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@Roadstercycle
@Roadstercycle Год назад
Being a test pilot for Robinson Helicopter for 30 years and building Tesla powered Ford Mustangs I love the idea. The only issue is that flying for X number of minutes you don't get lighter with fuel being burned off so have have be careful of keeping enough hover battery power left to land safely as the weight does not change.
@moteroargentino7944
@moteroargentino7944 Год назад
Yes, that's a burden that electric vehicles will probably have forever. But if some day we develop batteries with more energy density than liquid fuels, they might make up for the weight.
@aeroengguy448
@aeroengguy448 Год назад
The Mosquito has great auto-rotation capability, so any engine loss can still be recovered safely.
@Roadstercycle
@Roadstercycle Год назад
@@aeroengguy448 That is great but that's not what I'm talking about. You have to be very conservative on your battery so you have enough power available when doing a normal landing. You need as much hover power in the beginning as in the end as the helicopter won't get any advantage from burning off fuel making the helicopter lighter. Just something that has to be learned. Pilot training is all.
@tvguide4khv
@tvguide4khv Год назад
its still a very good initial training device with ability to emulate different power trains
@lightman489
@lightman489 Год назад
@@Roadstercycle that must of been a dream job, and you must of been an very successful pilot maybe even military..I'm not a pilot but I've always observed the pilot throttle back to come down then giving it the throttle and just before touchdown backing off the throttle..I look forward to seeing a hybrid version as well
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Год назад
I appreciate the specific information about the components and the power information (e.g. 40 kW in hover, and even the motor speed of 2750 RPM). I recognized the Emrax motor design, but wouldn't have been sure of the model without it being stated, and I recognized the LG Chem modules but the confirmation is good. Prototype electric aircraft are often hard to assess without real power and energy data.
@legallyfree2955
@legallyfree2955 Год назад
But its easier for them to make up statistics if they don't provide any real world numbers ;) . How can you go and tell your customers you plan to give it a 3 hour flight time if at the same time you tell them there is 30kwh of energy on board and you require 40kw just to hover :P
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Год назад
@@hexad3c1m4l they didn't claim three hours - that was just a sarcastic comment by 'Legally Free'. The endurance is only 20 to 25 minutes, on about 16 kWh.
@20-9-93
@20-9-93 Год назад
@@brianb-p6586 top coment
@yacahumax1431
@yacahumax1431 Год назад
Great to see people keep experimenting. Sooner or later a breakthrough in battery technology will come.
@bitrage.
@bitrage. 11 месяцев назад
In 10 years we will say in 10 years we will have solid state...😂
@drood78
@drood78 10 месяцев назад
They're making helicopters not battery's.
@Karl_Squell
@Karl_Squell 10 месяцев назад
@@bitrage. Actually the Chinese came out with a battery in April that is supposedly able to power airplanes. The company name is CATL if you want to search it up
@skip741x3
@skip741x3 Месяц назад
It IS coming..quick charges, light weight and range exceeding a gas equivalant....these are the Holy Grail of the EV industry, that have held it back in times past but are about to be resolved ... this will affect ALL EV's be it aviation ,automotive ect.
@denu1879
@denu1879 Месяц назад
Sodium Cobalt batteries have been discovered today (24-04-2024) which will allow charges within seconds and doubling that found from Lithium batteries. Let's hope science beings this main stream!
@EVtripper
@EVtripper Год назад
Are you reading my mind? Can I help? Hire Me! You need regenerative braking to slow the blades down quicker.
@antonydecosta6262
@antonydecosta6262 11 месяцев назад
No thanks
@may21136
@may21136 10 месяцев назад
Bruh
@Pandainapandasuit
@Pandainapandasuit 9 месяцев назад
Bruh
@pimuce
@pimuce 9 месяцев назад
@@may21136electric helicopter ???
@shaf3006
@shaf3006 7 месяцев назад
we need the lightning harness
@kimnesvig254
@kimnesvig254 Год назад
This would get me back and forth from the island. If they can hover for 25 minutes right now, its already capable of making the trip.
@americanspirit8932
@americanspirit8932 Год назад
?????????????
@MrJoker.420
@MrJoker.420 Год назад
That's so cool man, props to you. Hope you get massive funding so can continue the good work ❤️
@Datan0de
@Datan0de Год назад
I don't think I've ever commented on this channel before, but I would love for you to follow the development of this helicopter! As battery technology continues to improve, I think we're going to see more and more aircraft like this, with steadily improving performance.
@munyaelliott
@munyaelliott 10 месяцев назад
Yes this is a great leap. Would definitely be interested in developing something like this although I'm concerned about battery times
@ransomedavis2208
@ransomedavis2208 Год назад
it seemingly can only currently go 1 - 2 foot off the ground aswell, but im loving the potential this is bringing.
@antr7493
@antr7493 Год назад
I love how many people are commenting that it has a short flight time or they have a long way to go. IT"S a prototype folks. Calm down
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Год назад
Yes, it's just a prototype. Unfortunately, since the fundamental endurance problem is the weight of the battery, there is not much improvement likely any time soon, even with unlimited development of the aircraft.
@antr7493
@antr7493 Год назад
@@brianb-p6586 🤣🤣🤣 your the exact same person that said airplanes, cars and the internet were fads. Oh you probably thought cell phones weren't going to last either 😂🤣😅
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Год назад
@@antr7493 No, I just acknowledge reality. A battery-electric helicopter will work well, with higher battery energy density. Even this one will work well for very short flights, once they fix the drive ratio; it is just a prototype, so that sort of change should be expected. By the way, I'm one of the people who gave your post a "thumbs up", but I've taken that away now.
@Polypeckerhead
@Polypeckerhead 6 месяцев назад
That fact that you wrote….. “Calm down “. You’re just as guilty.
@LoftechUK
@LoftechUK Год назад
This is insane. I really like it. It’s so instant power no waiting at all. It’s a way forward definitely
@jonathanbailie
@jonathanbailie Год назад
It's amazing the sound that thing still makes! What an awesome job!
@charlesmiddleton3247
@charlesmiddleton3247 Год назад
I served in the Marine Corps in aviation during the Vietnam Era. Mostly helicopters where I was. Loved every minute of it being around those flying machines. No fixed-wing for me!!
@user-tt4wb1ln6q
@user-tt4wb1ln6q 3 месяца назад
Че сбежал со ветнама ?
@heartsky
@heartsky Год назад
I like how you didn't cut out the engine-off rotor slow down shot and left the entire thing, kind of like a mini meditation, nice.
@lukaskopia
@lukaskopia Год назад
I spoke with Mathew Alborne at Oshkosh this year, I was very excited to see an electric helicopter there. I am so glad that they have a flying prototype now!
@ryanlemons3255
@ryanlemons3255 Год назад
@@psoriasishealth3817 just like snowmobiles in the areas not snowing so much
@railroadisolationist5452
@railroadisolationist5452 Год назад
Shoulda went to that
@glory122
@glory122 Год назад
Matt here. Was a pleasure speaking with you at Oshkosh Lukas. Hoping we can show it flying at next year's event!
@Martyn0001
@Martyn0001 Год назад
Ideal for flying from one side of your garden to the other!
@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib
@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib Год назад
At least they started the project, then they can work on flight time
@freedomstar3814
@freedomstar3814 Год назад
Make sure to have an electric charger at each end !
@user-xb9vf5qz3c
@user-xb9vf5qz3c Год назад
I like green 💚 small electric ⚡ helicopter 🚁
@NoobieToob
@NoobieToob Год назад
It might be useless to you who uses his truck to travel to other side of town to buy some meth and groceries but as a large farm owner I can use this to get to different parts of the farm, to check up on things.
@Martyn0001
@Martyn0001 Год назад
@@NoobieToob I touched a nerve there I think.
@SoirEkim
@SoirEkim 5 месяцев назад
That is exactly the design I love. A gorgeous bit of tech.
@SonnetGomes
@SonnetGomes Год назад
This is Brilliant. You guys are going in the right direction. I need these for EVs and Ebikes for now. Killer Motor and controller! Love it.
@flexairz
@flexairz Год назад
They're going backwards? 20 minute flight time..10 hours charge.. batt tech is mature.. its a dead end
@afireinside909
@afireinside909 Год назад
I’d love to see a follow up on it! That would be awesome to see the progress!
@HeliEnthusiast
@HeliEnthusiast 8 месяцев назад
This is exactly how we fly our RC helicopters. Amazing that stuff can apply to a full-size keep going.
@michaelgreen4537
@michaelgreen4537 9 месяцев назад
I love it, great video. Keep up the good work, can't wait to fly one. I've been waiting for years !!!
@savneetsinghrairai6823
@savneetsinghrairai6823 Год назад
Wow even in prototype i am loving it .....what a compact setup so smooth...... With more flying time in future i definitely love this concept 😍....... So simple and it's amazing...... Minor changes can do wonders keep it up 👌👌
@wtf2krazy
@wtf2krazy Год назад
I'm really curious to see what fault tolerance you can work into the Sevcon Gen4, typically they just open the main contactor and drop all power when they fault out which could be sketchy if don't have enough elevation to autorotate. LG chem cells are a great choice for this, really looking forward to future development of electric craft like this!
@glory122
@glory122 Год назад
Matt here. That is one of the concerns I had with using this controller. You are somewhat limited with how you want the controller to handle a fault situation. However we did already test it in an auto from about 4 ft and our pilot was able to successfully pull pitch quick enough and counter the tail to have a safe albeit quick landing without any damage. The problem I am actually looking at how to address is a temp fault (not requiring a key-switch reset) like an over-temp of the controller (primarily because we are spinning the motor to slow for the power we want, we are a bit too far over the controllers continuous amp rating to the motor), where it will cut back for about 0.5 second and then suddenly re-engage power. This is definitely a new experience for the pilot, where he would be making a tail correction in the auto to keep it from rotation and all of a sudden power is back and it rotates suddenly).
@wtf2krazy
@wtf2krazy Год назад
@@glory122 Glad to hear your auto tests have gone well. EV motor controls are still in their infancy and need projects like this to drive the requirements for aspects like fault handling. The Gen4 has a thermal cutback curve, (Figure 12) in the manual if you can dial in the thermal managment to stay under ~75-78C you'll be golden. If the high current draw is intermittent you increase the mass of the heatsink to try and get a little more thermal resistance for those flucutations. I'm sure you've looked at the options Curtis has for motor controls, they have better fault communication but I'm not sure if they are better at fault handling.
@onebravotango
@onebravotango 9 месяцев назад
You bring up an excellent point about fault tolerance and the Sevcon Gen4. Ensuring a safe response in case of faults is indeed crucial, especially when elevation might be limited. It's encouraging to see your thoughtful consideration for the technical aspects of electric aircraft development.
@wadetyrell
@wadetyrell Год назад
Awesome seeing technology advancing in new directions.
@voicetube
@voicetube Год назад
I'd love to see a follow-up! If they can get it up to one-hour flight time that would be a great follow-up!
@michaelvoorhees5978
@michaelvoorhees5978 Год назад
It crashed 2 days ago and burned
@ContentWizard
@ContentWizard Год назад
@@michaelvoorhees5978 I'm sorry to hear that :-( Was the pilot okay? Hopefully at some time a new version will be built (with longer-range etc.).
@tomcoryell
@tomcoryell Год назад
BrYan, the channel just keeps getting better. I really appreciate you keeping us up to date on really cool aircraft.
@aussiedigger1441
@aussiedigger1441 Год назад
Sounds just like my rc helicopters but bigger and better! Love to see come to production.
@seanconnolly2179
@seanconnolly2179 Год назад
Imagine this flies like a t rex dominator 450 😊
@RotoRCol
@RotoRCol Год назад
@@seanconnolly2179 but for sure not with someone inside to handle all these G's
@GabrielDeVault
@GabrielDeVault Год назад
@@seanconnolly2179 I wanna see manned tik-tocs!
@emusp
@emusp Год назад
It's a 90s setup. :D
@dji.mini.2
@dji.mini.2 Год назад
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@ostumbling
@ostumbling Год назад
You should configure your battery packs in parallel so to have redundancy. If one of your packs goes wrong then the whole thing goes down because you are wired in series. Hope you have a good BMS with plenty of heat regulating mosftes and something to regulate cell balancing etc...
@TheWatchmanNews
@TheWatchmanNews Год назад
Yea I would like to see the advancements they make on this. That is awesome. Hybrid is the way to go until they come up with a better battery chemistry (or release one anyway). That is so cool! I have been watching the Mosquito helicopters for years on youtube. I don't think I could ever fly one. Ill stick with FAR103 fixed wings. LoL
@maxfrobisher7849
@maxfrobisher7849 Год назад
This is really exciting to see - so much potential for development. Would love to see a follow up video.
@LauRoot892
@LauRoot892 Год назад
Max 😮
@scottmclaughlin5674
@scottmclaughlin5674 Год назад
Yeah, all we need to do now is add 16 times the weight in battery capacity..
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@farrukhahmad555 Год назад
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@kerrybarnes7289
@kerrybarnes7289 Год назад
unless they can get more out of the battery it has No potential
@trytolookbusy
@trytolookbusy Год назад
THEY ARE REALLY DOING SOME GOOD STUFF THERE!
@ExperimentalAircraftChannel
It is truly interesting... certainly! Thanks for watching!
@Metrofarquhar
@Metrofarquhar Год назад
Yes, definitely do a follow up on this fascinating project!
@fairlanewhip79
@fairlanewhip79 Год назад
That’s such an exciting prototype! Obviously the challenge is to extend that runtime and range.. as the battery technology catches up these kinds of aircraft will be such a cool and novel mode of transport for the people who are lucky enough to be involved!
@silverdude4668
@silverdude4668 Год назад
The entire chopper chassis would probably have to be completely remade to encorporate all of the added weight and packaging :/ Maybe a fundraiser model with the size of a robinson or a little bird? But it is a vital step for their developement as a company!
@chrishayes5755
@chrishayes5755 Год назад
modify a glider to an EV and design features to allow it to land vertically. helicopters are very inefficient and should be phased out IMO.
@nonconsensualopinion
@nonconsensualopinion Год назад
Solid state batteries are difficult to get right but a few companies have made some pretty good progress. Those batteries would really unlock the potential here. High capacity, light, and safe.
@illuminatedperspectives2894
25 MINUTES OF FLIGHT TIME? YOU MAY AS WELL GO BACK TO GAS ENGINES. THIS ISNT PROGRESS THIS IS GOING BACKWARDS LOL
@SweetLou0523
@SweetLou0523 Год назад
​@@illuminatedperspectives2894 the first electric cars had a thousand pounds of lead acid batteries and had a range of 20 miles. Look how far we've come from that, and remember that nearly ALL the massive ev advancement has been in just the last 10 years. This is a first gen, essentially prototype electric helicopter. Imagine in just 5 years how much more advanced they will be! Now imagine 10 years!
@Dionm01
@Dionm01 Год назад
15:08 Yes I would like to see a follow-up on this. Mainly I'd like to see what the hybrid solution will be. Because as it stands right now full electric is not the answer. But a hybrid would be. But we shall see what their research provides. My thoughts cheers Dion
@user-cn3np1qh2p
@user-cn3np1qh2p 9 месяцев назад
It's amazing the sound that thing still makes! What an awesome job!. It's amazing the sound that thing still makes! What an awesome job!.
@SF-fb6lv
@SF-fb6lv Год назад
Really impressive. I like the way they are pushing the tech even though so far the batteries only provide 25 minutes of flight.
@bshn10
@bshn10 Год назад
25 minutes at best. y'all are cucks
@patrickday4206
@patrickday4206 6 месяцев назад
If they doubled batteries could be a short commuter
@jebes909090
@jebes909090 6 месяцев назад
@@patrickday4206 more batteries = more weight and thus less flight time. so maybe double batteries would increase flight time by 50%, then quad batteries increase flight time a total of 75%
@patrickday4206
@patrickday4206 6 месяцев назад
@@jebes909090 tesla's wireless power then?? 😊 haha
@jebes909090
@jebes909090 6 месяцев назад
@@patrickday4206 thats the same tech the aliens used in independence day!! Elon innovating as usual.
@philip_fletcher
@philip_fletcher Год назад
This is really good to see - the best innovation seems to come from small companies. I realise you're using the existing airframe but the motor and inverter would sit beautifully just below the rotor (like most turbines), benefiting from a cooling downwash and freeing up space to fit the batteries in a more aerodynamic/inboard position.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Год назад
While I would put the inverter and the rest of the support package (cooling, etc) below the boom, I agree that placing the motor up there on the shaft from the belt drive pulley to the tail rotor shaft gearbox would free up valuable room immediately behind the mast line, below the boom. For those not familiar with the Emrax motors, I'll note that they have a hollow shaft which would facilitate installation coaxially over a shaft, although the bore of the Emrax 228 model is only 17 mm in diameter.
@sudeeptaghosh
@sudeeptaghosh Год назад
yeah less red tape.
@julianroa9905
@julianroa9905 Год назад
I would actually use two motors (one for main and the other for tail rotor) mounted directly to each axle to maximise efficiency.
@jessie7315
@jessie7315 Год назад
@@julianroa9905 That would be problematic for autorotation if you had an electrical failure that killed power to both motors.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Год назад
@@julianroa9905 separate motors are fine in a radio-controlled toy, but in an aircraft carrying a person they would be an unacceptable (to me) risk, because if high-voltage drive power fails yaw control is lost. It would be okay with sufficient redundancy and a high enough level of design and testing... but this aircraft is not constructed to anything like that level.
@leachimeel
@leachimeel Год назад
0:35 The way he says Norbert and then realizes how silly it was once he hears it correctly made me lol
@valentinvazquez7074
@valentinvazquez7074 11 месяцев назад
Very impressive the amount of sound out of the equation is excellent for stealth work or hunting whit out spooking everything. 👍
@ThalassTKynn
@ThalassTKynn Год назад
This is a great project, done very well. I look forward to how it develops. Personally I always prefer series hybrid, your battery would effectively become the reserve for if the engine quits, or if you have a sudden power draw for whatever reason. Then the engine can be at its most efficient. It works for trains lol
@okgroomer1966
@okgroomer1966 Год назад
But what's the point if we charge the batteries with fossil fuels. What has been accomplished other than making more toxic waist from battery production? I'm just not seeing the benefits of going electric. We can never hope to produce enough electricity with sun or wind, so why bother?
@donkihotay5748
@donkihotay5748 Год назад
@@okgroomer1966 I think Thalass just gave us the point, power train redundancy in the helicopter fixes an imminent danger to life and health...
@michaelmaddy278
@michaelmaddy278 Год назад
Nice looking helicopter, but being all electric would have its drawbacks, range would be affected by head winds, temperature, the draw of instruments, an communication equipment lad well as unforseen weather. To me I don’t think I would want to fly one all electric, I feel the same way about electric cars an trucks, people that have these electric pickups an have tried to tow a trailer ( empty or loaded ) have found out that even being able to tow the range drops significantly an chargers are hard to find an takes a long time to charge them back up if you can find a working charger or one that produced enough wattage to charge the batteries. Electric may provide you with horsepower an instant torque but not the range as of a gas or diesel engine can. Plus their very expensive right now an some have a tendency to catch fire for some reason an the fire burns hotter an is harder to put out than gas or diesel fuel. Maybe in time they can overcome those problems though at my age I may not live to see it. I do wish them luck on their project an that they can get it working.
@denniscummings5219
@denniscummings5219 Год назад
Thalass, gasoline engine plus generator plus fuel added to the already existing batteries and motors would make it so heavy it would get off the ground.
@illuminatedperspectives2894
25 MINUTES OF FLIGHT TIME? YOU MAY AS WELL GO BACK TO GAS ENGINES. THIS ISNT PROGRESS THIS IS GOING BACKWARDS LOL
@daapdary
@daapdary Год назад
Very cool, love the green color. Based on the rotor blade's shape (like an airplane wing) at 10:45, I'm guessing it rotates counter-clockwise?
@fourgivedyakopu6840
@fourgivedyakopu6840 6 месяцев назад
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@tvittetoe
@tvittetoe Год назад
Love it! I am an aerospace/software engineer/small business owner. I worked for Tesla for 5 years 🤔
@RCGache
@RCGache Год назад
Yes, EAC, would love to know more about the future APU (gas motor providing power for an electric motor) option works. Especially would love to know the trade-offs on this type of configuration vs just using battery power plant. In general, would love for you to explore why this type of configuration (APU) works for cars, but why it (seems) to not work in electric aircraft. Thanks for your channel.
@JamesAskewDVM
@JamesAskewDVM Год назад
I’m currently trying to design a hovercraft system that uses a small gas generator to run two electric motors for flying. This should offer more range and less noise.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Год назад
Why so complicated?
@JamesAskewDVM
@JamesAskewDVM Год назад
Electric motors are light enough to carry a spare as well gas generators. Until battery tech is capable of better power we can get farther on less gas.
@HamptonsStreetDoc
@HamptonsStreetDoc Год назад
I live on the north fork of Long Island, (NY), work on the south fork, and driving takes 45-55mins, with one of these it’d take me less than 10 mins. Take my money!! 25 mins is more than enough to get me to work and normally work 24hr shifts so I could charge during the shift.
@Threee_Eyez
@Threee_Eyez Год назад
Besides what it takes to get the cobalt to build the batteries for things like this, I love it.
@evmotorsports
@evmotorsports Год назад
Yes ,any additional info on this build would be awesome . Type and brand of vcu or control unit ,type and brand of bms and details of batteries . Price point of items for conversion would be nice to for others pondering doing their own . Trying to share the info needed to keep the experimentals going! Thamks
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Год назад
They don't want to say (for legal reasons), but the battery modules appear to be LG Chem 16S 1P as built for the Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid van; they were available from many suppliers for a while. It shouldn't need a VCU.
@evmotorsports
@evmotorsports Год назад
@@brianb-p6586 Thanks
@msrandihawk
@msrandihawk Год назад
Bryan, this is a big step for C-FX. Like he said, the batteries just aren't there yet. They definitely have an interesting concept for sure. Me personally, nothing beats a turbine chopper!
@lancedooley7558
@lancedooley7558 Год назад
They will never get there. Im in commercial aviation. Its funny idiot engineers trying but wasting money.
@lp712
@lp712 Год назад
@@lancedooley7558 Ummmmmm yes… they definitely will … wtf are you talking about??Deal with it buddy
@lancedooley7558
@lancedooley7558 Год назад
@@lp712 will never happen. Energy density of fuel is 33x of a junk battery. It will never supercede that and it will never beat law of thermodynamics. Just like this rhetoric of climate change delusion by leftist elitist.
@arturoreyes5431
@arturoreyes5431 Год назад
Que trabajo tan bueno.....mis Respetos para ese ingeniero lindo trabajo... 💖✊👍
@kareemmansour6726
@kareemmansour6726 Год назад
Fantastic and I'm proud of you indeed 😀
@cherylm2C6671
@cherylm2C6671 Год назад
I had no idea it could get this small. That engine is practically sitting in air conditioning. Thank you for your build!
@jamesbizs
@jamesbizs Год назад
Motor
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers Год назад
@@jamesbizs its the battery pack
@missingMBR
@missingMBR Год назад
@@jamesbizs an engine is a motor and vice versa. The basic definition of engine is a machine with moving parts that converts power into motion.
@jimmym2719
@jimmym2719 Год назад
Like the sound👍. Only the flight time is too far from the gas version. I like the mosquitoes design👍. Keep up the good work
@SyAt
@SyAt Год назад
Nice to see it make it in the global market and see the feed back...
@ibiufos
@ibiufos Год назад
It's Great to see companies going electric. I think that a lot of the direction should be put towards the charging as that's the problem with electric systems there should be more work pushed towards charging while running. I know it will take time and it will get there. With more and more companies going in that direction shouldn't be too far away. Much love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺 and fly safe.
@faustinpippin9208
@faustinpippin9208 Год назад
charging while running? you want to fly with a extention cord? lol or you meant charging a different set of batteries while you fly. And the main problem is weight in aircrafts, 25min in hoover is pretty meh....and using up all the rare resources for batteries and all the pollution when making them is also pretty bad
@limamikeaviation6200
@limamikeaviation6200 Год назад
It doesn't make sense to have a single seater electric helicopter, just buy a regolar petrol one.
@europaeuropa3673
@europaeuropa3673 Год назад
@@faustinpippin9208 10 hours of charging for a 25 minutes flight. That's not on my bucket list. With all the vibration I would be concerned about those batteries short circuiting, we all know how LiPo behave when on fire.
@wesmahon123
@wesmahon123 Год назад
Funny thing about EVs. The more powerful the battery, the heavier it weighs . Not what you want in an aircraft. EVs are not the answer. Very impractical, environmentally unfriendly.
@3210hej
@3210hej Год назад
@@europaeuropa3673 that is dependant on the charger, i guess they dont have the need to charge faster so they did not buy the faster charger(which is just a case of buying a larger/more powerful one), the biggest concern is the power lines running to the charger, if you try to refuel anything else thru a long straw it takes a long time also.
@df3yt
@df3yt Год назад
Love this 10:00 - You should do a brief talk while hovering as often the mic "gains" down if the overall noise is high meaning it will sound quieter than it really is.
@glory122
@glory122 Год назад
Matthew here. It's pretty darn silent at flat pitch, dead silent up until about 1000rpm. However the moment you pull pitch it definitely gets louder. It's a lot quieter than our piston or turbine options, but not silent. One of the interesting things we found was how loud the tail rotor is, especially when rotating, you can hear it chopping through the air.
@dacat8171
@dacat8171 6 месяцев назад
Looking great.
@user-oh6go8lp4m
@user-oh6go8lp4m 7 месяцев назад
Very interesting short.thanks 😊
@michaelvadney5803
@michaelvadney5803 Год назад
I would also think that when solid state batteries show up projects like this will really take off.
@karezaalonso7110
@karezaalonso7110 Год назад
I see what you did there
@jimj2683
@jimj2683 Год назад
Not really. Solid state will only double the flight time. So it goes from 20 to 40 minutes hover time. But then you have to factor in some margins and you are left with maybe 30 minutes or less depending on usage. That is still useless. A gas helicopter can fly for several hours. Hydrogen fuel cells will be somewhere in between.
@michaelvadney5803
@michaelvadney5803 Год назад
Solid state is much safer and lighter. An Aeros ANT can fly under power for more than an hour. If it had solid state then it would be even more fun
@Moosetick2002
@Moosetick2002 Год назад
@@jimj2683 30 minutes may be fine for many uses. That could move someone 30+ miles. Rarely do helicopters travel for hours on end from point to point.
@berloma
@berloma Год назад
Great to see an electric helicopter, even that it is a prototype it is a good start. Very quiet and easy to fly as far as I can see. With future improvements on battery density this will be viable. Another idea is to use a Hydrogen fuel cell. That will give a bit longer fly time.
@arielsantos8899
@arielsantos8899 Год назад
Very interesting the development of this work ....,is an inspiration
@mmeettwwoo
@mmeettwwoo 3 месяца назад
Suggestions (they might be stupid ,but,hey..even so ) : Double the battery cells. Use long tail for battery cell holding.(hollow isnt it? ) Might help weight distribution. Dont use belt on rotor, go proper eu axial.
@stephen1Oace
@stephen1Oace Год назад
Cool. (Long way to go for flying over a couple of hours)
@ExperimentalAircraftChannel
Yes. Agreed 100%. But you must first START before you can ever get to the finish line. Good to see companies investing in new tech if nothing else just to "play" with ideas. Thanks for watching today!
@generalvoltage1821
@generalvoltage1821 Год назад
Yes! Please do a follow up with these guys as they continue to develop. 25 mins in the hover is one thing but do they have numbers for actual point to point which is a bit more efficient. Even 25 mins isn't so bad as a point to point hopper if that suits your mission. Half hour charging is fine because you would never fully drain the battery anyway.
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers Год назад
I doubt it gets 5 minutes with a pilot. they even had to edit the seconds long flight and then show a jet powered one. electric airplanes can barely get 20 minutes.
@thecloneguyz
@thecloneguyz Год назад
How do you auto rotate in an emergency with something that has an electric motor with no clutches to disengage the motor from the blades?
@frankyflowers
@frankyflowers Год назад
@@thecloneguyz it looks like the motor powers a belt from the motor to the rotor.
@generalvoltage1821
@generalvoltage1821 Год назад
@@thecloneguyz The drive system is the same arrangement as they use with a piston engine. the belt drive. An electric motor has very low spinning mass and no compression so it may not even be needed to disengage the motor. Or the belt drive has an auto clutch that lets the rotor spin when the motor stops providing power.
@generalvoltage1821
@generalvoltage1821 Год назад
@@frankyflowers The KW draw in the hover and battery capacity seems about right for 20-25 in hover. I assume that's ground effect hover though. They look like Nissan Leaf batteries. Other electric converted helicopters (there is/was a R22 testbed) also got around 20 minutes. They did mention that this is in very early flight test stage so I wouldn't expect them to go far just yet. The Pipistrel Electro 2 seat fixed wing trainer gets one hour flight time plus reserves.
@JamesLewis-mp9zn
@JamesLewis-mp9zn Год назад
Would like to stay current of your progress. Very interested and an awesome job.
@BudFranks-fu9ye
@BudFranks-fu9ye 10 месяцев назад
Awesome. Love helicopter stuff👍
@fenflyer
@fenflyer Год назад
Nice job 👍 I would be tempted to fit a standard 12kwh underslung battery pack from a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV to keep the centre of gravity as low as possible 🙄 Underslung battery pack probably would help with over the shoulder blind spots from your vertical battery configuration 🤔 But your machine overall is looking 😎👍 I want one 🤠
@fenflyer
@fenflyer 9 месяцев назад
@@lurch789 when in EV only mode my Mitsi PHEV will travel @ 85mph for 20-30 miles on electric ... they don't catch fire 💪
@T_Fantico
@T_Fantico Год назад
Cool in concept. Maybe someday we'll overcome that whole energy density thing.
@limamikeaviation6200
@limamikeaviation6200 Год назад
It doesn't make sense, just buy a Cabri or R22 and you got a better helicopter today, not in 10 years.
@Rockingruvin
@Rockingruvin Год назад
Much better batteries are on the horizon.
@caseysingletary9260
@caseysingletary9260 Год назад
LOL yeah, you know, just buy a $300,000-$400,000 helicopter instead, because you know, the average person just has that laying around 🤣
@limamikeaviation6200
@limamikeaviation6200 Год назад
@@caseysingletary9260 It won't cost less than a piston engine helicopter, it just can't because of the scale economy. Want proof of this claim? Just think about the Pipistrel, the electric version cost more the the piston one. Not the other way around.
@caseysingletary9260
@caseysingletary9260 Год назад
@@limamikeaviation6200 if this kit ever does make it to market, it will not cost nearly as much as a cabri or R22. End of discussion. Toss all the words out you want, that will always be a fact.
@floydb9100
@floydb9100 9 месяцев назад
Incredible !
@SkipSpotter
@SkipSpotter Год назад
These guys will obviously manage to accomplish decent flying time using batteries very soon. I was wondering if it will be possible to create versions with turbo and other options that liquid fueled versions have? Do the military have battery testing going on at the moment? The military have silent mode on some liquid fueled copters, so with the advent of battery copters, stealth mode should be easier to create?
@galihpa
@galihpa 10 месяцев назад
8:50 I'm impressed that the cameraman isn't afraid of getting chopped up by those blades considering it's still a prototype, anything can happen
@nelsonjames4102
@nelsonjames4102 Год назад
These things are perfect for pilot training ☺️
@scottmclaughlin5674
@scottmclaughlin5674 Год назад
Yeah, if the school charges by the quarter hour...
@mrpumperknuckles1631
@mrpumperknuckles1631 Год назад
No it’s not good practice… they have simulator cockpits for a reason… a lot of people won’t die this way.
@pasutriviral8844
@pasutriviral8844 Год назад
amazing guys
@khmer6394
@khmer6394 Год назад
Amazing !!
@professorclown
@professorclown Год назад
Great channel, and great aircraft, too! Could you please break down/list the major components used in this mosquito helo, as some of the parts may be invaluable for people trying to create their own 'contraptions'?
@Gavs_rc_hobbies
@Gavs_rc_hobbies Год назад
It sounds just like some of my radio control helicopters. All you hear is the rotor noise.
@I_AM_ALL_THAT_WAS
@I_AM_ALL_THAT_WAS Год назад
Of coarse we want to see a follow up video on the all electric. Bring them on. I want more flight test content. Higher altitude please.
@gideonram4607
@gideonram4607 10 месяцев назад
Beautiful! Goof job guys!
@David-dv6yv
@David-dv6yv Год назад
I think it’s a fine job well done !
@bgdexter
@bgdexter Год назад
With a SEVCON Gen4 and an LG battery, this is clearly a flying Twizy … even the lacking doors are there ^_^
@Rhaug1111
@Rhaug1111 Год назад
DEFINTELY want to see more follow up on this episode. Any guesses at public release estimates and pricing estimates would be great. Also, with the added weight of either all the batteries or a hybrid style, additional engine/generator, would this aircraft still qualify as an Ultralight according to FAA regulations? The weight was not addressed in this episode.
@irvinewayne4086
@irvinewayne4086 7 месяцев назад
I suggest you and the video creator not wasting time on battery-powered heli: it is DOA just from the energy density alone. Don't wanna agree with me? The battery can improve with time? There is a limit from a chemical-thermodynamics alone- pretty much like the second law of thermodynamics ruled out any perpetual motion machine.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 5 месяцев назад
@@irvinewayne4086 Not the same thing but i've seen powertool batteries like the m18 Milwaukee go from 2ah 300-400 charge cycles with a 400watt output to 6ah with the same sized and weight and 3000 charge cycles and 1800watt output. There is also improvements to the inverter efficiency and weight too to be had. I remember going to job sites in the late 90s and it being a spaghetti mess of cords cause the battery powertools just weren't up to the task. Today only the air compressor and shop vac seem to be the only corded tools that are common anymore. That is only cause of increasing battery power/energy density. Idk if it will ever improve enough for a transatlantic flight but there is still much room for improvement
@RodrigoSantos-ve7op
@RodrigoSantos-ve7op 2 месяца назад
Amazing work guys!!! As an aircraft mechanic I get a little worried about not being able to measure battery temperature , or to control it yet, which would bring some concerns about a safe flight.
@ibnubhaktiwchannel
@ibnubhaktiwchannel Год назад
Experimen yang sangat inovatif, dibutuhkan teknologi, skill, keberanian dan biaya,..sangat mengagumkan 👍👍
@Instantpower332
@Instantpower332 Год назад
Very cool folks. Small company’s thinking out of the box. I look forward to seeing what’s next..
@nasirsneed2959
@nasirsneed2959 Год назад
@roadstercycle that's helpful info I learned something today thanks
@tonsjet09
@tonsjet09 Год назад
very genius and extraordinary, I really salute
@TeamYankee2
@TeamYankee2 Год назад
Very cool.. you could also use regenerative braking to slow the rotor when shutting down.
@techworld8961
@techworld8961 Год назад
Are you planning to add any redundancies for the motor and the controller (in case of failure)?
@ibnushabil
@ibnushabil Год назад
amazing work.
@carloseduardomenendezm.2389
beautiful!!!!
@georgiogorge
@georgiogorge Год назад
I'd like to know whether they think a separate motor for the tail rotor would be a good idea, particularly if they were clean-sheet designing an electric-only model. How much room for optimization do they think electric motors could allow, if they completely drop provisioning for a traditional drive-train?
@glory122
@glory122 Год назад
Matt here. It's an idea we have discussed. We would be able to cut out some of the losses associated with the splitter gearbox for the tail/main rotor, the driveshaft, and tail gearbox. Main thing holding us back is that this would need it's own motor controller, some sort of redundant battery, and rotary encoders for the pedals. You really really don't want to lose tail rotor authority in a helicopter, so it would need a lot of testing. Currently we are testing the electric power-plant before we start thinking about any changes to our drive-line, which is well proven.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Год назад
Those tiny model helicopters always have a large gear covering the whole underside of the cabin. I figured that this is the lowest friction solution to get some torque onto the shaft. Hidden from the downwash. Does not obstruct the view. Redundant motors: one in the front, one in the back.
@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo 11 месяцев назад
Maybe needs another 15 to 20 years of battery development to be a viable option
@LegendLength
@LegendLength 10 месяцев назад
They just need to build a hybrid. Slap a small gasoline generator on there and you can use a tiny battery then.
@BoondocTravels
@BoondocTravels 10 месяцев назад
Maybe two years
@browntrousersmoment
@browntrousersmoment 10 месяцев назад
It's interesting how smart phone is progressing...
@peachy3143
@peachy3143 10 месяцев назад
Fifty years development wouldn’t get me in it
@aleroscoychiquita
@aleroscoychiquita 9 месяцев назад
@@LegendLength no hybrids bad for enviroment
@joncollier1934
@joncollier1934 9 месяцев назад
I would absolutely enjoy a kit for this!!! You build everything else and just leave the battery to me!
@solexxx8588
@solexxx8588 Год назад
Nice!
@Friedbrain11
@Friedbrain11 Год назад
I built my own batteri\y packs and they worked just fine. I am not an "engineer" but making battery packs and wiring them correctly with the BMS and other requirements is not difficult nor does it require an engineer.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Год назад
"nor does it require an engineer" but it helps if you know what you are doing.
@GabrielDeVault
@GabrielDeVault Год назад
This is a terrible attitude. Battery powered aircraft are no joke. A fiery death like the Siemens tragedy is the worst way to go. Please don't trivialize the risks.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Год назад
You can make your own packs, but they won't be any more energy-dense than the properly designed modules that they are using, so there's no point.
@Anautistictherapist
@Anautistictherapist Год назад
Be sure and tell that to John Denver when you see him.
@10OZDuster
@10OZDuster Год назад
for a full size flying helicopter ? show us a video
@SirTools
@SirTools Год назад
Weight seems to be the issue over all else. Would love to see a follow up :)
@lancedooley7558
@lancedooley7558 Год назад
Always will be. Lol
@darksu6947
@darksu6947 Год назад
No fat chicks!
@wrayday7149
@wrayday7149 Год назад
Nothing else comes to mind? You know, with the guys head being higher than the rotors. Nothing else strikes you as a concern?
@Rose.Of.Hizaki
@Rose.Of.Hizaki Год назад
range is also an issue. 25mins is like a trip down the shops for a pint of milk and back.
@lancedooley7558
@lancedooley7558 Год назад
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki 25 minutes is a joke. Thats just hovering let alone going 60mph. 😂😂 This forced green scam is nothing but a scam for carbon credits to avoid taxes.
@aristeulima1977
@aristeulima1977 Год назад
fantastic congratulations
@bahia1972
@bahia1972 3 месяца назад
Great job, 👍
@lalehbryanskrenes5692
@lalehbryanskrenes5692 10 месяцев назад
This is so great! Glad people are working on electrifying things. They should use battery regeneration as a rotor break.
@mydude3254
@mydude3254 Год назад
What do you think (when using custom shaped batteries) would be your company's dream energy density per kilo? Or should I say, what would be a minimum viable energy density for your battery packs to make the heli an attractive option to buyers? Very interesting video guys, very impressive.
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 Год назад
10x more dense than today... for small helicopter that now uses internal combustion engine. for gas turbine ones... 15-20x more energy dense.
@ranaranita2576
@ranaranita2576 Год назад
This is really good to see, is wonderfull
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