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Motorized Bike Boost Bottle vs Fred Head 

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in this video, i compare the boost bottle mod again the high compression fred head mod. each has their own advantages, but the two together work superbly.
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@riceburner32
@riceburner32 7 лет назад
adjust your idle with the idle screw not the throttle cable,
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 7 лет назад
The "idle screw" is a glorified mix screw
@riceburner32
@riceburner32 7 лет назад
+ThunderHead289 ah, no its not.
@robertsmith5323
@robertsmith5323 7 лет назад
thank you make it fit. there is only one mix adjustment on a NT carb. the needle inside the slide. there is NO OTHER MIX CONTROL except jet size,... but that's not an adjustable "control" accessible from outside the carb.
@ronalddaub3789
@ronalddaub3789 6 лет назад
I'm glad you bicycle guys are getting into the internal combustion engine but I've worked on motorcycles for 50 years. and I've tuned to Two Strokes for just as long I own three of these bicycle engines 1 ,80 and two 50s. nobody that I know of adjust their idle with the adjustment on the cable but you can but it's not the right way the screw on the left raises and lowers the slide... it is not a mixture screw end of story and that vacuum bottle you have on there will eventually make your engine run too lean as it already is the reason a titles faster with the bottle is because you're sucking in more air and making a lean condition
@WarrenFoxJr-ii7qz
@WarrenFoxJr-ii7qz Год назад
I have the same problem. Thanks, now I know what to do.😮😮😮
@dago9096
@dago9096 8 лет назад
if u need to adjust the idle, u need to do it with the idle adjustment screw don't you know that
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
+DANIEL Q thats more of a low speed mix screw and should be used as such to set your carb up for best low end and top end performance
@dago9096
@dago9096 8 лет назад
If my bike stalls on idle I then turn clockwise will open up the carb. If bike has high idle turn counterclockwise.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
turning couterclockwise opens up the screw and richens it. while turning it in leans the carb down, resulting in a higher idle speed. same concept on a holley carburetor, where the mixture screws are adjusted for the highest idle speed then turned 1/4 turns richer. - but the curb idle screw is the actual idle adjustment, just like the slide adjustment on these carbs. some time i will put a vacuum gauge on my bike and demonstrate this.
@dago9096
@dago9096 8 лет назад
+ThunderHead289 the idle screw has nothing to do with rich or lean. if you want to lean or richen the the engine, look inside the carburetor inside the sliding barrel there is a 1 1\2 brass needle that contains a c clip with a few notches. u move the clip up or down and that will give rich or lean
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
that is still not your mix. yes im aware, i run mine one notch richer to protect my engines. again, its not quite how you may perceive it to be. its just like a motorcycle carburetor.
@elliemitchell1686
@elliemitchell1686 4 года назад
That screw just pushes the throttle needle up anyway dosnt it ? I don’t see how the screw and the throttle cable adjustment are any different ? I’m alwYs confused with this
@kurtsmolik2249
@kurtsmolik2249 9 лет назад
Why are you adjusting your idle with the cable? Idle should be adjusted with the idle screw.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
Kurt Smolik definitly should not be. that is the idle air/fuel mix screw. not idle speed screw. experience - i drive a carbed car every day and i make many of the holley carb adjustment videos.
@kurtsmolik2249
@kurtsmolik2249 9 лет назад
That is the idle screw. It controls how far the slide opens and closes. You adjusting the cable is doing the same exact thing. Turn the screw in and it raises the slide. Tighten cable also raises the slide and vise verse. Its not the same as your Holley or most other carbs. This carb only has 1 jet. A main jet. No pilot jet that most other carbs have thus having no af screw. The needle clip controlls your fuel mixture from idle to half throttle. The cable adjustment on top of the carb should only be used to take the slack out of the cable. Not to make carb adjustments.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
hey, fair enough. good work. i just looked at mine and there is a good chance that i am in error.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
i do believe this is a mixture screw of some sort after disassembling my spare carb.
@lindah7534
@lindah7534 8 лет назад
Gotta' love the overall appearance of the bike; with the engine stuffed into it.Now that you've got the Head and Intake optimized, you may want to explore the huge upper rpm gains that a better flowing exhaust (system) with a mathematically correct "tuned expansion" chamber could impart. I'll donate a few bucks for the Rev Limiter. Ha.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
I've been trying to decide on an expansion chamber for awhile now. Need one designed for max low en torque. I don't go over 25 though I can do 38 currently
@daleyoung87
@daleyoung87 3 года назад
The boost bottle isn't doing anything but screwing up your carb adjustment. There is a reason that major manufacturers stopped using them..
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 3 года назад
Yeah, it’s because they all have reed valves - not an open intake port. On an open intake the boost bottle functions as an economizer to dissipated the reversion style intake pulses associated with an open intake port to the crankcase. Thunderhead289 - engineer
@ericellquist7007
@ericellquist7007 4 года назад
Did you have to change the needle setting for either the Hi-Comp head or the boost bottle, or both? Motor sounds great.
@nvrqit9361
@nvrqit9361 8 лет назад
you just have the boost bottle, and the head right? is your carb stock ? or performance carb. any other upgrade in that motor at the time of the video was record thanks
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
+nvrqit nope, sure wasnt outside of the air cleaner
@ronalddaub3789
@ronalddaub3789 6 лет назад
the screw on the side of the carburetor is not anything to do with mixture it , the screw raises and lowers the slide that's what you do to adjust the fine-tuning of the idle not the cable
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 6 лет назад
oh really - go have yourself a look at the slide and turn the screw. tell me what you see.
@melgigz178
@melgigz178 6 лет назад
No expansion chamber ?
@handyrandy111
@handyrandy111 3 года назад
What dose it mean if you pinch the boost bottle hose and it revs up instead of dieing?
@roybray1211
@roybray1211 6 лет назад
Hey bro I need help with my gt6 motor kit I have the # 2 stack carb thing with big filter where should needle be or any thing
@chfar072281
@chfar072281 9 лет назад
When you are adjusting your idle, why do you adjust your throttle cable instead of your carb screw?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
+chfar072281 throttle cable adjustment is % throttle used. adjust it down, your using less of your throttle to idle and thus, less fuel. carb screw is more of a mix screw. as you lean the carb, the idle will rise, as you richen it, the idle will fall. strong misconception here it seems.
@chfar072281
@chfar072281 9 лет назад
If your throttle cable is tightened to the 0 position of your carb slide, does adjusting your carb needle accomplish the same thing?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
it still doesnt, your really adjusting a very primitive slow speed mix circuit. if thats how yours is set up, you have one of two things going on. you have an adjustment up by your throttle that does the same thing. but also you may have a vacuum leak that is sucking in air and you are having to compensate with the throttle opening being very low.
@chfar072281
@chfar072281 9 лет назад
Should I loosen my throttle cable all the way, then adjust my carb, when I reach operating temp, then re-tighten my throttle cable?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
im trying to remember how this all goes together ha, this vid was the last time i rode by bike. adjust your throttle cable so there is no play in your throttle itself, but dont keep tightening after the play is out. do all your actual adjustments at the carb. i personally always had a vacuum leak issues on my stock carb till i sealed if off by having one round of electrical tape around my intake. does that make sense? i show it in my main carb adjustment video.
@steveskouson9620
@steveskouson9620 7 лет назад
ThunderHead289, id a 2 stroke head really a Hemi? What I'm thinking, the famous Hemi designs were about the valve placement, as much as the combustion chamber shape. 2 strokes don't have valves in the head. (You say Detroit Diesel, and I'm going crazy!) :D steve
@robertsmith5323
@robertsmith5323 7 лет назад
hemi stands for HEMISPHERICAL COMBUSTION CHAMBER. so yes,.... these are in fact hemi's. LOL wait till I tell my buddies I got a hemi on my bike!
@Macbruber
@Macbruber 7 лет назад
where did u get that line for the boost bottle
@stoogemalone9304
@stoogemalone9304 3 года назад
That's the air mixture adjustment.
@Lacider
@Lacider 9 лет назад
I wonder how the boost bottle would affect a tuned exhaust pipe, if at all. With that shockwave coming back into the cylinder from the pipe, wouldn't it also hit in the bottle?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
***** im sure it would, it would probably be even worse where the boost bottle might even work better. obviously a set of reeds would work best. but when you can make your own boost bottle for under 5, why not. i bought mine, but i wanted a reference.
@Lumencraft-
@Lumencraft- 7 лет назад
Thanks for the review.
@dimana5460
@dimana5460 6 лет назад
Can please tell where you got your headlight? Thank you.
@janetfox628
@janetfox628 8 лет назад
and can you buy the fuel booster on ebay and do a review maybe because im not sure on how it works
@ScottFichter
@ScottFichter 6 лет назад
Very cool.
@phoenixfx397
@phoenixfx397 6 лет назад
does your chain hit the frame at all my does
@johnymango5177
@johnymango5177 7 лет назад
My bike is just about stock but tops out at 45km with out that head part I have twin boost bottles tho could it be the reason it goes that fast?
@leedunlap92
@leedunlap92 7 лет назад
did u get more power with this boost bottle and is it worth it
@watcheroftheworldwells3294
@watcheroftheworldwells3294 7 лет назад
There no idle adjustment screw only fuel air adjustment screw.
@sparkyparkinson6046
@sparkyparkinson6046 9 лет назад
Good video man. I'm looking to get my first motor bicycle and the main thing I'm worried about it noise. Know any good ways of making a silencer?
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
Sparky Parkinson i have never tried, they run quite a bit of back pressure as is, but if you wanted, you could weld up holes in the exhaust baffling and drilll them out smaller. i dont recommend this.
@Fcreveryoung
@Fcreveryoung 9 лет назад
I have my bike running finally and tbh it is quieter than I had expected. The two stroke 49cc stock exhaust does its job superbly.
@nvrqit9361
@nvrqit9361 8 лет назад
thanks man, what brand engine is that I'm looking to get a gt5 it comes with head high performance carb and match ports I image it will run good I have a very light trek mountain bike what you think?
@mylescharles4158
@mylescharles4158 7 лет назад
nvrqit what's the name of the online store where I can buy this Fred head
@kxlucifer
@kxlucifer 7 лет назад
nvrqit its an ebay engine..reguardless whos the vendor its all the same only diffrences maybe intergraded cdi and external..and maybe diffrence style carb and filther..
@megaice1030
@megaice1030 7 лет назад
what fuel line do you use?
@dannyoutlaw9919
@dannyoutlaw9919 5 лет назад
Hey bud will those BBR heads and carbs fit a Chinese 80/66cc engine I can't get anyone to tell me anything and you seem to know what you are doing... thanks brother
@heathgraham4911
@heathgraham4911 5 лет назад
i believe so, they are all the same
@dannyoutlaw9919
@dannyoutlaw9919 5 лет назад
@@heathgraham4911 thanks buddy
@heathgraham4911
@heathgraham4911 5 лет назад
all good mate
@rimshotrecluse9345
@rimshotrecluse9345 8 лет назад
I totally gave up on the boost bottle. I couldn't not get the bike to idle or run right no matter what i did with that damn thing on there. This was with both a stock NT carb and the upgraded HP carb. Lest we say it is no longer on the bike and now it runs perfect. Problem solved.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
What were your issues? I have run them on 3 different bikes and they have worked awesome
@rimshotrecluse9345
@rimshotrecluse9345 8 лет назад
It just acted funny. It acted almost like it had an air leak with it on there. At idle when I'd rev it up, it would take way to long to come back down. I constantly had to adjust the idle back and forth even after running a while. When I took it off, my throttle response came back and it idled fine. One thing about running it that I noticed even with the boost bottle off is that when i get up to a certain higher rpm the engine kinda bogs for about 2 seconds then kicks back in and runs fine getting up there around top speed. I'm not sure whats up and I've tried everything I can think of. For some reason though in my case it just runs better with the bottle off but it's still not perfect. Is there anything you can think of that might be the problem? Right now I am not using the bottle and have the HP carb installed. With this carb the throttle response is awesome and it idles fine but still has some running issues. By the way. Do you know the torque setting for the head bolts? I have them at 12lbs right now.
@robertsmith5323
@robertsmith5323 7 лет назад
I'm willing to bet money that somewhere along the boost bottle line you had an air leak. somewhere. that is THE classic air leak issue--slow idle return. a pinhole anywhere along the line will be enough to cause your problem,.... brotato chip.
@reallee9385
@reallee9385 5 лет назад
Rimshot Recluse sounds like a dirty spark plug or clean connection from magneto to crank case. Seeing there's oil behind magneto. Clean oil off and sand paper any paint inside magneto compartment
@RundeKatze
@RundeKatze 9 лет назад
I drive a 600cc 2 cylinder rotary valve two stroke engine in my car (Trabant 601 made in the former German Democratic Republic) What do you think about the effect of an boost bottle on this engine? How i should calculate the correct size of the bottle. All the calculators on the internet are made for one cylinder engines.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
+RundeKatze im assuming the vehicle has something like reed valves inside of it, so it is far better than anything a boost bottle could ever do! but do some research and see. whats your top speed btw!?
@RundeKatze
@RundeKatze 9 лет назад
100kph (at full throttle around 110-115)
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
nice, so about 60-70mph.
@RundeKatze
@RundeKatze 9 лет назад
Yes. I don't want a boost bottle for "boost" i just want to reduce the bumpy running of the engine when I am at around 1/8 or 1/4 throttle. And I want a better fuel economy. At the moment I am at around 6l per 100 Kilometers on the freeway. But in the rushour traffic you're at 10l per 100Kilometers. And maybe a boostbottle can help to make the engine running more smooth.
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 9 лет назад
again, do some research on your engine to see if it has any sort of reed valve or anything. if there is nothing, then the boost bottle will work well for what you want it to do. boost bottle is a terrible name, it should be called an economizer bottle. as to the size you need for your engine, you will have to look up the math on that because to be honest, i just dont know. i know these are for the bikes, so i wasnt worried about the math. id imagine yours would be moreso the size of a peanut butter jar.
@5annent
@5annent 8 лет назад
if u had to pick 1] which 1 would u pick?]
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
Boost bottle if your cruising under 25 like I usually do.
@5annent
@5annent 8 лет назад
ThunderHead289 ] ur videos are great] thank you]
@JamesDBuzzard
@JamesDBuzzard 6 лет назад
Link for the head?
@paramandans
@paramandans 7 лет назад
Just wondering what size jet you using?
@carlx2991
@carlx2991 7 лет назад
Dan smith Most likely he is running the stock 70 jet
@COOL_CANADIAN
@COOL_CANADIAN 7 лет назад
would you say the boost bottle gives you extra speed? also if yes by how much? please and thank you :)
@lukehorton1587
@lukehorton1587 5 лет назад
Does anyone know wht song that is in the intro
@reillystsb
@reillystsb 7 лет назад
sounds like you got a air leak
@willcal2738
@willcal2738 2 года назад
lmao all the idle screw comment wars
@timsmith7934
@timsmith7934 4 года назад
u put ur gasss filter in wrong hahahaahahahahahahah
@noelsantos6048
@noelsantos6048 8 лет назад
boost botle don't have anything to do with the high compression head do research anyway i run a reed valve you sound crazy comparing the boost botle with the high performance head
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
+Noel Santos i never said they had anything to do with each other. both are just performance options. and honestly, they both compliment each other very nice in the low rpm range.
@dago9096
@dago9096 8 лет назад
you run Reed valve? how good is this?
@PhysiqueGeek
@PhysiqueGeek 5 лет назад
Ahh u have no idea how carbs work do you? Lol. All youre adjusting there is the throttle cable not the idle circuit
@janetfox628
@janetfox628 8 лет назад
try upgrading to a dellorto or dellorto remake carb
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
I'm pondering that. Thing rips pretty good the way it is. Carbs are my specialty.
@Waxxumus
@Waxxumus 8 лет назад
+ThunderHead289 go to thatsdax.com and buy his 15 dollar clone
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
when this summer comes around and if i get back into it, i will give it a shot. a well tuned stock carb rips pretty good from my experience thus far. especially on the bottom end
@robertsmith5323
@robertsmith5323 7 лет назад
a dialed in stock NT carb is the best option ive seen. the other carbs out there are one headache after another until you smash it against a wall,...... and put your stock NT back on. the dellorto,..however,..is superior. but these bikes are cheapo chinko. why put a expensive work of art on the wall of a wooden shithouse?
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@janetfox628
@janetfox628 8 лет назад
motorized bike fuel boost is what its called
@ThunderHead289
@ThunderHead289 8 лет назад
I'll have to look that up. Obviously I have the boost bottle. If it's a nitrous kit then don't use it. It's a fuel oxygenator and you have no way to inject fuel so you'll have an extremely lean condition. That equals a blown engine
@Westhelockpicker
@Westhelockpicker 2 года назад
you need an exhaust not a stupid boost bottle
@COOL_CANADIAN
@COOL_CANADIAN 7 лет назад
Does anyone know what the boost bottle do?
@Camploner
@Camploner 6 лет назад
Thats not a fred head its a junk knock off.
@reallee9385
@reallee9385 5 лет назад
Dean Klass he said it was a knock off Mr dumass
@timsmith7934
@timsmith7934 4 года назад
i no
@josephtaverna1287
@josephtaverna1287 6 лет назад
Ford first on race day fast on race day and last but certainly not least ferocious on race day no damn joke Chevrolet
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