Do you have an MSR tent such as the Hubba Hubba 2 and the Easton Syclone poles give you splinters? Or your tent has part of the taped seams peel? Before you curse at this excellent tent and throw it away, try these two fairly easy fixes.
Dude, for the price, this tent has been a disappointment. I had a broken syclone pole with less than two years use. The broken pole became sharp and jagged and it just ripped through the fly. I did not give up the tent, so I bought transparent gorilla tape and fixed the tear on the fly, and I bought some carbon fiber poles from Ali Express, the had the exact same diameter and thickness, it worked like a charm. Now I'm trying to figure out some way to unglue the inner aluminum tube from the original broken pole so I can glue it on the new one. I think I'll be able to do it. Been trying to soften the glue by boiling the pice and soaking it in water. I love the tent desgin, but materials have left a bad impression.
If you mean the silver metal connector, you can order just that part alone from MSR. Agree for how many great features this tent has, it's been problematic for many people all the same.
Understood. At this price point, a Big Agnes Copper Spur doesn't have these issues, slightly more roomy, and is 2 oz lighter. The Nemo Dragonfly Osmo is slightly heavier, but has a great tub and fly fabric. If you don't need free standing, their Osmo, shaves off a whopping 12oz. Both are over $10 less expensive (though the Hornet bit smaller). The BA Tigerwall is very light, but borderline fragile IMO. If you are willing to go with a trekking pole tent (I'm not) then the limits are completely different.
@@PhilAndersonOutside Thank you for detailing suggestions! Currently i have no trekking pole tent interest. Few days ago i`m freezeeng my POV at Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 Bikepack Tent, but after reading some low rating reviews at rei, it seems that its also have some major issues as leaked tent and many more problems... as for others, not interesting any other. Currently hubba hubba HP or NX pole construction is almost standart and very successful model. I own a hubba hubba hp 2 person tent, no problems for a long time. And i think 1:34 is a warranty issue, changing for a new or returning the tent is a more preferred IMO or you will get a more problems after 1-2 year of using this tent and you need to reglue all seams - its ok for msr price and brand? Your solution is not a solver for this kind of issue, as you see there is lots of bubbles inside also, so its a question of time, when this strip is fully peel off. I think MSR will renew hp2 after this issues and will fix and update the model in a nearly time. Need for consulting with them about this issues and their near future plans for updating.
For me this feels like going backwards to the days when my dad's car camping tent had fiberglass poles that would indeed fill your fingers with fine fiberglass splinters. So there's no way, in 2024, that I'm going to spend $800USD on a tent who's poles I need to sand and finish just to keep splinters out of my fingers. Hey MSR....1970 called and they want their poles back!! What REALLY concerns me about the Syclone poles are the numerous reports of the poles delaminating or fraying at their cut ends and/or around the composite insert that fits into the grommets of the tent body (Again, not unlike the fiberglass poles from 1970) This is another HUGE "nope" for me. No way in 2024 am going to spend $800USD on a 4 season tent that has poles that can (reportedly) delaminate as the result of nothing more than standard and intended usage. They may be lighter than aluminum and may bend further without breaking than aluminum.....but I just don't see the point of accepting defects from 1970 in a modern day tent. That said, I love everything else about the Access 2's design. Shame MSR can't admit, then address, the Syclone problems though.
I have yet to hear the pole "splinter" problem with the Access version of the Syclone poles, only the Hubba series. Though logic could indeed conclude if one batch is susceptible to the issue, another could be as well. Or I'm just not reading enough reports. As of 2024, it's also my belief that modern DAC poles, as well as fabrics (such as the OSMO used by Nemo, or DCF) have all but rendered any advantage of the Syclone poles null. The weight difference is fractional. Wind tests have shown standard DAC able to hold up to about 50mph sustained winds, and at that point most tents risk ripping, until you get to reinforced mountaineering tents designed for the Himalayas, Alaska (BD Bomb Shelter, MH Trango, etc.). So, while the Syclone poles may hold up in such harsh and windy conditions, extremely few people are going to spent much of any time at all there and are likely to head down to safety. You are also completely right that one shouldn't have to sand their tent poles on a brand new tent that costs over $500 (Hubba) let alone $800 (Access). My post was a plausible solution to people who owned the tent, and could not return it.
@@PhilAndersonOutside Sorry!! Don't mistake the reason for my post. I thought your video was excellent! My comment was more of a general observation about where we should be in 2024 in terms of acceptable defect and how much work we should have to do to make a new product that's closer to $1k than $100 suitable for actual use. And perhaps more importantly it was aimed at MSR.....a company I rather like and who's other products have served me for decades rather reliably and without issue. But I had my eye on the Access 2 the moment it came out and simply read to many owner reviews who loved the layout but have had some kind of issue with the Syclone poles. (Just google "syclone pole problem") and read the outdoor forums. I wrote MSR to inquire about whether they have experienced a higher rate of warranty claims on the Syclone poles vs standard Easton aluminum specifically regarding the claims of delamination around the cut ends and inserts. They provided a very vague answer and simply suggested that if I have an issue with any MSR product I can go through their standard warranty process. Not great for a company that has always had R&D and reliability in their DNA.
