Most Christians Get This WRONG About the Serpent 

Not to worry No one stands before the Lord without ever having to say I didn't know and if it were true God would judge them fairly, the church has conditioned the christian to think their salvation is our job it is not, our job is to share the gospel but salavtion can come just like the theif on the cross, remember me when you enter into your kingdom Lord

@@truthgiver8286 You should keep your comments to yourself.

@@truthgiver8286 oh yeah? What do you believe in?

@@markgupton1313 Lol this sounds great coming from someone who doesn't take their own advice.

@@mikeman1866 isn't it obvious. The truth of course.

Exactly, I was going to post the same thing. There is certainly Biblical context for Satan (the Adversary) being described as "The Old Serpent". Why would that be if not from the Genesis account?

Thank you! Literally saying this in my thoughts

@@velkyn1 what Bible verse is that? Must be “I” segesis

@@velkyn1 The only way to defeat evil is to deal with it, and to let it run its course, and run out of steam.

Trying to use a highly symbolic book and the last book of the Bible to prover something?

yes but are there any genes for a language center?

Seraphim are winged serpents of fire in Isaiah. If Satan is the serpent, he had wings.

We have many “serpents“ walking on two legs

Most can be seen in Washington D.C.

A dinosaur is a reptile just as a snake and Many of them walked upright, from very Tiny ones to Great Big ones!

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I have encountered more than one civil serpent in my lifetime

Those are well thought out ideas-and ones that I’d never considered!

That may be reading into the text and doesn’t really matter in light of the fact that God said don’t eat it. It was the fact God said don’t. His sun was desiring to be like God in that he’d “know good and evil.” Satan deceived him in that he said he surely wouldn’t die. Adam didn’t know this was a spiritual death. All in all, it was the act of disobedience. Not so much what kind of fruit it was.

Your perspective is interesting. My thoughts were on the statement "...be like God, to know good and evil". The tree is known as the tree of the knowledge (of good and evil). What is the "fruit of knowledge"? CHOICE! Choice is the fruit. God gave man the opportunity to choose, but commanded us not to; only to follow God, don't choice. Or simply, only choose God. Eve made her choice, Adam made his choice. They then received the knowledge. Obey God= good, or disobey God=bad.

I wonder if it was more about the disobedience than anything else. The simple fact that they decided to refuse to obey God.

The sacrificial lamb was placed on an upright pomegranate stake. Pomegranates in carved form were on the old testament s priests garments between little bells. Pomegranate translated seedy apple. The inference is a pomegranate was what was eaten.

Or a dragon maybe...

​​​@@ValkieezUkelele seraphim are winged serpents of fire. If satan is the serpent, it had wings. Dragon works too, but seraphim are angels so... Some traditions actually have Helel (Lucifer and Satan) riding the serpent which was Samael. Some have Samael as Satan. Samael is the "satan" (literally translates to accuser in hebrew) in Job. So Devil, Helel, Satan, Samael, Samyaza as in Enoch. Could be any of these or none of these. We dont know, nor are we to know until the end. God bless.

I think Christians have neglected to renew their minds. Still reading and trying to understand scripture through lense of atheist ,evolutionist indoctrination. Adam named the animals. Walked in garden communicating with God. Lived centuries! long. Adam and eve as well as Noah and his contemporaries we're "superhuman" in strength and intellect. Atheist , evolutionist want us to envision them as barely evolved cavemen while only their evil ancestors were gods like Zeus, Thor, Nimrod etc.

@Ewok Crowe and the sad thing is .we are still living in that cruse.

Surprised? Apparently not since she carried on a conversation with it.

I was always thought it was odd that Eve didn't freak out when the snake spoke even as a child. I've have always felt that animals back then could talk.... My biggest questions about the story was how much older was Adam than Eve? Did he find her annoying and where was he during all of this and what was he doing?

@@robbiemckenzie7822 Adam was swapping stories with the Fox up the street.

Dude. White man speaks with FORKED TONGUES. Satan possesses a snake like devils in the pigs. A snake is perfect. Dinos dont have FORKED TONGUES.❤👍😎

@@robertvann7349 Why are you being racist by calling the white man the Devil on a Christian RU-vid channel?

@@robertvann7349 shut up loser

@@robertvann7349 NO ONE that is alive today has EVER SEEN a Dinosaur so WHO EXACTLY determined what a Dinosaur had or didn't have? GOD AND THE BIBLE DON'T LIE.. MEN DO.

They do have leg appendages.

Serpent is representative of beings from a heavenly home. Christ was represented as a serpent with Moses when the people were being bitten by fiery serpents.

@carly “some say” does not equal “the Bible says.”

@carly Not nations...tribes(12 tribes of Israel).

So why does Bible talk about the 4 rivers {pishon} {gihon} {hiddekel} (Tigris) and {phirat} (Euphrates) and 2 of them well know??? and also the “good” gold of “havilah” if eden is this so called “spiritual” realm

@@benclark4823those places existed but God walked on the earth. The Garden was a timeless place until sin happened. Revelation 21:1-3 shows God coming down bringing Heaven with Him, merging the physical with the spiritual, just like it was in the Garden before the Fall of Man. “21 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.”

@@AtreyuKhalil this so called “sin” just sounds a EXCUSE for YOU Christians to say why “magic” doesn’t exist anymore are you REALLY going to believe your so called “magical” garden doesn’t exist anymore because a “mud” man and his “rib” wife ate a forbidden ”magical” fruit from a “talking” serpent 🍎🐍🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ ALSO you don’t explain WHY the {hiddekel} (Tigris) and {phirat} (Euphrates) and the “good” gold aren’t ALSO “spiritual” MORON 😩

Or you haven’t and you just want to consider that aspect as well…

Eve spoke with the serpent. What serpent? The Hebrew word is חשׁ, nachash, and it is pronounced 'naw-khawsh' H5175 in Strong’s Concordance. In the Old Testament, this word is rendered as “serpent” by the translators who compiled the King James Version. Strong’s defines “חשׁ⁠” as “snake”. Nachash is the noun form of a primitive root meaning properly to hiss, that is, whisper a (magic) spell; generally to foretell the future. You can see how they associated these mystical ideas with snakes, but snake alone doesn’t convey these ideas to the reader. Rather than serpent, “hisser” or “whisperer” would better give the sense of “nachash”. In the Old Testament “nachash” describes: Eve, the tribe of Dan, snakes 8 times, Moses’ rod 2 times, the serpent of brass 2 times, invaders 5 times, evil people twice, a constellation of heaven, too much wine and the Nations. “nachash”, in Genesis 49, refers to an attribute of the tribe of Dan: Gen 49:17 “Dan shall be a SERPENT by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.” In this instance, the serpent is clearly NOT LITERAL. Take away the tribe, and the serpent is gone, because it only describes an attitude of the tribe and has no separate independent existence. Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. I believe that Eve’s seed mentioned in Genesis 3v15 refers ultimately to our Lord Jesus Christ. If the Lord is the “woman’s seed”, then surely God is not saying that serpent would literally bite the Lord, nor would the Lord literally stomp on that serpent The serpent must then be figurative or a symbol of something else, and so it cannot be a literal animal. Now that we are aware of this original Hebrew word, we can understand that the nachash in Eden is something other than a snake. Supporting this is the fact that everything created was seen by God to be “very good”.(Genesis 1v31) God would not punish a serpent that was not under any law. If it was under a law, sin came into the world by a snake and not by man. God would not bring retribution on an animal for doing what it was created to do. It follows then, that the alternative view of the Genesis 3 “serpent” is that it provides animation to those thoughts of Eve which produced Sin. Importantly, this conclusion maintains God’s Righteousness. This understanding of Eve does not allow the error that God provided His agent to tempt Adam and Eve.

@@cc3775 Oh my gosh, that’s so deep! Thanks for sharing! I highly recommend you repost that to the top level of comments. You inspired me to look into that some more. 😊

@@HeatherHogue73 of course RU-vid deleted my response to you linking some videos to watch. I use to believe in a literal Satan and all these things as well. Now I have a better understanding without having to believe that Gods heavenly messengers sin and there is division and strife in heaven. Otherwise why would we pray for Gods will to be done on earth as it is in heaven? Hebrews 1:14 says all angels are ministering spirits to those who inherit salvation. The way I understand it is the serpent is temptation, the seed of the serpent is sin and death. If we understand personification in scripture it’s not hard to see. If you want to know more I suggest joining a Christadelphian Facebook group, there’s also one called The devil, Satan and demons in the Bible parables or reality.

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I've always thought it was winged but listening to them say "beasts of the field" maybe I'm wrong

Probably a snake. Why? White man speaks with FORKED TONGUE IE. LIARS. SATAN THE FATHER OF FORKED TONGUED DEVIL CHILDREN. ❤👍😎

@@paulsimpson3113 Snakes have FORKED TONGUES like all LIARS.

@@robertvann7349 thanks to the snake Adm and eve where saved from this despicable half gd of the old testament

Excellent point, and nd eloquently put! I tend to agree.

When you unplug an electric fan, it slowly comes to a stop. When Adam and Eve unplugged themselves from God, so to speak, they slowly died.

@@fredadockrell1862 That's a very interesting analogy

I just always looked at it as God being able to execute judgment whenever he pleases to suit his purpose. It’s like him using pharaoh to make his name known. Judgment was rendered that day and they began the decline into death, but they hadn’t had children, so he used them to carry out his purpose to populate earth. If they had reproduced, they probably would have died on the spot. I don’t know. That’s just my take.

But it’s definitely interesting and I want to look into it

Just a quick question. If there was no death before sin, it means that it did not exist. So how can you say/threaten someone with something that does not exist?

I agree, and according to the Bible, angels can also change their physical form.

This is my belief. Michael Heiser and Tim Mackie teach this too.

Considering man hadn't discovered fossilized remains of dinosaurs until just a few hundred years ago, yet symbolism of dragons has existed for millennia (both in and out of the Bible), yes, it was a memory - or even perhaps an eye witness account of dinosaurs living long after the Flood, but eventually dying out due to climate and atmospheric changes.

Amen. I’ve always thought that the beast system would come out of China due to them symbolizing a dragon.

@@nickshively1192 Satan is an angel, and angels look like men (Genesis 18, Joshua 5:13-14; Mark 16:5, Matthew 28:2). - It's just poetic language being used of Satan, he's not a literal snake, just as the Lord Christ Jesus is not a literal lamb, or lion, or branch etc. - REVELATION 20:2 "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old SERPENT, which is the Devil, and SATAN, and bound him a thousand years," the fallen angel who is Satan/that old "serpent" was in the garden - Ezekiel 28:13, 14 "You were in Eden, the garden of God;... 14“You were the anointed cherub who covers;..." - GENESIS 3:14 "And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:" The being cursed to be on his belly seems to be a sign of degradation, that he will never be anything more than low, someone who is low, crawls on top of the dust and eats it, but it's not literal cause Satan/"the serpent" continued to walk upright after he was in the Garden - JOB 2:2 "And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from WALKING up and down in it." The crawling on, and eating of "dust" could also represent that he is above men and has power over them and consumes them (men's flesh being made of dust). - Psalm 103:14 "For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust." - 1 PETER 5:8 "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" (devouring men = eating dust) But if a man follows the Lord Christ Jesus then they (through Christ) can be above Satan and he cannot consume them as dust. Satan is above men, but Christ is above Satan, so if a man will join to Christ then Christ will take that man out from underneath the power of Satan/"the serpent" and place that man above with Him. - LUKE 10:19 "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." Satan is under Jesus so he could only touch Christ's heal (I think this is that Satan could only kill Christ is the flesh), but Christ is above Satan and crushed his head (by taking Satan's power over men away by freeing them from spiritual death (if they join to Him and eventually destroying Satan for good in hell). - GENESIS 3:15 "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed. He will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.” - HEBREWS 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;" - EZEKIEL 28:18-19 "...therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, AND NEVER SHALT THOU BE ANY MORE." - MATTHEW 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Also I'm pretty sure that the seed of the serpent are the actual physical children of Satan through his son Cain (the Kenites) - John 8:44, Matthew 23:33, 1 Chronicles 2:55, Revelation 2:9, and 3:9 etc.)

@@chrismba777 Satan is an angel, and angels look like men (Genesis 18, Joshua 5:13-14; Mark 16:5, Matthew 28:2). - It's just poetic language being used of Satan, he's not a literal snake, just as the Lord Christ Jesus is not a literal lamb, or lion, or branch etc. - REVELATION 20:2 "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old SERPENT, which is the Devil, and SATAN, and bound him a thousand years," the fallen angel who is Satan/that old "serpent" was in the garden - Ezekiel 28:13, 14 "You were in Eden, the garden of God;... 14“You were the anointed cherub who covers;..." - GENESIS 3:14 "And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:" The being cursed to be on his belly seems to be a sign of degradation, that he will never be anything more than low, someone who is low, crawls on top of the dust and eats it, but it's not literal cause Satan/"the serpent" continued to walk upright after he was in the Garden - JOB 2:2 "And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from WALKING up and down in it." The crawling on, and eating of "dust" could also represent that he is above men and has power over them and consumes them (men's flesh being made of dust). - Psalm 103:14 "For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust." - 1 PETER 5:8 "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" (devouring men = eating dust) But if a man follows the Lord Christ Jesus then they (through Christ) can be above Satan and he cannot consume them as dust. Satan is above men, but Christ is above Satan, so if a man will join to Christ then Christ will take that man out from underneath the power of Satan/"the serpent" and place that man above with Him. - LUKE 10:19 "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." Satan is under Jesus so he could only touch Christ's heal (I think this is that Satan could only kill Christ is the flesh), but Christ is above Satan and crushed his head (by taking Satan's power over men away by freeing them from spiritual death (if they join to Him and eventually destroying Satan for good in hell). - GENESIS 3:15 "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed. He will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.” - HEBREWS 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;" - EZEKIEL 28:18-19 "...therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, AND NEVER SHALT THOU BE ANY MORE." - MATTHEW 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Also I'm pretty sure that the seed of the serpent are the actual physical children of Satan through his son Cain (the Kenites) - John 8:44, Matthew 23:33, 1 Chronicles 2:55, Revelation 2:9, and 3:9 etc.)

Satan is an angel, and angels look like men (Genesis 18, Joshua 5:13-14; Mark 16:5, Matthew 28:2). - It's just poetic language being used of Satan, he's not a literal snake, just as the Lord Christ Jesus is not a literal lamb, or lion, or branch etc. - REVELATION 20:2 "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old SERPENT, which is the Devil, and SATAN, and bound him a thousand years," the fallen angel who is Satan/that old "serpent" was in the garden - Ezekiel 28:13, 14 "You were in Eden, the garden of God;... 14“You were the anointed cherub who covers;..." - GENESIS 3:14 "And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:" The being cursed to be on his belly seems to be a sign of degradation, that he will never be anything more than low, someone who is low, crawls on top of the dust and eats it, but it's not literal cause Satan/"the serpent" continued to walk upright after he was in the Garden - JOB 2:2 "And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from WALKING up and down in it." The crawling on, and eating of "dust" could also represent that he is above men and has power over them and consumes them (men's flesh being made of dust). - Psalm 103:14 "For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust." - 1 PETER 5:8 "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" (devouring men = eating dust) But if a man follows the Lord Christ Jesus then they (through Christ) can be above Satan and he cannot consume them as dust. Satan is above men, but Christ is above Satan, so if a man will join to Christ then Christ will take that man out from underneath the power of Satan/"the serpent" and place that man above with Him. - LUKE 10:19 "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." Satan is under Jesus so he could only touch Christ's heal (I think this is that Satan could only kill Christ is the flesh), but Christ is above Satan and crushed his head (by taking Satan's power over men away by freeing them from spiritual death (if they join to Him and eventually destroying Satan for good in hell). - GENESIS 3:15 "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed. He will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.” - HEBREWS 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;" - EZEKIEL 28:18-19 "...therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, AND NEVER SHALT THOU BE ANY MORE." - MATTHEW 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." (Also I'm pretty sure that the seed of the serpent are the actual physical children of Satan through his son Cain (the Kenites) - John 8:44, Matthew 23:33, 1 Chronicles 2:55, Revelation 2:9, and 3:9 etc.)

The Greek word that our modern 'dragon' comes from also has a very similar root, albeit coming from a completely different language family than semitic languages. Meaning 'to watch/see/observe'. The current etymological theory behind this having to do with the fact that snakes do not blink, but I find it fascinating that the same two completely unrelated lingual groups have the same association in meaning for the same creature and see it as reinforcement to the confusing of tongues at Babel.

gospel ??? a gd who says he is the jealous gd and there is no other beside him ? who gives laws to respect life and a few pages later destroys a whole city animals included ?? you should be ashamed of believing the crap they feed you !

Interesting!!

This is correct, the serpent possibly had legs and wings... A description of a cherub (2 set of wings). A Leviathan/Dragon stripped of legs and wings, would crawl on the ground as a serpent.

I can imagine he wanted to take a creation if God's and twist it so much that it would be associated with him. Remember though, Satan can't create anything...which means dragons were made by God.

​@@gracekelehar4014 Satan can't create anything original, he can only corrupt what was once good and pure.

Also, the dragon is considered a mighty beast of the field. The greatest of all beasts. Of course Satan would possess it for himself.

Well said. What bearing does it have on the message of salvation whether the serpent had legs or not. Surely that is not the focus of the event described in Gen 3.

As Protestants, none of you can authoritatively answer any of these questions anyway. Sacred Scripture is not self interpreting, which is why Saint Paul said, the “pillar and foundation of all truth“ is the Church, not a book that the Catholic Church put together. As holy and wonderful, as it may be, a book cannot interpret itself.

Of course it's not a salvific issue. But if you were building and ark encounter type of exhibit to educate young people, and encourage people toward Christ, wouldn't that question come up? And would it be worth digging into a little bit? It did come up for them therefore they have put some thought into it.

I think it's a very important issue for our times. Because Genesis has been under "assault" so-to-speak by so-called "scientific" theories like evolution. This is very important for younger people being taught evolution in schools. Instead of God's word. It has to do with whether or not people will trust the Bible. If you don't trust the rest of scripture, how can you trust the most important aspects of it?

I would argue that calling God liar is in fact, a salvation issue. That's the most dangerous thing anybody can do after blaspheming Him.

Dragon/dinosaurs

Think about it, snakes are seen as the serpent. But think, on your belly you shall go. On your belly/ eat dust this symbolises death, end, extinction.

@@SeanBeatsMapsonThe Serpent was Satan. That verse just says he was “more crafty and subtle than any of the other animals God made” it doesn’t say the Serpent was a beast. Being called the Serpent is just describing Satans character

@@AtreyuKhalil Satan is just anyone who is against God from my knowledge. The serpent is more than likely lucifer, or a follower of lucifer.

“Other” is not in the Hebrew and aside from the ESV I don’t believe it’s in most modern translations.

You sir hit it on nail.

Careful, Satan as taught in Ezekiel, was of the order of Cherubim and not Seraphim. He was the cherub of the covering. That was his annointing.

Exactly. Ha satan is not the same as Nachash. Dr. Heiser’s The Unseen Realm explains the difference well. For any who care to dig into the topic, his book is peer-reviewed scholarship, not mere speculation.

Good to know. As a reptile keeper the Genesis story sadly is a stumbling block that prevents many of my co workers form converting to Christianity

So Eve trusting gods creation is what doomed us then if she was tricked sounds like she was set up

The “Serpent” was Satan not a real snake. Satan is an Angel, Angels appear like men. The serpent is just a title for Satan because of Satans character, a slithering plotting cunning serpent.

@@AtreyuKhalil The “spirit” of Satan had overcome an ACTUAL serpent. The Bible even describes the animal as “more crafty than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made.” It tells us the serpent was a creation of God (and all His creations are good). Yet, in being used for deception against Creation, it was also given a special punishment by God to crawl on its belly. Why punish the animal if it wasn’t a part of the deception at all?

Buddy the Bible says word for word why… woman are the weaker vessel. And woman aren’t created in Gods imagine. That’s why the serpent went for eve. Bc he couldn’t change Adam.

It could be that all the animals talked in the garden of Eden. But then lost that ability once the curse happened

@@dannys6976 Sounds like an acid trip.

What about telepathic or some other method of communication? So people today appear to have an uncandid way of communicating with animals 🤔

@@hackman669 Absolutely. I think animals may be able to see more clearly a persons “spirit” or “light” so to speak. And I personally believe the demonic can also communicate telepathically. This would be why the Bible relates to us that a sheep knows the voice of his shepherd, master.

@@hackman669I think it actually talked the demonic can influence and take the form of animals and probably spoke through it

Snake no doubt. Satan possesses pigs. Snake humans speak with FORKED TONGUES IE. LIARS.❤😍👍😎

Really? Like how? It was actually garbage. These two do not understand the Bible at all. Of course most don’t.

Not most Nigerian Christians but a lot.

How do they beat up Satan? Is he just standing there or something?

White man speaks with FORKED TONGUE. PROBABLY A SNAKE FOR SURE. DINOS DON'T HAVE FORKED TONGUES INDICATIVE OF A LIAR LIKE SATAN THE FATHER OF FORKED TONGUED DEVIL CHILDREN. SIMPLE.❤😍👍😎

Revelation 12:9,20:2.

Temptation is the adversary, serpent is personification of that temptation.

I wanted to write on my own but I figured... what the hey... let's write a random dude and see what happens...... So..... you ready??? The Serpent in the Garden of Eden is a Seraph, or Seraphim in it's plural form. Seraphim are 6 winged fiery serpents with arms and legs. Whoa.... what? Dude how do I know that? Was it Isaiah.... ??? Yeah... let's go with that. Isaiah ran into a Seraph/Seraphim. Well.... it picked up tongs to grab a coal.... boom! Arms and hands! It walked over to Isaiah... boom! Legs and feet. Also any Hebrew scholar will attest to the six winged fiery serpent that is the Seraphim. Okay.... so how do I know that The Satan is a Seraph? Gosh darn it how do I know The Satan was the serpent? Dude..... Revelation calls The Satan "the serpent of old." Oh boy here we go!!! God said to the serpent..... "On your belly you will go and eat the dust of the earth." Booyah! God removed The Satan's arms, legs, and wings. Yeaaayah! Oh wait there's more!!!! Check this one out!!! No one EVER catches this..... God said to the serpent.... "I will put enmity between YOUR SEED and the woman's seed." You know what that means? The Satan can reproduce, i.e. have children..... children that are obviously other snakes. Oh boy here we go!!! Kinda makes sense with the whole Sons of God (Angels) coming down and having sex with the ladies creating The Nephilim thereby inciting God to flood the whole earth thingy. Am I done now? I think I am..... Oh wait.... finality!!! There's nowhere in scripture that says that The Satan was the most beautiful angel or that The Satan is a Cherub/Cherubim, and there's nowhere in scripture that states that The Satan was the chief musician either. However (there's always a however).... The Seraphim are singers that fly around The Throne of God singing "Holy Holy Holy" like in Revelation, and Cherubim are warriors and guardians like we see in The Garden of Eden with the fiery sword. This is how The Satan is so charming.... music/singing/songs are meant to entice people, right? Who better than that crap sucker The Devil to sing a sinful tune to get people to do what he wants? Okay I'm done now. Reeses Peaces, ya'll. Oh yeah.... Booyah!

@@therant3837 I would have taken you more serious if you were more serious In Your writing

@@YAHWEH-SAVES777 I'm Bipolar. Forgive me. I can be.... weird sometimes, but my psychotic obsession with The Bible and God remains unchanging. While many people see that as a bad thing I call it good. There's nothing more awesome than finally having the source of all life and knowledge at our fingertips and tips of the mind and heart. I apologize. I get worked up from time to time.

Satans fall? This is no where in scripture. Gods heavenly messengers do not sin. There is or never was division and strife in heaven. Why would we pray for god will to be done on earth as it is in heaven if this was the case?

@@cc3775 Then dude.... Why was Michael in opposition to The Satan about Moses's body after he died? Why did Satan tempt Jesus? Why did The Satan challenge God about Job? And it IS written of The Satan (Adversary) will be going to Hell in The Revelation of Jesus Christ, and that Hell was reserved for Satan, his Angels (the ones who joined him) and all those outside of Christ. To be honest I highly doubt there was a "war" in Heaven. However there is certainly a war down here. The Devil has been with me for quite some time. I've railed myself in the head, bashed it off of walls, and even tried to kill myself twice. Dude all it takes is a couple of syllables from The Devil to accomplish my madness. He's nothing to mess with. Yet much like Job God is still in control of the situation. This is why I became obsessed with The Devil, who he is, and why God allows him to attack us in the first place. The last one I still don't know.... yet. And as for God's will done on earth as it is in Heaven it's obvious isn't it? God's will is barely done down here due to the sin of mankind, and yet God's will is still accomplished. It's not much of an answer but it's the best I can personally think of.

When I see a snake I don't think of Satan. I'm fascinated by them and don't fear them but do respect them. I'm very appreciative of the nonvenomous rodent control.

I have a habit of cursing Adam as I am digging up weeds.

@@mikelambrecht7267 Don't do that! Did you ever stop to think that he ate because he wasn't gonna let her take the fall all by herself just like God didn't let us? He sent Jesus an actual PART Of HIMSELF to fix all that!

@@Starbuckin You're right, that was a part of Adam's thinking, but it was still disobedience. Adam didn't come under the influence of the serpent, so he wasn't 'deceived' like Eve was (not that I'm making excuses for her). He could see what had happened and chose to participate anyway. Who knows what could have happened if Adam had chosen differently? We're told that he's the 'one man' through whom sin entered the world. But I agree, curse neither Adam nor Eve, because we just don't know what any of us would have done in their place.

God could of done anything who really knows,

How have you naver seen a snake between man and woman?

I think the nature of humans like Adam and Eve was also different back then- God’s original design for humanity surely surpassed what we have become now - just like the serpent original form has changed due to sin / disobedience to God - I think that’s also why we get new bodies bc rn we are in a corrupted state of humanity- but with Christ our connection to God Yahweh is redeemed

Ellen white was a false prophet

@@vedinthorn False only to those who don’t read her works. She had many antagonists throughout her life. I used to believe these many false arguments against her, but overall, you will eventually discover she was a true prophet when you read from a spiritual and nonjudgmental viewpoint.

@@KingArtexerxes you mean if I ignore the bible and shut off my brain? No thanks.

@@vedinthorn No. I mean if you treat the Bible the same way you treat Ellen White’s writings, you’d be an atheist.

@@KingArtexerxes I treat the Bible as something historically demonstrable. If it weren't, I'd have no use for it. Ellen White contradicts it many times over, so she must be a liar.

Dinos don't have FORKED TONGUES, snakes do. Liars have FORKED TONGUES. Simple.

Doesn’t make it true

@@cc3775 doesn't make what true?

The Hebrew term is MUWTH MUWTH meaning "dying: you shall die" indicating not necessarily immediate death but a gradual process of degeneration.

So because Eve believed the lie that even *touching* the fruit would kill her and after touching it was (obviously) still alive, she felt confident that *eating* it probably wouldn't lead to her/their death either. Lesson: Believing lies is at least dangerous, if not deadly.

@@meghoughton562 The command was originally given to Adam. When he repeated it to Eve after her formation he likely added "not to touch it" as an added precaution to protect her.

@@ojaiallen8004 (Genesis 2:17) "in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” Jehovah certainly could have easily and rightful executed the humans and Satan immediately. However, hundreds of millions of other angels were watching. Issues had been raised. Jehovah’s universal sovereignty had been brought into question. Did Jehovah have the right to rule? Could humans successfully rule themselves apart from God? Would any humans choose to follow Jehovah despite temptation? If Jehovah removed them and created new humans, the issues would still be unresolved and could happen again with other humans and angels. Only time could resolve these issues and Adam and Eve would have to live and produce offspring to provide answers. It was Jehovah’s stated purpose to fill the earth with the descendants of Adam and Eve. (Genesis 1:28) Jehovah’s purposes may be delayed, but they can never go unfulfilled. (Isaiah 55:11) If they had been destroyed, you and I would not be alive today and able to make a different choice. This was a great act of love upon Jehovah’s part. From the moment he pronounced judgment upon Adam, Eve and Satan; Jehovah had already begun arranging a plan for our eventual deliverance. Genesis 3:15b “He will crush your head, and you will strike him in the heel.” The strike in the heel of the woman’s offspring would be the temporary sacrificial death of Jesus and crushing the serpent’s head points to Satan’s eventual eternal destruction. Everything which happened with Israel: the setting up of the kingship and priesthood, the legal precedences establishing that blood represented life and a life could be offered up in place of own’s own life after sinning (Lev 17:11) , etc. was all going towards the eventual redemption of all obedient humans of every heritage and nationality. (Hebrews 6:18) “it is impossible for God to lie.” (Titus 1:2) God, cannot lie From Jehovah’s perspective, Adam and Eve died the very day they sinned and ate the forbidden fruit. You have heard the expression “Dead man walking” about prisoners who have been condemned to death, but have not been executed yet? Realize that Adam and Eve were not like us. They were perfect. Would they still be alive if they had never sinned? Yes. They had the expectation of living forever on earth as perfect humans, a hope which righteous ones will again have after God’s Kingdom brings an end to this wicked system. Psalms 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, and they will live forever upon it. At the moment Adam and Eve sinned they were no longer perfect. As sinners, they were as good as dead. Rebellion against their Creator and source of life made themselves no longer mentally or emotionally perfect. An immediate indication of their changed mental state was their hiding from God and being ashamed of being naked. One cannot be partially imperfect. Since they were mentally imperfect, they were also physically imperfect. Mental distress can affect one’s physical health. Prov 14:30 A calm heart gives life to the body, but jealousy is rottenness to the bones. Because they were still so close to physical perfection it took a long time before their bodies deteriorated to the point they died. (Gen 5: 5) all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died. From a certain perspective this could be considered dying within a day since Adam lived less than 1,000 years. 2 Peter 3:8 one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. However, since sin brings death there is precedence for living unredeemed ones to be considered like they are dead. Matt 8:22 Jesus said to him: “Keep following me, and let the dead bury their dead.” Speaking of the Prodigal Son repenting, Luke 15:32 “we just had to celebrate and rejoice, for your brother was dead but has come to life; he was lost and has been found.’” Ephesian 2:1-5 God made you alive, though you were dead in your trespasses and sins,2 in which you at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience.3 Yes, among them we all at one time conducted ourselves in harmony with the desires of our flesh, carrying out the will of the flesh and of our thoughts, and we were naturally children of wrath just as the rest. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love with which he loved us,5 made us alive together with the Christ, even when we were dead in trespasses-by undeserved kindness you have been saved. When did the Devil become a murderer? “When he began” to sin. Who did he murder? Adam and Eve and their offspring. Thus, Adam and Eve did die in the day they sinned and ate the forbidden fruit. John 8:44 the Devil . . . was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie. Satan is considered to have killed Adam and Eve on the day he convinced them to sin. Perfect people cannot be forgiven, because their actions are deliberate. Eve believed the lie, and she herself had stated Jehovah’s command and knew she was rebelling and then convinced Adam to join her. Adam knew what Satan said was a lie and he went along with it anyway. 1 Tim 2:14 Adam was not deceived, but the woman was thoroughly deceived and became a transgressor. What was that first lie? “You positively will not die” and “you will be like God.” (Gen 4:4) Satan slandered Jehovah by saying God had lied. Instead, they lost their perfection, began aging and died. Still Jehovah offers a hope to obedient mankind through his Kingdom which Jesus told us to pray for. (Matthew 6:10) www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-gods-kingdom-will-do/

They're over-thinking this. Genesis 2:17 ESV - but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in _the day_ that you eat of it you shall surely die.” 2 Peter 3:8 ESV - But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Apostle Peter is actually quoting Moses here, who wrote _this_ Psalm, and Genesis... Psalm 90:4 ESV - For a thousand years in your sight are but as yesterday when it is past, or as a watch in the night. So, when did Adam die exactly? Here... Genesis 5:5 ESV - Thus all the days that Adam lived were 930 years, and he died. Just under one _millennial_ day. That might seem like a long time to us now, but for a being who was supposed to be eternal, it's kind of a big deal.

That thing looked almost dog like. Weird

I just looked that up, and it's actually not a bad depiction at all. I think u might be on to something. I can see the original serpent looking similar to that. Then take it's legs away. ❤❤❤

@@jennifermichener4273 the babylonian sirrush is a theropod aka the t-rex type dinosaur , these are the only serpent created, when you look at theropods, their front legs are shrinking, eventually becoming snakes

@@forlatagate1 interesting

Eve spoke with the serpent. What serpent? The Hebrew word is חשׁ, nachash, and it is pronounced 'naw-khawsh' H5175 in Strong’s Concordance. In the Old Testament, this word is rendered as “serpent” by the translators who compiled the King James Version. Strong’s defines “חשׁ⁠” as “snake”. Nachash is the noun form of a primitive root meaning properly to hiss, that is, whisper a (magic) spell; generally to foretell the future. You can see how they associated these mystical ideas with snakes, but snake alone doesn’t convey these ideas to the reader. Rather than serpent, “hisser” or “whisperer” would better give the sense of “nachash”. In the Old Testament “nachash” describes: Eve, the tribe of Dan, snakes 8 times, Moses’ rod 2 times, the serpent of brass 2 times, invaders 5 times, evil people twice, a constellation of heaven, too much wine and the Nations. “nachash”, in Genesis 49, refers to an attribute of the tribe of Dan: Gen 49:17 “Dan shall be a SERPENT by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.” In this instance, the serpent is clearly NOT LITERAL. Take away the tribe, and the serpent is gone, because it only describes an attitude of the tribe and has no separate independent existence. Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. I believe that Eve’s seed mentioned in Genesis 3v15 refers ultimately to our Lord Jesus Christ. If the Lord is the “woman’s seed”, then surely God is not saying that serpent would literally bite the Lord, nor would the Lord literally stomp on that serpent The serpent must then be figurative or a symbol of something else, and so it cannot be a literal animal. Now that we are aware of this original Hebrew word, we can understand that the nachash in Eden is something other than a snake. Supporting this is the fact that everything created was seen by God to be “very good”.(Genesis 1v31) God would not punish a serpent that was not under any law. If it was under a law, sin came into the world by a snake and not by man. God would not bring retribution on an animal for doing what it was created to do. It follows then, that the alternative view of the Genesis 3 “serpent” is that it provides animation to those thoughts of Eve which produced Sin. Importantly, this conclusion maintains God’s Righteousness. This understanding of Eve does not allow the error that God provided His agent to tempt Adam and Eve.

You will find that a lot of people are afraid of heisers views because they can’t refute them. Keep reading his books.

@@Bibleguy89-uu3nr very true. What many people miss is that none of what Heiser teaches were his original ideas. A large number of Bible scholars wrote about the weird stuff in the Bible. Heiser just connected the dots.

@@michaelshannon6558 Yes for sure. When something seems to much to be coincidence it should at least be considered.

Brother, you're asking the right kind of questions. The difficulty is that dogmatic fundamentalist explanations of subject matters like this ignores the wealth of scholarly exploration which shines much light on these things. Spoiler alert: 'the serpent" was not a literal, snakelike, naturally occurring creature. "Nacash" = shining one. The recording of this narrative, which likely occurred thousands of years after it's happening reflects the author's intent of transmitting something that would have made sense to the contemporary ancient near eastern audience. There is so much nuance in the way of symbology and analogy that we could never understand in western 2022. ALL of this material must be read in light of the author's intent and the audience's understanding. I might suggest Dr. Michael Heiser's book 'The Unseen Realm'. It will challenge you and present a resolution to so many of the common conflicts like the one you have presented.

I never took the phrase “eat dust” literally but figuratively. For example, in a race one competitor might say to another that “you’re going to eat my dust.” Some snakes are constantly sticking out their tongues as a way to “smell” to explore their surroundings. I’m sure that they get a lot of dust particles on it.

The eating dust and crawling on the belly comes from Satan being made low in Ezekiel 28 when he was thrown out of Gods council.

Where The wind Blows Jet Stream you can’t feel that The gentle breeze on your Head and arms make you feel good. And the ground breeze that stores up , dust for the serpent , he needs Dust to eat all the days of his life.

🧐 hmmmm. Interesting

I can understand your pain for sure. You are right that death is not how it “ought to be,” because when God created, everything was perfect and death was not a factor. But the moment of the “fall”, death was the consequence. Fortunately, God didn’t just leave us there though. Redemption is coming and death, through Jesus Christ, will have no hold on those who are his. ❤️

Death is part of life as we know it now, but death is not part of our eternal life that we have with Jesus. Praise God and glorify Him! There will be no more pain nor suffering. God bless you my brother and give you peace.

1 Thessalonians 4: 13 Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14 We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage each other with these words.

well it is just a door to the next existence. just like you came out of your nother's womb and found yourself here. You will come out of the womb of the world into heaven.

Plus, the death of Jesus Christ took away the 'sting,' of death in that 'whoever believes in Him and does as He taught, will not die, but have eternal life, once this body dies off. Their soul will be saved and then dressed in an incorruptible body.

God is the one described as a dragon.... I mean, it's literally in the Bible.

@@Rigamus11 he calls Satan a dragon in revelations

@@GraphixHurricane true but in Esther Mordecai has a dream of two dragons battling each other and the good one defeating the evil one. Mordecai is the good dragon in the dream and Haaman is the evil dragon

​@@Rigamus11nope. It's literally not. God isn't a physical animal a dinosaur is a new word for dragon. Dragons are dinosaurs. Dragons probably exist in both sense of the words terrible big lizards and some also capable of breathing fire and fliying.

Apparently Satan isn't actually a serpent but manifested as one yet serpentine looking but not a slithering belly one.

But Satan was not a seraphim. He was a cherub as explained in Ezekiel. The cherub of the covering.

Attractive in what way?

Cain

@@trudymaenza9672 No. They quoted Jesus when He referred to the religious opposition as a brood of vipers. Those who oppose the work of the Messiah are of the seed of the serpent. This is a Biblical metaphor, not literally, just like in John 8:44. These people do not literally have the Devil as their father.

We do know what happened to the dinos , species dying out is nothing special

Dinosaurs were created/ cross bred by the nephilim in Gen ch 6. Dinosaurs were unclean animals that most of them got buried in the flood.

Whatever it was it was the subtlest " beast" of the field. It was most certainly NOT a dragon which is the strongest most fearsome beast God made

@@cedriceric9730 Rev 12:9 KJV And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Genesis 3:3 "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made." God compares the serpent to the rest of the beasts of the field in terms of level of craftiness.

Nachash means to whisper

@@ojaiallen8004 you have to study these verse in the original Hebrew translation. The Bible explains itself. Serpents don't speak, don't walk, doesn't have semen it lays eggs.I would suggest get a Strong Concordance with Hebrew and Greek definitions to let the Bible explain itself.

@@bRAgadino it also so means burning or shining like bronze as in the bronze serpent that Moses had,so you have to read it in context to see how they used that word in that verse.

@@jtjeckiratutuhi6096 The thing is this. You cannot and should not use the present to interpret the past. The past revelation must be used to interpret the present. There could have been many design changes after the fall (curse). The serpent went on its belly, Eve now had pain in child's birth, plants grew thorns et cetera. Snakes do not speak or walk today. However, is it a great possibility that it did before the fall (curse) in perfection? Very well.