The replacement effect of the lich means you don't lose the game for "drawing from an empty library" since you never "draw a card" with lich out, you just "put it into your hand." Semantics, I know, but Magic is VERY specific.
JUDGE!!! At least that's what I'm expecting to hear since my opponent was just waiting for me to mill myself. In fact I spent the entire video worrying about milling out. But yeah, a close read says you are mill-proof. Thanks!
I think you would mill out with this deck since you are placing two cards in the graveyard each time you draw. When you draw 9 cards and 6 go in the graveyard, things pass quickly. Or am I just missing something here? Still, it works well with the Necrotic Wound and the Find!
Your shirt - what you did there: I see it. Sick deck, too. I'm looking less at this deck as written, and more at the engine itself. Muldrotha and lots of reanmination? Jump Start shenanigans? Etrata? Let's go to town, kids!
What is this craziness? Hmm getting the stream ready now for some game play. You know your record this season on stream is like 12-1 your killing it dude
Going live @ 9 central if you want to stop in. And as always the replay will be there for ya. This deck will be a blast when it goes off cards creatures interaction.. sign me up. Oh and the sultai deck won in almost every configuration. Even when i played it at the end of the arena stream. I don't mind 4 drop tribal.
Again, I'd love a video on your approach to play-testing. Sometimes I wonder, in practice, if deck-builders were too optimistic, so it would be great to hear their thought process on their testing results.
@@NoctisB because to lose to mill you have to draw when you would have zero cards... you don't draw with lich. You look at 3 and put one in hand.. not draw.
Azor’s Gateway is INSANE with Underrealm Lich. Trying to reconfigure your R/B Control deck into G/B Control, using kicker creatures like Josu Vess and Hungering Hydra in place of Walking B.
This deck seems alot of fun and well put together. Can startvout budget and do okay, but after next set when the cool simic stuff comes out, I think this deck has a real chance to dominate.
I think Scout is the best Ixalan tribe, because you get Seekers' Squire in addition to Jadelight Ranger and Merfolk Branchwalker. 😁 I found Song of Freyalise in my testing too! It improves the deck dramatically. I'm not sure you sold the mana acceleration aspect hard enough. Playing it turn 3 means the right draw gets Underrealm Lich down on turn four *and* has you swinging in for 10 trampling indestructible on turn 5. Even if you're running Assassin's Trophy in the main deck, Necrotic Wound is still worth SB consideration solely for Rekindling Phoenix. Double black of Vraska's Contempt is tough even in a fully powered manabase.
I watch all ur vids and I don't even play ur format but there is also a large audience in edh that would love a great mind like urs brewing up decks in their format. You should give it a go man.
Neet deck Dev, makes me think of moving underrealm lich to my dimir deck and splash green but that might not work the way i want it to. Off topic but wanted to post for weeks now, Amulet of safekeeping is so good against token/ low cmc decks. I knew what it did but in testing so many people just scoop when it comes out, also makes green ramp not a problem
I've been playing with a manabase calculator spreadsheet I created for Guilds standard and the Seafloor Oracles are killing this manabase. Double Blue on turn 4 is rough. As built, we really want: 2 green sources by turn 3 2 blue sources by turn 4 1 black source by turn 5 Let's say we want to hit each of those milestones in 85% of our games (caveat: this includes keeping 6- and 7-land hands), then our manabase would need: 18 green sources (19 for 90%) 16 blue sources (18 for 90%) 8 black sources (10 for 90%) - if we including sideboard options where you want a black by turn 2, this should be 11 - 13 black sources We can achieve the 85% while ignoring the Comes-Into-Play tapped abilities (to hit 90%, replace 2 Forest with 2 Woodland Stream): 3 Forest 1 Island 1 Swamp 4 Overgrown Tomb 4 Watery Grave 4 Hinterland Harbor 2 Woodland Stream 1 Unclaimed Territory 4 Evolving Wilds I really don't want to run more than 1 Unclaimed Territory (name Shaman if you have green and blue, but no black, because that works for both Kumena and Underrealm Lich), so we end up with 2-4 Woodland Stream and a pretty palty amount of Forests, Islands and Swamps to ensure your checklands CIP untapped. If you pull down to 0 or 1 Seafloor Oracles for something that only requires 1 blue mana, then life gets a lot easier, because you only need 11-13 blue sources to hit a Silvergill Adept on Turn 2. Assuming you still want to run those Evolving Wilds for your Riverwise Augur, we get to drop the Woodland Stream and still hit our mana requirements ~90% of our games: 5 Forest 1 Island 1 Swamp 4 Overgrown Tomb 4 Watery Grave 4 Hinterland Harbor 1 Unclaimed Territory 4 Evolving Wilds For folks looking for the budget version of this, simply replace the pricey dual lands with their CIP alternatives. You'll be playing 1 turn behind most of the time, but you will be able to play most of your cards most games.
I imagine you look at the first three, pick one, then look at the second three pick one, then look at the third three, pick one, and then all of the other cards go to your graveyard together
Ah the gather page for Lich answers this pretty well, my answer is almost right: "If an effect instructs you to draw multiple cards, each draw is performed-and replaced by Underrealm Lich’s ability-one at a time. This means that if you’re drawing two cards, you’ll look at the top three cards of your library, put one into your hand, put the other two into your graveyard, and then repeat the process with the next three cards in your library."
I would definitely like to go fishing, but because most the cards aren't GRN it's gonna be costly got me. All the Merfolk I have kept the last few years like Talrond, Merfolk of the pearl trident etc. aren't in this deck as they're not standard legal. Could this deck form the basis of a modern Merfolk deck or would it need to be gutted and filleted (sorry, couldn't help myself) before being re-cooked for it to perform??
Not ever going to do a drinking game on 'Right now!' in these videos, probably end up in a coma :P … like this deck ! … also, played against the Turbo Surveil deck on Arena ;) … lost only just, but was a nice game... still like that deck a lot !!
Well, okay then. What is this genre you open with? First I notice someone rapping to the Persona 3 Dorm theme, and now we have an Addams Family quote preceding the Zelda 2 Temple theme?
Hey SBMTG. Any chance you could do a modern deck tech? With decks now about $300-$1500 for a deck is crazy expecally for people like students and less fortunate people who have to pinch every penny.
Why would you not play 4 kumena, she is busted if she sticks and even if you draw 2 your opponent has to kill it, so it won't ever be dead (in your hand)
You missed the chance. You should have gone with "Liches get Fishes" Edit: More seriously, would there be a value to a one or two of Gaea's Blessing, to minimize the chance of not having any cards in your library? Worst comes to worst, and you can put 3 cards you may need back into your deck, and draw, but it's ideal against mill. The only card I can see it not working well with is Necrotic Wound, but otherwise, seems stellar to me.
Feel like this is a good budget range though. Not completely nerfed by running sub-optimal cards, but off-beat enough its not a $500 meta-destroyer-of-the-week. That being said, I do love crushing people with a $10 deck...!
If you are gonna be dumping like 8 cards in the graveyard with Litch wouldn't Lotleth Giant be a good finisher, jsut 1 copy shoudl be enough as finding it with Lich's ability should be easy?
The 5 mana Golgari "Taigam, Sidisi's Hand" that has a defense ability that's strictly worse than adanto vanguards instead of the ability that makes that Taigam a threat even in the late game isn't seeing standard play? I wonder why?; but on a serious note WotC f*8ked this creatures identity up in the weirdest way. Paying life to defend itself is very black and its creature type is golgari-esque. After that the identity is a mess. Golgari don't do "Look at the top three and add one to hand and the rest to grave" that sounds like a Dimir card (But search for Azcanta and the commander exclusive Taigam already exist so maybe they didn't wanna replace those cards or add more power to control). Some people would argue "But this guy is better than Taigam cause he says "Whenever you would draw a card..." as opposed to "at the beginning of your upkeep" and I say how exactly am I supposed to trigger this multiple times in golgari colors!? The green draw cards are VERY slow and conditional (Since it seems harmonize is too dangerous to reprint) and the black ones are not bad but they are too niche and clunky to use along side this 5 mana 4/3. To summarize this long paragraph with a simple conclusion..... This card is not awful but is below average for being in colors that don't easily facilitate what he does. When a card with the same cmc outclasses you in almost everyway and at the same rarity then something went wrong when designing this card (The card is Doom Whisperer by the way) I HATE this card for having such an awesome creature type but falling short in stats and with his own effect.
TYS next turn - opt,opt,shock,shock, disperse, lightning strike. Really fun on arena. Or a Brass's bounty before or after some opts so you have more mana.
How this would be better than regular merfolks? Deck lost most merfolk synergy, has higher mana costs and questionable game plan. All for some Lich shenanigans.
well it s cool that brews like that exist don t get me wrong maybe , the appelation or the fact that i m affraid that it will do as a merfolk deck weakier and as a sultai mid weakier , made me say that . i will give it a try on arena i m sure it will be fun anyway
I think you're underestimating lich's effect. Card selection and recurrability aren't to be messed with; these are the kinds of metrics that can win lategames.
