Most Archers Aim Too Much | Stop Aiming your Bow!

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When coaching a common thing that has been coming up, the question of how much to aim or how hard to aim your bow. The sight picture on a bow is not as important to performance as it may seem and aiming only gets you in trouble.
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00:00-1:17 Intro
1:17-2:51 Stop Aiming so Hard
2:51-4:45 How Hard Should You Aim
4:45-5:46 Aiming = Stress
5:46-8:20 Summary
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@NicholasANappiNick Год назад

When I stopped aiming my groups improved by so much

@mxz_archery Год назад

This is EXACTLY why I try to encourage new archers to start off with open rings instead of sight pins. I've found it really helps reduce the urge to over-aim :)

@BEARMC27 10 месяцев назад

One day I forgot to bring my glasses to range for practice. Thinking to myself, I can't see the target clearly anyways, why not just aim roughly to the target and release. Then I broke my PB......

@PinkiesBrain 10 дней назад

He can give his background target to me- it is like a new one for my skills...

@stevesoutdoorworld4340 Год назад

Great info thanks for sharing!

@BasSchn Год назад

Thank you, Jake!

@marcinkusnierz9266 Год назад

Thanks for this tip.

@jimcoombe1564 Год назад

This is an excellent video. Thanks Jake

@uncleremus5046 Год назад

I set my aim & it’s just another step in my sequence. Once it’s done it’s done.The key is you don’t jump back & forth between the aim & your shot process. Never let your pin or Aim be a reason to shoot it’s only one part of the process.Set your Aim & move on to complete focus on executing a perfectly controlled shot! Just a side note this was also taught years ago by the great Terry Wunderle who I advise checking out his coaching. Brilliant Archer & Coach!

@mrrcassidy 11 месяцев назад

Over the last few weeks my practice arrows have been consistently more accurate than those I shot when scoring. Over-aiming and over-thinking. Took this lesson on board, went out last night and improved my previous best score over 50/40 yards by 20% - shooting was more relaxed and way more enjoyable. Thank you.

@dick-gs9tb Год назад

lmao jake is quickly becoming the jeff cavaliere of archery, "aiming is KILLING your GAINS"

@timbaland952 Год назад

😂😂😂

@Barx1963 Год назад

Awesome!! I can remember when I came back to shooting a few years back, standing on the line and out loud telling myself to "stop aiming", which was something I used to do years ago to reinforce a relaxed sight picture. The bloke I was shooting with almost had a heart attack when he heard me. I am now using a open ring which is about 12mm wide and am shooting the best groups I have ever shot just letting it float. I sometimes refer to the action as "aiming with my clicker", maintaining the expansion so the bow is being pushed and pulled to the 10 rather than trying to get perfect aim.

@nathanlester5054 Год назад

Absolutely great information on the aiming process! I would add that a forgiving bow setup will help or compliment this shot process.

@jimmiferfreddette8583 Год назад

Great video! Fortunately I instinctively do this. I recognized this many years ago and it feels so much better to relax and put the attention and energy into form and other variables.

@lordcarnorjax8599 Год назад

Looking forward to the more detailed stabiliser setup video. I recently upgraded my stabilisers and while I have played a bit with their setup would always be good to get some of your wonderful insight.

@Traditionalarchery007 Год назад

Thank you, I will try it today while practicing

@ridzuanabdulkadir6965 Год назад

thank you mr. Jake.. i ll try this

@Velolab Год назад

This video is timely as I've been trying to work on aim and becoming more accurate with my shots. I recently listened to a podcast where Joel Turner was explaining aim/float. Thanks for going a bit deeper with this Jake. It's very helpful.

@jamesstrength5405 Год назад

All of this is so true.

@honzan_dot_ca Год назад

Jake, among all videos you made so far, for me this is the most important video - Mindblower!!! There are so many keys behind what you just said that even with a huge gap I had in archery, I can definitely understand the concept and improve my mindset. Yes, for me archery is not predominant by physical form, it's 95% mind control & only 5% shape form. Thanks for that. Cheers!

@potshot23 Год назад

Nice video! I had these problems in 1982, so I bought Al Hendersons book, Understanding Winning Archery, which changed my abilities tenfold. I was shooting freestyle limited AA compound fingers, he said the same thing you say, let the pin bounce around the ten ring while concentrating on the X ring. Sure was a game changer for me. Thanks for all the videos and advice to my 75 year old brain..

@gihanilangakoon 4 месяца назад

It makes sense...Will try

@williameddy7217 Год назад

Super cool video,,, it's going to help

@nageshkola2327 11 месяцев назад

thank you so much for ❤

@jwjenkins421 Год назад

I love Joel turners stuff, and case in point his son is doing great. In your video about trad archery you were talking about just shooting and having fun which is great, which I agree with, but I feel like a lot of trad/Primitive guys could use more precision through things like what Joel Turner and Tom Clum Sr. teach.

@kevinbrown5321 Год назад

When I first started shooting I discovered I was a natural instinctive snap shooter. Even with very little experience I could pretty much destroy the gold in a few sessions. After watching Utube I realised I was doing it all wrong and set about changing everything to be more like everyone else After a year I'm still not as accurate as I was and after watching this I'm going back to how I started

@alantolinez Год назад

Great information Jake! What about short distances? Should I focus more on my technique that on aiming? Thank you!

@dustydustydusty Год назад

For me longer aim time usually means my shot process went wrong. Trying to aim perfect to compensate when I should let down. So yes. I still do it wrong occasionally but not always.

@peterxyz3541 Год назад

Zen “no mind” approach

@anthonyforfare7223 Год назад

Just like Byron Ferguson said be the arrow.😮👍🏹🎯

@johngilbert974 Год назад

Awesome tip - thanks for bringing Joel’s insight to your viewers attention !!! Ps: Id love more tips for barebow. Not string walking. Instinctive. It’s not instinctive for me….

@carlray4809 Год назад

IT GOT WORSE FOR ME TOO BRO. THANKS MUCH !

@gonzatuerca Год назад

great video

@digitaldogs233 11 месяцев назад

Thanks

@parentalguidancerecommended251 Год назад

I'd love a longer video on this if possible, with you shooting showing the impact points of both to showcase the difference on target. Its an issue I have once I'm about to release, I focus too much on Aiming which is due to my perfection complex always chasing that perfect X shot. Even though the best I ever shot was when I was going through my shot process focused on form rather than the target. FYI I'm a para archer from a wheelchair aiming to compete in the 2032 paragames in Brisbane Australia. Cheers, mate.

@parentalguidancerecommended251 Год назад

Also if you could do some para archery stuff one day thatd be cool too.

@cftuhr7337rirjxx9 Год назад

Fighting my archery friend

@sev548 Год назад

Not sure if it’s similar, but when I’m on good form (where I can activate the right muscle most of the shots) my shots group really well. But when I’m not in shape or haven’t shoot for weeks, unconsciously I notice I put slightly more focus in aiming and not activating the right muscle and there goes my grouping.

@timrichmond5226 11 месяцев назад

Shooting a bow is like throwing a ball, you don't aim when throwing a ball, neither should you when shooting a bow. Use the sight to confirm only.

@KentRodgman Год назад

I just finished watching the Joel Turner episode of JRE and this is the first video that pops up when I go to youtube... Google knows too much. Definitely seen improvements talking myself through it. Like Joel says, it's simple... but not easy

@JakeKaminskiArchery Год назад

Crazy timing on this video. Had no idea Joel was about to drop into the JRE

@jota15888 Год назад

It's sometimes just interesting how both the body and brain work... Nice video for breakfast by the way.... It's always a good time to refresh the basics. Thanks Jake!💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻 I wanted to take the opportunity to ask, regarding your supplements video: Besides drinking your protein powder right after your training sessions, do you also consider to drink your protein powder and collagen during your rest days, no matter if you're doing nothing in such days? Greetings and thanks again.

@yadbigger Год назад

Jake, it has truly changed my perception of aiming and I feel relieved like 3 times more. One quick question, we normally witness archers shoot the very instant the clicker clicks, Boom. How can I connect the idea of this video with the other video you created about clicker? May be clicker clicks earlier but I havent yet spotted the 10 ring. Should I wait or what?

@pickin4you Год назад

I have shot indoor 300’s for decades. My cousin and I learned about 40 years ago, to stare at the X and pull. We use back tension releases the way they were intended. It’s not easy. It would seem sometimes when my release went off, that I seemed to be on the outer part of the white, but my Arrow would end up in the X ring. The same Thing with a recurve. Stare at the middle holding where you can. Let it float and pull until the clicker goes, then release. I have not had a Single bit of target panic since I used a back tension decades ago. Now I can pick up any release with a trigger, and even when someone watches me, they cannot see me set it off. I squeeze soooo slooow so it surprises me. It has to surprise you are you are not doing it right. Compound or recurve and yes I have shot recurve just to show the men o shot against could see I could outshoot them. They didn’t get it. I knew the tricks just from shooting compound and learning on my way to the top on the state. My cousin even won the state indoor twice.

@BucksBeesS.C. Год назад

Thanks for that info

@janickgonzalez3054 Год назад

Hey Jake, could you please make a Review on the Win&Win Winex 2021 25' inch riser.

@billcharlene1450 Год назад

I've noticed a big difference in shooting a typical scoring ring foam target, and stump shooting. I feel 0 pressure to hit a small leaf or stump at 30 yards, and can nail it without much thought...but shooting a target ring...it might as well be 100 yards. Like you say, I'm over thinking/aiming, and I'm aware of what I'm doing but keep doing it🤦

@starscream003 Год назад

I would like to know how breathing affects your shooting, like releasing on an inhale or exhale, and how long is to long to hold a breath while aiming?

@unlawfulfalafel7634 Год назад

I shot way better groupings when gap-shooting on a trad bow than I do with sights, stabilizers, peep sight, etc. on a compound, it really feels like a different sport entirely.

@duncanriding3030 Год назад

Excellent Coaching

@georgehaydukeiii6396 Год назад

I've noticed this phenomenon many times. This is really good advice, especially as it applies to a gap shooter looking at their arrow point.

@laurentmeiller5171 10 месяцев назад

hi, from draw to release, it takes 4 seconds to me from 18 to 50 meters it's the same, i watch a coloured zone, the heigth and ziiiiiiiiiip !! thank you for your advices !

@GG1097 Год назад

I ask students to hold an arrow out, nock end up, and observe the ten ring between the ears of the nock while focusing on the ten ring. Take a moment to observe how much movement you perceive, then change your focus to the nock itself and see how much it's actually moving. IT'S BARELY MOVING AT ALL! Let go of that worry and keep moving through your shot cycle. It's great when the switch goes on and you learn that leaving the 'aim at center' up to your subconscious is not just less stressful, but WAY better than "Trying" to aim. "Aim small, miss small" was a good movie quote. "Aim small, miss big" is reality. Guy

@janickgonzalez3054 Год назад

Aiming to much causes target panic and target panic causes scores to drop.

@robgruhl3439 Год назад

To make this point, my coach flipped the target over and said “let’s just focus on form for a minute, put it anywhere on the paper”. Afterwards he flipped it over and I’d scored my highest ever, something like 8 or 10 arrows. 😊

@hasensaurus Год назад

I sometimes shoot a target at 25-30m in the dark, barely seeing its shape. A correct posture makes me shoot better than in full daylight.

@rodphillips4333 Год назад

HIi Jake can I add to this aiming discussion please Im having a horrid time trying shoot both eyes open any advice? my arrows go about 8 inches left from shooting with my dominant eye only

@pequodexpress Год назад

My 11-year-old son just started experimenting with using a recurve sight. I wanted him just to play around with getting used to using the sight pin as a reference point, seeing where the arrows fly, making lateral and vertical adjustments to the sight. His coach came over and tried to get my son immediately to change a variety of mechanics for use with the sight. I just wanted my son to do whatever he was doing before, but to experiment on his own with using the sight and playing around with sight adjustments. The coach, who is not necessarily an accomplished archer but more of a physical education coach, and I got into a brief argument over this. Is there a need to dramatically reconfigure head position and anchor point when transitioning to shooting with a sight?

@MikeJones-vb1me Год назад

Just watched Joel on Joe Rogan talking about how little to focus on aim. Dudley talks about this too, “trust the float”. It’s the most difficult part of archery for me.

@JakeKaminskiArchery Год назад

For sure. It’s challenging and when you get it, it’s what you chase with the next arrow. That feeling of being free of the aim is where it’s at.

@MikeJones-vb1me Год назад

@@JakeKaminskiArchery thank you for enforcing this concept, and for all the videos that have helped me figure out my bare bow! 🤘

@richredd2006 Год назад

Float is the magic word... Someone gave me advice about two years ago... He said that he just lets the arrow tip Float out there and when it feels right release... My accuracy has gotten much tighter when I do this...

@ImperiousArchery Год назад

Jake - did you do Joel’s class or in person or going off videos on youtube? Just wondering

@billmorris8358 11 месяцев назад

I don’t use bow sights! I was always more concerned about the alignment between ends. The stress of getting the sight setup right distracted me from actually shooting. So l shoot bare bow. So do the same rules apply? Aim less, and shoot by (as it were) feel?

@synicktdorji4190 Год назад

How do you align the bow string and the arrow ???

@rctrix9063 Год назад

I discovered as a child that I could shoot a 22 off the hip as I could through the sights. I still don't understand why.

@emptycl0ud9 Год назад

What can I do when I aim and my eyes just try to over focus to my dominant eye? I shoot right handed but my dominant eye is the left, I've shot for years by just closing the left but realized it makes my shooting too stiff. Now that I've tried shooting with both eyes open, my shooting has been progressively better form wise but with respect with having a clear target picture it's just everywhere. I see double target(looks like using binoculars that's not focused in the one eye), and string alignment just isn't correct with my string already aligned to the outside of the riser(with the movement of the sun makes it worse for aligning). Maybe not related to this but not sure if you have more videos with my problem

@Rachturne Год назад

I stopped going to work and now I'm rich! Thanks Jake!

@tttrickyyy6864 Год назад

Hi Jake, Do you and Heather regularly shoot at a local club? What distances and competitions do you go in?

@RainbowArcher252 Год назад

Hi Jake, Could you do a video on seeing a sight pin that is very blurry. I have struggled with this since the beginning of starting archery. I'm almost certain my problem is that my eye dominance is very balanced such as 45% left, 55% right (I'm a right-handed archer). Maybe your video could include details around squinting with the less dominant eye, the best sight pins to solve an archer's specific problems, etc. I recently shot a frostbite and the angle of the sun made my sight pin much clearer and I broke the county record. Given that success I had, I really need to confront this issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for all your hard work.

@RainbowArcher252 Год назад

By the way, I have watched your video on sight pins but you don't cover the issue of having a sight pin that is too blurry, which is likely caused by my rather balanced eye dominance. P.s. I don't wear or need glasses.

@rinkerd3575 Год назад

I have a question and was wondering wether you could maybe make a video about it? My clubmembers told me that my drawing elbow should be lower to engage my back more (it was pointing pretty high) but what i struggle with is getting my anchor with a lower elbow. I dont know if its just my jaw shape or am i doing something wrong?

@JakeKaminskiArchery Год назад

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@mrnobody1550 Год назад

Hi jake, i've been wondering why do you kept using AAE compound vanes instead of spin wings or spider vanes like other recurve archers do?

@JakeKaminskiArchery Год назад

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@hasensaurus Год назад

Thank you for this video, it's great. I believe that an archer's strength lies in flexibility of mind and muscle memory. No bow is like another, no two distances where you can shoot the same. That's why I encourage beginners to try everything but always own and periodically go back to shooting a simple bow, no shelf, no gadgets, no weights. When aiming, if I go over 3 seconds in full draw I already feel it wrong so I put the bow down and start again because I know it will be a bad release. But if it will be a good shot, I can already feel it in my posture before the full draw. Horse bows, longbows & selfbows, all bows without shelf are great for learning how to aim without aiming. All I do is get into a correct posture, correct anchor, then I adjust my bow hand relative to the target(love the geometry of aiming) and release. Also when it comes to aiming ( just as everything else in archery) I stand by my motto: the more you put into the bow, the more you take from the archer. Trust yourself and your posture, be commited to the target but relaxed, be ready to challenge in a second everything you know and start over.

@tonyclark6297 Год назад

In other words, "Use the Force!"

@crossvadar249 Год назад

It's something the young people never get it. The way they engrained hard is to push themselves focus at aiming but not the whole picture of the shot.

@ARTCHILD Год назад

DONT THINK…FEEL…

@msrvfx Год назад

Jake, the way a lot of thousands of years of Asiatic military archer training does not use an anchor. Why? Because it tends to do what you are describing. The concept behind most Asiatic military archery is like “drawing/pulling” a rubber band. When you stretch a rubber band it is always a straight line. If your “form” of stance and the draw are consistent you release “during the draw”. Do not stop, pause, or collapse the draw. No traditional draw. This becomes like learning to throw a rock. You’re developing repeatable accurate form. The only indicator of when to release is when you have drawn so much that you feel the arrow tip touch your bow hand index finger. This is traditionally done shooting “shelfless” Asiatic or longbows. There are any examples of skilled archers using this training and method.