Mountain Bikers vs Gravel Bikers 

What’s wrong with that?

​@@lamp7746they're the worst type of biker

@@topgbiking how come

@@topgbikingwhy?

Just got home from a ride where I almost hit a woman on a fat bike head on because she was weaving all over the road. Fat bikes have terrible handling and attract people who don't ride often, so they're usually a double whammy of out of control

Cannondale M700 is a gravel bike...

If all you do is singletrack then yeah MTB is great. I like my gravel bike because it feels zippy on rail trails, fire roads and asphalt

your MTB in the 90s was basicly a racing frame made fit for offroad ?

@@graysun9108 Yep.

The jokes getting boring. They don't have anything in common.

I also ride fat bike like dang bro 😢

I think the double looks more like his wife. 🤷🏼‍♂️

That's an important part of the job.

That’s just a Colorado stache. Common in those parts…

@@Hihopeyouhaveawonderfulday Fr most bikers and skiers i know have them at that age. 😂

Still is, for the drop bar crowd!

I find anything less than 780mm unthinkable, 790 FTW. Going downhill puts you in a push-up position, where would you want your hands? Thanks to dropper posts, we no longer have to move so rearward when descending. Dropper posts were a game changer for mountain bike geometry.

750 is perfect

It depends on shoulder width and what grips you're using, but 760-800 is the window for current mountain bikes, maybe less if you're racing or sticking to easier terrain, or riding narrow trails in wooded areas. I would never buy a bar less than 780mm with today's "rider forward" geo.

​@@jamesmcmann8536If want to straight air everything go for it

I ride 800 and I’m short

What a goat

I’m 45 and I ride gravel. Some people just learn slower. Enjoy the gravel when you get there.

So you made a GTBruiser!

@@brandonhoffman4712 I ended up OTBing and bending the bars. They've since been replaced with some Ritchey venturemax bars

Haha! It's all in good fun. My buddy has been trying to get me out on a ride for a while. Next time it snows I'll hit up tahoe for an adventure!

@@CaliradoKid Well have fun when you go for that ride! And keep up the great content!

​@CaliradoKid you won't regret it 3 in absolutely shred in snow an sand

😂😂😂

I haven't ridden in snow and little sand, but fat tires soak up massive chunk like nothing else! 5psi!

That's me 😅

Yup, my 19lbs hardtail XC bike laughs at both. ;)

When people say they want a bike to ride around on mixed surfaces, I always say to get an XC bike. If you can only have one bike and you mostly ride road but do some gravel and mild singletrack, then I can see why you'd want a gravel bike with 2 wheel sets. Otherwise, can an XC bike. It may not be as fast on the road, but it'll handle far more rougher terrain, opening up more tracks for the rider.

​@@SniperSpec0ps drop the spec sheet gyat damnnn

ATB dropbar 29er with 2.25“ tires in the middle. Stargazer or Fargo or la Cabra or Sutra LTD ❤

IKR I'm back to 2.5 "They call this a $100 tyre?"

Rocking 27.5+ x 2.80, the flow trail is wild.

Fat biking is accepting new recruits! 😅

^ Ya then you could go 5.0 and sing that song to yourself, or to us! KRS-ONE - Sound of da police.

You can get Gravel Bikes with normal handlebars, that's my next bike

@@FranzFridl Yeah that's pretty much what my new bike is, gravel bike with flat bars.

Fitness bikes are gravel bikes with flat bars. I've heard the drop bars are better for longer distance and for aerodynamics which mean quite a bit for bikes. I only have a full suspension bike right now (2014 Trek remedy 7). It was given to me by my step father. I'm riding it every other day, I'm up to 30 mile stretches (just hit that goal), my next goal is 50 mile rides, i just bought a new seat and a light system. I typically ride no hands for better aero, particularly into the wind. The bike is insane! I can ride no hands on grass for 50 yards, even over the concrete water valve boxes in the ground... I want a drop bar bike bad. The only drop bar bike I ever owned was a classic schwinn my grandma gave me back in the day. I actually liked that bike a lot even though the frame was too small for me. My childhood biking was BMX. As far as the clothes, I have 0 intention on wearing those roadie shorts. But only time will tell, aero is aero is aero... For now it's Fox pants and dakine padded undies.

Mountain bikes got so crazy they left a gap to be filled on normal trails. I can ride my full suspension bike with no hands on the grass and through pot holes. If I see an orange on the street I ride over it with no hands too! The only reason I'm riding the mtb is because it was given to me for free and it's the only bike I own. If I had a gravel bike, my mtb would be collecting dust, having me considering giving it to my brother.

I know right? Most everything is either stored on the bike or in a pack or some sort. I have maybe an energy bar with maybe 3 or 4 empty pockets.

lots of snacks

Band aids

Our ego

They just look cool

I didn't get a chance to ride it this time but that thing was gorgeous!

sure

@@vinnerdinner sure

Oooh....a new trail detector. You may be onto something here...

Almost correct but no cigar. Gravel bikers are actually roadies who are too scared to ride on the road.

Exactly. And that’s the way we like it.

​@@automotive474 you're 100% right. Plus you get nicer scenerie and get to have a lot of fun on easy trails. Oh and you're not much slower than on a roadbike, so road riding is still fun. ...damn, I just realized I need one.

Gravel Bikers are roadies who actually commute through their bike through potholes, asphalt stitch works and unpaved paths. And the most popular choice for touring. Better choice than thin roadies for those who want to upgrade from hybrid bikes and coasters.

​@@automotive474you're both right to some extent, but they're also mountain bikers trying to stay active during shoulder season.

Assegai comes in 2.5, sooooo 2.5 is best lol!

Youre a fat biker if you run anything bigger than 2.5 my friend. Accept it lol

For mtb yes but climb an actual mountain or snowy roads on the way to work in the alps here i prefer fat tires

Bro do you not have a car what do you mean you climb mountains on the way to work. @@octobinck1176

Nah that’s way too wide. 2.4-2.6 is the best. A lot of bikes can’t even fit 2.8 tires

Depends on the meters up and down, if you cycle 32km with 1500+ meters up and down on S2+ trails i would say yeah that is quite a day, ofc if you only have 200-300 meters up/down and on some gravel roads thats nothing.

yea. I ride a fatbike (4.4inch tires) and my usual rides are 25-40km. I call rides long when they are like 50-100km :D And i dont ride roads. Forest, bike trails, ups and downs.

@@tobias834 I'm out in Wiltshire, UK. 300m is just the climb up toward Salisbury Plain on the out ride. Depending on the route there can be over 1000m of climbing spread out through the ride on roads, fire roads and through woodland trails.

@@andrewince8824when I bike in the alps and do some highs and trails I usually have 10 km/h average or lower (no eBike) Plus some stops for a break/lunch and fotos/scenery, it’s at least 5h spend. So maybe 35km is not really a FULL day like cycling from 8am to 8pm but a nice ride. Longest ride in one day for me was 200km but without much elevation.

@@tobias834 the alps are a different beast altogether. You can't rush anywhere that beautiful.

Look at the Poseidon X Ambition.

They are not the same.

I have an XC and a gravel, its a huge difference, gravel is nearly as fast as road bike on tarmac plus it can pack a lot so i can do bike packing for a good week

Gravelbike is slightly faster and possibly more comfortable on long distance riding.

Niner MCR 9 RDO

They are dangerous on the road too and make squeezing past pedestrians very annoying

Haha! Yea I'm not sure but I'd have to assume it was gradual. I honestly think 800mm is too wide. But some swear by it.

if you ride the mtb "propper" then you have a lot of meters up and down, 1000 to 1500 is not a problem and then down on maybe not so easy terrain... Sure if you bike the same route gravel and MTB its not a big difference (i rod emy XC and my gravel 100km one way)

Not that hard non a non-electric gravel bike unless the climbs are completely very steep on very loose gravel

...ooooorrrr it's for road bikers dipping their toes into mountain biking?!😂

@@CaliradoKid go full send! Make the change, you'll never go back to that evil!

Been Mountain Biking since the Early 90’s and I’m just getting into gravel biking. Never been a roadie but the dirt appeal and being able to cover a decent amount of territory has me sold!

@@CaliradoKid when are you going to trestle?

Depends on what you're riding. It certainly can be.

@@plmn93 sure but the statement 20 miles is much is wrong

@@Hehe-sc7hj It's true in most of the places where I ride. Probably true where he rides too.

Road bikes can’t handle some of the bigger tires. Road bikes also don’t have 1by (yet) which is a great option for most gravel/dirty roads where you’d use a gravel bike.

That's what I was thinking! 80 miles of gravel is a full day's outing. I usually bring over 1k of calories in various forms whenever I do that many miles of good gravel. Depending on how gnarly the terrain is, that's equivalent of a full century on a road bike, or even more! Who are these people that just casually pump out 80 miles? Unless it's easy, rail trail gravel, I can't imagine it.

@@Greyghostvol1 I did 130 km = ~ 80 miles some weeks ago in 5 Hours driving time (1,5h breaks) Its not that hard, i could add maybe 20 more miles. But i was at my destination so i enjoyed the city and went back via train :)