Motoring Icons: Golf GTI, Audi Quattro & Merc E55 VS their modern alternatives | Fifth Gear 

You're not on your own there. Letting Tiff go was crazy. Fifth Gear will never be the same again. However, the Love Cars RU-vid channel is pretty awesome, so we can still get our Tiff fix.

What, did Tiff punch someone or what's going on?

Tiff was sadly not """diverse""" enough for our modern enlightened media!

@@TheMentalblockrock a highly experienced & professional racer with a great TV manner wasn't suitable then. Crazy to let him go!!

@@kerrysgold1 It's not about that, its about ticking boxes and Tiff ticked none...

Much better than top gear imho

@@KapitanPisoar1 to my mind it’s down to Top Gear focusing on the interplay and drama (however scripted) between the hosts more than Fifth Gear’s more technical numbers focus. It’s about the cars and not the BS.

@@KapitanPisoar1 agree

T V producers think people want to watch “ stars” and “ celebrities “ and “ trendy” people , not someone who knows about cars.

Mow light years ahead of top gear, those new 3 clowns have ruined the whole show! At least Tiffers and Mr Plato have a bit of pazzzas about them and are genuinely having fun, not just in totally unaffordable cars! Great stuff Boys

What happened with Tiff? I basically just watch RU-vid these days so no idea Fifth Gear was still going. Johnny Smith’s Late Brake Show is ace if you haven’t checked it out.

@@timsaxon5825 Tiff became a co-presenter on the RU-vid channel Lovecars. I highly recommend it. Great car content with lovely shot films, and you can't go wrong with Tiff of course. ;)

totally agree with you

Can you explain this comment, please?

@@najidahi7731 fifth gear very unceremoniously fired Tiff from the show because they wanted young fresh blood, and yet. They continue to use his footage from the past to promote their show on RU-vid

everything has a shelf life....

Wine gets better with age...

Agreed, and Tiff could really drive, unlike some of these new muppets.

And looks awesome

@Leo 007 Ohh Yessss 😏 #Quattrofonie 😎♥️

Every video I've seen, the 10 valve version sounded better

@@kristapsvalainis1671 Yes, it's right. MKB: NG, AAB etc. 😎

5 cyl audi s best engine by far, there is nothing which sounds like that engine

That would be epic !!! I can’t stand those two other dorks on top gear 🤮

Chris Harris tiff plato would be awesome for top gear

Check out love cars on youtube ..tiffs new home

Fifth Gear > Top Gear ... Tip Gear is bullshit

Agreed.👍

I'm 53 as well. I know there's numerous car enthusiast programs and channels, with needlessly silly guys hosting - but Needell (soon turning 70) is pretty similar. I find Needell is quite often just as silly at the younger twits. There's enthusiasm - and then there's increasingly doddery pantomime performance. 😒

I'm 34 now, and I'd take the older cars any day too. 😅 Drive a VW Corrado vr6, an old Saab 900 2.1i and a Saab 900ng Convertible. I find it funny how many people still feel 'intimidated' by a bright purple Corrado, wich hasnt even 200hp. As for the old 900... i just like the way it drives. 136hp is enough to have some fun with too.

I’m 19 and I would rather have the old Audi andAMG but not golf

I agree. I would take an 86-87 Countach instead of any newer sportscar, it doesn’t matter if it would be a Koenigsegg or a Bugatti.

​@@tim1polman may you drive a mid 80s e30. 😊

was that her waving the starting flag????

@@TheMentalblockrock no it wasn’t.

It's just spectacular. Less is more.

💯 quality styling it looks fantastic.

My arms and knees would hurt for a week, but my smile would last forever

They make my lower back hurt from how stiff the clutch is if it isn't really fresh. The sound makes up for it though.

Would have been interesting to see them do a second run with the traction control turned off. Pretty sure the results would have been different especially with Tiff in the E55...

Completely true. However, consider other trends in the industry. The advancement of technology is one of them, and that tends to go against what we like regarding car design. Technology progresses logically most of the time, however, humans beings are not logical themselves nor do we have fun in logical ways. Therefore, this explains why we see this unfortunate trend in the car industry.

@@qasimmir7117 Yeah, I can see that. it's just hard to accept it. It's probably me getting old as well I mean I'm 30 this year. On top of that due to the country I live in, unlike most of my fellow 30-year-olds, I had the pleasure to experience cars sans all the modern ABS, Servo, and whatnot. I mean the car I learned to drive on was a Yugo, followed by a golf MK I and a BMW 2002. Granted all were heavily modded with fully adjustable suspension setups, limited-slip diffs, and even a wide-angle kit on the 2002. So they're probably not what you'd consider a baseline, but still, they were far RAWER and I miss that in modern cars. Yes, modern cars are faster and smoother, and have more power, and are easier to control. But that in itself makes them less interesting to me. The 2002 I drove barely made 200 WHP, but damn was it fun. Its top speed was 180, mechanically limited due to the transmission, but doing just 100km/h in that car gave me more of an adrenaline rush than I get in most modern cars going double that.

I agree I don't see why the classic Quattro wasn't up against an A5 Coupe' 2.0 T with quattro and 211 horsepower. Now that would have been a great match up.

@@RaviSingh-ph2uw or why the mk1 gti was paired with a MK7 golf. 30hp difference with a 1.3 thousand pound difference

Yeah they matched them up with baseline models rather than actual modern day equivalents of those icons

@@RaviSingh-ph2uw because the whole point was to see how cars have progressed. If technology has made even the baseline cars able to beat the first-gen high-performance versions of the same cars. Because pitting the classics with their direct modern-day equivalents would have been pointless. Since, for sure the modern-day equivalents would beat the classics. That comparison would be boring and predictable.

Yeah 2 hopes Bob hope and no hope...🙏

£30k minimum unless you want a basket case

Try doubling that again 😑 unobtainable now for most to justifyt as a 2nd car for the weekend lol

More like 50k plus for a nice 20 valver like that 😍

There’s one sitting in our backyard right now!

@@yellowa4725 Really good example low millage try 90 k

@@sikais17 yeah, hagerty's value calculator lists a perfect condition quattro at 85,000 usd, although the racecars are worth much more

This was recorded about 7 years ago. Tiff will never be back.

Yes, you`re right ;)

Just listen to that 4pot diesel! Who would have a v8 instead?

Bet you regret it now with URQ's now anything between 25 - 85k ;-)

@@paredding I do but then again I had an orange MK1 Escort Mexico in the early 80's when my mates had Capris and XR3is. The Mexico was just a smart nippy car but not as smart as an XR3i. Ho-hum :-(

How to you find the cvt?..

@@Shane-zx4ps very smooth in auto, just accelerates away without any lurching and good in manual too. Wife has an auto A6 and that always seems to be in the wrong gear and lurches through changes. Both are good using the paddles.

@@eeeandeee so cvt is better than normal auto. I drive a Lexus is300h with Ecvt and it’s brilliant, but so many haters out there of cvt,s

It's the one they keep rolling out for YT tests...no idea who dreamt up that value - try 35-55k. Similar on the Golf, though IMHO the Mk2 was better

Those headlights look bigger than the rally verison

Yes the gap will be big! But i'll take the old cars, much more people will stick their thumbs up while driving along 👍😉. And much new cars are badly made and don't survive 30 years....

Yeah, I don’t really get why they took the worst versions of each of the new cars rather than their contemporary counterparts ie. Gti and e63 Idk what they could have used for the audi

@@ethanallan1254 The gap would have been too big :) It also show us that today even a base model is as good as the icons were back in the day :)

E55 2004 supercharged m113k is worth around 12k

Electric cars in 10 years time will make all of these cars look obsolete

@@Shane-zx4ps These cars are obsolete right now. It's amazing what the current high-performance electric cars or even the more mundane ones can do. but that's not the point. electric cars won't necessarily be more fun, have that driver connection that enthusiasts pine for, or be full of character like the classics. I think there's a place for both electric cars and classics in the car world.

Agreed. And some proper modern day tires too.