This is the navigation setup I used on my previous TET trip. It worked really well in dusty conditions and pouring rain. Join our online forum: / membership Contact: Advriderjay@gmail.com The Gear I Use: www.amazon.com/shop/johannesd...
Hi Johannes, mate, I have to say your video was excellent. I have pretty much done the same set-up for my brand new Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Pro. I have the same tablet and Brodit holder. I do have a different mount to my bike, I have also the Quad Lock cables attached to the tablet.. AI wold like to say an excellent video, and set up. I also like to say because of your content, was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks once again from Canberra, Australia.
Brilliantly explained. You made everything so clear. I liked the way you broke down your setup into 4 main parts. Made EVERYTHING so much clearer now. Well done. I'm impressed. Have you made a video of the controller yet?
Nice stuff Johannes and a real eye-opener for a ‘seat of the pants’ rider like me who is used to just reading the trail, going as fast as possible and either making it through the next turn…or crashing! I am going to have to change my mindset significantly if I am to embrace screens as part of my ADV world. On the road I like audio cues for navigation but I doubt that’s ever going to work in the dirt!
Thanks! Having an overview over the next few turns is just a bonus, one should definitely practice reading the trail and surface too. What this reminds me of is in rally car racing where you have a designated guy reading the next turns and corners for you.
very nice, nice you mentioned incoming shape and corner sharpness is very useful , using in on twisties or on any unknown road/trail....great setup, thank you for sharing, cheers V!
Many thanks for this excellent video / review of the Samsung tablet & software. To be blunt, Garmin are just not going to have anymore of my hard earned money. As others have said, you buy a Garmin device and get locked into their world! I am trialling the software on my Nokia at present and find it really useful to monitor all the data coming from the ECU via an OBD wifi reader under the seat.
Seeing upcoming tight bends while ADV riding is a huge safety factor as you can prepare early and set-up to take the corner. Even on my tiny screen garmin it works well.
That's a great setup Johannes. Thanks for sharing it. I have been using a Lenovo M7 tablet running OsmAnd. Its a good size (7 inch) and cheap so that if it got damaged, it wouldn't worry me. The Samsung Active 3 looks like a great device but here in Australia its $600 AUD new and its a bigger 8 inch screen and quite heavy. The only comparable 7 inch tablet to the Active 3 that i can find is the Tripltek. Also great hardware but its $1,000+ AUD. You would think that with the popularity of drones that these tablets would come down in price.
Thanks for the tips, actually ended up with a used Active 2 tab with the ADV Thor holder on my KTM 690 with RebelX tower. Not completely finished with all the wiring yet, waiting for new light switches since i have the Terrier Command Gen2 switches.
I've got purchased the same solution for my BMW R1200 GS LC. Together with the Wunderlinq device I can control my Active Tab with the BMW-Wonder wheel and it works very well.
That was super helpful mate. Cheers. That holder for the tablet looked pretty secure and its good to hear that the tablet was still be readable in the sun. 👍
@@JohannesDalen Thanks for the great video! Would you happen to still know which plate you bought to mount the brodit holder to the rally tower? I mean that plate, that allows for turning the tablet 90 degrees from langscape mode into vertical. That seems like a really nice feature. Or would you do it different now?
@@ferdlhofreiter45 That was a feature on the brodit holder itself. I ended up taking that off since it kept tilting after bigger hits so I just mounted it in landscape mode permanently-
Johannes you are a (Scandinavian) legend! In 2023 I just couldn't make sense of buying a Garmin GPS for that money and being stuck in their eco system. The Carpe is awesome, but just too much money. I bought the Active 3 just like yours and am impressed by the built quality. Already loving it. Originally wanted to go for an active holder from RAM but after you explained the problems with the pogo pins, I opted for the Brodit with spring lock.
Awesome setup! I've been using my Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 3 as the dashboard for my ebicycle for several months now and it works really well. Nice vid!
Nice video! I have the same tablet on my bike for navigation. The only difference is that I ride a BMW K1600GTL and I'm not offroading (duh!). I was sick and tired of the Garmin, which is still a century backwards in that I can't upload a GPX through my phone or tablet to it, in fact forcing me to carry a laptop with me on holiday or pre-plan all the rides I want to do. Now I can use the tablet to do route planning, store the route on Google Drive or whatever and use it on the road. I made a mobile hotspot on my smartphone and use that internet connection. Works perfectly! The tip for that DM2 menu/dashboard app is cool, I'm going to try that out.
Are you telling me you don't have knobbies on your K1600? 😁 Thanks for sharing, I too think a designated GPS unit like a Garmin is becoming so outdated that switching to a tablet is much better. It's possible to add a twin-sim card to the Samsung tablet as well, so you can get internet and receive calls/messages on the tab too, but using your phone as a hotspot works too. Ride safe Mike!
Thank you so much ! That helped me a lot. I just ordered the Samsung active 3 (will come the next days) There are a couple of different Brodit-mounts availible and i was struggeling which of these holders i need to buy. Now i know what do do Thanks! Regards from germany and safe trails.
Got my set up in action now thanks to this. All for under £200!! I bought a used Active 2 Tab from ebay for £40. A nicecnc gps mount £13 (For a Norden 901) 2 x RAM balls (RAM B 347) RAM holder (SAM 29) RAM arm (201 B ARM) A 256GB micro SD card £15 12v to 5V usb Charging lead £10. Stuck Calimoto and Osmand on with offline maps loaded to the SD card. Perfect set up from great inspiration 👍
Are you having any issues with the active tablet 2. Are you running the DMD2 software as well? I just purchased a used active tab 2 to do a similar set-up.
@@danielyoung2219 I binned the DMD software. It has glitches that don’t allow you to load offline maps onto the SD card and you sharp use up the internal 16GB storage on the tab. Running Calimoto and Osmand no problem though as there maps happily load onto the SD card.
Nice video I use the same tablet for my navigation one thing I do that I didn’t hear you mention is I use my phones hotspot setting then my tablet has internet
I use a garmin Navigator 6 bike satnav which unlike tablets, is deigned to be fully waterproof and take shocks plus spare batteries are available from the factory for them if ever needed. Can't see myself using anything else. Used you can pick them up for under £300 and if you have a bmw you always have the option of the bmw cradle set up for charging and it additionally reads and displays all the bike's critical data like engine temperature, tyre pressures and just about everything you need to flick through bike dash screen menus for but all on one easy to read display. I'd be concerned about reliability with a tab but would also carry paper maps as a backup.
Well done! You actually answered most of my questions regarding usage of a tablet as a navigation device. It would be great if you make a long-term review after let's say a year or so. Unfortunately, when I look at your recent videos you have changed the ride quite a few times, so maybe the tablet as navigation is way back in the past for you. Ride safe!
Thank you! An updated video on this would indeed be nice. The trips I've been on since making this video (on any bike) hasn't required me navigating at all. The others guys do that and I focus on filming. The other guys in my group all use a tab like this one though, so combined we have a serious amount of traveled miles with this setup. I'm on a PR7 now, and that bike comes stock with a Samsung tablet, so I could make an updated video. My thoughts haven't changed though, a Galaxy tablet is THE way to go, it's so versatile.
Thank you! I would definitely take a closer look at the available tablets before buying a GPS. I forgot to mention that you can put a sim card in these tablets as well, so it can work as your phone in emergency situations or just as your phone too.
Hi, thank you, this is very informative… i will think about this combination hence i thought the screen may not be readable in fully sun shine… I will get back to you if i need more infos. many thanks. Pascal
One thing about phones and tablets is if you get one with a oled screen, dark themes give better battery life vs bright colors. And with LCD screens white backgrounds give better battery life. Also with some devices you can help power consumption by lowering screen resolution, and screen hz
Bloody excellent video , agree entirely about the tab active instead of the Carpe Iter, although Ive used a tab active 2 . 1300 Euros , absolute rip off . Regards from the UK.
Hi Johanes. Thanks for the video. It helped me to switch from a gps to a tablet. Very explanatory video. I found the mount, the cable which I've ordered but I did not find the bracket that you used to fix the mount onto the bike that allows me to rotate the tablet. Can you please tell me what is the brand of that braket? Thank you so much.
Other Android tablets to consider are: Oukitel RT3 Pros: Affordable, Android 12. Cons: Screen brightness is only 400 nits, no rear strap mount, 5150mAh battery. Hugerock T71 (or R71). Pros: Well made, 10000mAh battery, screen is 1000 nits brightness, tablet can be mounted via the included strap brackets. Cons: More expensive than the Oukitel RT3, screen is only 7 inches. If only the Hugerock offered a 8" model that's as cheap as the Oukitel, that would be good. I'm still undecided which one to get, but the brighter screen in daylight may be the way to go.
Hello Johannes, thank you for this video. Normally I use Locus Maps but I see that the dmd2 navigation is also good for gpx navigation. What do you use for offroad navigation, Locus or dmd2 nav?
Great movie! Based on it, I have configured my own kit and it works great. The cost was negligible because it is an older Tablet, but also a Galaxy Tab Active. TomTom ended up in a drawer. Greetings from Poland.
@@JohannesDalen Pay attention to the locking handle with a key lock. It will not protect your tablet from theft, because the thief will simply remove it from the rubber case.
How does the Tablet handle rain? Does it not start flippin' out then? Like my iPhone does when it's raining... Any solution around this? #ktm690enduror
Great setup Johannes. Do you know the offset of the Amps holes so that the tablet is centered when in landscape orientation. I'm trying to order the correct Amps offset plate.
Thanks Johannes, really great video! I did a similar setup on my BMW GS but I added also the controller for interacting with the map. How do you manage the tablet when your bike is parked in the box for long time? Are you shutting down manually or bring home for recharging? thanks
amazing video. I chose the same setting. but the brodit is too big for the tablet alone. and i.poasible to find a samsung case on interenet. Any idea which case could fit?
Thank you for your video! Got a lot of infos, i do have here in kenya a ktm 690 enduro, my project is toget a tablet as dashboard, as you know the stock dashboard is very basic, can i plug permanently an obd2? ( i tough of sleep mode type)
Hi do you have any recommendation for the phone navigation device you were talking about in this video? I face the same issue that you mentioned, it is indeed extremely hard to control the phone through touch screen while riding.
Exactly what I wanted to know so many questions addressed here. My main intention is to have a thermal camera on the front of my bike since I struck a deer on my Yamaha, and just hit one with my car a few weeks ago, and probably will add a rear view camera as well. So I figured a tablet was the best option and why would I do that and not have GPS? I own the thermal camera already and have been looking at tablets in earnest this past week. Thanks from USA...
Great set up!! I had been finding out that holder, but so far I dont found anything… do you remember the model? Or rather, do you still have the purchase link!?
Great video ... like you I am using a Tab Active 3. I am on 3rd mount system (tried Quadlock, RAM and now Gamber Johnson). I am really like the GJ mount as neat, lean profile and has security key lock. On a KTM790R I am running a Rade Garage screen and GPS mount bar. On the mount bar running a Rade Garage AMP pattern billet clamp which is connected to GJ mount via a home made ABS plastic plate (VESA pattern) to get the offset (correct centering & height) of the tablet. To fit neatly I am running the GJ mount upside down (with the blue slider bar / key lock on the lower left) - this allows the tablet to be in optimum location and still be able to unlock and clip it out of mount. Like you running Quadlock 90 degree USB waterproof connector cable - works great. Also have Carpe Iter adventure controller (the original version) for Bluebooth zoom, pan and operation of screen from handlebar. I need to upgrade my USB charge source to QC3.0 fast charger in a format that I can hide inside headlight assembly. If anybody is interested send me a note and I can send some pictures. Also run OsmAnd as main application (tailored for Offroad ADV), with Gaia and ExploreOz (Australian) for other references. This has been rock solid, water proof and easy to operate system - really happy ! www.gamberjohnson.com/products/samsung-galaxy-tab-active2active3-lite-cradle
Hello there Steve - Sounds like you have found a perfect setup! I too run the billett clamp that was provided by Rade Garage. Thanks for providing this information for people to see, have a great day!
@@Vytasltu I tried Quadlock adhesive mount on back of tablet (strong adhesive) - it had potential - nice clean minimal solution. However I found on day 1 of a rally I attended it popped at the join of the quadlock socket (on the adhesive mount) and the Quadlock male / plug which was connected to my bike. I think when bike was on a angle / leaning and hitting bumps at force with the tablet weight it rotated off the 0 degree lock key towards 45 degrees and popped off (3 times in the first day). I have heard of one other who is happy and has not have this happen
I have a Garmin Zumo XT and I'm sick an tired of this thing, especially when trying to follow presset tracks the garmin software is very buggy at this. I'm going to build your setup and found all your points quite logic (especially the charging solution) What Charger did you get, anything waterproof also? Any ideas/advise here! Thanks for the very nice video!!
Hi greeting from Indoonesia. New subs and have watched some of your great videos. Wondering if you have had use the remote bluetooth already? I need device recomendation, installation and so on. Thank you
Thanks for the video - I was looking for such a review: detailed enough but not that long. :) Would you be so kind and add the names of the equipment into the description please? It could be much easier to look locally for these products. Thanks!
Happy to hear it was helpful Chris, and thank you for the feedback regarding video length. I will update the description with the information. Tab is Samsung Galaxy Active Tab 3 Holder by Brodit Waterproof UsbC from Quadlock. 🙂
ISO a BMW GSA 1250 mount for this that's plug and play. Like to use the Factory Wiring harness for power. I have seen the Ram mounts anything I am missing?
Hi Johannes, Thks for the good info. 1 question, where and what ip 67 waterproof usb c cable is needed? Can you send me some more details about to charge the tab 3 Regards Richard
No truer word spoken! I switched from brand name GPS systems to an Android phone on my bike. Got tired to be locked in by the GPS lot. Never looked back - even use Google Maps offline and it works 100% - phone blue tooth to my headset, so I can get calls, listen to radio, music etc....
The problem I see is the tablet only has about 400 nits of screen brightness which is low for sunlight viewing in my opinion. My phone has 500 and it is hard to see sometimes, the Garmin Zumo XT has 800 which is always viewable. Now one needs to think about cost when considering these options.
Tenker også å montere active tab3 men er litt bekymret for at den kommer til å slutte å jobbe i veldig høye temperaturer. F.eks i land som Morocco, Tunis etc...
Very useful Info as Im looking for a new Navi setup right now. But Iam missing some Infos. Is the Samsung tab handshoe compatible? Update : I have a Samsung Tab my self now and I can not recomend it because it does not work with regular handshoe on and it is overheating in the sun like a regular Android phone. Brightness is also not the best in the direkt sunlight. 👎
Greetings, I suspect it doesn't get as warm around your home as mine in central US. MyTab A8 is not ruggedized but I have it in a waterproof sleeve and it is held by a robust spring-loaded holder. Have you had any temperature issues with it sitting on the tank being subjected to ambient heat, sunlight, etc? My Zumo was designed to shrug off temp extremes, just curious, thanks! I was thinking possibly a perimeter sunlight deflector of some kind. My riding will be on-pavement long distances.
I see the mount turns quite easily from vertical to horizontal. Does the tablet and the mount move around at all due to bumps or vibrations while you are riding?
Hi Johannes, great video and my Tomtom550 will remain in the drawer as from now😅 Can the tablet charge on a regular 5v USB charger or should I, as you did connect it to 12v. And where precisely did you connect it to a life wire? Un saludo from Spain!
I want to add, that you should remember about battery degradation (it is always in charging mode), it will be happen sooner or later. And if you looking for used device - there is huge possibility, that it is not so waterproof as a brand new one (because of drops/repairs, etc.)
