MSR Hubba Tour 2 Still Isn't Waterproof 

Let’s hope it will be as good and last as long as your old one.

Doesnt leak as long as you seam seal it.

Thanks.

Trouble is I like the layout so much, which is why it’s so disappointing that it doesn’t work! I have a couple of Hilleberg tents which are brilliant, I’m just not keen on their layout!

Have to agree Garry. The porch space is a bit limited on the Cairngorm.

Unfortunately, it’s not the first time I’ve heard this. I don’t know how MSR got this tent so wrong. I hope your other tent keeps you dry.

It is so disappointing! That feeling of it raining outside. And your all snug and dry in your tent, only to discover you're not! What British tent do you use?

@@travelsonabike2 Hi Garry. My 2 man tent is actually an ancient one which I bought in the early 1990s. It was made by a company called Hawkers IRC and marketed under the "Lichfield" brand. I don't think they're still around but the tent is still gong strong. My other tent is a Wild Country Zepheros 1 which is tiny but I only use that one for quick over-nighters. Wild Country is part of Tera Nova. It's basically their more affordable range. The other British manufacturer which comes to mind is Vango. They have an excellent reputation. HTH

Thanks for that, I'll take a look at them.

I sincerely hope your Hubba Tour, performs to your expectations! And as you say, an excellent layout is useless if it’s not waterproof!

It is no problem using 30 min, and seam seal it your self. This can happend on several tents, I have the same tent, have done the job, and it works perfekt👍

I’m with you on the, “Why did I buy an expensive tent!” And unfortunately, I’ve heard the same story so many times! I hope you manage to get your Elixir sorted out!

Garry McGivern Travels On A Bike 2 😊 thanks for your answer. Is MSR aware about your video ? Just because it’s not a good marketing for them they should react fast to change de product! .. very strange...

I think they are, as I was in contact with them for a while! But then I had a misfortune of events! www.garrymcgivern.com/friday-7th-september-home/ I do wonder if they care, as I did make contact with them again, but never heard anything back! They used to be such a good company, but their customer service these days leaves a lot to be desired!

Garry McGivern Travels On A Bike 2 👍🏻

I’ve heard about Robens tents, but never looked at them. I’m sure it’ll keep you dry, but just to be on the safe side!?

I’ve slept in it for the last five days. It’s a good quality tent - well put together. FWIW, it has its own issues (probably why it was in production for just one year). Very lightweight, that was achieved with fabric with a HH of just 2,000mm on the fly - and if you touch the fabric when wet, it seems to wick through. Plus there’s the whole tunnel tent condensation issue (certainly in the current chilly overnight weather, anyway). The other big compromise is the size - just too low for me to sit up in (I’m short, but with a long torso), and it’s VERY low at the foot end (so much so that one night my quilt was damp - not sure whether it was condensation wicking from inside the flysheet or some other issue). On the plus side, it has an excellent sized porch, seems very sturdy, and because it's made from silpoly, it doesn’t stretch when wet. Overall I’m happy to use it for up to a week on my own, but an extra 700grams or so would buy a tent with better headroom and more height at the foot end. If I can persuade the other half to try cycle camping/touring, we'd probably go for something like the Naturehike Oppalus 3. Because I’ll only be able to get away with buying another tent if it’s very, very cheap :)

Glad it was okay for you, as soon as this lockdown is over you can head off out!

@@travelsonabike2 I might go bike packing this weekend. Load everything onto the bike, ride my usual 15-mile local circuit back home again, pitch in the back garden, then do it all in reverse on Sunday :)

MSR tried to fob me off saying it was condensation at first! I think the leaking problem is only on the Hubba Tour tent from what I’ve seen.

@@travelsonabike2 NO, SAME PROBLE ON MY ELIXIR 3 ....

That sounds encouraging, let’s hope they have modified their tent! I’m glad you stayed dry.

Couldn't be any worse!

I hope it wasn't raining

It certainly isn’t, as I said I don’t understand what MSR is playing at! I’ll have a look at the Vango Erebus, glad it suits you.

It really doesn’t! Knowing me, I probably will! The layout just suits my needs so much, although like you say, if it doesn’t keep you dry it’s pretty useless! As I said I don’t know what MSR are thinking, I had an MSR Velo, which was brilliant. The only reason I stopped using it was that it just wore out!

@@travelsonabike2 I have a couple of MSR tents but not the Tour, they have had light use but never noticed any leaks as yet. I am worried. I bought one of their Windburner stoves and new out of the box it refuses to light. The first one I had was brilliant but unfortunately that was pinched. I think MSR quality is pretty hit and miss given they are supposed to be a premium brand.

I think they’ve lost the plot and are more interested in profit these days! As I said, my old MSR Velo lasted for over 10 years and I never had a problem! My MSR Windpro cooker has been going strong since the early 2000’s. They use to be a brand to trust, I’m not so sure these days, and as for customer service! Best we don’t go there!

I noticed that myself the other week when I was looking! (I always like to look and see if there are any new tents out there.) Maybe MSR have given up on it?

@@travelsonabike2 Looks like they could not make it waterproof and gave it up, Thanks for your RU-vid video. I think i will buy another tent from MSR, ad they actually looks like a good company. Tried any ultra-light tent?

I’ve always rated MSR, that was until I got the Hubba Tour! Sorry I’ve not tried any of their Ultra-light tents, and not heard any bad reports! So hopefully, you’ll be okay, and have plenty of dry nights. Let me know which one you decide to go for.

@@travelsonabike2 I wil let you know, im not sure what to buy yet, but lucky its long time before i cant tent here in Norway:)

Don’t blame you, what tent did you get instead?

Garry McGivern Travels On A Bike 2 As there are two of us we went for a larger 4 man tent, heavier but so much room, got the big Agnes tensleep 4. Toured down from London to Paris to St.Malo and back to London. Stayed warm and dry in the rain for once.

Funnily enough, I've been looking at Big Agnes, myself.

I had the same issue - loved the idea and the design but badly implemented

Who buys a tent, to buy another tent/tarp to put over it!

A real shame, I really wish it worked!

I doubt it very much.