MTG Creator Tries To Guess How Good Yugioh Cards Are w/ KessWylie 

how about showing YUGIOG cards to MTG players while telling them one of them is banned, and see if they guess Butterfly Dagger Elma is banned

I’d love to see him return. He seemed to pick up the game of Yugioh incredibly fast

his analysis of cards is insane for someone who first sees them, figured out all the details for psyframes and mekk knights really quick, even the "catch them if they are lazy" with the column micromanaging which happened quite a lot whenever mekk knights would come and go in and out of the meta.

Its funny that without any context he understood the issue of infernity players setting monsters in the spell/trap zone.

I love how cards like gamma, mekk knights, imperm, and even gorz have basically permanently programmed yugioh players to play a certain way regardless of their actual presence

I'm amazed how you get better and better at explaining Yugioh to Magic players each episode

i think my favorite part of small world as a card is its so open ended that we as a community have created a website to be a "small world" game where you get two random cards (the first card and the last) & have to find the small world target in the middle.

"Pot of Greed is Ancestral Recall but for 0 mana, and you get 2 cards instead of 3" That's a really good description, I can't think of a more concise way to explain that card

I feel like important context of W Nebula Meteorite is that its archetype *is* one of the few ones which special summons cards face down..

Scapegoat was good in link format as well for a while, so much so that it was limited for a few formats. It had fantastic synergy with link spider and linkuriboh. Not to mention it was basically a free link 4 if activated during your opponents end phase

This is such a great improvement to the series, not that the previous episodes are bad but the flow of this one was just better. The way you introduced the guest to the mechanics of yugioh was soooooo much more succinct and engrossing.

You guys were absolutely talking past each other around 38:00. Kess is asking whether you have to tribute monsters in order to set a level 5+ monster.

the way he understood small world so quickly....incredible

It might be cool to do some sort of "find the cheat/cheese" episode, where you show or describe the idea behind a card/deck and see if they can guess how it cheeses or how you'd cheat while playing it. See if they can figure out the good ol' Infernity "set spell". Alternatively: Maybe show them a set of cards (like eight at once) and see if they can pick out the broken interactions from the red herrings, like Library + Bamboo Swords + Exodia, the Yata Lock combo, etc.

You can also title the video "KessWylie figuring out the best Infernity strats in real time" (during the W Nebula Meteorite discussion)

"The most roundabout way to tutor for a creature"was a great moment. How about an episode where you show Magic players Yugioh players?

Great episode, Kess was absolutely spot on for most of the cards and I can't believe how he got Small World in like 10 seconds. One thing he kinda missed about the Mekk Knight is that while your opponent can play around it by positioning their cards, if you have a S/T in your hand you can set it and summon the Mekk Knight to the same column as their monster regardless. I would describe the YGO board like this: Both players has a 5x2 area, the top row (closer to their opponent) are the Monster zones, the "back row" is for playing sorceries, instants and traps. You have to physically put sorcery/instant on the board to activate them, which means if you have 5 cards in the back row you can't use another sorcery/instant. Most S/T are sent to the grave after they resolve, but those with the infinity symbol stays on the board instead, and usually has some effects you can use as long as they are still on the board. In the middle between you and your opponent's board are two bonus zones where only very specific types of monster can be summoned into, and you can only occupy one of them (most of the time). If both zones are free, you pick one to play your monster and your opponent is forced to play in the other zones, and vice versa.

Notice that when he evaluated W Nebula Meteorite, he talked about the advantages of flipping all of the opponent's monsters facedown to blank them as the defining feature of the trap card. So if given a card to read like Book of Eclipse, he would most certainly say that that card is amazing. The only thing he didn't account for in this case was the fact that Trap cards are way too slow.

Scapegoat was good even link format because trickstar was just that weird. It even got limited because they were making borreload dragon of all things.

Scapegoat a pretty good card in the past is kind of an understatement. "Goat Format" was a thing. It was a meta defining card then banned for many many years, and then became good again in 2018 and hasnt seen play since

W Nebula isn't a bad card, it's just the archetype it's attached to. If Worms were broken, this card would be banned immediately, or when a light reptile deck can abuse it.

I think that one thing that could've been explained about "small world" is that yu-gi-oh has the ability to use the "banish" zone way more than magic can use cards that becomes exiled. Great video!

Amazing how quickly he was able to intuit the gameplay choices players starting making with Mekk-Knights just from seeing what would probably be one of the worst Mekk-Knight cards

I loved how he understood exactly all the ruling you told him, repeating it with magic words on point. This guys seems clever. Hearing his thought process was interesting and shows that he knows cards games ! (I play both magic and yugioh, loved it !)

Literally the first person that I have seen that didn't say "wait, let me read it again to be sure" on small world and he instantly understood it after walking through it in his mind for just a minute. I am increadibly impressed.

I don´t know ANYTHING about Magic but I´ll definitely would watch another video of this guy guessing YGO cards, he´s thought process is very interesting

This doesn't get mentioned often because it's kinda getting into the nitty-gritty of rules but cards referring to themselves by name does function very different in Magic and Yugioh. In Magic "CARDNAME" basically means "this object" and is used akin to Yugioh's "this card". In Yugioh, "CARDNAME" means "all cards named this". Very fun episode. I think it'd be a bit better if you more often let the guests finish their questions. I understand why you sometimes answer early, I've also played a lot of both games and often understand where they're going to go, but it makes for a better viewer and guest experience to let it play out. The video can go a bit longer, it's not a big deal.

It's interesting I've now seen a few people just have the knack for perfectly understanding small world first try. I guess helps that you don't actually need the majority of context beyond "search for something that has exactly one thing in common" and most card game players know searching cards is good. I wonder if there's something about how it's written that it just clicks for certain people and not others, given there's a good number of *yugioh* players who don't really understand it.

I like hearing this guy’s thought process, it feels good for some reason

I think these should be accompanied by an image of the playfield for a bit of context

This was really interesting! Alex was very good at just asking relevant questions and understanding the concepts of everything. Great job on this one!

This guy is a true card player , did a pretty good job

Great guest! Very good understanding without having too much context. Itd be nice to set ground rules for good/bad, as many mentioned nebula is good, but you cant play it in any good decks, its like saying any archetype draw 2 is bad, yes if those archetypes are bad it wont be played but power level is there. Not a critic or anything, might help the guests if they knew in which context the card needs to be good, is it its own power level, is it in todays meta or something else.

I love the fact that even a magic player can see the absurdity in "auhah u triggered my card you could have had zero way of knowing i had or playing around"

I always love this series, and I gotta say, his comment on Gamma is 100% on point! Lore-wise, all the hand trap Psy-Frames are either parts of Driver's suit, or parts of Driver's wack hover motorcycle thing.

fun fac the symbol in the top right is the type or attribute of the card and then right above it stands the type or attribute of the card. wana(trap), ma(spell), hikari(light), yami(like that one yugioh character people know most, dark), kaze(wind), hi(fire), mizu(water), ji(earth), kami(divine). they aren't JUST fun looking symbols, but they still are fun looking

Forgot to mention that scapegoat was massively used in a deck as late as 2019, the tokens were used to link climb in trickster. And also facilitated a play called the firewall dragon otk in said deck.

Im not 100% sure why but this was one of my favorite episodes yet. I think you two had good energy with each other, like natural cohost chemistry or something.

"Does it punch thru them and turn them into a donut... maybe" lol, love to see random One piece memes references

Scapegoat was also good early link format.

shouldve shown him psy-framelord omega just to see driver riding gamma (hes a scooter actually)

It may be a lot of extra work, but for some of the more difficult to intuit good cards it might be cool to show a replay of the card working. Not a full duel, but almost like the puzzles you get in YGO video games where you're against a board of stuff and you show how you can (for example) set up your own Red Moon and get in for game. Or something like that

absolutely loved the vibes analysis of the scapegoat card tho, he's correct the vibes are immaculate

A yugioh streamer named MBT would hold a monthly tournament back when in person play was mostly impossible (through simulators) and alot of them coincided with new product formats, so a good place to gauge the new format, but no one would take them seriously as someone would show up with mechknights in like 2022 and get to top cut to a point so frequently that they were called mechknight monthlys, luckily now he runs the only worth a crap tournaments in masterduel and no one shows up with mecknights

This guy picked up quick! I think it helped that whereas a lot of the MTG players you have on approach it from an MTG perspective, this man looked at it from a more general perspective of games (particularly card games) in general

W Meteor is pretty interestimg and was moderatly decent in like 2011, or 12. I mean it triggers flipp effects, is a free book of moon, lets you draw, and summon your big beater. Worm won some smaller tornaments because of that. And its just very well designed to do what worm wants it to do.

Scapegoat = is actually good, it is an easy 1 turn Link 4 card. Typically, you can go into Mekk-Knight Crusadia Avramax. You use SG in your opponent's end step. So you don't lock your summons.

I think Kess misunderstood Normal Setting: You still pay your tributes when you set cards. Their stats do not change because Flipping them face up is something you get to do for free on your Main Phase 1. Not doing so would be cheating like morphing a non-morph.

Scapegoat was an early mr4 staple as well, bc it contributed to link climbing. it even got put on the list from that format.

i used the gamma package in numeron and it was super satisfying. if you get the magical calling interrupt you get 7500 on board pre-buff, and if you get it earlier on you get the synchro which rips a card from hand and clears itself.

I want to see how they react to continuous traps that turn into monsters

Hey man, I love this video series. As someone who teaches a lot on r/yugioh101, I do just have a friendly suggestion for something that comes up in most of your videos. Most of your guests get confused on Normal vs. Special Summoning, and you typically give a somewhat narrow explanation that focuses on the current card, which makes sense until the next card raises more questions and you need to ammend your previous explanation. I would just explain it concisely as, _"Since it costs no mana to summon a creature in Yugioh, you're instead limited to summoning just one creature from your hand per turn. This is called a Normal Summon/Set, and Level 5 or higher creatures require you to sacrifice other creatures. Summons by card effects and from the Extra Deck are called Special Summons and don't count toward this limit."_ Again, just a friendly suggestion. I've been loving this series so keep it up!

@ 0:33 it would have been good to make him aware of the fact that scapegoats can still be tributed for costs and summon conditions, which are not the same as being tributed for a Tribute Summon.

notes: 1: there are a very small amount of monsters who don't activate but yes generally gamma is broken 2: you should probably have mentioned that mekk nights can move other mechknights, slight correction "cost down" removes levels from a card in hand , but typically you don't do that :) 3: a judge can check face downs to verify that they where legal, this is because of artifacts but genraly yeh you just have to trust people

Psy frame Hand trap = Another mention is that both these cards on your turn can synchro into a level 8. What is important as there are many good generic level 8 monsters.

W Nebula is so funny cuz everybody, even YGO players, would say the 2nd part of the effect is nuts. But Reptiles, in general, are so bad that they even have other draw/mills that would be broken in other other decks in yugioh but still doesn't need to be banned. Also Psy-Frame Gamma is also broken because in decks where you tribute your only monster on the board as a cost to activate an effect, now you no longer have a monster on the board, fulfilling Gamma's condition. If they use a hand trap to negate that effect, you can now chain Gamma to negate the hand trap, summon 2 monsters on the field, and also get your original effect off. Gamma and Driver are tuner and non-tuner, and they are combined levels of 8. Level 8s are some of the most powerful synchros in the game, so now you've made a strong monster and got to activate a tribute for an effect, which tend to be pretty strong due to the riskiness of the cost. Kess has to be the fastest person to ever understand Small World from scratch. I can tell he's a smart dude

incredible analysis!!

7:30 "I would hang out with them" there are plushis of them, so it could technically be possible. Plus seeing in the original holiday cards they are edible

I think something you should do is get a bunch of previous contestants and rather than going one card at a time you show them a handful of cards that work together and ask them if they were a threat or not. This way they have to think more so about the core of the deck rather than generics and hand traps and see how their knowledge adapts.

W Nebula Meteorite can special summon summon a board wiper. There is a specific card it can summon outside the Alien archetype it was created within to make this possible. It is Edison-level Duel Links doable awesomeness. Dark Alligator, which is possibly what is what Jim Cook is carrying, also qualifies, making the card a good tech card for his decks in Duel Links.

I have a cyberse/link deck that splashes Mekk-Knights and the presented card is a great one to have. The lvl8 that can Senet Switch is essential.

Enjoyed the discussion. On e suggestion, next time, I would also have shown an example of two synchros to summon with gamma and driver. Maybe omega and stardust.

Something I've noticed in a bunch of these videos is the fixation on ATK/DEF stats when they are usually not really relevant in the modern format unless specific cards in the meta care about stats (e.g. TY-PHON, Scarlight RDA). Battle as a form of removal is often used as a last resort in yugioh

Seems like the W Nebula Meteorite would be fun in a Flip effect deck, especially if there's some Light Reptiles with some. "I activate WNM, flipping over my Man-Eater Chameleon, who destroys any non-Machine monster! Then he'll flip back face down, at the end phase!" But I vaguely know that yu-gi-oh boards are built to just be "You and permanents you control have Hexproof and Indestructible."

now i just want this guy to tell me the vibes he gets from various yugioh cards

Dude talked into a full debate with himself a few times lol

Ok, not knowing much about MTG, I thought the title meant this guy invented the actual TCG 😂

im impressed he managed to accurately evaluate something as convoluted as small world

I can't believe you finally did Small World. Hats off.

I would maybe just have a picture of the playfield for yugioh. It seems like he was asking a whole lot of questions that could be answered with one that is just labeled. And maybe also explain hard vs soft once per turn effects. As an additional fun idea, showing archetypes of cards, so like the best 3 or 4 sky strikers, 3 or 4 best zoodiak, 3 or 4 best drytron etc etc would be interesting if you brought back former guests.

All these years I thought Richard Garfield was the MTG creator.

Nebula Meteorite is just waiting for the right deck or support to break it 😂 Worms are flip monsters or monsters that activate when flipped face up(its different from flip momaters so they don't benefit from FLIP support cards) so flipping them face face up durong your opponent's turn activates their effects without going through the battle phase. The re-flipping part of the card basically resets their effects so you can use them on your turn. Worm king is usually what you bring put from your deck with this and cna potentially wipe the board by tributing a monster to destroy a card(not a once per turn iirc). Konami revitalized some archetypes with their new support from the Duel Terminal series of cards so Worms might get new support in the future 👀

Idk man I can’t in my heart of hearts say that Scapegoat is bad… I can’t say it’s playable either tho 😂

I love how much everyone loves the phrase: A-HA! you've activated my trap card! x'D In pretty much all the videos i've seen of non yugioh players guessing yugioh cards the guest says the phrase in one way or another x'd

That thumbnail isn’t wrong. W Nebula Meteorite would be broken if it was made for a better archetype

i think it would be a good idea to show the person a YUGIOH field, especially with cards like Mekk-Knights or infinite impermanence and also in general since the board is kinda imortant and different to most TCGs.

W Nebula Meteorite has like enough benefit where it'd be worth attempting to resolve at least back when it was released, but despite having 26 worm cards, there really isn't enough good ones for a deck. If I remember correctly there is one that summons and one that destroys a monster on flipping, and everything else is bad. Also Dinosaurs are NOT reptiles in Yugioh. But there is an archetype that evolves from reptiles into dinosaurs into dragons, but only the dragon cards were any good.

The 8000 starting life total in yugioh actuallt has an interesting origin. Originally characters would start games with 2000 life, mimicing magic's 20 life. In the original anime adaptation, the starting life total was always doubled to 4000. Then when the official card game came around, the life was doubled yet again to 8000 presumably to make games longer.

He mostly evaluated Mekk-Knight Red Moon correctly, I would say. The only thing he missed is that you can create a column with your opponent's cards by setting spell/traps. But he still got there in the end. I wouldn't even be comfortable saying it's bad today. It's still a deck that is a solid rogue pick from time to time. And it can tear a Tier 1-2 deck apart if the pilot isn't prepared for it. The main point is that any time the deck is on people's radar, it gets worse, and when it isn't, it gets better. It isn't for *no* reason that we play around them still. It's because a lot of people still have memories of being caught off guard when they stop playing around them. To be honest, I do think people will stop playing around them in time. I don't think it will just be habit forever. After all, no one plays around Gorz anymore.

I think it would make these a lot more interesting if you have an example of the play field (even untitled) so they can properly understand instead of trying to just describe the field. Especially if you’re going to have them evaluate cards like the Mekk knights that require knowledge of the board

Im amazed how fast he figured small world out, i got so confused first time i read it

I mean to be fair to W Nebula Meteorite it is, more or less, the best card in its intended archetype of Worms so in that context its good, but sadly Worms have (pretty much) never been, so the final evaluation is difficult to argue with.

"this is a motorcycle" kinda not wrong, Driver does ride the PSY-Frames across the circuit before merging with them.

The problem with w nebula meteorite is also that it's in an awful archetype. I think if worms were good at any point this card would have been fine. When rata did the legacy of the worthless on worms he basically mentioned this as one of three reasonable worms cards in a sea of otherwise completely unplayable garbage. Also, I agree with your assessment this card just does so much for 1 card that realistically doesn't matter in modern yugioh Also, this guest was great! Good vid

All creatures have Haste, Defender, and Trample, but you can set them to cancel trample in most cases.

If an opp scoops we may not be able to see their cards, but in your example, they would have to at least reveal what they added from the deck so there’s a little bit of trust built 😂

ok you got me jame i have been watching your content for a while now you got my sub

One thing i think you should point out to MTG players almost immediately in these videos is that the attacker chooses targets, and each attack is basically its own mini phase within the battle phase. I've noticed a lot of mtg players keep getting stuck on the "blockers" mindset.

I love this series! Is there any way you could show a standard board to whomever is guessing? because I feel like that would clear up some unneeded confusion about how many monsters are allowed to be played and how the board is divided between players 😊

the very last time spacegoat was in a meta deck it was in trickstar decks during the firewall dragon era of the game

it's fascinating that Yugioh was supposed to be an MTG clone, based on the original manga/anime, but it has completely different mechanics from magic, that a magic player cannot play the game just by knowing magic alone

its funny the fact that he was basically right about Gamma being Driver's motorcycle

I think there was a miscommunication when explaining Normal Set. If the card would require tributes to be normal summoned, the card still needs tributes to be set

Maybe mention the times the cards were good or how the cards are bad a little bit more. Like saying that there was a whole Goat format named after Scape Goats and that W Nebula Meteorite wouldve been good, if there was a good Reptile Deck back then.

i realized what it actually meant after thinking about it for 2 seconds but when i read "MTG Creator" for a second i thought it meant the person who created magic the gathering lol

45:10 Oof that One Piece reference

My favorote part of Yugioh card review is the guesser thinking theres any reassoning or theme to the card art XD

Props to the guest for deciphering Small World's text on the first attempt 😂 I've seen videos like this where the guest's brain exploded trying to understand what it's saying. And to be fair, even some ygo players find it confusing lol.

Scapegoat is underrated. Just needs to survive one turn set face down and you make a free Link 4 with IP bonus. The amount of times I’ve made a busted Avramax with this singular card is disgusting. So yeah you can’t really fit it into a meta deck but it’s one of the most fun casual cards ever printed

Goat was also good for links when they first came out