Muffling Techniques for Punchy Toms | Season Three, Episode 1

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Drum sounds are incredibly subjective but they’re also contextually dependent. That solo drum sound you fell in love with on RU-vid isn’t necessarily the best fit when it comes to mixing along with other instruments for a performance, recorded or otherwise. This week we’re exploring some inexpensive options available for different types of tom muffling depending on your needs. And remember, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with using muffling as needed…
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@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Major thanks to the members of our Patreon for making Season Three possible! Join here: www.patreon.com/SOUNDSLIKEADRUM

@gabrielcruz3997 4 года назад

Can you do a video on projection of sound and how to make drums project a large distance, or make them not project as much, say for practicing in an apartment

@arthurazoubel5344 4 года назад

According to my wife, she prefers when I do the ring + tape + bandana + cottom balls stuff

@HidefVince 4 года назад

My wife says that your wife deserves Waaayyyy more 👍for her "I like drums that sound like recycled wet cardboard" contribution to this thread.

@sonnydayz5447 3 года назад

and she keeps the wallet

@arthurazoubel5344 3 года назад

@Bad_Script oh man, I WISH it was. I mean, for real

@philipnestor5034 3 года назад

Maybe even keeping the drums in their cases too!

@lowgradetriplea1620 2 года назад

Probly cause your muffuling the drums

@PatrickWitherow 4 года назад

As much as I love a warm, open tom sound - playing a small venue with bandanas on the toms would be awesome.

@Pro1938ftc3ch 3 года назад

I love playing with bandanas on it controlls the tune so well and I bought 4 bandanas from the 99¢ store and I thought man this is going to not go well.....then when I put them on my drums I don't even regret it and so cheep only $4 spend instead of getting moon gel or gaff tape

@calebneff5777 3 года назад

After watching every video on this channel twice, I think it’s fair to say that’s the best sounding floor tom in the world.

@Chiroman527 3 года назад

Caleb, the Floor Tom tuning is sooooo elusive to me. I have Cheapo Gammon kit. I've tried many different batter and reso heads: G1s clear, G2 coated, and now EC2s ( which work well on the 12 and 13 inch rack toms with 2 moongels on the batter heads, but still can't get that nice dooooo, doooo sound on the Floor Tom. I'm going to try the cloth on the batter head.

@benmasten5924 2 года назад

@@Chiroman527 I've gotten to the point where I don't worry too much about getting my drums to sound like ones i've heard on the internet. Even when they don't use any eq or compression, I just don't think it's feasible to make my drums sound like a recording.

@alexcuellar4185 2 года назад

I've had a cheap-o set for more than ten years at this point and i was of the same mentality until i discovered that pitch app that, i am pretty sure, i picked up from this channel. now i tune to notes and even if it flunks music theory it at least gives the drums a "clean" sound that can sound recorded behind the kit. its not a complete success but its impressive to me that just tuning brought my kit to life. i really do think the awesome sounds are hidden in the nerdy details for those of us without the money to throw at it.

@benmasten5924 2 года назад

@@alexcuellar4185 app name please?

@alexcuellar4185 2 года назад

@@benmasten5924 drum tune pro is what I went to but the first one I tried was freebie vocal one. It was good enough. I have a Korg tuner with a clip on mic top that will do the job on all but the bass drum too. It’s a metronome and tuner combo that was around $60. I don’t recall the model but it’s even backlit!

@ArborGeist 4 года назад

Learned that gaff tape trick years ago at a studio. It really does make a difference when comparing it to a flat piece. These are also great tricks because they are cheap! I keep old snare heads and make re-rings from them.

@Pro1938ftc3ch 4 года назад

Plz tell me what store you get gaff tape and the price cause I want to know

@mikehirst1605 4 года назад

The bandana trick is great. I keep a couple in my stick bag along with a handful of binder clips to clip onto the drum's hoop. Stoked for season three!

@Pro1938ftc3ch 4 года назад

Is it really that good to use I might give it a try

@mikehirst1605 4 года назад

@@Pro1938ftc3ch it's great. I keep a cloth bandana clipped to the hoop of my snare at all times. If I need a a drier sound for a song in our live set it's just a matter of folding the bandana out completely so it covers most of the drum. Next song, need a more open snare sound? Just fold it back up partly or all the way.

@TomBelknapRoc 4 года назад

King Crimson Moonchild is one of my favourites that uses fabric-muted toms heavily.

@peterlamear 4 года назад

Happy to be here for the start of season three! I also sometimes use gaff on my reso heads. If I’m playing a quiet gig and want to have lots of tone but a short note, I tune the top head higher than the bottom and put a small piece of gaff on the bottom. It’s a cool sound! Intend not to like the focus and attack an e ring provides-it’s a way around that issue for me.

@davidsuprenant893 4 года назад

Welcome back fellows,I love mine wide open,but when I have to dial back a little I use them small drum dots.They work great for my kit.

@tillsommerdrums Год назад

What you do with the gaffe tape, I do with moon gels (and similar products). A whole moon gel was always waaaaay too much dampening for me (unbelievable to me that there are people that use multiple gels on one drum...). So I started to cut the gels into small pieces. Somewhere around 1 cm in width and maybe 2,5 cm in length, something like that.That way it is much easier to switch the positioning on the drum compared to gaffe tape. And and somehow a small piece makes the tom sound much beefier while retaining all the the attack and also some overtones. Placing a small piece of gel directly under the microphone can have a huuuuge effect. I always put the piece as close to the edge of the drum as possible and if I want more muffling I just move towards the center. One small piece on snare and rack toms, two to four on the floor toms. On the snare it takes the ringing away that you would sometimes cut out with a EQ. I found that to be the best way do muffle in minimal ways because you can control the amount of muffling so well. And also that way the gels last for a loooong time since I only need small pieces.

@sauzeeee 3 года назад

Came back here after i did the handkerchief muffle, and they're my fave. Easy to adjust and it looks cool; the handkerchiefs are on the kit ever since. Plus they also made my cheap heads sound better lmao.

@jeremyschneider9531 4 года назад

Thanks guys! Couple things jumped out at me: 1) The difference between open, e-rings and tape was barely perceptible to my ears under your close mics, which surprised me. The difference seems more pronounced when I'm sitting at my kit. That was even more true when you played a fill in a groove as opposed to individual hits. 2) The "hankie" scenario sounds terrible to me on individual hits, I like singing toms. But in the groove, it sounded really good!

@ajpain6673 4 года назад

I think this is a really good point.. When youre sitting there messing with your drums for hours trying to get them to sound just right, you gotta remember in the context of playing the full kit live especially with a band you can barely hear the difference. Studio may well be a different matter.

@funkymonks 4 года назад

Ive tried sticking an eq patch on the bottom of drum heads, kinda making a DIY reverse dot, pretty cool on toms

@ayoungethan 2 года назад

1. Muffling is loading mass to the drum 2. Whether that mass is coupled or decoupled from the drum head is important. 3. Non-coupled mass (like a wallet) bounces off the head with harder strikes, providing a sort of gated dry sound, where the drums resonate fully, but for a much shorter duration as the mass falls back onto the head and muffles it. 4. Coupled mass provides a permanent muffling of overtones. Usually the higher overtones get muffled first, so coupled mass produces a darker as well as dryer sound.

@SoundsLikeADrum 2 года назад

Indeed!

@robvriens8812 3 года назад

Great video! The comparison also gives a good example that the sound of the snare changes a lot while muffling the toms.

@Aquarius61 4 года назад

What I "LOVE" about your presentations, is how they are so professional, yet still casual & kewl! You have created just the right balance that makes your channel so compelling. Everything your team has covered I have either noted for future reference,(for issues I know I will eventually run into while recording in our humble home studio)... or implemented immediately. I think this is because you seem as Obsessed will Low Tuning, as I am. Keep up the phenomenal work!

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Thanks so much for the kind words. That means a lot to us! 👊🏻🥁❤️

@Everlongfive 4 года назад

Ah man! That 'drum key - bandana clamp' is amazing!!!! Awesome content as ever. Thank you!

@aphexon. 4 года назад

Still sounds like a drum, Phaaantastic! looking forward to more vids in s3 :D

@otherjonstewartsongs 3 года назад

You do a great job with these. Love them, and have learned a lot.

@Gr8tFul_Dad 3 года назад

In marching band we used weather stripping. I over 20 years later. Still using it to this day.

@jalthealusdavis8762 3 года назад

I use weather stripping too for the toms on my kit. They sound really great.

@MikeMancebo 4 года назад

THANK YOU PATRONS💙

@maryculnane7506 4 года назад

Hi Cody,great channel you say it as it is thanks ,about muffling ,I use small bubble wrap ,cut the bubble wrap to size of drum fix it with tape and put the bubble side onto drum head. Good muffling but you can still hear the drum .Thanks Tim.

@LTColumbOX 4 года назад

Great stuff. Love the bandana/tea towel . Very Ringo.

@aaronmichaels8347 2 года назад

Cody , I've Been watching a lot of your videos lately and i really enjoy how you simplify things instead of using complicated "drum speak" and confusing techniques. I was laughing because i use bandanas over my toms and roll one up on my snare (1/2) .... when i'm playing at home cuz i like the "flat" studio sound .... and i didn't know it was actually a "thing" lol. I thought "if people see this they will think i'm crazy" .... also found that the cotton ball thing really works very well too along with some tape on the batter head. I found if you experiment , you can come up with whatever type of sound you want to get. I have my drums to a point now where they sound like they are mic'd up in a studio ... when i'm actually playing them wide open with muffling !!!! Anyway, just want to say again that i love your vids. Keep up the good work brother

@BadChizzle 4 года назад

Great to see you have so much patreon support. Just so you know... RU-vid is still running adds in your content. Just watched toe nail clippers suddenly right when you were hitting a Magical moment for us. Yikes! Ha ha Very smart content, overall... and always inspiring for me.

@adamtolley5621 4 года назад

What I found really interesting is if I close my eyes and focus on the final comparison I hear the switch between the techniques immediately in how the rest of the kit, especially the snare ring out. It almost has a more profound effect on the snare than the toms themselves. I like and use e rings because they are pretty fool proof and warm, but that gaff tape setup you did was the only method in this video that seemed to increase the definition of the toms, giving them more punch and a short but linear falloff that allowed them to express their full sound while quickly getting out of the way of subsequent notes. good stuff.

@DonnyV77 2 года назад

Also coated vs power pinstripe makes a difference. Also how you tune your bottom head. The bottom head is what is really controlling your tone of the drum.

@beatleszilla 3 года назад

How do you make a video about Tom muffling and not bring up Ringo!!

@Laurence_Balfour 4 года назад

(Un-tested as of yet because I don't have access to my kit) I think I've come to the realisation that I prefer the sound of coated heads for toms. I've always been a 2-ply clear head one moongel kinda guy but it's still been a little 'too-much' if you catch my drift, even though I'm a hard hitting rock player. I've recorded on coated heads and they sounded GREAT and listened to so many things on here and elsewhere with coated where the toms were just 'the sound'.

@gregmowery5051 4 года назад

Coated heads are the way to go. So warm and round.

@johnagutowski 2 года назад

Wish I had this when I was a kid. Golden content. Thanks so much guys!

@DrumFuckerFr Год назад

I'm having a basement gig mid December, with a grunge band. Bandanas it is.

@ianmuessig 4 года назад

Great to have you guys back!

@inkeye1 4 года назад

I've been a bit behind on watching this channel. Congrats on being fully funded by Patreon supporters. Looking forward to catching up.

@evannewell7985 4 года назад

Awesome tips as usual, thanks guys! Btw, I'm heartened to know that your bass pedal squeaks as much as mine does ;-)

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Thanks! Ha- yeah, that's definitely NOT supposed to be like that... 😝 -Ben

@ABandCalledStoned 2 года назад

I like to imagine that my squeaky kick pedal adds character to my beats. Hahaha

@gabejohnston1556 2 года назад

'Finally' gaff tape?? No mention of moon gel....??? In my experience, moon gel is by far the most common drum control method in the studio. It is CRAZY that you left it out.

@poletteh.2803 Месяц назад

thank you!

@jonnieb4260 3 года назад

Sometimes, I like to gaff tape an old sock on my toms. You can control how much of the sock is on the drum and tape it to the rim. I've experimented with dress socks (for a lot of muffling) and ankle socks (less). It looks a little tacky but can sound really good.

@ryangroom2959 3 года назад

Bro, I’ve done the exact same thing?!? I thought I can up with it 😂 Good to know somebody’s on the same page, it really lets the drum open up and then come back down to mute the ringing without making it sound dead

@jonnieb4260 3 года назад

@@ryangroom2959 exactly!

@MyOneManBand 3 года назад

Is there any chance you could do a video dealing with ways to get nice tones from your drums wen playing softly / quietly in an apartment setting.... My own situation means that for volume reasons I can only play at home using nylon brushes and/or at most hotrods... I have followed a great deal of the wonderful videos you have on Tom tining etc, but often what would sound brilliant with sticks can sound very different with nylon brushes etc.

@worldboatskiff8709 4 года назад

I think I’m going to try the gaff tape on the underside of the head, like you showed on your snare drum In a past video

@artcorvolet 4 года назад

I missed that🤔

@richardbartolo2890 4 года назад

Sadly drum makers because of cost, stopped installing the Internal mufflers at the factory on drums back in the late 70's. Many younger drummers don' t like them because the ones they have seen in their lifetime were old and not maintained at all, so they rattled, So in their mind that's how they all worked, Which is not true at all. All you have to do i Maintain them, Just tighten the screw and lock washer and nut down and/or replace the felt if it's worn, and you can Dial in the exact muffled sound, The Gretsch Drum company really made them right, they were all metal with a round felt muffler installed on the top and bottom heads and they really worked well especially on the the Bass drum. Lots of time a mid frequency ring can come from the bottom head as well as the top, Rings will do the job but you cant really get the exact amount of muffling, you get what it gives you, Not so with the internal mufflers. I have a 60's Ludwig kit and they are built into the kit and they work great, Just tighten and oil them once in a while and they last, Mine are 60 years old and work fine. Modern Drummer did an article on them and the drum company's said drilling into the head compromised the shell, That was not the truth, The real reason was cost, for Parts and drilling It was about the bottom line. The holes drilled into the drums required for the internal mufflers were tiny. It was small screw with a lock washer and nut that held them in place.

@adamtolley5621 4 года назад

Cost might be a justifiable factor presently if this feature has fallen heavily out of favor. I know that personally, possibly very incorrectly, associate internal muffling with cheap sets that have bad shell and component acoustics to really dampen all the bad overtones and rattles. I also don't like the idea of something coupling a nicely resonating shell and the head of the drum in some secondary secondary way that might disrupt the natural, air-space interactions of those two surfaces. Put simply a lot of people who have this, again possibly incorrect, perception won't want to pay money for that feature. But that doesn't make your comment any less useful, thanks for giving me something to think about the next time I build or tune a kit.

@richardbartolo2890 4 года назад

@@adamtolley5621 Thanks for the feed back Adam, I feel this way about mufflers because I have a dislike for mid frequency overtones. Every drummer I am sure has the sound he desires in his mind and ear. Because that mid frequency tone drove me crazy the internal mufflers really removed the over ring. As long as you didn't over use it, I especially loved the ones Gretsch installed on their Bass drums, They also use to sell an 6 or 8 inch muffler that attached to the bass drum rim and head, It did a good job. Some kits need the over ring I know Jazz drummers love that over ring , and it works well for them. I guess what it boils down to is what sound works for you and is it enhancing the music or disabling it.

@erictorres4889 4 года назад

I like no muffling on the toms or snare .as far as my bass drums only the muffle ring in the bass drum heads . Nothing inside the bass drums at all .

@kushking420 4 года назад

same i just use a remo powersonic head for my bass drum

@theonygard5694 4 года назад

What heads do you use? Do some heads muffle a little naturaly?

@etikkakurkku 4 года назад

Yeah I can imagine that fits some styles really well! What do you play? Jazz?

@jamessmith-zk4co 4 года назад

I'm a bassist and those tom overtones annoy the hell out of me.

@erictorres4889 4 года назад

james smith well that’s you not everyone . I bet you tell your drummer to dampen his toms don’t you ? It’s all personal preference I love for my toms to ring just like with my 2 bass drums I just like the white ring to do a little muffling and have nothing inside they sound Real boomy like a 24 .

@lcarthel 3 года назад

Please do a video on bass drum beaters and strike pads! Thank you.

@johnlopez3620 3 года назад

Can you please do a Robert sput tuning video. Tuning the deep snare like a floor Tom. Plus the other various ways he tunes his toms.

@PabloJ1968 4 года назад

Awesome.

@TheBonhamesque 4 года назад

Was just looking at the kit Robert plant auctioned off that belonged to John Bonham and the floor toms appear to have tone controls for the reso heads I’m not a Ludwig expert but was this a thing back in the day? Love the drum hacks guys keep up the good work 👍

@ohwow9910 Год назад

How is that floor tom tuned? How many turns on the batter and reso? It sounds incredible

@CoomerGremlinDGGfan 2 года назад

Do a video on thin vs thick drum shellz

@marcusbrown87 4 года назад

Ya didn't do moon gels... I gotta say E-Rings are the best option for getting a solid thud sound, BUT they do sometimes seem to vibrate on the surface of the head which sux when you're recording

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Nope, as we don't use them. These techniques do everything we need and are far cheaper + readily available and have a wide range of uses. BTW- if the studio rings ever vibrate too much, they're probably a little large for the hoop. Cut them down just a sliver on one side and they should function just fine.

@davidbrown9395 4 года назад

Welcome back. Tape sounds best.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Thanks! We dig the tape sound too but "best" really depends on the context, doesn't it?

@Circadianarrhythmia 4 года назад

You should make a video on deep, split shell snares like the Ludwig split colosseum!

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

We'd love to do more Snare Spotlight videos with vintage drums with the support of our Patreon community.

@jack_fernandez_drumz5092 4 года назад

WHoaaaa what cymbals are you using in this video though?

@thomasnappo6309 8 месяцев назад

All good sounds.. 1.tape 2.e rings 3.bandanas

@remygaron8311 2 года назад

I use them to muffle but what i notice is they move when you lay down so i put moongel on top of the muffle ring that i love try it out and comment please thanks for so much info awesome channel i don’t miss one how old is your pearl drum sounds awesome thanks Cody and youre team👏👏👏🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🇨🇦

@thezogs95 4 года назад

Why when I hit my Tom's they sound like cardboard? So annoying because I have them tuned very good but if I strike them hard with my stick you get this crack and the tom sound goes away and all I'm hearing is a big wack. No tone or anything. My floor tom especially sounds very loose and flabby. I have it tuned low but there is no life to it. I find if I put a ton of moon gels on them they sound ok but is there a Way to fix this issue? I'm using Evan's heads is there a head that sounds full even when you hit hard? Sorry kind of hard to explain, I want that tight full mic sound without using mic's. I have none

@belkitabibazen 2 года назад

Thanks for everything..which ride cymbal used is this video?

@mattgoldman911 4 года назад

You forgot the feminine pad. Have you tried it? So Good.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Can’t tell if you’re serious or not... 🤔

@mattgoldman911 4 года назад

Sounds Like A Drum totally serious. I understand it’s the Steely Dan trick. I’ve used it a ton when tracking drums. There’s already adhesive on the pad. It’s sweet.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

@@mattgoldman911 Well there ya go! Not sure that would have met the constraints of what we were featuring here but still a good trick to know about nonetheless. Cheers!

@easternskys 2 года назад

Hello. Where did you get the evans bandanna?

@HenkJanDrums 4 года назад

No mentioned the gel-type, Magn Overtone dampers, adjustable external mute dampers, drum tags, Tama Soft Sound, Evans MIN-EMAD External Mute, Aquarian AQTA1 Tone Tab

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

You're correct! All of these were done with material that's far less expensive by comparison and is worth having around due to the versatility. We also left out Drum Dots, Drumtacs, Meinl Drum Honey, Roots-EQ...etc. There are TONS of products out there and they're not cheap and rarely more effective/reliable than what was highlighted here.

@HenkJanDrums 4 года назад

@@SoundsLikeADrum I often use my wallet on the snare drum. Great to dampen the sound and get loss of all kind of ring. Really like your channel and all the tests. Also like you use Pearl Master Custom Maple and Ludwig Suphraphonic often: i have them and ..like them.

@johncollins5552 4 года назад

Wow, I tune my Tom's much higher tension, the snare not so high as yours but the same bass and floor tom range. Kinda like the single head Tom's and bass drum sound but that said, it's not something I do often. Maybe it's an easier way to get a more dead sound?

@martinhrabal7825 4 года назад

I might have overlooked it...what are the reso heads? And of course: thanks for what you're doing guys! 💚

@gregoryshark 3 года назад

Resonant Heads, or bottom drum heads

@johnrobinson8323 4 года назад

I tend to use drum dots over tape. I like the idea that there is no adhesive being left on the drum head. Where do you get gaft tape? I usually only see duct tape which is partly why I don't often use tape.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Gaff tape doesn't leave residue, which is why it sees so many varied uses. You can get it from any music store or camera/photography store. Duct tape is nightmare- strongly warn against using on anything related to drums. 🙅🏼‍♂️

@BarMorBBOOM 3 года назад

What kit do you play here? It's sounds great!

@AdamStachelek 4 года назад

Great episode. Full on nerd question here. Some drummers (I think I heard Gavin Harrison say this once) prefer to have muffling that’s radially symmetrical around the edge of the head, meaning equal in all directions around the head. So the e-ring definitely does that but your gaff tape example didn’t. Do you think that has an impact on tone if you think about it in that way? Perhaps smaller pieces of tape symmetrical around the edge instead of 1-2 larger pieces?

@AdamStachelek 4 года назад

I’m also a firm believer in gaff being the most versatile.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Thanks! Yes, asymmetrical muffling we will impact the tone but if you're adjusting it based on how it sounds then you'll likely end up with something that you're happy with. At the end of the day, it may be asymmetrical but if it sounds good, that's all that counts. I would place smaller amounts of tape around the entirety of the edge of a drumhead unless that's the sound I'm going for. In a way, the asymmetrical placement can be more effective (especially with greater mass) similar to adjusting a single tension rod. Cheers! -Ben

@Chiroman527 3 года назад

Cody, what are the Batter heads you are using? G2s coated?

@fabiocacchioli9074 4 года назад

I don't really like much muffling on my drums, especially when I'm using drum heads which have muffling or tone control already like a Remo cs dot, powerstroke 3 or an Evans power centre, genera, genera hd on any of my snare drums. Maybe if I'm using an Ambassador on a steel shell. Nothing on my Toms. Maybe a small piece on my floor tom if I'm using just an Ambassador or Emperor. Nothing at all in my bass drum. I like my drums as open as possible.

@miyahollands6136 4 года назад

Hi. A while back, you lined the bearing edge of your snare with gaff tape. I wonder what affect that would have on the tom's? I have used old worn out socks, there's one on my snare right now, suppose it's just like the bandana method!

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

To be clear, we put the tape on the head, NOT the bearing edge. We don't advocate putting tape on the edge itself. We also recommend that more for metal edges, which is why we haven't done it with these toms.

@DrummingMan1 4 года назад

Wide open with small dabs of moon jail proportionate to Tom size for me! Otherwise… GaF on house kits etc. don’t know what it is but, for me, oh rings gather static electricity and I end up wearing them on my clothes are over my head seriously! Can’t stand the things great job welcome back to reality cheers… Keith!

@andrewlindsay9509 4 года назад

Hello! What cymbal and hats are those? Sounding lovely :-)

@doclogic 4 года назад

Any kind of help pad or foam? I've used moongels and drumdots, sometimes even on floor tom bottoms. Also, I think foam rings work better since you don't get that snare like flap from the plastic ring. Too much, then cut it in half or 4ths.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Wouldn't really use a pad or foam on the batter head but we've covered a couple of internal/reso muffling techniques in previous episodes. Haven't had any issues with flapping/audible sound of any sort from the E-rings but that's dependent on the hoops not being undersized. -Ben

@alanduncan1980 4 года назад

How about playing your ride as your snare, your snare as your bass drum, your bass drum as your hi hat, and your hi hat as floor tom. And set up left handed.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

🤔

@brdnrd 8 месяцев назад

I NEVER hear anyone suggesting muffling toms on the inside by putting a handkerchief or something in there, as we do routinely with bass drums. Why wouldn't it work? Has anyone tried it? Is it just a ridiculous idea? (Full disclosure: I have not tried it myself. I though I'd get some feedback before going to the trouble. I do realize that it would be an inconvenient solution to undo.)

@manusouful 4 года назад

thank you

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

You’re quite welcome! Please be sure to share the video with your drummer friends.

@kennethschwartz898 4 года назад

Could you be kind enough to transcribe the first fill you do.. Thank you

@brockevers 4 года назад

Hey you seem like you have knowledge..did I get ripped off?.... I owned and played ended various things to a lot of Greg acrolite snare drum I had a date stamp of 1967 I believe may have been 69 but it sounded great I loved it but being in such hard times I had to sell it and they only gave me $100 for it and I ain't taking such good care of this drum it was perfect shape did I get ripped off?

@stehbenss 3 года назад

Doesn't that snare buzz annoy you?

@assasinator1980 2 года назад

Wait what is that flanger wah effect in the Tom resonance @ 8:14 how is that natural

@SoundsLikeADrum 2 года назад

It's not so much a flange or wah but rather the coexistence of the multiple tones present in creating the full drum sound. The batter head and reso head are each tuned to different pitches and then the full sound of the drum is actually a third pitch created by the phase relationship of the two heads.

@assasinator1980 2 года назад

@@SoundsLikeADrum ohh ok, makes sense... but Is this due to a particular type of micing used here that these sounds cannot be prevented? Because I normally dont hear these in isolated drum tracks. I'm just curious....

@NuDrums 4 года назад

Anyone else hear how the snare detuned at 05:44? Interesting.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

It didn’t actually detune, Cody just didn’t hit a rimshot for that one hit so the perceived pitch was lower. The rest of the hits afterward are at the same pitch as he’s consistently hitting rimshots.

@dannygorman6164 3 года назад

this video is great, thank you. What Pearl model is this set, it's fantastic sounding

@SoundsLikeADrum 3 года назад

Thanks! It’s a Pearl Masters Custom Maple Extra (6-ply) from the early 2000’s.

@Philly505 3 года назад

What drumset do you have? it sounds amazing!

@SoundsLikeADrum 3 года назад

All details in the description

@roofrockas 2 года назад

❤️🤘

@mogglie Год назад

Is it possible to muffle the hihat?

@SoundsLikeADrum Год назад

Yep! We like to use a bandana between the cymbals. You can experiment with various configurations. If you need more muffling on the top cymbal, try running a flag of fabric on the opposing side through the clutch.

@GolddenWaffles 4 года назад

You guys should do a collab with Carter McLean! Btw... I hate this new RU-vid Comment section on the phone tbh...

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

We love Carter! Not sure what we’d collaborate on amidst the pandemic but we’d love to do more in person outside the studio when the opportunity is available.

@jacobfriedman4135 3 года назад

What size is that kick drum?

@SoundsLikeADrum 3 года назад

22x16”

@43dukedog Год назад

I place a 2 “ piece of clear gel tape on the outer edge of the resonant head works great i dont like objects cluttered on my batter heads

@geauxvols 4 года назад

What cymbals do you guys use

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

Custom modified cymbals from Jesse Simpson here in Brooklyn. We'll be doing some work with him in the future as part of our cymbal series exclusively on Patreon.

@geauxvols 4 года назад

@Sounds Like A Drum, nice, they sound really good

@billjay6676 4 года назад

What are you using for overhead mics??

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

We don’t actually have microphones placed in a traditional overhead location but rather a single AKG C414 just over Cody’s shoulder at ear height and distance from the drums in order to provide a realistic representation of the sound heard at the drums.

@billjay6676 4 года назад

@@SoundsLikeADrum Dopeness. Thanks for the quick reply! Love this channel. Been helping me tons.

@SoundsLikeADrum 4 года назад

@@billjay6676 Glad to hear it! If you'd like to support our efforts AND gain access to additional videos (including our new EXCLUSIVE cymbal series), please consider joining our Patreon!