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that... makes fucking sense... I'm upset

Sky Striker: I see this as an absolute win!

Fortune Lady/Fairy would also make use of it.

MINUS THREE!!!

draw whole deck, generosity the copy of slash draw, then slash draw.

yugioh has some really specific cards that show an effect that is literally impossible to happen with sayd cards and can be quite ironic at times

It's also one of two Traps to be the Cover Card of a set.

Well, it depends. Sometimes you have cards that despite all common sense ignore all rulings to make stuff possible, so could be that Last Turn was intended to be one of those cards... but Last Turn is a ruling nightmare to begin with, so really, who knows.

​@@mystikx2205where's last turn featured? I know LON has mask of restrict

Legacy of Darkness, the very next set after LON@@djdannydan1203

this is evil

Not necessarily timeout but rather most would just quit before trying to resolve that card

Wouldn’t it be insane in Spyral?

Duelingnetwork 😂

@@cancerstinks1 you cant spend a card on knowing whats on top of the opponents deck, its just too big of a cost.

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Remember when there were events based around some play style, and people without tier 1 meta decks would just play suicide cards in hopes of dying quickly? Yeah, good times before komoney banned those cards. Bastards.

​@@KiuhKobold It's mainly that they changed the payout. Before, you'd get paid the maximum of 500 win/lose as long as you didn't surrender. They changed it so if you lost you got 50. Before, you'd either be doing stuff to make you lose instantly, or just losing quickly to an opponent.

Relay soul summon a monster. Link monster off. Lose the game. The TRUE selftk deck.

Yeah 50pt is not worth of the time spent, 10x losing compared to 1x winning is just time wasting, not to mention relay soul is trap so it's 2 turn at minimum for u to lose

what i love about yugioh is having the most insane powercrept cards of the decade working together with a really specific shit card that no one gave a damn for years to create the most insane OTK ever. (props to the exodia grandpa recently winning a tournament with a shit generic enought search efect that is broken only cause its not once for turn that i remenber using on duel links while i didnt have good enought cards to do a proper deck)

​@@shadou1234567Fucking Blue Dragon Summoner, like never in my life i would make a connection where it's not a once per turn and the fact that all Exodia pieces are normal aside from the Head

vanguard and duel masters on the side are triggered by this comment.

Not exactly powercreep, just the deck style is now different. Back then you try to win trough building an invincible, unpenetrable board that hinder your opponent to play, Nowadays deck designed play on either player turns or just brute force eating disruption. Now you all understand why yugioh is more closer to fighting games than card games, and somehow without mulligan the deck have 99% consistency.

i thought he would coment it, the day that character got released this was kinda meta and it stayed as a decent rogue deck while climbing ranks if i recall correctly

it was also part of a degenerate burn ftk, where you would use it with a bunch of cards and Restructer Revolution. Cup of Ace would either draw more burn cards or give your opponent more cards to deal more burn damage with Restructer Revolution and since LP in Duel Links are only 4000 it wasn't too hard to kill your opponent in one turn.

This card also saw play in combination with a card that let's you draw as much as your opponent. forgot the specifics but it wasn't too bad

Despaseto sartores deck is my favorite shit I got to top 500 in the world cup

there also are cards that help you rig a coin flip like second coin toss, but the problem there is, you're playing two cards to make it more likely to get a draw 2 when you could just play desires or something instead

That might play a part in the card's banning but Konami really hates cards that can cause draws in a tournament setting, even though they printed the cards. Self-Destruct Button and Fiber Jar are on the banlist strictly due to them enabling stall strategies.

​​@@TylerMcVeigh1self destruct button was used in rogue deck called windwitch razor burn to force a tie and winning the match with 1-0, one even won adachi championship 500 players in 2019. You can even see it in action in farfa channel

It would be kind of funny if the card said "While the monster is on the field, you do not lose the duel". Well, at least for a short while, then it would just be annoying.

I mean, you could have something that can't be destroyed by battle and wait for battle damage to kill you, but then you're praying your opponent doesn't have an out for Marshmallon or some dumb junk like that. If you're coping that hard about that loss state you can just run Battle Fader or Swift Scarecrow to stop that lethal damage. xD

I mean even in that situation you could just activate Fissure to nullify the card

@rescuerex7031 "...but then you're praying your opponent doesn't have an out for Marshmallon or some dumb junk like that" Fissure is an out, so that's what I said

@@Talguy21 "I activate Relay Soul Targeting Arrival Cyberse @Ignister" "Bro Wtf"

Joke cards and card story You see, the humble sentry took place during ceasefire.

And didn’t Cold Wave and Cold Feet tell the story of Frostosaurus becoming Fristosaurus?

I think Stevie fits well

I mean there no true exodia

I was going to mention this, good im not the only one who made weird degenerate shit (of course this wouldnt really work nowadays, the card needed your opponent to activate a normal spell which is rare thing nowadays xD)

​@@pejman3 They have a bunch more support that can force this now

Neko Mane King was one of THE side cards against Dark World in late 2011 and early 2012, because players overreacted to the structure decks release

I've been playing "Despair from the Dark" all da way back in GoaT because of duo , sure It doesn't end turns but it still got the job done .

One of my favorite facts about Yu-Gi-Oh is that for a long time, if you looked at the Card Tips section for Larvae Moth on the wiki, it said "If you successfully summon Larvae Moth via its summoning condition during a Duel, your opponent may forfeit out of sheer incredulity," or something to that effect. I think that has been taken down or updated to no longer say that, unfortunately.

me playing monster eye loop and greed burn lol

Lol me when I saw you could play 2 mighty master and block dragon on MD

Yeah I mean is it just me or does that card feel like the designers were picturing it being used as a means of disrupting raigeki before the opponent sets monsters

We already know exactly how it works thanks to its extensive documentation. The thing that trips players up is that the game isnt actually over when Last Turn has resolved, you need to proceed to end phase for that to happen, which enables a number of possible scenarios since there wont always be a Jowgen/Dyna in play. Which among other things includes the regular battle phase that hasnt been used yet and Last Turn doesnt actually use the battle phase, it just makes the monsters battle in a "special battle phase" for the sake of battle related effects.

Last Turn would have been so much more simple if it worked like Forbidden Scripture. That way other effects wouldn't interfere and it would literally be down to the two monsters battling with no BS.

@@EgoChip keep in mind that Last Turn was created in a time when yugioh still tried to create MTG style cards but hadnt found the balance between effects and no resource cost yet. while Scripture was printed 10 years later, long after they had found that balance.

Lol😂😂

Pole Position is o0ne of my favorite cards of all time ! And its not because of loops it was because I could play spells like Swing of memories or Burst stream of destruction and bypass their negative effects .

Wow imagine leaving a negative comment for the best creator ever. The best hearthstone player and a genius among card gamers.

**Inhales* (Curse Word) (Slur against Hearthstone Players) "Got'em"

I am hearthstoned and eating yugioats

I can't read any of this because I play TCG

Rarran is a horrible Yu-Gi-Oh player.

Especially when it uses older, half-forgottten cards. I also love seeing the weird corner cases (like Dark Jeroid being part of the -roid archtype)

I think thats what makes yugioh neat. Its essentially "What if MTG made legacy the premier format of the game". Cards like FoW serve a very similar function to ashe blossom.

Not even,the reason cards like monster reborn, change of heart and raigeki could come of the banlist is because konami started printing card for their respective archytipe that do this exact thing while also being way more simple to acces to due being tied to a family of cards or because cards that are simply better were printed. Since the concept of archytipes isn't really a thing in magic it's probably pretty hard for MTG players to gauge this. For example there's this card that it currently at one called reinforcements of the army,it tutors any warrior type monster,and it being a Yu-Gi-Oh card,at NO COST. Now many decks have spells,monsters and monsters that search those spells that allow you to search any monster from that archytipe. Even this effect got powercrept by emergency teleport,a card that allows you to not simply tutor ,but to straight up summon a monster directly from the deck,and some decks have such cards,tho konami is more careful with this kind of effects.

as the other guy said its not that power creep happened even if that is a partial factor but rather its because these older banworthy cards dont particularly synergize with modern decks even if they do work well with them like for example the nouvelles archetype has half of their monsters being beast-warriors types which would make you think it would synergize well with a spell card called fire formation - tenki aka tenki that has the effect of adding from deck to hand any lvl 1-4 beast-warrior monsters but because they have other cards that is able to search their monsters for them they choose to not use tenki at all even if tenki has a much wider range of search targets compare to the cards they do use because of easier ease of access as they need to hard draw tenki itself to use it but then there is another deck called lunalight which do uses tenki because they utilize a lot of lvl 4 beast-warrior monsters that essentially allows access to another monster called brotherhood of the fire fist - tiger king who can search out tenki on summon giving the deck access to said card practically on demand with little effort while also in conjunction advancing the lunalight's main strategy another thing with how archetype works is that having the archetype's name within the card's name allows them additional synergy with cards belonging to the archetype e.g ritual beast steeds is a trap card that has an effect that allows you to destroy monsters the opponent controls up to the amount of ritual beast monsters you control but so whats stopping said player from playing an actual board-wipe card like dark hole, raigeki or lightning storm over steeds which is only a potential wipe; the fact that the cards carries "ritual beast" within its name means other ritual beast monsters like kannahawk and apelio whose effect requires them to banish or return "ritual beast" cards to and from the grave means this card has additional use as cost-fodder over other cards basically many decks have easier access to cards that do the same or similar things as many banworthy/banned cards but typically with drawback such as restricted usage or requiring additional cost compare to their more generic counterparts but choose to use thse cards over the generic ones because of things like consistency and other potential synergies

at least one with nothing would set up the grave

yeah that would absolutely see play in yugioh, theres a deck called dark world where all the cards have effects that trigger when they get discarded

@@IanMalcolm99On the one hand Cheerful Coffin doesn’t see play in Dark Worlds, on the other One With Nothing would actually be better

Dang, one with nothing would be a really nice card in YGO for very specific strategy.

For example, MBTs Flying Fortress Skyfire list.

But then you'd probably just rather play the mallet instead.

​@@Depressed_Spiderunless you're me you'll draw the cards you return to your deck

Or I guess you can use it with Labrynths and Mystical Refpanels.

i would never call mallet trash it helps enable a whole lot of decks, just not top meta

yeah that dude really have terrible take, even cup of ace is terrible but it's not that bad some people still playing it in gamble and casual

He's not wrong though. Pot of Greed didn't see any play in an unlimited tournament that was played in Japan not too long ago. The best deck could literally mill turn 0 and start popping off. PoG literally powercrept. Convulsion is definitely broken though. It's a rulings nightmare and breaks a lot of cards. It not being in Master Duel is a hilarious example.

Pot of greed is actually bad now. Look how many cards search a specific card for you. My Lightsworn deck kills itself to 0 cards on turn 1 consistently (if I want it to) There are decks with 1 card combos that spot out full boards. Pot has nothing compared to what exists these days

@@randomcatname7792 dude it’s literally a free plus 1 consistency booster that gets to you your starters and hand traps more consistently. If anyone isn’t playing pot of greed in formats where it’s legal they’re actually just braindead

​@@randomcatname7792 pot of greed draws you 2 cards that can search things, for free, how is that not good lmao but more importantly, most competitive decks run a bunch of non-engine cards that dont search anything but interrupt your opponent's plays, those decks could use pot of greed to draw more non-engine or if they didnt draw any engine cards ...its still a bit of a trade-off since pot doesn't interrupt your opponent if youre going second (meaning it can be worse than immediately having a handtrap to use) but its probably strong enough that itd be in almost every deck anyway

He's also a huge creep. Let's not encourage Rarran to deal with creeps

@@randomcatname7792 first I’ve heard duel logs called a creep. Why do you say that?

@@doorto6152 So I just checked and there is nothing on duel logs. This is definitly made up

​@@SadoMessiahLPSomeone lied on the internet? No way

If mystical refpanel was playable in goat format I think people would have played it. Taking any of the golden trio of spells is game winning. BTW refpanel doesn't work on reborn.

It has a use case with garnets. Also I have a meme card idea with the effect of "draw 56 cards." (was 55 before the first turn draw change) So you would technically have the most op effect while you would never be able to resolve it except in combination with the worst effect.

​@@mauer1I think if you draw exodia while it resolves you still win tho

@@destryo3287 you can't activate the card because you can't draw more cards than you have lol. But ruling wise I am not sure right now when the win condition Chek happens for exodia. I think it's after effect resolve. Dw dealings doesn't let you win before you haven't discarded.

@@mauer1 you need to remember this comment section is mostly HS players, for anyone confused, a garnet is a term used to describe a card you want to keep in your deck because it has a specific interaction you want to pull off that doesn't work if its in your hand. think keeping some big monster in your deck so it can get pulled by barnes or something

@@IanMalcolm99 the good thing about garnets is it's named after the first real garnet. Gem knight garnet beeing in the hand is awful for you but if it stays in the deck you could use it for real powerful combinations.

At this point, I assume anyone playing Jowgen is up to no good and cannot be trusted.

Yeah but yu gioh is much faster than Magic , you wont get a third turn in most cases also card advantage is really important

@@elvenatheart982 it's does mater, have you see Pot Of Generousity in play? because i have, some people play pot of generousity just to shuffle slash draw into deck and win for FTK, Po of generousity often played in some FTK, the last time i see is some people shuffle pot of desirest into deck and in the stand by phase they drawing from card effect and then give pot of desires into opponent and then they forced to use pot of desirest becuse their hand already riped off with trishula 5 times and then they negate the effect of pot of desirest just just so we can have enought banish card to kill with 3 DD dinamite

@@popoch2 that sounds very vile lol

​@@elvenatheart982You see that like turn three and four are extremely rare. Turn five maybe, but turn 3

When I open enemy controller or change of heart in mamnadium, oh it feels nice I’ll tell you what

Ah, Lantern Control. One of the most painful modern deck to play against because it's slow and really stax-like. Well, at least it's not Four Horseman.

Pls pin this raran

Aye, there's some cards in combos that you'll never want in your hand, but going -3 in card advantage to return them to the deck isn't something most strategies can do and survive. Also, idk any "garnet" worth going -3 for. If it needs to be in the deck that badly, it's probably not worth running. And if it is, then one would still be better off with a 60 card deck without Pot of Gen, than a 40 card deck with the Pot (which is still a bad strat, imo, but it is a way more common one than the Pot).

You *can* use Pot of Generosity, but even then, Magical Mallet is better (not good, but a bit better)

They are a few garnets that you can't draw for them to function, but players rather play more cards (and go more towards the 60) than playing pot of generosity to better the odds. So even in the best use case people don't wanna use it.

The problem is ,you have to both draw the bricks AND draw this card,so for this to work out a lot of starts have to align. If you want to find this card often enough for it to matter you would have to play multiple copies of it,so then you run the risc of drawing multiple copies of it(which ig isn't that bad) and drawing it for turn on later turns.

Well, yeah. That's what I meant with the last sentence. There IS a usecase. But it's so fringe that you wouldn't put the card in the deck for it. MAYBE in your side-deck if you know your opponent will try to counter your combo by making you draw, which is very unlikely even in an MtG-Deck. And I think in Yu-Gi-Oh you would have lost the game before it started if you had to rely on that.@@raykirushiroyshi2752

If Last Turn was written with PSCT today, it probably would have Evenly Matched language where players send the cards to the GY. That said, the special Battle Phase nonsense makes the card unusable except in casual settings.

There exist a 7 page document detailing every scenario from back in the day.