Remember watching live at the time ,15 years old (a great time for 500 GP's) Always remember it for Croz bringing Bazza down at Stowe, and the King getting beaten by Jack Middleburg on his privateer bike. That was a very rare sight for Kenny Roberts fans. Bring back 500 two strokes for me any time!
Had his fair share of luck in this race, but Jack took advantage of Roberts & Mamola fannying about, then when Mamola went onto 2 cylinders or whatever, he ambushed Roberts and fucked off with it. A great rider never given the right equipment and perishing in a Dutch Championship race at some open road dive.
This my era two strokes. My first bike was a Fizzy (FS1E). RD 200 electric. RD 250 air cooled, then 2 RD 350 LC'c with Micron exhausts. Could never afford the RD 500 LC.
I had an RD500LC, but sold it after two weeks of owning it so that I didn't either lose my license or kill myself. At speed it handled fine, but low speed handling was not what it was built for. Roundabouts were a nightmare at 30 mph, but no problem at all at 70 mph. A beautifully evil machine.
250LC, 350LC, then KR250 ending with an RG500. The only one I didn't race was the 250LC. The RG in Aust. mostly had to race in the 1000 class, 600 class was in my case ( being a South Aussie ) only at Mac Park. The RZ500 never had a chance, I held the lap record at MacPark from 86 til 92 on the RG and I sold it in 87! I used it on the road all the time and it pulled 11.5 @ 119mph down the quarter. The bike only had frequent oil changes, plugs, pads and new tyres to race it. Never lifted a head and it never even had a gearing change or even the fork oil. It was bought new and I was only seventeen. Clearing the plugs after it had warmed up left four trails in the mirrors and I never got tired of seeing that. The stock gearing was so tall that second was used in the suburbs, and second ran out at around 160 kmh. Also knew a guy who commuted on his, 1500km a week! It had 350,000 kay on it, he bought it new and the engine was mostly original and it never got washed. His only transport but definitely the best choice. I find it hard to think I sold it even though I knew it was the last roll of the dice for two strokes. But I raced and it was not competitive any more. Rode one 15 years later and have to admit that one disappointed me. My era also.
Bring back two strokes for me any day. I had an X7 with Microns back in '86 after I had passed my test, handled like a tea trolley but still quick for a 250. Rode my mate's 350 LC with allspeeds and it was the most exciting thing I ever rode and that includes all the large four strokes I owned later on.
I think I would put that down as the '79 GP at Silverstone. The '82 GP in Argentina was not bad either but this is right up there.(Certainly in pre Moto GP days) Just don't find it as exciting these days.
It's great to see someone who finally knows his GP/MotoGP stuff, instead of all these young one's that can only come out with "Rossi is God", "Rossi is King" etc, and don't you dare mention 'Casey Stoner' or your a piece of shit, or worse. Since Stoner joined MotoGP in 2006, he's won 2 titles, with 35 wins and 63 pod's. In the same time Rossi also has 2 titles with only 26 wins and 60 pod's. They can't handle hearing this fact, and watch the crap I'll receive for posting it again.
Barry Sheen was a extremely good adviser , working for Aussie tv ,tech , tactical, those race callers gave Barry is due respect which was nice to see , BARRY RIRP (REST IN REV PEACE) HOPE YR NUTS N BOLTS HOLD YOU TOGETHER YOU ARE SURELY MISSED . From the fearless world over RIP
You’re absolutely spot on there. I was there that day and at the time felt that we had been robbed of what could have been a really exciting race from Barry. Wrecked by Croz dropping it whilst pushing too hard at the beginning. Hey, that’s racing for you but, it still turned out to be a good race though and Jack surprised us all!
Super! Thanks! "Jumping" Jack Middelburg hereby prooved to de a true top-racer! I saw his awfull and sad life-ending crash in Tolbert/The Netherlands// in front of my eyes in 1982! Jack R.I.P./*\✓ @#rolfdejonge@
Terrific race. A pity Mamola's bike ran out of something or other on the last lap. Commentary by Murray Walker and the all-time great John Surtees. What a treat. Nowadays when watching MotoGP we have to listen to the babbling verbal dysentery of Keith Heuwen - a never-wozzer if ever there was one.
Keith Huewen is a great commentator and was a very good rider in his day. He was second in the 350cc race at this very GP and had several good GP finishes on inferior machinery, not many have achieved that sitting on a couch!
Great racing from my youth. These guys were my heros! It's amazing that a newer bone stock 600cc sportbike can blitz these lap times. Modern chassis's and tires with 500cc two stroke power........., I would pay to see that.
I can only assume yes, the old tyres and suspension were state of the art back then but obsolete nowadays, I think the 2-stroke powerband on these would have been vicious and very difficult to control, some very talented riders in this video. It kind of makes me think the current GP riders have it a little easier with anti-wheelie, traction control etc. but the new bikes also do 100kmh faster than these bikes so I cant blame them :-P
Awesome riding from the Dutchman. Pure skill. What a brilliant race - and back in the day when this circuit was one of the fastest around. A great upload - thannks yds205!
One off the Dutch great three!!! (probably the best) 1 'Jumping' Jack middelburg he won at Assen and Silverstone. (privateer) 2 Will Hartog ( The white giant ) One GP at Assen. (Factory supported) 3 Anton van Dulmen ( Den Boet ) One GP at Finland.(privateer) Sadly Jack died to early during a roadrace in Tolbert the Netherlands, iff he didnt i am sure he would be one off the greatest in the world!
Kalau jaman sekarang motor ini masuk katagori moto 2. Kalau moto GP jaman sekarang masuk katagori balapan mobil LCGC Sigra , Avanza dan sejenisnya. Karena CC nya sm hehe
It's stupid to compare stats in the 800cc era only when Stoner was (is) in his prime while Rossi is on his way out. Stoner has 2 800cc championships and seems to be struggling on the 1000s (relative to his 2011 performance). Rossi has adapted not only the change from 500 to 990 but also 990 to 800. You're saying Stoner is better while ignoring the first 6 years of Rossi's 500/990cc campaign? You're just acting like a victim for liking Stoner, when you don't like Stoner, you just hate Rossi.Irony
bellissima gara di un motomondiale che purtroppo non cè piu'...adesso solo business e polemiche... grande kenny a voltarsi indietro e fare segno a lucchinelli tutto ok?bellissime moto a 2tempi e grandi piloti a dominarle...grazie per l'upload
Pour avoir préparé, Mamola RG, la Loucadelo, mais cela se passe devant, Roberts et shenne, sa bataille sec, comme ces 500 🫶👆💙🤍❤️💫®️😊, Segura ☝️🤔, shenne emmene tou le monde droite, remise de pleine charge, la Honda s'arrête juste, et Freddie avec 3 cylindres 💙🤍, je vois une des dernières KR 💚☝️®️☝️, PS À MR SARRON💫, dommage car Mamola freine beaucoup trop tôt ☝️❤️💫et le BURG ☝️💫
Apparently Honda only fueled the NR 500 to do 10 or so laps as they thought it would be at the back or go bang but with Spencer on it that day it was going really well .
This actually was the case at the 1979 British GP. The prototype was a dog of a thing and Honda knew it, so they fueled them short to show well on the tv. By 1981 the bike was a much better prospect but it was just plain unreliable. It revved like crazy and broke a lot.
How many Starters 40 ! Now we have half that , but ten times more Bs, analysis & ever more bs,, very little time left for Racing,, it seems to be what the punters like 😊
How the hell was this 37 years ago????? I must be getting really old. It seems that it was maybe 10 or 12 years ago. But then again Vale 46 has been racing GP's for 22 years.
.I agree. I think the most powerful acceleration thrill I ever got, was riding one of those. Except for the 750, I ridden pretty much every performance bike built, or one of its rivals. 2 stroke power seems to have that real urge when accelerating that you dont get from a 4 stroke that does a reasonably quicker 1/4 mile time
Why can't they be a 500cc class anymore? don't say it pollute too much It's crap for the amount of time they actually use them. It's slower than 4 stroke these days yes so why not make their own class i'm sure some of us would go see them racing and possibly more than the actual GP races now, I would be one of them! I miss my 2 stroke racing and on the road also, I'm a 2 stroke lover, I wish they would be back and with out any computer controlling the bike, just raw power and have all compagnies possible like Kawasaki, Aprilia, that we did not see much those days.
Top Tier MotoGP is for manufacturers to develope the next generation of technology for their street motobikes. That's why are no 2 strokes at this level of competition. Enjoy this while you can. They will eventually go electric.
"And somebody's off !" As "in the line of fire and call of duty ! About eight st johns ambulance men lean over the rider, "who is swearing at the impact and waiting for a large intake of breath, lying and winded, spitting chunks of straw bale with his leathers up his arse, in a grassy run off trackside. If ! As it does sometimes come to pass, another rider did the same ? Well ? Eight pin body bowling ! 👍😎 / the commentary is ? Ok back to the race ! I've watched 27:43 - 18 laps..
Spoiler alert, cut to 43:30 to behold Murray Walker's classic exultation, "Look at his sponsor, he's absolutely, and understandably, and totally justifiably, beside himself", or watch the whole race, as it's something else. #silverstone #500cc * if I'm not mistaken, it's Murray, either way it's gold
Estos si que eran pilotos,me gustaría ver a marquez correr con estas motos sin control de tracción o anticaballito o los mapas de motor ect.ect ahora son abudirrisimas y demasiado postureo...ahhh aquellos años setenta y ochenta manma mia...
I think God just thought - Bazzer, you've got just way too much going for you, I'm gonna unfortunately have to give you a lot of bad luck..! At least that's how I see it... 😇!!
I'm reminded how scatterbrained Murrey Walker's commentary was " and it's Roberts, Kenny Roberts who takes the lead ... So Crosby leads, then Roberts, then Sheene ... "
was a superb lesson of riding - not only he rode strong compared to the factory bikes but he used his head to freak the mental of none other than the king himself . you can see all the race long how they were embarrassed with him sticking there.
Yeah, I used to be a rossi fan earlier in his PClass days, with all the worship and hoopla that went with it, till one day it occurred to me that he'd beaten no one. I was used to the days of Freddie Spencer right thru to M Doohan. Ther'es been no great riders (bar Rossi) since Stoner started. You say he's past it. At 29? If your going to scrape the bottom of the barrel and say Casey can't win on a liter bike, your definitely not serious. That the weakest excuse and oldest excuse possible.