Would that Cossell got the recognition he so richly deserves for bringing heavyweight boxing into the front ranks of sport. Damn good announcer all around.
The left hook by Joe at 37:20 looked like it stunned the hell out of Ali. If that was on the point of the chin he may not be getting up. Ali for this fight could time Joe better. The first fight took so much out of Frazier. Ali is kinda still Ali, sticking and moving. Joe just isn't the same.
Hay un detalle para que Joe no fuera el mismo, habían pasado los mazasos de G.Foreman en medio aun así Alí lo siguió sufriendo a Frazier que era inclaudicable en su ofensiva.
Joe isn't trying as hard because he already got a lot of his system during the first fight. Joe was fueled with total resentment and rage towards Ali during their first fight, while Ali wasn't even taking it seriously. Meanwhile for this second fight, Ali was completely focused, and Frazier just wasn't as much. This fight showed clearly that Ali was better and that his loss was due to not being prepared
I'm watching this from 2023, my father used to say a lot about Ali since my childhood. And now I came to realize that indeed Muhammad Ali was greatest of all time and history had never seen such a great legend and never will see I see.
Not sure about some of the other comments about Ali putting a whooping on Frazier. If you watch closely most of Ali's punches missed due to Frazier's bob and weave. Most Ali's points are counter punches after he breaks off playing rope a dope. But during that time Frazier is scoring body shots. He did land more punches than Frazier but it was a dog fight from beginning to end.
It’s crazy the comments I’m reading, they talk like ali won this fight by like a long shot, most people ringside even had it a draw or thought that Frazier won by MD, I actually think this fight is a draw, considering I took some points off because of the 133 times he held Frazier illegally behind the head
All three fights were classics but after the Foreman fight Joe Frazier was never the same unfortunately George almost decapitated him lifting him off the ground with an uppercut sadly Joe continued as well as Ali . After the Foreman fight Ali should have retired that was his pinnacle. .
This great man DID NOT bend over to the American draft for him to go fighting in Vietnam war they tried to silence his voice FLY LIKE A BUTTERFLY STING LIKE A BEE
Yo creo que efectivamente el arbitro permitio esas numerosas infracciones de tomar el cuello del rival por que era Alí, aparte habia dicho que si no vencía a Frazier, se retiraba, esto empujo a darle las facilidades que tuvo en combate, para mi en los tres combates lo vi superior a Frazier pero Alí hizo su juego y tuvo gran actuación también.
That round two incident with the ref is still a mystery to me. Frazier was hurt and Ali about to put a whoopin on him to stop him and the ref saves him. Wtf?
@@KingdomOfBoxingdamn, you really think ali won this fight clearly? People ringside had it a draw or a MD for Frazier, but ali because he was ali got the decision, same with Norton 2,3 and the scorecards of Manila, ali never really beat Joe or Kenny Norton, he is still the greatest, but he never figured out Norton and couldn’t keep Frazier off long enough
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Exactly also Muhammad Ali was in razor-sharp condition for this January 1974 boxing match he trained more than 2 months for this fight the second fight against Joe where is he only trains for 6 weeks in 1971 after being out for four years when the government robbed him of his best years as a fighter and was trying to throw him in jail. But yes Ellie was not only in much better physical razor sharp fighting condition he also fought a much much smarter fight hit and don't get hit is the whole point of boxing
Interesting difference between this and the 1st fight between these 2 guys. In the first fight there was an experienced, no-nonsense referee named Arthur Mercante. He did a good job overall and he made sure to stop Ali from holding Frazier behind the head and clinching. As we all know, Frazier wore Ali down and got the best of him late. In my opinion, the fact that Ali had to fight nearly every minute of 15 rounds played a role in the outcome, as Frazier did his thing late when Ali slowed down, wasn't allowed to hold and was forced to stand and fight. This fight was only 12 rounds, which benefitted Ali more than Frazier. Aside from, or in addition to that, the referee was young and had only worked one fight as significant as this fight was, to that point in his career. A relative rookie referee in other words, regarding fights of this caliber. The difference between this referee and Arthur Mercante, the referee in their 1st fight, was a major factor in the difference in outcomes of the 2 fights, in my opinion. How could it not have been a major factor in Ali's favor, when he was allowed to hold at his convenience vs. never being allowed to hold in the previous fight? I counted that Ali held 37 times in the first 4 rounds of this fight. With a very rough estimate that 5 seconds passed each time he held, that equals a total of 3 full minutes wasted for doing what they came to do, to throw punches and fight. In effect, that reduced the amount of time available for Frazier to land punches by 1 round out of the 4 so far in the fight, or 25% of the overall time. That's not the only benefit that Ali got from holding. Most of the 37 times in 4 rounds when Ali held, he held behind the neck and pulled Frazier's head to his chest or pushed his head down. That worked to tire out Frazier and prevented him from throwing even one punch while being held in that manner. You can't throw much of anything when your head is held firmly like that. The timing of Ali holding was a factor as well. Ali threw a lot of punches in the first 4 rounds, landing a significant number and taking a rest when he needed it most by holding between each series of punching. Frazier took Ali's shots, but his turn rarely came to fire back because Ali grabbed him each time he came forward to throw punches. While the fight is taking place, none of these things are given much/any attention by the fans, most of which were Ali fans so they didn't care about Ali holding to begin with. I have to wonder if the choice of referee in this fight was a ploy by Ali's camp. It's easy to imagine that a young referee would be intimidated by the aura of Ali, to the degree that he would be hesitant to be strict regarding Ali holding Frazier. I've heard others critique this fight in the same way over the years, including Frazier himself. Joe scoffed at the outcome of this fight, dismissing it as a holding contest rather than a fight. Howard Cosell reinforced the idea that this referee was a ploy by the Ali camp, when he went way overboard introducing the referee before the action began. It was as if Cosell, a known ally of Ali over the years, was trying to influence fight fans regarding the abilities of the referee. The point being that we shouldn't get the idea that this young referee would be intimidated by Ali's presence and therefore be hesitant to be strict regarding Ali holding during the fight. You be the judge, listen to Cosell beginning at 1:32 as he takes 35 seconds praising the work and abilities of the referee, to the extent that he mentions how he positions himself during a fight so as to see everything going on and to have good overall control of the action. It came across to me as propaganda instead of a quick intro for the referee, in the manner in which it's usually done.
Guaooo mi gente que maravilla de pelea de esos gloriosos hombres que están en la historia de la humanidad y en el deporte tenía yo en ése momento 16 años que emoción tan grande al volverla a ver DIOS si as hecho cosas hermosas en este mundo gloria al DIOS del universo y paz a los hombres .Viva el deporte Amen 🙏🏻 y Amen 🙏🏻
You can't stop watching this once You start , it's truly amazing how the stamina of these two Legends went at in all 3 fights ! Young Folks , heres Your template to Greatness, God bless!
Always will and always will be the Greatest of all time .In and out of the ring . What A. Great Worrier Ali was there no one close to him truly pound per pound Ali is the greatest of all times
Ali era increíble marciano estubo en una epoca wn domde no había competencia para el ya que el boxeo no había evolucionado, ali era mas completo en su forma de pelea
Joe had a slightly similar peekaboo boxing style to that of Tyson🤔, body shots finessed with left hook/upper cut, just that Tyson was that good✅, he packed powerful left&right hooks/upper cuts💪🏽, with exquisite speed & movement💯 Ali was a gentle beast😊, smart boxer😎, his jabs🥊were distinct👌🏽, that they bruised & hurt the opponents face🥴, round after round opponent goes to their corner, ice bag is utilized to reduce inflammation & blood is been wiped off their face🤕, tiring the opponent🥵, instilling fear & low self-esteem in opponent😵💫 #AliTheLegend❤
How can someone that defended his title 4 times be considered great? Frazier and Norton confirm Ali’s greatness. By this Joe Louis, Larry Holmes and Evander Holyfield standout. Frazier/Norton’s fame is based on beating Ali once. 3 exciting fights yes but only one great was in it Ali.
That’s just a stupid and moronic thing to say, Norton was great because he beat everyone besides foreman, Frazier was great because he beat everyone besides foreman, ali was great because he beat almost everyone and foreman, ali never won against Norton, and he never beat Frazier like Frazier beat him, the latter of the Frazier ali fights are all razor thin while the first one yes was somewhat close but besides round 1 maybe 2 and 9-11 and maybe 12 Frazier took all the rounds, and don’t get me started on Norton ali 3, if u think ali won that fight you definitely don’t know anything about boxing
Ali u don't have to hold opponent during the fight, u have to make your own space always open when you're fighting. Holding is actually a failure of fighting, which means disqualified. or minus of the points.
Gloria para ambos Apreciación Ali constantemente colocaba su mano sobre el cuello de Frasier ( no estuvo bien ahi Tony Perez como arbitro ) Sin Frazier en esta estapa del boxeo de Ali no hay Ali. Se término la danza de la mariposa Frazier neutralizo todo eso , despues de la tercera pelea Ali ya no fue mas lo que fue ( fue todo un Ali comercial )su etapa habia concluido. Nunca pudo derribar al tio Joe , nunca pudo ganarlo como gano a todos Ali sus luchas sociales lo enaltecieron enormemente Joe cumplio a lo grande en lo boxistico
He continually has his left hand on the back of his opponent's neck which is illegal. I don't know why he wasn't disqualified many times because of that
The referees tended to Let Them Fight. For example before they fight Ali's Corner told the referee to watch the low punches from Joe and the punches on the hips and not one time did the referee take a point away from jail for hitting low or for hitting Ally on the hips or for leading with his head
Both legends gone but will remain in the history of boxing forever we the fans will be long gone and forgotten but these guys are immortal Alis and Frazier's legacy will live on. What great pleasure and enjoyment these great champions gave to the world Most from Ali's team and Frazier's have also passed away may they all rip 🙏🙏
Joe Frazier lo demolió a Alí, por algo le rogaba a su manager no salir a combatir el último round en Manila y gracias a la picardía de A.Dundee que vió que no lo dejaban salir a Joe y lo hizo ponerse de pie a Alí este ganó ese combate que quería abandonar y se desmayo allí arriba, ese era el estado en que había quedado después de esa masacre.
WHAT PEOPLE DONT REALIZE IS THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE SIMULATION OF ABSTRACT REALISM IS IN FACT AN OBVIOUS EXTENSION OF A MORE
Ali was in razor-sharp condition for this January 28th 1974 rematch he also fought a much better tactical boxing match remembering that it's boxing objective is hit and don't get hit. If Allie was in this type of razor-sharp of condition in March of 1971 Joe never wins that first Ali Frazier fight. However Ali only six months back from a four-year layoffs thought the Supreme Court of the United States might be taking away his freedom at the end of March 1971 so he felt he had to try to beat Joe after only being back for a few months after being off for four straight years. you can tell Muhammad Ali was in Tip-Top condition for this rematch and he fought a much smarter more technical fight and one going away. Ali won a minimum of seven rounds in Super Fight II, some scorecards had Ali winning 8 or 9 rounds of the 12. Joe only managed to win only four or five rounds at best!
A great fight in terms of hardcore boxing stuff: angles, counter punching and strategy. Not as hallowed as one and three, but a great fight nonetheless.
I'm not a true Ali fan. Having watched a fair amount of heavyweight fights from all era, the 60's to the present, what one starts to appreciate about Ali is that in the later rounds after seemingly doing nothing but jab, dodge and hold, is how often he finds that flurry that actually takes his opponent out of the fight. It's not pretty, his dancing is almost obnoxious, but to have the power to knock out an opponent late is phenomenal.
He's not my favorite either I think his Era was a little over hyped and rather top heavy with Ali and Frazier being the only 2 that have top 10 qualifications..Foreman had not title reign and only 2 title defenses and fought alot of bums , Norton was good on certain nights but lost 7 times and twice in the 2nd round!...and then you had Bugner, chavalo, Cooper, young, Mathis sr., shavers and a cpl others but compared to 83' to 05' I think not even close. There was way more hall of famers, legit world Champs and top contenders than any other time period in history
But this is his style to tire opponent out then move in late. Ali is a high strategic boxer who is almost unbearable to watch by those who expect a fight. But we watch him because he is so unique and beautiful
The sport is called boxing and therefore you are an idiot to expect anything other than a boxing match. You don't go to a fencing match and expect the type of swashbuckling sword fight in the pirate movies you don't go to a boxing match and expect a back alley brawl or bar room brawl. The sport is called boxing the sweet science. Ali took boxing to another level the way Wilt Chamberlain Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Magic Johnson Larry Bird Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant and LeBron have brought basketball into a new level. The sport of boxing is hit your opponent as much as possible while not getting hit. Muhammad Ali was a master of hitting and not getting hit. It's extremely ignorant to cry and whine about a athlete being so Superior at the sport that he makes it a no contest.. between the 1960s Muhammad Ali when he never got hit and even the nineteen-seventies Ali when he got h i t more Muhammad Ali beat a total of 14 fighters who were good enough to wear the Undisputed or at least part of the World Heavyweight Championship belt. You don't fight any Fighters from his era or any era who came close to that and you don't find any fighter nowadays who has that type of quality of opposition. Ali fought 14 world champions and beat them all and except when Ali was washed up and suffering from early signs of Parkinson's every single fighter that managed to get a decision over Ali got beat in every rematch
Many Comments about Ali holding Frazier on the neck but Frazier was coming in head first right into him, if he didn’t grab his neck than he gets head butted. IMO it was countering one illegal move with another.
Must win for both Ali and Frazier. Greatest always shines though. Fortunately, greatest was put on pause until Manila. Only Ali could beat Foreman. Setting up Manila. Think about it.
@@t.wil.9646 no Frazier and Norton were the first to tag him good with any consistency, it wasn’t until after the “thrilla” that he started getting hit more, with the rope a dope.
There were no 'lights shut off in Ali's head' here ! Ali put up a magnificent performance, on his path back to the world title. If you think Ali took a beating, then you should see pictures of both fighters, after the fight. Ali's face was un- marked, whilst Joe's face was covered in lumps and also cut , swollen mouth.
@@DavidJsmith-dk5tf I know what fight was this guy watching was he hallucinating or something? Ali dominated this fight he didn't pitch a shutout but he won at least seven of the 12 maybe even eight or nine, also it was JOE who almost got knocked down and almost got knocked out at the end of the second round not Ali.
My thoughts on Frazier is he was one of the original steroid users in the game. He died from liver cancer and that type of energy and rage at the time was unique.
