MTG Memelord Tries To Guess How Good Yugioh! Cards Are w/ TheAsianAvenger 

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As an MtG guy, Linear Equation Cannon feels like a straight-up parody of overly complicated YuGiOh card effects

As a yugioh player, I find it funny how magic players guess the cards, sometimes they forget that the no resource in yugioh makes a card broken.

Linear equation is "what is the most insanely Busted effect you could possibly print and how can you make it so conditional it's bad".

I like how he honed in on the main issue with TCG text vs OCG text. Not having numbered effects sure makes the initial reading of effects bleed into each other.

Crim finding out Cannon Soldier turned into Walking Ballista is pristine

When Crim was talking about Cannon Soldier my first thought was "what if your Blood Artist was also your aristocrat." Which would be super busted in magic.

I'mma just outright state it: If Linear Equation Canon wasn't limited to the battle phase, it'd be playable. Even more, it'd likely see fringe play.

This one was especially great because the guest actually had some experience in Yu-Gi-Oh! He had some point of comparison so the surprises were even bigger.

This was a fun video but I did want to comment on one thing that was missed when discussing Ancient Fairy Dragon, which is the card wasn't errata'd when it was banned. You could use multiple copies of it in one turn and that's ultimately what decks were building themselves to do ("Field Spell Turbo" as I recall it) and that ultimately is why the card got banned. It's still quite strong even with the errata and it will always have a home in Yugioh as a result but it is one of those cards that got a power level errata.

You should have told him that canon soldier was one of the major reasons a protagonist card was banned and later errata'd

Crim is probably the Magic player with the most experience I've seen for these kinds of videos; he's dipped in and out of a few formats throughout the years I'm happy to see fewer cards with long text this time. As funny as it is to see non-yugioh players react to long text for the millionth time, I think these kinds of videos should be a test to see how one's knowledge of one card game translates to another one. It might also be a good idea to go over the basic mechanics of the game before the quiz starts so that the contestants can see the difference in the two games (e.g. Attacking monsters by default vs attacking the other player, no mulligan, no mana, effects are spell speed 1/sorcery speed by default unless otherwise stated, quick-plays/traps being spell speed 2/instant speed, normal summon/tribute summon rules, etc.) I think some good cards for magic players to evaluate are non-archetypal cards. Consistency cards like Pot of Prosperity, disruption like Infinite Impermanence, board breakers like Raigeki, etc. It's hard to evaluate archetypal cards without context, especially boss monsters. Boss monsters are really only as good as how easy it is to summon them, and anything that leads up to the boss monster is only as good as the monsters they can summon.

I agree with buddy here. Coming back to yugioh from Six Samurai era to master duel I’ve come to realize the only reason monsters still has levels is because of the extra deck.

One of these days, we yugioh players will force these mtg players to read Endymion.

Sometimes dated/limited Yugioh experience can almost be a disadvantage in one of these. He was totally had by his childhood hatred of Cannon Soldier! xP

I wish you mentioned for linear equation cannon that being shuffled back into the deck is the most powerful form of removal in the game. It's not a narrow card, it's a genuinely good payoff that is very generic (and good for self-mill decks), just the conditions for resolving it are way too rare, so it's a dead card 99% of the time.

You should host a Master Duel tournament with all your MTG guests! 😂😂

weird that he didn't compare Cannon Soldier to Catapult Turtle as both have similar effect and Catapult Turtle saw huge success because of its FTK burn potential

So what pretty much kills linear equation cannon besides it being a trap is that if your graveyard is empty or just a few cards then there is no number you can declare that will lead to anything meaningful if the opponent has at least a lv4 monster on the field. So in many situations you cannot even declare 1 as 1x4+1 requires you to have 5 cards in grave to not get burned for 500 and even if you fulfill it you just shuffle back 1 thing. Once the board gets larger and the monster goes higher in level it gets even harder to declare a valid number. Here is also the main flaw, you can almost never declare a number higher than 1 and still be correct.

Literally just left locals and saw this masterpiece on my feed, Crim is my favorite guest so far, he's funny

I don't want this video to end :( Yes, that requires feeding Crim an endless amount of card but I think that's a fair price to pay for the entertainment

One thing you gotta start showing magic players is doomking balerdroch. That card will have magic players frothing at the mouth to play.

im a magic player and the best part of these videos is to see how broken and disgusting some of the cards are and it seems completely random to me whats good and whats not lol

I stand behind teaching two cedh players basic game mechanics and having them play a tear mirror. Or just forcing mtg pros to watch _that_ tear mirror. That would be funny too.

Krim and duel logs or hardleg would make an insane colab playing the jankies decks possible xD

Crim saying that Volcano Dragon was bad because of skill drain is some Peak Eldlich Brainrot Not that they're wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that, that of alk things was their reasoning.

Getting back into yugioh myself has been a wild ride and I always love these types of videos and seeing if I can get the questions right too. I’d love to see someone rate a purrely card like Noir, that might be too easy but not knowing the cards the deck is built around could make it tricky.

I don't play any of these games i just like hearing people analyze things lmao

It’s so strange how the only deck box on that website is a Catholic deck box with a Bible quote… I was interested, but that is very much not for me, hah. But I’m glad you have sponsors that help incentivize making more of these videos so you can be compensated for providing us with so much entertainment! Another great video, thanks!

Cannon soldier just walking ballista 😂

I always enjoy these kind of vids. Just wish i could get more yugioh players guessing MTG cards

When they tried to understand both effects of AFD is when i realized how f-ing badly we need OCG bullet points. Why dont we have that in EU/Americas

Linear equation is good because your opponent will absolutely surrender if you pull that shit on them

I love the subtle eye shift that happens when TAA mentioned he fell in love with Eldlich.

Anti-Magic Arrows specifically stops Evenly Matched, since it has to resolve before you can activate Evenly Matched =D

I've never seen LEC before but my understanding from reading it is that it's basically Evenly Matched but you have to do some math and already have a graveyard. Which isn't terrible? Since you can choose the starting number there's probably more situations you could pop this than you would think. But at the very least you're gonna need like... 10 cards in your grave. And 99% of the time it's going to be completely overkill because you're gonna pop it with like 15 cards in your grave when your opponent has like 6 cards on the field.

Magic player here that the YT algorithm dictated I had to see this bc Crim was in it... great vid, 7:29 when Crim dares to make a joke about Yugioh not obeying its own rules I felt that was a bit pot and kettle. The first thing I have to teach magic players is "unless a card says otherwise", bc we don't have rules we have fancy suggestions.

Burning Dragon's discarding 1 spell card might be handy. Although aside from Dragonmaids, I'm not sure where to start. Why Dragonmaids? They got a spell card that if sent to the GY, then it make all dragonmaids untargetable by effects. There's also their fusion card which can be retrieved in exchange of sending one of your dragonmaids back to your hand. The real issue in all of this is that the well is bound to run dry sooner or later, OR you get bricked. Like Polymorization, monster reborn, pot of Avarice and Nurse Dragonmaid and Red Eyes Dark Metal Dragon(?) while going first. Where in which case you can either hope the enemy also bricked and/or surrender immediately.

Funnily enough, Anti-Magic Arrows counters the turn 2 End of Main Phase 1 End of Battle Phase Activate Evenly Matched not saying it's a good idea, but it's funny.

Another awesome video man, keep up this awesome series! Also, would you ever do a vid where a Yugioh Player has to guess MTG cards?

Linear Equation cannon probably would be pretty powerful and people would actually do the math if it wasn't a battle trap. It being a battle trap makes it a worse and more situational drowning mirror force

The fun part of having only been into comp around 2010 and knowing nothing pass 5Ds era stuff means I'm often just as lost as the magic players lol

Anti-magic Arrows had 2 formats where it was good if I recall correctly. Maybe one around 2018 and one around 2021 but I'm not sure. It's an extremely strong card at what it does on paper, it's just in most mathcups it won't actually work. But when it's good, it's amazing.

Burning dragon isn't bad. It's okay. If anything, it's a free special summon that can convert a spell card into a Harvey's feather duster if you don't need it. The only downside to this card is you can't use it on your first turn.

linear equation cannon, if it wasnt for the "during the battle phase" I think it would be played

Tbh now I kinda wanna use Burning Dragon in the side for my Vanquish Soul deck to put in for trap decks. Being a fire might actually make it less garbo

In theory Anti-Magic Arrows would have had a niche use like 10 years ago, but today It just doesn't make any sense. Back when Mirror-Force and it's family of cards were still a thing, this could have been useful. It would have allowed beat-down decks to last just a little bit longer. But these days there are so many better cards and it doesn't do anything against monster effects.

Kinda shocked Crim didnt get the cannoner. Aristocrats decks in mtg love infinte sack effects.

As a Yugioh Boomer who hasnt played much since Yata-Lock, and primarily plays commander as an arch-enemy (and also Dimir player) today, I have never identified with Crim more...

9:36 Evenly matched, or how mtg players know it: [Balance]

Linear Equation Cannon is very easy to understand. It starts with "During the Battle Phase" (and can't be activated from your hand) so you now this card is trash and would be destroyed before even getting the chance to get activated.

That trinity deck box does look pretty fly though, and I don't even play IRL 😂😂

The Canon Soldier burn deck was only good because of Firewall Dragon cause of the non-once per turn condition it use to have. Only then was it really ever used and I'd just attribute it's success to Firewall. You can still do it in Morphtronics but that's a little more difficult but the you'd run Toon Cannon Solider because of Toon Table of Contents to search it out.

This is such a great episode

Dang, Just started the video and hearing his journey has me worried he's already in the know. This ought to be good.

Meltdown over Cannon Soldier is one of the funnies stuff I seen recently

I love his love for Evenly Matched!

"Linear Growth, What am I? A First year?"

I know this sounds weird, but I think Burning Dragon could be a 1 off tech card now that Promethean Princess has been released. It makes Burning Dragon an easy recurring card you can just bring out as part of your combo for security?

I hope they release Differential Equation Railgun to power creep Linear Equation cannon. What you do is you choose a monster on the field, then count the number of cards in your opponents graveyard, then you solve the system of differential equations that is the sum of the derivatives of y up to the number of cards in your opponents GY = 0 under the condition y(0)=ATK where ATK is the ATK of the chosen monsters and if you can find a non-trivial (so y=ATK doesn't count) solution you get to shuffle all cards in your opponent's hand, field and GY into the deck.

As a guy who doesn't play Yugioh much... 1. Linear Equation Cannon sounds absolutely terrible. There's way too much chance going into it. Pretty sure it'd backfire more than it would work. 2. Burning Dragon sounds neat enough, Heavy Storms on summon. 2500 attack on top of that is good. I'd use it if I could fit it in and had nothing else. 3. Cannon Soldier is okay. Not even bad. There's definitely ways to loop it's effect. It's still good. 4. Anti-Magic Arrows is a one-turn Quick-Play Cold Wave. I'd try it out at the very least and if I liked it, I'd keep it. 5. Ancient Fairy Dragon is neato. I know it became busted... and don't remember why at the timing of making this comment. I know I would have used it if I had no more extra deck space and could somehow justify it, though. Edit: And now I get why Ancient Fairy Dragon is crazy. Promotes so much setup!

14:15 it gets better, not all formats banned cannon soldier because : 1: it doesnt matter if you ban the OG because toon cannon soldier is a thing and due ot being a "toon" card is searchable with the toon support namely " table of contents one of the few not OPT search spells that can search other copies it itself. 2: Both variants of Cannon soldier an most main deck cards like it act as a " canary " in the mine where if there is ever an abusive tribute engine popping inot the meta that makes the FTK consistent and viable, its the sign that said tribute engine is overtuned and probably has to be hit in some capacity. for instance the original FTK was a problem because of magical scientis and eventually the Frog engine.

Crim. reacting just like I did when friends were telling me about how modern Yu-Gi-Oh! plays.

If he that reaction to cannon soldier, I wonder what his reaction would be to the fact that Cannon soldier mk-2, an even worse card was banned in the OCG.

Ohhhhhhh Cannon Soldier is just Goblin Bombardment on a stick

You say Cannon Soldier is fine today, but I heavily disagree. Around 2014/2018(whenever Unerrata'ed Firewall was legal), we had Danger Dark World/Goiki Danger Dark World(I forget which) running around, and they were perfectly capable of just playing normally without having to FTK woth cannon soldier(they'd just rip cards out of your hand instead). Every time such a deck is available, and they don't have to have another FTK as a wincon, Cannon Soldier _will_ turn up. Reminder about what happened to Pendulum Magicians and Starving Venom Fusion Dragon Zarc. All of this was before Nibiru, but these days, outside of Master Duel, Nibiru rarely turns up because people figure out how to make their combos under five summons, or just summon a negate under five summons and keep going. The current environment is also very hostile to running Nibiru, because it's a very dead card if you draw into it, and it probably won't come up on turn 3 if you somehow get there. Basically, Cannon Soldier should _really_ get banned, because every time it's turned up, it's never been healthy for the game.

20:48 this is why TCG should copy the way OCG text the numbered effect on OCG make it easier to read

With the amount of graveyard effects now and the fact that it doesn’t give hand knowledge they probably could unban duo without it being completely broken

Konami should amke hard once per turn staple and add text to cards saying you can use then multiple times per turn when needed

You can totally dunk a Rescue-ACE player with a sideboarded Anti-Magic Arrows. Once.

Never seen burning dragon before but heavy storm on legs sounds good

27:20 you forgot to mention it was banned because it wasn't a once per turn and only got of the ban list with the errrata

As someone who last played Yugioh when Monarchs were a thing… YIKES

That deck box is making the very down bad part of me and the very Christian part of me battle internally.... while also somehow fueling each other. I'm surprised seeing it though, one of the reasons I'm less into Magic is I've heard the players in general can be very prudish, stuck up, and basically anti-fun. This was a fun one. I think this is a rare case of somebody actually doing worse because they've played the game and have game knowlege. It's funny too since Canon Soldier was part of the first ever tournament winning deck right from day one and saw dominance for years. In fairness tough, those of us playing on the playground sure didn't know that, let alone how to break it. I wonder how he'd react to the Jinzo archetype?... actually, no I don't, those are some of the worst designed cards ever printed, they'd probably ruin the card for the poor guy. I do not want to be the underpaid underfed intern at Konami who will inevitably need to design cards to force all that Jinzo bloat to be good or at least usable in 5 years (the people who design Hero cards must be on constant suicide watch).

In an Unban Yugioh Tournament, I'm taking Exodia all day.

Crime liking Eldlich makes sense

tell you what, we can unban all the old hand ripping cards like Duo, Confi, etc. but, we have to put all the Ishizu Tearlament cards to 3 as well. Yep, not every attempt to hand rip is just letting your opponent get full Tears off.

Did Crim play against the regional champ, Weevil Underwood?

Ancient fairy dragon would be cracked in a Visas Starfrost deck. Like blow up your primitive or peaceful planet grab primeval planet special summon reino make all the tearlaments plays with a thinned out deck. The only that sucks is that is a level 7, but I guess you could use your ash or bell to make it

Anti Magic Arrows was quite good in Duel Links format for a bit! Fell off rahter quickly though.

having some YGO knowledge up to the beginning of Links, I think there's a good general rule for deciding if a card is good or not. 1) Is it chainable? Like, can you see this card chaining into getting you multiple +1s (adding cards to hand, adding cards to GY, special summoning monsters)? 2) Is it usable during your opponent's turn without too many restrictions? Like, can you activate it from anything your opponent tries to do? And can you activate it before removal effects are used on it? 3) Does it give you value for LP? It doesn't matter how much LP it costs, can it give you +1s, removal, lockdown for LP? 4) Can it disrupt? Can you use this card to majorly disrupt your opponent's intended cycling, chaining, and special summons without being negated, pre-removed, or otherwise ignored? If the answer to any of these questions is yes, a good 85% of the time, it'll range between decent to broken. The 15% is where the meta has a designated counter that you don't know about and the range between decent to broken depends on how good the archetype is that it supports.

I wouldn't say Linear Equation Cannon being bad is the reason it's not being played, it's nearly impossible to resolve in a non-automated duel and would likely result in DQs for people not being able to resolve it properly and would likely be banned if people actually used it.

Every single time I see people bring up Linear Equation Cannon, I'm astounded at the amount of people that don't realize its JUST ALGEBRA; It's literally just y=mx+b!

Fun fact Burning dragon is only considered to be decent in 1 deck which is volcanics. But even then, unfortunately its awful.

Dafuq I saw burning dragon for the first time and think it is actually pretty good in something like cipher dragons you get a free lvl 8 monster plus it destroys back row for a spell and isn't harpyies feather duster at 1

After seeing cannon soldier I am catapult turtling Rah on principle.

Linear Equation Cannon would be decent if it didn't have "During the battle phase".

Odd to put burning dragon in here considering its so new that there hasn't even been opportunity to play it and then not mention its specifically support for the rank 8 deck instead posing it as generic spell trap removal.

Is Crimson wearing a Venom from Marvel shirt or a Venom the metal band shirt?

I want to make one correction, yugioh players can't read. Obviously it's a joke, but I've had multiple situations where someone tried to link summon using my Rusty Bardiche. The last line of text is that it can't be used as link material. Kind of surprised that it's not the first line of text on it like with anything else that can't be used for something.

Cannon soldier has caused more cards to get banned than any card in history lol

saying yugioh players use a lot of brain power to read is being very generous

wait is the cannon soldier monsters and amazoness archer only banned in MD?

It's great that even the Yugioh player has no idea what is good (showing the pretty average Ancient Fairy dragon and saying it's good/was banned because of the unerrata'd version, leaving out that ever happened).

No shot he didn’t know cannon solider was busted

Telefon FTK my beloved

this shall be judged if there are speedroids or not

I remember playing Ancient Fairy Dragon and Zombies, to get Zombie World, And do a lot of graveyard loopings... I mean Ancient Fairy Dragon, Stardust Dragon, heck I even had Red Nova and Quasar at one point in my Zombie deck. Oh and of course fun cards like Level Eater. It was just smack every possible engine into one deck and flood the board with fucked up good cards, be them synchros or XYZ, and then after a few years I quit playing after they banned my favourite card, albeit not a card in my Zombie deck, but I was a Qliphort player... I mean why would they ban Scout, Towers was the evil card.

I noticed that you kinda look like PheonixFlareX, the Dragunity Gigachad, funny isn't it ?

I hate that every card from yugioh is formatted like chains of Mephistopheles from MTG.