This is how reviews need to be. No big intro or promotions, raw talk amongst men with different views and experiences all using the same equipment. No fluff or editing and no holding back. 👏
I’ve day dreamed about how I would run a YT gun channel if I had an unlimited budget and this one type of review is exactly what I dreamt of. Great job.
The NX8 was made to pack as much optic as possible into the smallest possible body. It is obvious, that this comes with some limitations. After shooting with it for a few days, eyebox is no longer a problem at all (for me it wasn't even at the beginning...). Unfortunately people come with false expectations, take a quick look through it and send it back right away. That's pretty stupid, because most other LPVOs are significantly larger and heavier.
The two dots on the Kahles 3GR reticle are worth getting accustomed to, bottom dot for close shots and top dot at your zero makes it a very quick and intuitive system
For dual focal plane optics, you should check out the March 1-10 shorty. It is still pricey, but much cheaper than the S&B. It is like the fire dot duplex on the second focal plane, with the subtensions (one reticle option is a mil tree) on the first focal plane. No need to worry about moving too fast for a dot. The reticles are just like Norma FFP and SFP. There are just two of them. I believe March also just released a version of their 1.5-15x with the dual focal plane reticle. They’re both fairly new. Maybe next time! Great and thorough review series, thanks.
It’s interesting that if you ask opinions on the FB page they may not match up with all of your observations, most followers there have probably not seen this video and they should. But this was a great review thank you 🤙🏼🍻
Yeah a lot haven’t. We didn’t try to cram it done anybody’s throats lol. We had a lot of fun doing this, and the group helped us immensely with volunteering many of the scopes we used.
These are great reviews, keep it up. I’d really like to buy a VCOG but haven’t come across any in the LGSs. Have the ATACR and it’s awesome, can’t think of any LPVO that’s better. Do also run a Vortex 1-10 and Leupold 1.5-4. Not a NF fanboi but because of the experience with the ATACR 1-8 I’d like to get a mid-range ATACR next
I'm a scope snob. I have thetas, premiers, ZCO, and 4 atacr's, along with a bunch of others. I love optics, but through all my shooting, traveling, matches.. Never had 1 issue with any of my NF... Rock solid
I happen to run across this video while trying to make a decision between the PLXc, NX8 and ATACR. Y'all made some really fine points, but I'm wondering where the Vortex Razor 3 fit in with these scopes. I know it's not a 1-8x, but apparently people cry enough about how everything above 8x is unusable that it may as well be. Also, that S&B sounds like a crap show for $6k optic. Loved the fireside chat!
To be honest, I always liked my razor 10. The 10 isn’t great, but if the rifle is set up properly for you, it’s very useable. That said, when I decided to thin some of my stuff out, it was one of the first to go.
You guys got me scared on the NX8. I have mine on order because my two biggest needs was the daytime illumination and the size and weight. I would have gotten the ATACR, but the price was too much. I think I can work though the tight eyebox, but I will definitely give it a shot.
I already replied in the other video but mine came in and I have no complaints. Mine is the capped version with the FC-DMx reticle. I have. I issues with the eye box or any issues in 1x.
I love the NX8 1-8. Eye box isn’t a problem if it’s mounted correctly. Super compact and the glass is great, even if people say otherwise. I have a few HD scopes and I never thought the NX8 had poor glass quality.
I have a Primary Arms SLX 1-6 SFP and I can say that I wish they didn't have the Chevron. I agree it should be a dot. I find it hard to be precise with the Chevron. They could have a dot and then make the bottom corners of the Chevron just two dots the same etched color as the rest of the drops.
Everyone talks about glass clarity, but in the process of shooting, rarely does glass clarity have much to do with the ability to hit targets consistently unless your using it for low light hunting. Eye box, reticle, precise turrets and easy operation of turrets and magnification are Much more important factors.
I'll give you this, SOCOM does the ATACR, however I wouldn't use that as a measuring stick. Just because they have em doesn't mean they like or use them as far as the majority. It is probably the least used LPVO there...
This video is legit. I've done a lot of this research already, but I watched this mainly for entertainment purposes and I love the way you guys did this video. Thanks for sharing!
I think if youre looking for 1 LPVO for a general purpose rifle and in a SHTF situation you need to make sure its gonna be durable.. you cant beat the VCOG. Its and LPVO and ACOG mixed together
You were being too nice on the NX8, worst scope NF ever made period! People that think this is decent just don't know better or haven't got much experience with others or in general.
@midtiersnobs so can shooting through a paper towel roll, doesn't mean it's good. For its intended application and designed for it falls short on almost everything except for size. When was the last time you had a scope that was too long? Unless your running clip in thermal with a short gun which is less then .1% that possibly can matter, other then that is looks which is irrelevant. I wanted to like mine, unfortunately it was probably the most frustrating scope I ever had.
@@chaoticcaninejb the field of view is significantly larger on the NX8 than the ATACR. Why be upset at it and say it’s the worst scope they’ve made when it’s performance in the category exceeds the ATACR? When shooting both it’s noticeable that the ATACR is worse. As far as the eyebox, who cares? Parallax is awful on lpvo’s. You need to be centered behind the scope to not have poa/poi impacts. Just because you have a sight picture while you’re on the edge of the scope doesn’t mean you need to be taking the shot, because your crosshair isn’t where the round is landing. Being upset that a scope doesn’t allow you to get away with sloppy fundamentals doesn’t seem like a legitimate gripe to me. So what if it forces you to learn how to mount your rifle properly and consistently and minimize parallax error when shooting? Always seemed like a pro to me.
@coltharris8471 As an owner or one ATACR and had a 2nd but sold it, I won't totally disagree with you as some points are valid, however as a whole I think the ATACR is better which my comment still stands as the NX8 being the worst in its class, but mind you I don't have much great things to say about the ATACR easy.
@@ronin2167 I do. However like our Facebook group, we strive to maintain a minimum standard, hence the mid tier name. We don’t have issue with high end stuff, and I’m glad we had the opportunity to review it alongside these other offerings, some of which I consider high end.
So whats the best one our now? 1-8 or 1-10 for both 556/308? Just wondeirnt has anything chamged the past 10 months. I meed to buy 2 LPVO want to grab the same scope for borh the ar15 & ar308
I’ve seen nothing come out that would change my mind in my choices. I guess it would be a matter of budget and intended usage. The atacr was my overall pick and it still is assuming the budget was there.
@@midtiersnobs I think I made up my mind. PA PLX-C 1-8 ACSS. Just run that for a few years and wait to see what comes out later. Just can't fund 2k,3k,4k,5k LPVO with them not being light years away from this PLX with technology moving so fast. I mean buying a vortex 1-10 HD that is 3 years old now at the price point they are still trying to charge to me is just crazy. If I break the PA I can go get it warranty or just buy a new one and still be cheaper than buying a vortex 1-10 LPVO that is already 3years old on the market.
The credo was the only scope we had that had green illumination I believe. The illumination iirc wasn’t super bright. But it checks the rest of your boxes. It’s the green that really does it in for you unfortunately.
@@midtiersnobs I feel like this is a bigger deal than it was made to be. Did it land on concrete? Did it render the optic unusable? Did you snag and photos of it? Would love to see what that looked like. Semi surprising considering the original plx 1-8 survived 5 drops on concrete by Aaron Cowan
@@smashndash9472 it was on concrete. Bench is about 3.5 feet high. It didn’t render it useless, but it did fold over so far I had to bend it back. I didn’t think to take pics like this, it was brand new and I was pretty angry with myself lol
You can get premium 1.5-6×42 or 1.5-8×42 zeiss diavari or hts or meopta or schmidt 1.5-8×42 and the eyebox will be so much bigger AND weight the same or less than most of these lpvos. The problem is most of these lpvo put on huge target turrets with heavy internals and no one literally ever dials with an lpvo. It's stupid. They could remove like 6 oz and still be perfectly rugged. Until then 1.5-6×42 all the way. You should try running one. They are awesome
Opinions are like @ssh@les. I love my Nightforce 1-8x ATACR and like my NX8. And the ATACR DOES have a diopter adjustment. Maybe these comparisons should be done by someone who knows how to actually use them. But I think anyone who's coming at LPVOs the same way they look at Red Dots is doomed to failure. Different tools for different jobs.
You got that right…. The ocular adjustment error was addressed shortly after that statement was made. I don’t edit these to take out mistakes that any of us make. The guy that mentioned that, shot these scopes that day, and that was it. He provided exactly what we wanted, opinions of each scope. Anyone who looks at lpvos as anything but a 1x with magnification IF you need it is doomed to failure. If 1x isn’t important to you, don’t make the lpvo compromise and buy something with better magnification.
