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Mr. Darcy: Pagan Hero? Jane Austen July 2023 

Beatrice Scudeler
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Hello everyone and welcome back to Lady Disdain Reads. My name is Beatrice, and this is my first Jane Austen July video for this year, in which I talk about Mr. Darcy, pagan vs. Christian virtues, and Dante's Divine Comedy. I hope you enjoy it and check this channel for more Austen content later in the month!
Gilbert Ryle's 'Jane Austen and the Moralists'
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My previous videos on Jane Austen, Aristotle, and the virtues:
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Jane Austen and the Philosophy of the Virtues
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Morality without Faith?
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Комментарии : 22   
@HeyAllyHey
@HeyAllyHey Год назад
Congratulations 🎊 I love your discussion videos so bring ‘em on 😊😅
@KierTheScrivener
@KierTheScrivener Год назад
I loved hearing your thoughts. As some one whose faith is so important but only portrays that quietly in fiction I like how it informs her without blatant.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
So glad you enjoyed the video!
@MargaretPinard
@MargaretPinard Год назад
New viewer here, I think I found you from IG? What a fertile topic for discussion! ❤
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
So glad you found me! Welcome to my little corner of the Internet 😊
@Abel-ec6ch
@Abel-ec6ch 5 месяцев назад
I love it. But I am genuinely amazed that someone could seriously argue that Jane Austen's works are not deeply religiously minded. Thank you for your videos!!
@annafife9094
@annafife9094 Год назад
The other authors you mentioned sound very interesting. I am looking forward to more.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
Great to hear! I'm very tempted to do a T. S. Eliot video next!
@wraithby
@wraithby Год назад
I'm happy to see you explore this area. I recall taking a 19th century novel course at university, back in the late 70s. We read Emma by Austen, Adam Bede by George Eliot, Tess of the D'Urbevilles by Hardy, Bleak House by Dickens, Jane Eyre by C. Bronte. All had various attitudes toward Christianity, but never once was the subject brought up in lectures or discussions! A video on TS Eliot and Dante would be interesting though it's an incredibly complex area.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
Ok thank you for expressing interest in Eliot and Dante. I am not properly speaking a scholar of either, but I have written on both recently and have lots of ideas. I'm not surprised to hear about your university experience - I took a course on Renaissance literature when I was an undergraduate in the mid 2010s and a substantial number of students knew nothing about the Reformation, and were not given the tools to learn about it. I pretty much had to teach myself all I know about religion and literature.
@maryhamric
@maryhamric Год назад
Oh my, your hair looks lovely! Congratulations on your pregnancy. Sorry to hear it is so difficult this time around. I love your focus on Christian virtue and morality in Austen's novels because that's what I personally find very compelling about her work. I really love your videos and I appreciate all your perspectives and look forward to more. I'd love to hear you share on the other others. I'm especially interested in Julian of Norwich.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
That's so kind, thank you! Yes, we're having a girl this time which I'm so thrilled about, but as often with baby girls the sickness was horrible! So glad you enjoy the videos, I wrote a lot on Julian recently and would love to make a video on her Revelations of Divine Love.
@maryhamric
@maryhamric Год назад
@@beatrixscudeler That would be marvelous!
@snootybaronet
@snootybaronet Год назад
Thanks for this! I'd like to see videos on other authors as well. Has the recently released Emily Hale - TS Eliot correspondence interested you? I've read the Lyndall Gordon book. I have to admit the entire course of their relationship is perplexing to me. Mr. Eliot was an incredibly complex personality! Good luck!
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
Yes, I read the new Lyndall Gordon and enjoyed it a lot. The correspondence sheds a lot of light on what was going through his mind when writing the Four Quartets, so it interests me a lot for that aspect. He seems to have had a devotion to Emily Hale that was at least partly based on an idealised vision of her - like a Beatrice to his Dante - but she also seems to have helped him work out what he wanted to do with his poetry. It is perplexing at times!
@fyodor371
@fyodor371 11 месяцев назад
Sorry to hear you've had a difficult few months, but congratulations, and much delight that you've been able to post again. Enjoyed this essay very much, but a question for you: do you think Darcy is actually humble, i.e. not proud, at the end of P&P? I'm not sure that he is, as I've always been uncomfortable with the idea that he undergoes a material change in character through the novel. Yes, he realises his mistakes and works to correct them, but is it truly the case that he changes character, or is it more so that Lizzy's *perception* - i.e. her prejudice - of his character is corrected?
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler 11 месяцев назад
That's a great question! It's hard to say for sure because we don't see what their marriage is like. The conversation they have when they get engaged suggests to me that he realises he has lacked in humility. Whether he will fall back into his habit of pride or not we don't know, but at least it's a step in the right direction!
@michaelwalsh2498
@michaelwalsh2498 Год назад
Hi Beatrice, I wonder if the failure to see the Christian thrust in Austen, besides being an effort to place her into a secular framework ( claiming one of the greats for our team), might be confusion about the differences between Aristotelian and Christian ethics? Certainly early Christianity was Hellenized, but as your analysis of pride and humility shows, Athens and Jerusalem were (are) in tension. Also, was Austen's Englishness a factor, somewhat fastidious about a too direct portrait of Christian virtue? Lots to think about. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 .
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
The Englishness, specifically the Anglican-ness, is definitely a factor. In her correspondence she shows mixed feelings about the more demonstrative character of Evangelicalism (then in its beginnings in England) so a lot of the time the absence of outward devotion is just a product of how Church of England people worshipped. She does have characters who are much more open in professing their faith though, so you can tell she was wrestling with this in very interesting ways. And yes, Athens and Jerusalem still are in tension. My husband always says that he used to be an Aristotelian but he's becoming much more Augustinian as he grows older. I'm still on the fence about whether Christianised Aristoteleanism entirely works or not. Super interesting stuff!
@michaelwalsh2498
@michaelwalsh2498 Год назад
@@beatrixscudeler There's an interesting short chapter in Allan Bloom's book, Love and Friendship, on Pride and Prejudice. There he positions Austen among the ancients, particularly Aristotle, and sees her as a champion of classical friendship being completely realized in marriage (classical friendship being mutual growth in virtue through interaction of friends). But he adds that Austen tried to fuse elements of Rousseau's romanticism into this, which weren't successful. It's all interesting on its own terms, but Christianity is left in the waiting room, as if Austen was not a completely formed Christian. It's wonderfully argued, but so incomplete. As an Irish Catholic, I know our worship disposition is considered incredibly undemonstrative, if not cold. I get where Austen was coming from. As you mention Waugh, his description of what he took the Mass to be has always interested me. He described the priest as a craftsman, the server his assistant, set upon completing his work of art- the renactment of the sacrifice of Christ. Waugh wanted no emotional response from the congregation whatsoever.
@rosezingleman5007
@rosezingleman5007 Год назад
I’d love a video about Dorothy Sayres.
@beatrixscudeler
@beatrixscudeler Год назад
Fantastic, noted! I read some of the later Peter Wimsey novels years ago and I'm now reading through all of them chronologically. I'd love to do a whole author spotlight on her.
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