Most "Lizards" Are NOT True Lizards At All! 

Hey Clint Laidlaw, Why don't you get to think of a suggestion and creating a RU-vid Videos all about the 🐭🐹🦫🐁🐀🐿️ Phylogeny Group Of Rodents 🐭🐹🦫🐁🐀🐿️ on the next Clint's Reptiles on the next Saturday coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍

Hey Clint Laidlaw, Why don't you get to think of a suggestion and creating a RU-vid Videos all about the 🦔Phylogeny Group Of Insectivores🦔 (Insectivora), such as Shrews, Moles, Hedgehogs, Solenodons, Gymnures, Moonrats, Desmans, the Extinct West Indian Shrews, Etc. on the next Clint's Reptiles on the next Saturday coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍

R u going to do a video regarding the recent gila incident?

Bird is a bird....a lizard is a lizard. I suppose all the re-classification in the scientific community is keeping many folk in jobs....

Moonrats and gymnures are actually the same thing, "gymnure" is the more correct name for members of the family Echinosoricidae, since they are not rats at all, in fact, Insectivora is actually an outdated taxon, which is now replaced with six convergently evolved orders being Macroscelidea (Sengis and Fossil Relatives), Afrosoricida (Tenrecs, Potamoes, and Kruipmols), Soricomorpha (Shrews, Moles, Desmans, and Solenodons), Erinaceomorpha (Hedgehogs and Gymnures), Scandentia (Banxrings), and Dermoptera (Colugos and Fossil Relatives), the largest gymnure species is the Giant Gymnure (Echinosorex gymnura).

I’m looking at this Tegu on my monitor, does that make it a monitor lizard also?

more like " monitoring" lizard, a painter is not the picture he is painting.

No, tegus just don't care about security in the way monitors do.

Where do else do you think monitor lizards come from?

Make him do it under water.

That's actually funny, because we are in the synapsids group that contains animals like dimetrodon, and all gorgonopsids. So while we aren't lizards. We might be related to some

No silly that’s only politicians

Possibly a loungelizard?

The assumption that you can't categorize things except along strict genealogical lines means, among other things, that there are no such thing as trees. You can name clades while also reserving the right to name morphotypes and ecotypes without disputing the reality of clades.

I was once married to someone that was a snake, not a lizard. So maybe there are some lizard people out there too? :D

If by 'letter' you mean 'void my bowels all over the table'.

@@malusignatiusHe will excrete his opinion all over the source of his inconvenience!

@@qa377 You could say inconvenience make Gus Gus incontinent.

I love Gus Gus. He's so beautiful. I just wanna squoosh those cheeks!

I immediately though, AH HA! CLINT TOO THINKS THEY ARE LIZARD PEOPLE!

I wonder who'd be the hagfish of celebrities?

Me too

​@@mischiefwargaming Bruno Mars.

I'd say Jake Paul is the hag fish of celebrities. He doesn't look like a celebrity, or act like one, but if Mike Tyson is a celebrity (celeb from the sports phylogeny) and Mr beast is a celeb (from the RU-vid phylogeny ) then Jake Paul has to be in the celebrity clade

As far as I understand it, "firben" (four-legs) technically only refers to lacertas, of which the only two species of native legged-lizards in Denmark, both belong to. The more generic Danish term corresponding to lizard would be "øgle".

@@JCEmotep Huh, curious. I never even knew that it is that specific. But then again, øgle is also loosly being used to discribe pretty much any reptile with legs, so it doesn't surprise me that much. :)

Well in Sweden we often still call the slow worm a snake. Our two other lizards are true lizards anyways.

@@CainXVII Haha yea, we do both call the adder snake a worm though :)

​@@Kasperhp7410Well, as a New Englander, I'd like to point out that our shared ancestors also called dragons "worms", so this state of affairs goes way back 😅

A stellar take for those that want to watch the world burn!

There is a reason why a feathered serpent exists...

The only true living dinosaurs not lizards.

​@@ClintsReptilesthat's hilarious

If dinosaurs are terrible lizzards, does it mean lizards are terrible dinosaurs and consequently birds? Dinoaves? 🤔

Exactly why I love this channel 😂

I love reptiles and snakes and birds and exotics generally. I'm a cat owner of three years and would love to adopt a displaced exotic. I love seeing reptiles in the wild. I had a small Indian lizard (don't know what species) fall on me as a young child and my reaction was pure joy.

So many of us reptile aficionados are typified by an older guy with bald head or long hair, tattoos, long beard & black clothing with death metal logos; it's practically a stereotype, like we're all biker types who prefer scalies over fuzzies for pets. Just 'cuz we're supposedly "edgy" doesn't mean we can't love something. And, heck, not all of us even match that appearance, like Clint with his tie & Mormon ring. Frankly, I'm of the former personal appearance, yet, I normally have cats (I sadly can't afford to be the home of a lovely reptile, yet--one day, I hope to have some Garter snakes or a cute little Hognose, maybe a ball python--I'm partial to snakes, something that can handle being in a small space as I live in a small house). LOL

Dark, edgy weirdos move over. We got a keen, cheerful weirdo 😁

Squamates? What's that mean?

Skink gang unite!

Skink gang unite 💪

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Skink skink skink

In the immortal words of the coach from Letterkenny: IT'S * EMBARASSING

Considering that most college textbooks take their "research" from Wikipedia, it all comes full circle.

@@YochevedDesigns with a surcharge equal to the down payment on a house.

Yeah, I'm not a college textbook author but I felt the burn

But not that strange. Deep phylogeny is in constant movement. By the time your textbook has left the printer, something is bound to have changed. Wiki is moderated by people who know their fields.

Gusgus thinks he is a lap dog so it works.

@@MEKCreations He is only a bit bigger than my (medium sized) dachshund, so that makes sense lol. Now my lab also thinks she's a lap dog, so I wonder if the same applies to bigger reptiles haha

@@DatNinjaCow03 I can confirm that our Berner sennen dog also thought he was a lapdog, despite only barely being able to fit his _head_ on an average lap. Which was what he would usually settle for.

The people who named lizards didn't know what lizards were. The taxonomists are the ultimate pot stirrers

You do know what a lizard is, it's a lizard.

A true Lizard is a Squamate in the genus Lacerta, with Lacerta being Latin word for Lizard.

Taxonomy gets pretty fuzzy around the edges sometimes. Nature does not read the textbooks!

Clint repeatedly teaches me I don’t really know what ANYTHING is…

You're a Synapsid, Harry!

The common lizard (zootoca vivipara) is also the most northern lizard species. We get them in the UK

Podarcis contain such a fun and easy species. What a shame people aren’t more into them.

Zootoca vivipara is the only one I've seen in the wild, they are so cute, including babies and pregnant females. Unfortunately they are hard to find among reptile pet lovers here

@theotheseaeagle, Zootoca vivipara is more correctly called the viviparous lizard as Lacerta agilis is more original than it, thus making Lacerta agilis the real "common lizard".

@@indyreno2933 Hey Reno, what are your thoughts on the taxonomy of Homo sapiens?

Genus Lacerta you can confidently call a Lizard, with Lacerta being Latin for Lizard, so are true lizards. I try not to use lizard where i don't have too, i don't class Geckos, Iguanas, Skinks, Monitors, Dragons (bearded, water, forest etc) as being lizards.

The world lizards basically means squamates except snakes. That is the meaning of the word, which works very well in language. Similar to how the world reptile does not include birds and the word amphibian does not includes reptiles, mammals and birds. Words like fish, amphibians, reptiles, Dinosaurs, lizards, work a lot better than terms like non tetropod fish, non amniote amphibians, non avian reptiles, non avian Dinosaurs and non serpent lizards. Everybody knows what you mean when you use the words I used at the beginning. When you say lizard or fish everybody in normal life knows exactly what you mean.

@@zebedeemadness2672 All these groups (gecko's, skinks, iguanas, agamids (which you call dragons) are lizards in langauge. That is what the world lizard means in language: the squamates apart from serpentes. It is also the world everybody knows. Similar to how the world reptile does not include birds. It just makes it a lot easier to talk about a certain selection of animals apart from saying a mouth flll like 'all the amphibians apart from the amniotes'. Even Clint has gecko's, iguanas, monitors, agamids in best pet lizard videos. Because they are all lizards in language but snakes are not. Despite some lizards being more closely related to snakes than other lizards.

@@nationalsniper5413 Squamata (squamate) means scaled/having scales, NOT Lizard or Snake, the order Serpentes means Snake, the Family Lacertidae means Related to Lacerta / Lizard, with only the genus Lacerta (Latin for lizard) being true Lizards, the taxonomy of squamate has changed fairly recently, this is why most squamates are referred to a "lizards", but it's no longer just three tidy suborders. Of Lacertilia, the Lizards (not valid), Amphisbaenia, the Amphisbaenians (Not valid), Serpentes, the Snakes (still valid).

@@zebedeemadness2672 English is not my first language so perhaps you misunderstood. I know what squamata literally means, this group contain the lizards and snakes (and worm lizards if you consider them separate from lizards). All the other animals in squamata apart from serpentes are lizards. Despite some being more closely related to snakes than other lizards. I know lacerta means the 'real lizards'. The word lizard is a paraphyletic group in LANGUAGE, a word in the real world which means all the squamates except snakes. Like the word amphibian excluding the reptiles, mammals and birds despite these being direct and indirect descendants of amphibians. However nobody in real life is going to say things like non serpentes squamata or non amniote amphibians. In fact most people won't even know that you mean. Things might be totally different in scientific classification a few years from now, it changes all the time. 🙂Sometimes the classification or even the scientific name of an animal changes back and forth. So I just say things like they are in language in real life. When I say reptile or lizard everybody knows what I mean. Many people unfamiliar to reptiles don't even know what an agamid is, so when I say I have pygmy bearded dragons (litertally translated to dwarf beraded agamids from my language) I explain these are lizards. In which case they have a general idea. In monophyletic classification the words lizards and reptiles do not exist at all. Only squamata and sauropsia exist there. Paraphyletic terms are words that include a certain group of animals that are related but not all of their descendants. Like reptile and lizard. A bearded dragon is a lizard but not a 'true lizard'. However, outside of the monopheletic classification there is something called real life in which the worlds reptile and lizard are valid existing words (just check the dictionary) and have a clear meaning. There are tons of books about reptiles and lizards. Neither of them include birds and snakes respectively. And imagine a book about fish, will it have to include amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals as well? 😀 If you go to a reptile store or expo and you say you are looking for a nice pet non serpentes squamate as a pet people will look at you strange and not understand, when you say you are looking for a nice pet lizard they understand. That is the difference between words in real life and the theoretical monophyletic classification, which is useful in science, but not in real life. Even Clint has 'best lizard' videos.

Yeah even though the poll mainly wanted to keep making them forever only 2% didn’t want to see them

We're still making them.

@@ClintsReptiles yay!

@@ClintsReptiles if I’m being honest it’s my favorite of ur content but it phylogenies are still really nice

I wonder if it may have been a subspecies of Mexican Mole lizard at an extreme Eastern limits of it's range, even though it's normally listed as a Baja California animal. There may have been a subspecies that lived further East that never got formally classified? Or a completely different species on it's own, just related. Extreme speculation on my part, & I'm not a biologist of any skill. Just an interested bystander.

We are the shark bite capital of the world, too. So perfectly fitting. Florida always needs more chaos.

at least they're more closely related to sharks than they are to annelid worms

Shark-worm snake seems perfect, as it is none of them but looks like all of them.

Uh oh.. in cladistics, Insectivora is the dirtiest of dirty words.

A wastebin taxon​@@michaellee4276

Moonrats and gymnures are actually the same thing, "gymnure" is the more correct name for members of the family Echinosoricidae, since they are not rats at all, in fact, Insectivora is actually an outdated taxon, which is now replaced with six convergently evolved orders being Macroscelidea (Sengis and Fossil Relatives), Afrosoricida (Tenrecs, Potamoes, and Kruipmols), Soricomorpha (Shrews, Moles, Desmans, and Solenodons), Erinaceomorpha (Hedgehogs and Gymnures), Scandentia (Banxrings), and Dermoptera (Colugos and Fossil Relatives), the largest gymnure species is the Giant Gymnure (Echinosorex gymnura).

I was a bit confused about this myself, but I think it is just the set up for the joke. From what I understand, what we consider canaries are the domesticated lineages of Serinus canaria, which, as you say, are found on (and named after) the islands. I may be wrong though, as it would not be the first time that Clint says something that completely contradicts my understanding of a fact or topic. Either way, it was a good joke :)

@@danicoeMB And the islands are named for dogs, so canaries are dog birds.

That’s not “Crime Pays But Botany Doesn’t” doesn’t get into that but so worth watching,

I have tried learning plant phylogeny on my own a bit, but it is so difficult to easily tell what kind of family a plant belongs to... animals are way easier in comparison I feel

I think being able to say that tuataras are not lizards is a cool nod to their distinct lineage. I mean, you could still tell people about that even if you included them in the lizards, but I think the easiest and most elegant way to get the idea across is to simply not include the tuataras in the lizards.

@@DJFracus In fact in my language (Dutch) the name for Tuatara is also brughagedis, which translates to bridge lizard.

Other animals: walk from North America to South America. Amphisbaenids: Imma take the scenic route. Which is ironic for animals that barely have eyes.

@@sophiejones3554 yeah it really is

The world lizard in language means all squamata except serpentes (snakes). Like how the world reptile includes the sauropsida except birds and the world Dinosaur does not include birds. It makes sense to exclude some decedents otherwise groups would become to large the world amphibian would contain all reptiles and mammals as well and the word fish would include pretty much all vertebrates.

Thank you for such a wonderful piece of encouragement! You'll never know how much comments like this help to keep me excited about what we are doing. Thank you so much for taking the time to leave that message.

Put people's worries to bed and address all the bad comments and remind people they are more likely to be killed by all other pets.