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@mschnur
@mschnur 9 лет назад
From back in the days when Porsche would de-content a car for performance and then actually charge less for it.
@bluestudio67
@bluestudio67 9 лет назад
Indeed. Now, if you want more performance and less weight/Less luxury, car makers charge you more. It's the "special edition" syndrome
@enricofumi8072
@enricofumi8072 8 лет назад
+bluestudio67 yes, now we must pay more for having less. fred flinstone's car would be worth a fortune!
@enricofumi8072
@enricofumi8072 7 лет назад
then they can charge those same things as extra!
@bluestudio67
@bluestudio67 7 лет назад
Truth. Want a radio? You have to buy the "Technology Package," at a cost of $3,200. But hey, you get LED headlights, so...
@JMartinni
@JMartinni 7 лет назад
That's only a half truth though. While I'm sure they charge some premium, compare a GT3 RS with a Carrera 2 today and you'll certainly find that the RS is not a Carrera without a/c and infotainment.
@robtankbuster5215
@robtankbuster5215 5 лет назад
Love it, memories of long lost Saturdays watching Motorweek with my dad.
@1234krise
@1234krise 3 года назад
This used to be out on TV?
@robtankbuster5215
@robtankbuster5215 3 года назад
@@1234krise yea and still comes on Sat PBS.
@fernandorocha8459
@fernandorocha8459 10 месяцев назад
@@1234krise I love Motor Week Retro Reviews, i watch since September 2009
@pcarfan944
@pcarfan944 9 лет назад
Two years ago you could buy a RS America for 30-40k. Now they are north of 100k! Thanks for the upload.
@BornToBeFamed
@BornToBeFamed 8 лет назад
Exactly pissed me off ! I was looking forward to until i saw they are a 100k now
@andream.464
@andream.464 4 года назад
And now it's200k lol
@Zircemerald
@Zircemerald 9 лет назад
Wait, Porsche used to make stripped down models of their cars...and charged LESS??? Impossibru!
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 7 лет назад
Still, 3 times the price of a Camaro for the same performance...
@iconictk2878
@iconictk2878 6 лет назад
BuzzLOLOL but you see camaros everyday, its about exclusivity
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL 6 лет назад
It's about fast fun cheap...
@jimmygrant3212
@jimmygrant3212 6 лет назад
BuzzLOLOL lol and it’s front engined and doesn’t handle near as well and the Porsche has way better build quality…
@no1DdC
@no1DdC 5 лет назад
Just coincidentally, they went almost bankrupt in the early '90s...
@drphilgarner
@drphilgarner 9 лет назад
Absolutely love these old reviews, keep em coming!
@bliglum
@bliglum 7 лет назад
So this was back before Porsche figured out that they could charge their customers MORE money for less amenities : )
@oreally8605
@oreally8605 2 года назад
Still worth every penny
@fredbobberts5753
@fredbobberts5753 6 лет назад
There are no bad Motorweek reviews. These are so good, thumbs up!
@Deanyfromtheburgh
@Deanyfromtheburgh 8 лет назад
The V8 starting up at the beginning of every MotorWeek road test sounds like it's got just enough battery power to start-up,and no more!
@OlderthanIlookyoungerthanIfeel
High compression , my old 75 Ranchero had so much torque and compression that just a tiny out of timing and the starter couldn't even turn the engine over .
@ahope4u2
@ahope4u2 4 года назад
High compression and large cubic inch block engine , I heard that starting sound often in my younger years.
@nattadam4171
@nattadam4171 4 года назад
If I remember correctly they said that it was a 5.0 mustang don't remember what year.
@wernerbloemwagen6878
@wernerbloemwagen6878 4 года назад
Yes - old farm truck used once a month for supplies from town - battery never gets charged enough
@tomasnokechtesledger1786
@tomasnokechtesledger1786 3 года назад
Yeah, man, that sucks! Occurs to me Everytime I hear it! Ethanol cars use 13:1 compression and up. The batteries aren't that sluggish.
@taforth
@taforth 5 лет назад
Brian Redman was an unexpected treat! It would be nice to see your drivers exhibit this level of car control 😉.
@energyasylum997
@energyasylum997 Год назад
Every Porsche design is a work of art, imo, but I love the look of this model! Beautiful
@stillsearching1284
@stillsearching1284 4 года назад
This would have been the Porsche to buy in 1993. Get it in red. Pass on the sunroof, but option the limited slip differential.
@JerryC25
@JerryC25 9 лет назад
These uploads make a dull day a tad more exciting. Thank you lol
@PorscheRacer14
@PorscheRacer14 8 лет назад
Brian Redman!! Wow, a legend testing the Porsche out. I wonder if he was on loan with the car since by that time he was well associated with Porsche?
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt 8 лет назад
And I don't think I've ever seen anyone have so much fun on Motorweek.
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver 4 года назад
I hung out with Brian at the Porsche Rennsport Reunion several years ago. He had raced a Gulf 917K at Laguna Seca - amazing driver sideways through the corkscrew!
@masterkang1024
@masterkang1024 9 лет назад
$18.10 per lb? Shit that's cheaper than filet mignon. I need to start saving
@NeoS281
@NeoS281 9 лет назад
These are nicely equipped rare 911's. The value of these keep appreciating. Surprisingly, the Mazda RX7 of the same vintage matched the 0-60 and quarter mile. Thanks for posting Ben!
@jesuschristpose896
@jesuschristpose896 2 года назад
Love that we can watch these vids on RU-vid, I remember watching these shows on Saturday.
@timmietz
@timmietz 9 лет назад
140mph at Roebling Road's front straight with only 247bhp?! Now, that's impressive! His speed coming out of that long sweeper must have been extremely high to be up to 140 at the end of the straight. My CLK63 did 144 with 500bhp there. Low weight and a pro driver really do make a difference! Lol!!
@tbain5257
@tbain5257 5 лет назад
sold my 93 RS for $50k to buy a house. I was sad until I remembered that house is worth $900k more than I paid for it. Thank you “America” I will be
@jpadicecoffee9812
@jpadicecoffee9812 4 года назад
My favorite Porsche video, MW is my favorite car channel. Awesome looking car, made just for driving.
@jacobbarros8849
@jacobbarros8849 9 лет назад
"Ultra Slim Fast" That throws me back!
@mschnur
@mschnur 9 лет назад
Jacob Barros Just a shake for breakfast, one at lunch...
@sidefx996
@sidefx996 9 лет назад
+Maindrian Pace ...and then a sensible dinner haha
@LMacNeill
@LMacNeill 6 лет назад
My father-in-law bought one of these brand-new in '93. He sold it a few years back... For enough to buy a lake house! Seriously -- these things appreciated in value a *bunch* .
@sp0228
@sp0228 5 лет назад
I love how he talks so much about weight savings, but never says what the vehicle weighs. 2954lbs if anyone is wondering...
@SportsMusicCars
@SportsMusicCars Год назад
1:00 'think of it as the ultra slim fast of Porsches'. Davis has always needed some slim fast... lololol
@chriscornelius2518
@chriscornelius2518 7 лет назад
How about the 1994 speedster? These are all just beautiful cars. There are no cars that look like a 911 and those wheels are just wow.
@chuckselvage3157
@chuckselvage3157 2 года назад
I always liked Porsche especially the 917,959,and 911 brilliant cars.
@alfamonk
@alfamonk 9 лет назад
great review!! I miss the air-cooled sound of the 911...sounds meaty
@chadbailey7038
@chadbailey7038 2 месяца назад
Ok. I’m sold! ✅ 👍🏾.
@epistte
@epistte 8 лет назад
This was the last 911 that I really wanted to own. The KISS edition.The Brian Redman lap is amazing.
@SpyderRios
@SpyderRios 7 лет назад
Back to the days when less money, meant more car in the eyes of an enthusiast. I also remember when Ford had their Hatchback Mustang GT at higher price than the lighter and faster Notchback.
@rasmusgarbonzo1411
@rasmusgarbonzo1411 2 года назад
that is insane lol
@OmegaSwitch
@OmegaSwitch 9 лет назад
Definitely the 964 to have, even though I think the 964 Turbo is underappreciated, living in the shadows of the masterpiece that was the 993 Turbo. I'd take this over any post-993 911... with the exception of a 996 GT3, that is.
@iconictk2878
@iconictk2878 6 лет назад
Robert Millsop the 993 gt3 is so secy
@iconictk2878
@iconictk2878 6 лет назад
Robert Millsop sexy*
@seinsmeld13
@seinsmeld13 9 лет назад
Nice helmet Ben!
@1SaG
@1SaG 7 лет назад
Ahhh... the 964. The second 911-model I'd think about getting if I already had an original, pre-1973 911. Even though this America RS thing always was a bit of a joke. The Euro 964 RS or the standard C2 are the ones you really want, IMO. Still... even in this form, I love the 964's small size and lightness and how they were able to retain most of the original lines/design while still offering a much more modern car. Another reason you gotta love the 911 these days is that it's probably the one car that best illustrates the stupid trend for cars to become bigger and bigger with every new generation. It's not uncommon over here to see G-models, 964s or 993s side by side with current 991s in traffic and the 991 looks like a damn truck in direct comparison.
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 Год назад
Indeed. 993 looks bigger because the rear is so much wider but it's actually not bigger at all. 964 is a few millimeters higher and longer. They're tiny cars. But 964 and 993 are the pinnacle of Porsche design, in my opinion. I can only afford a 996 myself (which is a great car for the money) but I'm the first one to admit it's a bit ugly compared to the classics. Cheers.
@nolanohana
@nolanohana 7 лет назад
Wickedly collectable
@SaraSpruce
@SaraSpruce 3 года назад
A 964 Carrera RS is my ultimate dream car. The RS America is a close second.
@datsie14
@datsie14 4 года назад
great time to be in the market wow
@noseefood1943
@noseefood1943 6 лет назад
all that weight savings but still retained the sun roof?
@IsitReallyrealreally
@IsitReallyrealreally 5 лет назад
Perfect!!
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 3 года назад
Yeah strange, at least 80lbs extra and right on the highest point of the body
@18000rpm
@18000rpm 3 года назад
Optional.
@nateisright
@nateisright 2 года назад
Did you see how fast it was?! That’s no ordinary sunroof!
@boostedsaleen6146
@boostedsaleen6146 4 года назад
The car today is worth 100k -120k that was good investment if bought one then .
@rigofd4753
@rigofd4753 7 лет назад
Finally! someone got normally aspirated right.
@giantman
@giantman 9 лет назад
Sweet Juice!
@erikhertzer8434
@erikhertzer8434 5 лет назад
Surprised a powered sun roof was even an option on a lightened 911...
@BKofficer23
@BKofficer23 9 лет назад
Did the government entities take better care of the roads back then? Motorweek seems to have found all these roads with no other drivers yet no pot holes. Couldn't fathom driving a Porsche on "country roads" where I am. I only live a couple hours away from Owings Mills, Maryland.
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt 8 лет назад
We have roads like that in North Carolina.
@BKofficer23
@BKofficer23 8 лет назад
I've only been to Charlotte, and the roads in general were very nice. Is the whole state that nice? Even unpopular back roads?
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt 8 лет назад
+BKofficer23 of course some are better than others but in general our roads, including the back roads are in pretty good shape.
@BKofficer23
@BKofficer23 8 лет назад
Jeff DeWitt NC is on my short list of places I'm considering moving!
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt 8 лет назад
BKofficer23 It's a great place to live, that's why so many people keep moving here.
@kwamedavis7634
@kwamedavis7634 4 года назад
this car goes hard !!
@SportsMusicCars
@SportsMusicCars Год назад
He's going 140mph... I've only been that fast on a 4 lane highway with no one else around at 2am lol
@TheSuperMotoHooligan
@TheSuperMotoHooligan 9 лет назад
sweet machine...
@hertzair1186
@hertzair1186 4 года назад
Need to replace that battery in the intro...
@Anderson-ky6ps
@Anderson-ky6ps Год назад
Caraca que carro da hora Porsche desse é meu sonho de prazer dirigir sensacional 👍👍👍😁😁
@MIKEZG
@MIKEZG Год назад
nice car
@twirlygirly
@twirlygirly 9 лет назад
The 280z was the car you got when what you really wanted was a 911. In retrospec though, what you really wanted was a Hayabusa, as both these cars were a bad paradigm and an impossible engine to work on crammed in like sardines.
@recpro7847
@recpro7847 8 лет назад
My 2004 turbo Mazda 3 I built put up almost the same numbers. Four door hatch NOT gutted. It was less than 20k with the turbo kit. Times changed fast!
@guthrie1181
@guthrie1181 8 лет назад
lol why didn't you just buy a speed3?
@recpro7847
@recpro7847 8 лет назад
I built mine before the MS3 came out... And mine was faster :). I have a 1/4 mile time slip where I raced one.
@guthrie1181
@guthrie1181 8 лет назад
Rec Pro What time and how much wheel horsepower and torque?
@recpro7847
@recpro7847 8 лет назад
14.2 @ 104 we figure it was close to 300hp
@guthrie1181
@guthrie1181 8 лет назад
+Rec Pro Not bad. Probably driver skill determined the outcome of that race
@murk1352
@murk1352 3 года назад
It comes with thinner glass too! Which they failed to mention. The wheels should be made from magnesium too! I'm surprised it had A/C & a sunroof...? Usually those are no no's in RS's....👍❤🏁
@fredsalfa
@fredsalfa 2 года назад
5.4 for 0-60 time was quite quick for the day even today it’s a quick time
@tomasnokechtesledger1786
@tomasnokechtesledger1786 3 года назад
Lindo. But a stripe for door handle and a sunroof?
@shawncweed
@shawncweed 9 лет назад
I love this car...and these retro reviews...funny...the performance results are identical to our 2004 S2000...and my M6 leaves it like its anchored at the dock...how times change
@detonator2112
@detonator2112 Год назад
Yeah but who cares about the performance numbers anymore. 964 RS America is a $200.000 car now. Your 2004 S2000 is worth a little more than nothing. Very nice car though.
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials 9 лет назад
Was this the last year JD said the actual year after his intro "welcome to motorweek"
@91Taurus
@91Taurus 9 лет назад
Looks like they used the year in the title from 1988-93
@oscardriver
@oscardriver 4 года назад
I swear my 997 does still have the same weird treats
@ironymatt
@ironymatt 5 лет назад
Doesn't the sunroof option defeat the purpose of the RS trim?
@skiraf
@skiraf 5 лет назад
130mph drift ,,, :-)
@l2positionuno268
@l2positionuno268 4 года назад
I would love to see Porsche use this same package now. Carrera engine, no exotic materials, take out all nonessentials and add sport suspension, tires, and wheels.
@j.3854
@j.3854 4 года назад
“After removing everything non essential they could......they....” ADDED A SUNROOF. SMH
@TheOzthewiz
@TheOzthewiz 4 года назад
The Driver has to have SOME fresh air!
@JohnSmith-in1tt
@JohnSmith-in1tt 4 года назад
Sunroofs along with the A/C and radio were optional. They didn't come with the car unless you chose to add them in for more money when buying the car new. That example just happened to have all the options probably because it was a press car
@abboudab6794
@abboudab6794 9 лет назад
Funny how the 89 944 Turbo posted some very similar numbers...
@anonymoususer6683
@anonymoususer6683 5 лет назад
Cutting down weight but adding a sunroof is ridiculous.
@gracien2008
@gracien2008 4 года назад
Porsche Executives were laughing their wallets off in Acapulco...ha ha ha they actually bought it ! 😁🤗😄😂😎
@pauljrcarty9314
@pauljrcarty9314 3 года назад
This is actually how to drive a Porsche.
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 3 года назад
I'd drive one
@zachmarkham84
@zachmarkham84 8 лет назад
Saw one today, a 1994
@porscheguy09
@porscheguy09 6 лет назад
These days a 911 like this with less equipment and a lightweight sportier design costs a lot more than a standard Carrera. Back then if it had less the price was less as well. Now days less is more.
@driveri1435
@driveri1435 5 лет назад
But the rear seat WAS the parcel shelf.
@roddydykes7053
@roddydykes7053 5 лет назад
5:40 is that ever a cool concept, take a high performance car and sell it for 20% cheaper just by removing unnecessary items, Modern cars would add that value back in by adding a more powerful engine, bigger brakes, different suspension etc
@davecombs3402
@davecombs3402 4 года назад
Far out man!!!
@spale999
@spale999 5 лет назад
lol, in present day's, they took everything out and charge you double price:D
@Adamoda14
@Adamoda14 8 лет назад
Ultra slim fast? I never heard of that oil.
@andersonfirmino8925
@andersonfirmino8925 3 года назад
Porsche vermelha é muito bonito cor replica boa 👍👍👍🇧🇷🇧🇷
@andersonfirmino8925
@andersonfirmino8925 3 года назад
Sempre sensacional 🙂🙂😀
@SolamenteVees
@SolamenteVees 4 года назад
No door handles to save weight. Adds power moonroof.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 8 лет назад
Wow 964 RS - an icon. :) Nearly as good as an NSX Type R, nearly ;).
@petrolbokehlicious
@petrolbokehlicious Год назад
What a concept! Charging less for less equipment! No wonder Porsche was going under back then. Well, lesson learned. Always charge more for less equipment, otherwise financial doom will ensue.
@Gorilla_Jones
@Gorilla_Jones 7 лет назад
I still remember 19 years ago you could buy these for nothing.
@mikeclay6089
@mikeclay6089 9 лет назад
My dad used to have one and he sold it a while ago. I'm so mad at him.
@Spartan168
@Spartan168 8 лет назад
+Michael Clay holy fuck what a mistake. make him get a 930 turbo
@JeffDeWitt
@JeffDeWitt 8 лет назад
Hmm..... right before you got your drivers licence?
@myname9252
@myname9252 7 лет назад
Who ever bought one of these made a good move. Cheapest one on cars.com runs for 54k, thats with 107,000 miles. Next one is 119,000k and goes up from there.
@actionmethod
@actionmethod 9 лет назад
LSD was an optional extra on a proper sports car?
@actionmethod
@actionmethod 9 лет назад
For lap times and such it's most likely no significant difference b/w the two. But a sports car ought to draw 11's when you floor it in my mind. =/
@IschChef
@IschChef 7 лет назад
911s with a manual don't have that even today. It is just not needed.
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver 4 года назад
Rear motor 911 doesn’t miss it. Only if you’re racing the Monte Carlo rally in winter. Vic Elford wrote about exactly that in his driving book. 🏁
@n-r1-s-7_9_6
@n-r1-s-7_9_6 5 лет назад
😘
@XR4turbo
@XR4turbo 9 лет назад
He said "power hard-on" :)
@sibusisovilakazi2825
@sibusisovilakazi2825 Год назад
Everyone knows, Porsche 👑 is King 👑
@TheGtracer1994
@TheGtracer1994 9 лет назад
Oh wow, Porsche actually stripped the car out and charged less for it. What a difference compared to today
@NorceCodine
@NorceCodine Год назад
When you pay $50 grand for a car that has a $1.30 plastic strap for door handle.
@daniels7862
@daniels7862 6 лет назад
Ahhh the days when Porsche gave you less and also charged you less. Now they charge you MORE for less.
@scdevon
@scdevon 5 лет назад
The last good years for German cars.
@grandizer4531
@grandizer4531 6 лет назад
This car is for the pros....
@TheTallMan50
@TheTallMan50 8 лет назад
247 HP? That's only 23 more horses than my '07 Saturn Aura! My how things have changed.
@Madmanmarque
@Madmanmarque 8 лет назад
Yeah, pretty funny. An entry level Boxster has the same HP and times.
@TheTallMan50
@TheTallMan50 8 лет назад
At the rate we're going in 20 more years an entry level Honda Civic will have over 300 HP and all licensed drivers will be required to take high performance driving courses.
@Madmanmarque
@Madmanmarque 8 лет назад
The thing I find much different about cars of that era and older is the fun factor. I had a '71 911T and it was like a go kart. I've driven a Mclaren 650S recently and while it's performance is blinding, it wasn't as much fun to drive. The computer does most of the work to keep pleebs like me from killing themselves in 600+ HP cars.
@TheTallMan50
@TheTallMan50 8 лет назад
600 HP?? The Stig would crash something like that.
@VaughnJogVlog
@VaughnJogVlog 7 лет назад
Porsche or Saturn, which brand is still around?
@shitstain7137
@shitstain7137 6 лет назад
this was john davis' obese phase
@hydarail6477
@hydarail6477 7 лет назад
man cars was so cheap back them compare to today we need more cheaper cars like this this day
@vnitto
@vnitto 9 месяцев назад
3:43 😝
@Gorilla_Jones
@Gorilla_Jones 4 года назад
Fuck I could have bought this back in the day before they catapulted into the stratosphere.
@carypyke935
@carypyke935 Год назад
A sunroof is the one thing this car should NOT have....
@tonkatoytruck
@tonkatoytruck 5 лет назад
Porsche had a lot of competition back then and its performance was far from the top of the food chain. You had to be a die hard Porsche fan boy to rationalize its purchase against much quicker cars of the day.
@BornToBeFamed
@BornToBeFamed 8 лет назад
This car goes for 100k now a days .
@GabeClendenning
@GabeClendenning 8 лет назад
more
@TheOzthewiz
@TheOzthewiz 4 года назад
For THAT kind of money, I would be looking at a 2020 Shelby Mustang GT500! Doing the 0-1320ft run in about 11.5seconds at 130mph, would be quite exhilarating!
@04dram04
@04dram04 8 лет назад
its so ridiculous how many people are fooled by porsche, into paying more money for less car.
@codydog45
@codydog45 8 лет назад
+04dram04 your a joke
@sk7172
@sk7172 8 лет назад
+04dram04 Lambo does the same thing... and whats that in your profile pic? lol All major sports and supercar manufacturers do the same thing. Ferrari, Aston Martin... the list is endless.
@sk7172
@sk7172 8 лет назад
Plus if you watched the video they said this was the CHEAPEST 911 available at the time.
@verdeboyo
@verdeboyo 8 лет назад
+04dram04 You really have no clue at all. Less is more for the obvious reasons you don't grasp. Less to go wrong, and race ready without having to strip bits off. We are proud to own such race bred cars. Euro version 'RS' doesn't even have headlight washers or electric door mirrors, and I would jump at the chance to own one. Nobody is being fooled - only your attitude is foolish!
@bertharris9748
@bertharris9748 7 лет назад
All the cars you compare this to are depreciating as you read this whereas this RS America is on the rise, Bigly
@BornToBeFamed
@BornToBeFamed 8 лет назад
Rather have a 911 964
@VirusTornado
@VirusTornado 7 лет назад
This is a 964 -.-
@NYHeeb
@NYHeeb Год назад
54grand new. Wish had the money then definitely don't have the money now. I will own a 911 but it won't be a 993 unless win lottery.
@BMan100
@BMan100 9 лет назад
and as usual with Porsche...they make you buy the car...live the parts on the shelf...then....charge you more...
@OmegaSwitch
@OmegaSwitch 9 лет назад
BMan100 "10,000 dollars less expensive than a normal Carrera 2"
@BMan100
@BMan100 9 лет назад
Robert Millsop I'm talking about today lol
@hyperlogos
@hyperlogos 9 лет назад
BMan100 With this car you want either all of the options... or none of 'em
@BMan100
@BMan100 9 лет назад
Martin Espinoza true....As mucha s I like porsche.. I think I will stick with the Challengers....8o I used a dirty word lol
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