been against the British.

@@chriswilde7246 OK. Good insight, cheers

I agree fal SLR was a better weapon than sa 80 all it needed was a rail for optics .

@@thecurlew7403 I served with both weapons and the SA80 was an improvement. Far more accurate and yes it had problems but they have long been fixed. People seem to forget that the SLRs were worn out. Zero was a problem with the hinge being worn etc.

Shorter barrel was more convenient for Vehicles which the modern military rely on more now than ever. Then there was the switch to 5.56 from 7.62 which was another major factor. I used both in my time as I joined shortly before the SLR was phased out. I preferred it personally even though I was a Plant Operator in the Engineers. Gas setting Zero NO STOPPAGES.

They were thinking they wanted a more compact service rifle in the new NATO calibre of 5.56 mm, with the option for full automatic fire.

Done a tour in 84 got a leave flew back into West Belfast Airport. No fucker there to pick me up Airport shut at 2200. Fuck this for a game of soldiers. Ditched what I had with me an walked until I hit a brick from rhf. On my knees etc, hands above head. They confirmed I was who I said I was. Dropped me at Palace. I honestly thought I wasn't going to see another day again It worked out OK 🤣😂 Guys in back off land-rover were amazed. You walked through there? Yes I played drunk. Saved my life I know that I think my own unit had posted me as missing presumed dead. Sgt that picked me up great guy, was speechless. He just swore a lot, He thought I'd been taken never to be seen again.. As I told hin fuck that John you owe me a beer. 🤣😂 There is fear an there is fear, Gun in hand. Managble No gun no back up on you're own. Fk I was a good actor..

Yep Remember working with the Anglians out of GCH in 1979.

@@stevecunningham6537 Nowadays You'd get your mobile out and call the cavalry.

We wernt even allowed cameras in the 80s,5 films 24 pics boots the chemist allowed 6, they weren't allowed to develop them., obviously official secrets act etc. But yeah plenty videos on here of grim times.

Better he looks like he is the man concentrating on his role.

he is on foot patrol. they are there to cover his back and keep him safe so he can go about his police duties. how often do you see a bobby running down the street in london... unless he is chasing someone of course

@@michaelswann8046 You don't even see that anymore in London, there's not enough old bill around anyway lol..

And that's why a lot of ruc got shot .

@@kevinadamson5768 most got shot off duty when they were ‘ soft’ easy targets. Plus they had to live outside of barracks in communities which often weren’t ideal with many having to leave their homes literally in the middle of the night on occasions - at least the soldiers could return to their barracks!

Yeah they leave that out of the films.

Watch Jarhead, that's a pretty good representation of what you're talking about. Boredom and drills, it sucks.

I was there in 80...also K. O. B

KOSBYs I thought was the regiments name probably those pen pushers at the MOD amalgamating regiments the cunts were gonna get shot of the black watch .

Yeah murdering borstal boys

@@northred4930 based

@@Oooo-bi7bi No.

@@Oooo-bi7bi Not sure what i was saying no to? My guess is someone has deleted a comment ?

They had a better life than the Catholics.

Me Bovington 75 --loved my SLR THX mate

Essential in the field with a waterproof notepad📝

@@james9311 and model kit.

@@dulls8475 green string and foot powder

@@james9311 cam cream and sowing kit...

The back entrance....Stood there for too long!

is that the one between st malachy college and belfast royal academy on the cliftonville road ?

I grew up in Bruce vale

Carry it for a few hours and it felt like three tons too.

Sa80 is heavier and has a longer barrel, even though it's shorter!!

SLR just looks sexier though and eh plenty deadlier!!

Better if you had a SUIT on. BANG, paddy didn’t like 7.62 mm

Bit racist aint ya

@Soldier G I was from Suffolk, the good side lol ,thanks for everything you did mate 👍👍👍👍👍

He died in 2007

Yeah never did understand that when I was in Armough. 🤔

Agreed and up the Albion!

And then seek therapy for it!

Especially those who have shot innocent children with a plastic bullets , my god forgive him for such an act

Was you trained at Bassingbourn?

@@chriswilde7246 yes. Then ITB/ITCB OUSTON.

@@chriswilde7246 Yep. Bassingbourn in Royston. Then trained few miles out of Newcastle on Otterburn etc sure the place was called OUSTON.

@@CARLIN4737 Was just wondering, I was at bassingbourn end 81.. Thanks for that, take care mate..

OAFAAF

Yes food was ok, free as well, field conditions. Can't remember how much NI pay was back in 79, think we cleared about £220 a month which for a young lad was good money. You worked more less 6 days a week so didn't have much time to spend it even on an 18 month tour.

Accom was only temp so made do,the food was always top notch on tour and plenty of it. Lived like millionaires for a month when we got back.

Nah I don't think you can relate to a tour in NI in 80s No disrespect ment 🤣😂 But go fuck youreself. If you wernt there shut the fk up.

I try to talk about it with a brother who did Afghan. Some things are very similar. The fear. The humour. The snco's. The new Rupert. Fun and games.

How different was it to Belfast?

@@BigSupremePacHamster it was mainly countryside with small villages dotted about . Manning checkpoints and patrols .

@Yourda 473i of course we did.

@Yourda 473i very.

@Yourda 473i no that was mainly Belfast . Rubber bullets were effective in training.

Aye the ruc guy that goes home to look under his car every morning or wait for a bullet through his window..

As a civilian from West Belfast the very mention of The RUC a deeply sectarian paramilitary force, chills my blood. A situation was created in which members of a 100 per cent Unionist sectarian force were able to vent their hatred for the catholic population under the guise of police officers. Like their UDR counterparts they were so notorious that their very titles were changed to PSNI AND RIR in an effort to shed their notoriety.

Wouldnt have mattered if he was Muslim, he was part of a sectarian force who constantly harrassed the catholic population, and colluded with loyalist paramilitaries, in the murder of catholic CIVILIANS, FACT! But what would I know? I just lived there!

And the nationalist population were 99 per cent what?

Balls.There were many Catholics who served in both the RUC and the UDR. Many a time I was on the receiving end of an RUC man's boot or baton and I'm a Protestant!

@Straight White British Protestant So, are you saying that it is/was OK to harass Nationalists or part of their job to do so? Is being Irish and wanting to see an end to the partition of Ireland a crime. Is it a crime to simply not like the police force? Any police force is supposed to be entirely neutral in carrying out their duties.

Even the INIBA jackets, with plates were Shite too. Was in XMG, 1991/ 2 when he cut a young crow in two with the sniper rifle.

We’re about we’re u Donegal or Cavan or even Monaghan ulster is Irish ya CUNT lucky u didn’t go home in a body bag like the rest of ur foreign invaders

@@poneil6442 lay off the poitín you fucking idiot.

You must be working class.

Sas Mcdade twat

At least they could fit into a uniform and land rover.......unlike you

bascet1 but less dangerous

Fucking lolololol. 😂 safer in Belfast.

Strange, my dad was with the royal Anglians and he mentioned that his commanding officer had been on tour in Northern Ireland.

We took over from the Anglians in South Armagh. Scots guards.

The Anglians took over from us in south armagh early 87. I was 1 scots guards .

That's a lot of Belfast footage there, mixed up. I think the Film editors just mixed a of of general scenes seeing as you guys say they were in South Armagh.

Benjamin Blake Mitchner just goes to show how brainwashed the British public are, especially the working class, I watched them recruiting kids with nothing out side DHSS offices promising them a career and a medal and sign them up to kill for them, the ones that survived ended up on heavy medication with no help, these working class areas are left with no hope, no jobs, and no future with food banks, created for this reason, ripe for the picking!!

@@garethcullen9604 ?? Why

Loved my SLR

Yeh should be paid to take over shoot kids and use kids as shields against the ira deffo top lads

You would side with your Anglo brothers, being descendant from land thieves, enslavers and people who carried out genocide in the "Americas". Ireland for the Irish.

Every time i have one i always thing of the end of a patrol....sort of miss being young.

If you believe that then you are deluded.

@@conlaiarla your the one who is deluded pal.

There was a civil war you Doughnut

@@connorboland794 and there would have been more bloodshed if the army weren't called in to quell you crank.

Colonialism, that's what it was, the British invaders were the real terrorists.

Would you?

No i think it only really came in 87/88 ish

And I would have thought that after more than 800 years they would have ngot te message and fucked off home to England

No, i was on this tour, we went to SA80 shortly after our return to Germany

catpainblackudder01 because they killed all of the soldiers they saw

Wonder why they did that.

@@johnoriordan7419 Because they're murdering scum......

@@johnoriordan7419 it was because they didn't have the manpower or resources. What good would it have been during the conflict to imprison a British soldier. It wasn't practical, almost never possible and of no advantage in the struggle. That is why they never took prisoners of war. They did upon occasion make a brief arrest during operations if it they deemed it called for. Of course they considered themselves prisoners of war if they were jailed for their involvement. They would liken it to a member of the French resistance being captured (on active duty and because of their activities) by German soldiers during the second World War. Does that answer the question?

@@tomsoki5738 They killed only a small number of the British soldiers they saw BTW. They passed them on the street on a daily basis but only killed when the likelihood of success in their mission was high.

PRO PAINTER not as active as the PIRA that’s for sure.

@@JB-qr2jq Republicans killed 721 civilians and loyalists killed 878 civilians - not as active?

@@JB-qr2jq Loyalists were murdering more than the Pira from 85 till the GFA the Pira bombs that's blew up manchester city centre and canary wharf causing tens of billions of damage

leggie spbfb what you said is totally wrong. The only year the loyalists out killed republicans was 1993. The period 85 to 90 was one of increased IRA activity with the Libyan weaponry.

Gabriel Kelly you speak of loyalists as if they were one group. The UDA and UFF were different organisations, albeit both mainly targeted innocents civilians. PIRA themselves had a higher death rate than any other organisation .

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I nursed a soldier in the RVH who’d been in a “ pig” doing a resupply to an out station when a mortar came in the side of the wagon. Fortunately he lived to tell the tale! First time I met him I said “ I hear you tried to catch a rocket” and he really laughed despite his injuries. Great guy.

Not delivering petrol bombs I hope lol

Pre-tour training was tough,the training teams really put you through it. Remember these where already trained soldiers.

They are not talking about basic training sputum.

NITRG tour specific training not basic training, ignorant fool

I don't think it ever stops!

Always rained in NI even in the 80’s

Should have got a real job then.

Having been there you must have had a sheltered life

We are jack of all trade soldiers. We have the foundations to be versatile as we have to cover so many different types of training from this to fighting a conventional war. Every 2 years we changed rolls. Just as you were getting good at one thing you moved on to another roll. So you may go from armoured infantry to Artic Warfare training as spearhead, or to NI for a tour. Completely different training.

I remember it was in to have that “sunbed orange”tan back in the late 80s. 😄

Topped up with caratin tanning pills i bet ha

When better, more stable helmets were provided, round about the period of this film. The troops seen here are wearing helmets developed specifically for NI duties.

We had helmets on constantly when I was there in 97

@@alex1975uk Thank you for your reply, appreciated

@@japhfo thanks for the reply

Coming back in after a 4 or 5 day patrol and waking up the duty cook to make eggs banjos and chips. Hot food after days of rat packs.....Lovely

@@KP-viking88 Memories we remember. Stay safe Mucker.

@@truckertom3323 Egg banjos are still one of my comfort foods. Once did a straight 12 nights out on patrol, getting resupplied at the Golf Towers. And you chap!

@@KP-viking88 Egg Bango is the same here, something to be savoured, done to perfection.(with HP Brown Sauce) And same with the 7-14 days out on the rural patrols, 19 yrs old, fit and clued up. The Re supply would be done via/as a VCP at grid references given during briefing, water/rations etc, then scurry back into the Green Gauze bushes, with the yellow flowers,and thorns! then lay up. 60 in July me, but remember everything like it was yesterday, PTSD was something i never thought about, i am still on patrol, in my head, looking for the Gun men.

Even my missus knows what an egg banjo is now. God's gift to cuisine.

They were used for target practice.

Apparently hard targeting is for crap hats.

I bet the Paras hard targeted like everyone else....

🤣🤣🤣

I think they’re one of the better line infantry regiments nowadays

@@Osama-Bon-Jovi-01 The gap between what you think and the facts are as long as the distance between the moon and Polaris my friend.

Did you fail to get into the TA?

I served in the regular army and did not apply to join. From my observations, I have found the practices of the Anglians to be subpar. I apologize if my statement causes any discomfort, but I am simply expressing my honest observations and opinions cupcake.

@@SimDeck So your elite regiment was? I am guessing it is the 2nd Bn TA Armchair Regiment.

@@YorkieLad Weekends on patrol with the DMSU 👌

Why not ... if they broke the rules of engagement? Should there be no accountability for those british troops that killed because they were filled with anti Irish propaganda and hatred? Those that acted responsibly have nothing to fear from the law. Irish people have seen British troops getting away with murder in every century. We dont expect any justice from British courts this time either.

Brits are not above the law.

@@cormacmacdonncha1052 well said.

No you wouldn't and I volunteered for it lol! I must've been mad.

There wasn't a lot off laughing or joking my friend. Wasn't the way it was. Frankie goes to Hollywood was number 1 during a tour summed life up 🤣😂 Welcome to the pleasure zone. An never volunteer for fk all.

Or just get out of Ireland. pretty simple ehhhh?

Why was your 1st choice to remove the indigenous. Stright in there with the genocide and ethnic cleansing like a true coloniser. that kind of thing is the reason there is a mess today, duuuuuuuuuuuhhhh

True, but for vehicle operations, Id take the SA80. CQB too.

Im from the SA80 era althought the A2 was much improved cocking handle and H+k plus gas parts worked much better you darnt lay down the old A1 the wrong way down the cocking handle would drop out a absolute bag of shit it was ha ive fired an SLR on a range proper weapon although like you said i bet it was hard work on CQB or in a vehicle

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They aren't Snatches there APVs fully armour plated used in West Belfast and Londonderry much better protected

1st is the Vikings, 2nd is Poachers, 3rd was pompadours

@@KP-viking88 yeah I know 1st and 2nd I'm ex mob myself guess just a bit to young lol

@@heresjohnny1219 I have a vague memory that steelbacks was either a company name (in the 2nd batt.) or back in the 60's the Regt. had a "super"company called it.

@@KP-viking88 yeah way before my time I'm an early 80's baby lol didn't sign up until '03 2 RLC close support sqn/Logistics support regt

@@heresjohnny1219 I never knew the army called themselves the mob as well. I thought it was just the navy that did.

Cormaca macdonncha Know that we won’t go into a united ireland quietly.

Good comment, Cormac.

@@shankill178 Howya Sam, it's you prerogative to either make NI a positive place for Nationalists or to bring violence back to the streets if you are out voted. You need to start thinking strategically about the future.

@@cormacmacdonncha1052 You will need to get the Republic out of the EU firstly, then something could happen.

@@shankill178 Howya Sam, you are very entitled to this peaceful view. My comment to you is that you either embrace Nationists love for the Irish language inside a new 'equal' Northern Ireland, or, if you dont, the number of mild Nationalists wanting to join a united Ireland will increase to become an overall majority. Your choice - you seem to be lacking a strategy and driving the North into a permanent state of 'us and them' for the next generations.

Right regiment but 3RGJ was better lol

WELL WE WERE THE BEST EX ANTI TANKS 2RGJ

They volunteered sprout....leave it.

Get a job .

Peacekeepers*

They cant get to grips with this fact mate!

I thought a lot of men from northern ireland served in the wars

@@raleighburner1589 men from all over Ireland served. My grandad from County Meath was in the royal engineers 1914 to 1919, and served in Gallipoli amongst others. Brave men.

For having the flag of the place they were ‘defending’ ?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1382070/I-fired-shots-on-Bloody-Sunday-says-IRA-man.html

Its obvious they were, the evidence is that they came to stop the Irish killing each other and left when the IRA surrendered.

Phessupp@ A yank preaching about civilian casulaties! behave. The most ill disciplined trigger happy bunch on the planet.

It's just myself, so it when church's(darkley) , fish shops(Shankill Rd) or guys returning from work(Kingsmill) are gunned down its nothing to do with politics and everything to do with religion that's only 3 out of hundreds of incidents of sectarianism on both sides.

The Shankill bomb never killed any UDA it was a bomb taken into a packed shop full of innocent people the UDA meeting place was upstairs why not attempt to gain entry or put a Asu near it and catch them going in and shoot them, as I said in my previous comment its only 3 out of hundreds of incidents on both sides,the days of the United Irishmen were forgotten by the Provos and the INLA it was murder a planter simple as that mate the other side no better.

LEGGIE YTPOWERY The majority of people the IRA (& INLA) killed were soldiers, cops, agents and paramilitarys. They killed around 2000 people, about 700 of that were civilians, about 1000 security forces, the rest were largely paramilitary. Loyalists killed about 1000, near 900 were civilians. See the difference? 90% of deaths caused by loyalists were innocent people, often targeted just because they happened to be in a certain place and were assumed to be Catholic / nationalist / republican. Like I already said about the Shankill bomb, it went off early. Mistakes were made, that much is clear. I'm not in the IRA, so I don't know why they didn't put a few men on the Shankill but its more than likely because they'd be found out and lynched, being suspicous and unknown to everyone around them, sitting outside the UDA's HQ. Alarm bells would ring. Nationalist area's were similar in that they knew when strange cars or people were in the area so my best guess is they wanted to get in and get out. Remember too, the IRA weren't that well trained. Shitloads of the UVF and UDA were members of the British armys UDR, Michael Stone had been in the Cadets, Gusty Spence was ex-army and still with their military training had their share of fuck-ups. I'm not saying every murder was political because often it was simply reprisals for the death of civilians, which if you look at the numbers you'll see the UDA and UVF were clearly trying to push pressure on the nationalist community and at the same time provoking the IRA into retaliation. You may argue with that and say it was purely sectarian but for the most part I disagree, but I accept there were a number of incidents. Look up the main massacres if you don't believe me, you'll mostly see one side committing an attorocity followed by the other side hitting back in a similar way. Usually it was loyalists who killed a load of civilians and the IRA answered back in kind. People can accept the death of an IRA, UDA, UVF, INLA, RUC or Brit soldier but intentionally targeting civilians is not acceptable to the majority of people including myself, and given the 900 out of 1000 people loyalists killed being innocent it should be clear to see who was targeting civilians in a sectarian rather than political fashion. "...at the time, the attitude was that if you couldn't get an IRA man you should shoot a taig, he's your last resort" - Gusty Spence (UVF commander) When the Troubles were beginning around 68 the Official IRA were Marxist, they didn't want fighting between the working class nationalist and loyalist communities, they wanted to bring them together but with loyalist mobs attacking nationalist areas under the eyes of the RUC and B-Specials, who sometimes took part in the attack, some IRA men broke ranks in an attempt to defend areas - this is where the Provos began. Both sides done some terrible shit, no doubt. But when you really look into it you'll find loyalists were the aggressor, and I don't even mean paramilitary attacks, i'm talking about before the shit really hit the fan when British soldiers were sent in to protect the nationalist community, in a statelet that was set up in the 20s which discriminated against Catholics / nationalists in jobs, housing and voting. What happened when nationalists marched for their Civil Rights? The (majority loyalist) cops beat them off the streets. Northern Ireland, in the eyes of unionism at the time was a "Protestant Parliament for Protestant people". Even your English counter-parts termed it "a mild form of tyranny". Plus even if you look at the war of 1919-21 you'll see most people the IRA targeted and killed were army or police, whereas the British could rarely locate any IRA men and often killed civilians in reprisals. I don't really understand why the Brits and loyalists are so fond of attacking civilians but if you read history thats what happened time and time again, always in higher percentages than the IRA. You can disagree with me all you want lad but i've spent the last few years reading up on this sort of thing, read a few dozens books on Ireland covering the past 100 years mostly, then another couple dozen books on similar conflicts, some books on guerrilla warfare written by insurgents, some books about counter-insurgency written by soldiers. I've looked up statistics and watched scores of documentaries, plus I actually live in Belfast so i've heard plenty of oral history and not just from republicans, i've worked in the homes of people linked to the IRA aswell as the UDA and given i've got an Irish first name its not like they were unaware of what my politics might be, things were always civil. And don't get me wrong, i've had several run-ins with ex-IRA men and old republicans, one of which was just the other week in a bar where he said something about religion and I started on him, telling him what I told you - republicanism is not about a Catholic Ireland, it was to create a state for all people. Yer man got right up in my face askin how old I am and telling me "I lived through it!" so I told him "and what? I was born into and lived through plenty - you're still talkin shite". I'm not bitter, i'm not sectarian, i'm not religious, I don't support violence against innocent people but I am a republican and I accept there were plenty of things that should never have taken place, essentially the murder of civilians intentionally. There was alot of lives lost through human error, either going off early (like Shankill) or warnings not recived in time. But had the IRA wanted to operate in the same way as loyalists, targeting civilians intentionally, they could have easily killed tens of thousands of civilians if they really wanted to. Read history, look at the stats, you'll see what I mean. Loyalists were worse than Republicans, I have no doubt about that but even still I acknowledge republicans did some horrific shit, sometimes accidentally, sometimes intentionally but still they killed a higher number of security forces (about 1000) and less civilians (700) than their loyalist counter-parts. Loyalists did horrific shit most of the time and intentionally aimed for civilians, hence the 90% in contrast to the IRAs 30% odd and the IRA (& INLA) had twice the body-count (around 2000) compared to loyalists' 1000 odd.

Protocol. I'd like to see you stand still for too long in that country whilst wearing British army uniform. 🤪

@@colin...101 It was a protocol ? Thank You for clearing up.

Never heard of snipers. Never scared. Look at 10 year anniversary of internment, West Belfast 79, 2 Pl, A Coy 3 R Anglian, Proud to have served with such brave lads.

Irish aware you don't need to be Einstein to shoot some fucker.

@@kevinadamson5768 I agree like when PIRA shot a mother of ten you mean?.

fun fact: the PIRA killed more roman catholics during the troubles than the british army

I am an ex squaddie and i am thick. Completely agree. Imagine how it would have felt for the IRA when we outwitted them.....