Multiple Accounts Hit By Nijisanji, Rosemi Lovelock & Aster Arcadia Hiatus, Vox Akuma Plans Return 

Wuh

"Dropped" hmm?

Definitely is a sales move

I want to point out that where you said they were "Selling merchandise of terminated members", it shows the Selen merchandise in the picture, but the listings are ONLY for Petra Gurin and then Rosemi Lovelock respectively. Just hoping to clarify in case you missed that!

Had they ever though? All I've seen lately is how delusional they are.

​@@ThatchNetherfold and psychotic. Attacking ex-livers like Maid Mint, Dokibird (obviously), and Matara for "speaking the truth". Not Quinn (aka Kyo) though as far as I know. Favoritism???

@@HeroesofMidgaria-rv6vh Don't forget Sayu who has already told the truth way before the implosion that is Selen's termination. PS: Don't forget to spread some love to Sayu.

they dont want X to be filled with NIJIMEMEs from the concert i think.. pffft

😅

Cover understands how free advertisement works, it will get people to buy the VOD for views. Niji blocked it cause they knew how bad it looked.

Not just Ok, they actively encourage it.

because while cover is in no way perfect, they do have a fantastic PR team.

Considering Niji themselves have already encouraged screenshots in the past for other events, it's pretty clear that they chose not to allow it this time because they knew how hard they would be memed if they allowed it, considering how bad it was production wise.

Not just ok, some gifs from the paid part survives, like Korone's no hands flip and Laplus falling. Because that's free advertisement that'll get people to buy tickets.

TBF I remember from my days as a brony when youtube took down and official video from Hasbro's channel

@@Kolbjornelenano youtubes copyright system is fairly broken, to the point that third parties can easily take down videos because they dont like them.

@@Kolbjornelenanowouldn't be surprised and those are 100% of the time a mixup between copyright holders and either agencies they work through to track down dmca violations, automated systems employed by the holders and/or agencies, or both. youtube's the most prominent, but i've seen it on many other platforms

That until you remember that an official Nintendo account got copyright claimed on twitter because of a video that had a TLOZ theme in it

Hehheheehehhe, one of my favorite moments of this was when Metallica (tried to) put on a live concert on Twitch, and the stream got muted/blocked for copyright violation of Metallica's songs. Eat shit, fuckers.

It would be funny if all the talents actually have a razael version of their own

It's a reputation hit they deserve and it will take a long time to EARN that trust back.

@@SelecaoOfMidas They won't earn it back lmao, They're all going to eventually leave Kurosanji, Just a matter of WHEN that happens, It could be a year from now for all we know, Prob cause of contracts and all that jazz.

​@@SelecaoOfMidas I hope they won't. They literally abuse people to the brink of suicide attempts. The only time we all should forgive them is when we know the victims forgave them, while currently even sayu haven't forgave any of them.

@@Joshuamiller19570 while possible it’ll take a long time the livers have their rep tarnished and at this point it’s easier to stay then go I still hope they leave but it might take a long time

They're basically like what AEW is doing but WORSE.

I just don't understand how every effort isn't being made to smooth things over with the public after everything that's happened. Their losses in revenue are undeniable, I've been in the streams lately and engagement level is dire in some cases. One of their bigger EN talents had less than half the viewership of one of Idol's, and Idol ain't a large company with a long history in the industry, not like Niji is.

​@@Gakusangitbf Rin's numbers could suplex a whole smaller wave of Niji EN, even before it started sinking.

I think the truth is that the Niji EN branch doesn't have much of a positive side to show, and the positivity of the talents is the only reason we ever thought it did.

They private the AR live cause they know it flopped. Can't look bad after all..

The same would have to apply to Petra then no? Didn't she do the same

​@@tylerensminger Keyword: favoritism

I love and hate how good we have became picking up minutest clues leading to a stealth suspension.

​@tylerensminger but Petra sold her soul to Tatsuki. Her kami oshi. See her one stream.

Rosemi also had her 3D debut, her 500K milestone and a PC case collaboration recently fucked over by all the Nijisanji drama, on top of quite possibly being resentful of how Selen/Doki has been treated by the company and other livers. This could be a legitimate break given all of that happening basically at once and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if she's just timing out her graduation at this point. I wonder what place in the queue she is?

That’s what *I* said!

Are you implying that the ever-truthful and trustworthy management would lie to their talents?

It has been assumed now that it was a part of the exit contract of the former livers (except Doki cause she never signed one) that any content made with their voice before graduation is free use by Niji.

The implication is that Selen is intentionally left out while the other graduated talents were okay. Which fuels the bullying speculation from my perspective.

which team again?

North Korea pulled it off

@@lexmarks567 bcuz they have nuke

​@@lexmarks567 yeah but that's North Korea, niji isn't that large nor dictator-ey (ish)

North korea had a headstart long before internet was made tho

@@lexmarks567 They control everything from your handwritten letters to your internet access. They control everything within the country. They are not even close to the same.

It's like they can't JUST have a good thing, they have to have bad things to counter-balance it.

That's how I feel. I remember how caring they can be, and was reminded by them helping out Fulgur, BUT that doesn't change the atrocious actions they have done. I hope they could see a redemption, but if +1 forward, -5 back is what to expect, then it's time to accept that they are doomed as a english branch, and for their reputation.

Honestly at this point I'm almost expecting it to come out they keep him around so they can push him down stairs cause they find it funny.

if u dont mind, what do yall mean by helping out fulgar? dont know much about whats going on

@@doppomori_ he can't make it physically, but they helpee him show up in was he could. Making him feel love and cared for and they they wanted him at the AR

To be fair I've seen some people who genuinely enjoy the show being replied by people saying how bad it is

​@@devaraftI mean it is BAD BAD, like at the very least, you SHOULDN'T have pay a HoloFES ticket price for that sorry of a show...a show that supposedly airing LAST YEAR, with muted music, missing person, and Bad production all around, like cmon there's no way those supposed to be "Nijifans" didnt do a single look on their JP senpai 3D? Bcs even using that as standard, AR live model are looks like Utter garbage

@@FuMiO02110 Not to mention that Niji had an entire year to reset the pre-recorded live for the better and all they did was mass editing out of pure laziness. Hololive was definitely way better than this, not only they would redo the whole thing if necessary, they'd also add more whenever possible, even politely asking their talents if they would so as well. PS: The laziness is also shown in how desperate they are to sell merchs which included Pomu's and Selen's whom we've already moved on from.

Hey man, you can’t say that. I hear it’s racist or sexist or some other -ist or some shit.

😂​@@DrunkOnRatPoison

Very optimistic view. Personally, I think many of them are legitimately taking mental health breaks due to all of their success steadily crumbling away, regardless if they did anything wrong or not, or Kurosanji management just gave a bunch of EN members "mandated breaks" since the EN branch has pretty much destroyed their reputation as a company irreparably. Also, if the rrats are to be believed, several members have nothing to talk about in regards to their contracts anyways because they've already been waiting for their own graduations, but are stuck in the "graduation queue" so to speak.

No doubt in my mind that a bunch of them have become disillusioned with their company after seeing Dokibird's success.

Rn the talent need to held hand together and fight for themself out of that black company

remember though, 'our lord' said you can leave ANY time that you want, right? so don't worry, I'm sure everyone is perfectly happy there and definitely not locked into a near slave labour level contract that forces them to wait until they are allowed to graduate. That would be just silly!

@@seanread5556 Given how similar to Japanese idol culture it is, it wouldn't be surprising if they were trying to kill off the EN branch. One of the conditions for such is: "Personal Lives and Images can be tightly controlled by their talent agencies"

I went back to double check, and Phase Connect's first 3D Pippa model looked better than a lot of these. And this was when they were barely a year old.

Have you seen Zen tracking?

​@@tylersutton2216tht high level shyt that niji can't even comprehend

^This right here.

And it would have been the full thing. There wouldn't be anything with a Mysta's voice slipping in, and Rosemi wouldn't have had her parts reduced because the needed to edit out Selen.

Well, I think any illusion of sympathy already went out the window when he called the colleague who almost died due to bullying a liar. Dude gives no fucks about her, that much is clear imho

@@Triforce4ever his fans are all mentally ill femcels. Doki dying would've just been another woman out of their way, at most.

"I tried and failed to demise my coworker, boohoo, I hope she does it again" -all of Kurosanji

@@Triforce4ever who said that?

@@signumxmagnum Vox said Doki was lying about everything when he was handed private documents including, presumably, medical stuff. In the Black Screen video.

Seems like Sinking the yacht same as Sinking The Bismarck/Yamato at this point😂

Oy. At least the Bismarck achieved some actual shit related to its job. Same for the "Hotel" (cough) Yamato, it was a pristine and perfectly working vessel. Riku's Yatch has more holes than Swiss Cheese after an A-10 Brrrrrrt it, and it can't even be displayed with pride because it is sinking deeper than the Mariannas trench, while on fire in the water.

​@@andrehashimoto8056 at least a certain submarine had *some* effort to make it work a while... even with a game controller and shoddy craftsmanship. if the people who made the submarine were people that knew a thing or two about making anything, they would've had a good thing going. the yacht wouldn't even survive being two inches underwater without capsizing or snapping itself like a wafer from the weight of the clique's egos and mistakes. so it's a miracle that damage control, or lack thereof, is being done at all on such a sad rotten tub. [cue "Leave her, Johnny"]

Downfall edit when

@@azutsukimiya we're gonna need a whole ass transcript for the parody lmao

Exactly, underrated comment here. It just confirms that EN management is Japanese, having old Japanese mentality.

So it is that common in JP companies? however this policy shows that Nijisanji fail to adapt English speaking entertainment market where Words of Mouth can make or break a sale.

@@Masitu0031 god damn, I had such lengthy reply to this youtube wouldn't let me post it. Never knew youtube had a post limit. have a long answer: TL;DR Most japanese companies will take down pictures etc even if they have some interest in the west. Most japanese companies with significant interest in expanding an internatial market or have already done so will allow the free advertisement if they are not hampered down by stubborn sistercompanies, partners or managers. It is common practice, but the western influence on this subject is (in babysteps) changing the current japanese business practices, more often if they are led by younger managers or managers with international working experience. Keep in mind, I only work for one company with one type of product and thus can't accurately make claims about other companies (even though I did in fact do that) honestly, it depends on the company. Yes, this is the case in a vast majority of japanese companies. However this is mostly companies without a branch outside of Japan, or sometimes a few other Asian countries. The number of companies that do this lower when you start looking at companies that have a European, Canadian or American branch (probably other places too but I can't attest to that). However, even with companies that have these branches I do think (I don't actually have numbers) the majority often still do this. It also depends on if they see the western market as important to their bottom line. My company for example (I am not allowed to reveal it's name on the internet while under contract) does not see a lot of money come from it's western expansion and thus does not really care to learn the ins- and outs. It is still beneficial to them and makes them a profit so my job is pretty secure, however it does not have much of a possibility to expand and maintain profits. Unfortunately this has consequeses to how they do business even in other markets (still stupid they claim copyrightes material from their own company). Meanwhile other companies, such as forexample New Japan Pro Wrestling also tend to take down a lot of gifs and pictures. They have (or at least had before the pandemic and an increase in the quality and amount of American based competition, they are rebuilding now) a significant amount of interest into their American expansion (they seem to have pivoted to China, South East Asia and Australia while working on maintaining their current US market to make up for the US market loss). They aren't actually the ones issueing copyright claims, rather, this is done by TV Asahi, who owns the TV rights to New Japan Pro Wrestling in Japan and does not do business outside of Japan. So we have a company who want to expand into the west who are denied free advertising because another company does not.

@@Masitu0031 Meanwhile we have companies like Cover, who have significant interest in the west, and have succeeded in that market. They likely have employees whose sole job is understanding the western market and thus will allow pictures, gifs, fanart (yes, some companies will take down even fanart), etc. Cover tends to go even beyond a lot companies in similar positions to it by (somewhat) matching how they do their business overseas with how they do their business at home and highly encourage cross market advertisements. Holo JP is aimed at Japan, Holo ID is aimed at Indonesia and Holo EN is aimed at the entire western culture. These are their main aims. However, as you probably know, they cross these markets. All three branches have found an audiance in all three markets. They have crossed these so significantly see I doubt Yagoo and any other higher-ups at Cover really see these as different markets. They understand that if they treat them the same they triple each branch market. A lot of Japanese companies would not do this. In fact, I can also use Cover as a company that doesn't do this by looking at HoloStars. HoloStars and HoloLive barely do any crossover in JP. They do some, but not really any noteworthy amount. ID doesn't have a HoloStars branch (though I imagine if they did they would go about the same way they do with EN rather than JP). Now, EN also doesn't do a lot of HoloStars-HoloLive crossover, but they do more than JP. I think if they had kept JP and EN completely seperate to a degree that HoloEN would have had it's "Holo" part removed with another word, they might have done more colabs between the guys and girls, then again, the product is still vtubers and western fans can get just ad crazy about this as jp idol fans, so I can't be sure. Granted, this particular product, vtubers, is a lot easier to do this with than some other companies products. I do believe a lot of companies with a significance interest in the western market will allow this. Not only does it work as advertisement to reach a vast amount of potential internatial customers. Most have learned that denying people the right to express themselves is a significant detriment due to the western culture. Statistics have shown that overly copyright claiming can decrease people's want to support that company in the future if their product is average and below. This does not sound significant, but there are a lot of companies with average products. Simply the nature of the beast. Companies that understand western copyright systems will do better even if the quality of the product is about equal when compared to a company that does not even with equal knowledge on both companies (so it's not the free advertisement that is actually beneficial for most companies). This doesn't really apply to some companies like Nintendo (as their products are often good enough to nullify this detriment). However, even Nintendo's outlook at copyright is has become more westernised than it used to be. I know from the experiences of some of my friends that not everyone feels the difference, but are taking steps and doing it slowly. If I look at their practices from around the time I was born, the difference is staggering. Same goes with some anime distribution companies. They have westernised to a noteworthy level, even if it still seems they are ridiculously far removed, which in all fairness, they still are. Obviously they still copyright claim some abridgeseries and the like, however less so than they used to, and I rarely see them claim singular pictures or soundless gifs anymore, which they used to do a lot. These changes these companies have made are starting to seep into the japanese culture at home. Though, it is taking a slow pace and always will take a slow pace. I also highly doubt it will ever match the west's believes to how copyright should be handled. And we will forever complain about it. But small changes really do have a lot impact, even if not noticed by those that don't have to with this on a daily basis. Granted, this information should not be taken as fact. I really only have any true knowledge over my own companie's product (toys) and can't even say that I have definitive say on that subject. All information I provided should be taken with a grain of salt as I'm just one person, but I do believe my position in my branch provides me with enough to make accurate gestimations about other companies to a certain extent. There is a reason I did not provide statistics, that being that I simply do not have them and am talking purely on guesses. Informed guesses based on experience, but nonetheless, still guesses. Now on my opinion on Niji based on my zero knowledge on vtuber statistics, metrics, costs and potential and actual profits. Call me for a more knowledgible report when they start selling toys. Their quarterly earnings on that might be noteworthy to me if they start doing that. Personally, I believe Niji has been partially abandoning it's non JP markets for a while now. For example merching it's Indonesian and Korean branch into it's Japanese one. I could easily see them hoping that their EN brach would fulfil any new customers coming from those two countries and thus not were not considering it pulling out of the Indonesian and Korean markets. I personally belief Cover is also somewhat doing this with HoloID, but to a far lesser extent than Niji. Then again, I also thought this before gen 3 and they still came out with that and since it was aimed at Indonesia, it was probably profitable. But honestly I am not sure ID is/was making a good enough impact for either AnyColor or Cover. I have zero clues about Vtuber metrics though, so I might be very off. Also, I can easily be clouded by my western view. Indonesia is a giant market. Probably one if not the biggest often overlooked market. It is especially overlooked by the west. Indonesia has enough potential customers that even if something does very badly there it can still make more money than somewhere that same product does good. Anyways, I got off-track. Niji has in the past allowed screenshots but aren't allowing it now. This is more evidence to them possibly partially pulling out of the western market. I know that even if the entire western market stops supporting them, NijiEN is watched enough by other big markets, such as forexample China. On top of that, I believe the majority of EN talent are multilingual, if necesary they can make a profit by streaming in different languages. Though, that's probably a late option. Niji's most probable prefered option would be a refocus on japan while keeping a foot open into the west at a later time. Probably a few years after, people will forget. They really will. These kind of things happen a lot. Not just japan, internationally as well. As long as they EN keeps making some kind of profit even if it is a singular dollar they might just keep it up. A door ajar is simply cheaper to open than a door closed. Common business tactic. It would probably be better for them if they could just keep it completely open right now but by this point the backlash might be too big for that. If it was just Selen that left under this circumstance and they didn't lose many other livers like Pomu, FoxMom (only remember her new name tbh), Mysta, and such, Niji probably could have kept going and their belief it Selen wouldn't harm their numbers probably would have been right in the long term (even though I hate that). It would have hurt them in the short term, yes, definitely, but one setback, even a giant Selen-sized one, is not large enough to knock over most companies big enough to have international branches. It's often the accumulation of smaller setbacks capped of by a large one that does it. And in this case, the setbacks kept coming, the black screen video (absolutely business malpractice) Pomu and Kyo graduated after, the Uki thing, the Luca thing, now this. Quite frankly, had none of the rest happened, very little people would have cared enough to have not being allowed to make screenshots give a large enough setback. It would have been on vtuber news, people would complain, week would be over, next drama. But people will remember this now. Whenever they list Niji's stupid ideas, they will probably either add "no screenshots" or someone will comment to add it to the list. But this only matters if they care about the western market, which they might have already decided to abandon. Hope this provides more than enough information on what you wanted.

@@Masitu0031 Meanwhile we have companies like Cover, who have significant interest in the west, and have succeeded in that market. They likely have employees whose sole job is understanding the western market and thus will allow pictures, gifs, fanart (yes, some companies will take down even fanart), etc. Cover tends to go even beyond a lot companies in similar positions to it by (somewhat) matching how they do their business overseas with how they do their business at home and highly encourage cross market advertisements. Holo JP is aimed at Japan, Holo ID is aimed at Indonesia and Holo EN is aimed at the entire western culture. These are their main aims. However, as you probably know, they cross these markets. All three branches have found an audiance in all three markets. They have crossed these so significantly see I doubt Yagoo and any other higher-ups at Cover really see these as different markets. They understand that if they treat them the same they triple each branch market. A lot of Japanese companies would not do this. In fact, I can also use Cover as a company that doesn't do this by looking at HoloStars. HoloStars and HoloLive barely do any crossover in JP. They do some, but not really any noteworthy amount. ID doesn't have a HoloStars branch (though I imagine if they did they would go about the same way they do with EN rather than JP). Now, EN also doesn't do a lot of HoloStars-HoloLive crossover, but they do more than JP. I think if they had kept JP and EN completely seperate to a degree that HoloEN would have had it's "Holo" part removed with another word, they might have done more colabs between the guys and girls, then again, the product is still vtubers and western fans can get just ad crazy about this as jp idol fans, so I can't be sure. Granted, this particular product, vtubers, is a lot easier to do this with than some other companies products. I do believe a lot of companies with a significance interest in the western market will allow this. Not only does it work as advertisement to reach a vast amount of potential internatial customers. Most have learned that denying people the right to express themselves is a significant detriment due to the western culture. Statistics have shown that overly copyright claiming can decrease people's want to support that company in the future if their product is average and below. This does not sound significant, but there are a lot of companies with average products. Simply the nature of the beast. Companies that understand western copyright systems will do better even if the quality of the product is about equal when compared to a company that does not even with equal knowledge on both companies (so it's not the free advertisement that is actually beneficial for most companies). This doesn't really apply to some companies like Nintendo (as their products are often good enough to nullify this detriment). However, even Nintendo's outlook at copyright is has become more westernised than it used to be. I know from the experiences of some of my friends that not everyone feels the difference, but are taking steps and doing it slowly. If I look at their practices from around the time I was born, the difference is staggering. Same goes with some anime distribution companies. They have westernised to a noteworthy level, even if it still seems they are ridiculously far removed, which in all fairness, they still are. Obviously they still copyright claim some abridgeseries and the like, however less so than they used to, and I rarely see them claim singular pictures or soundless gifs anymore, which they used to do a lot. These changes these companies have made are starting to seep into the japanese culture at home. Though, it is taking a slow pace and always will take a slow pace. I also highly doubt it will ever match the west's believes to how copyright should be handled. And we will forever complain about it. But small changes really do have a lot impact, even if not noticed by those that don't have to with this on a daily basis. Granted, this information should not be taken as fact. I really only have any true knowledge over my own companie's product (toys) and can't even say that I have definitive say on that subject. All information I provided should be taken with a grain of salt as I'm just one person, but I do believe my position in my branch provides me with enough to make accurate gestimations about other companies to a certain extent. There is a reason I did not provide statistics, that being that I simply do not have them and am talking purely on guesses. Informed guesses based on experience, but nonetheless, still guesses. Now on my opinion on Niji based on my zero knowledge on vtuber statistics, metrics, costs and potential and actual profits. Call me for a more knowledgible report when they start selling toys. Their quarterly earnings on that might be noteworthy to me if they start doing that. Personally, I believe Niji has been partially abandoning it's non JP markets for a while now. For example merching it's Indonesian and Korean branch into it's Japanese one. I could easily see them hoping that their EN brach would fulfil any new customers coming from those two countries and thus not were not considering it pulling out of the Indonesian and Korean markets. I personally belief Cover is also somewhat doing this with HoloID, but to a far lesser extent than Niji. Then again, I also thought this before gen 3 and they still came out with that and since it was aimed at Indonesia, it was probably profitable. But honestly I am not sure ID is/was making a good enough impact for either AnyColor or Cover. I have zero clues about Vtuber metrics though, so I might be very off. Also, I can easily be clouded by my western view. Indonesia is a giant market. Probably one if not the biggest often overlooked market. It is especially overlooked by the west. Indonesia has enough potential customers that even if something does very badly there it can still make more money than somewhere that same product does good. Anyways, I got off-track. Niji has in the past allowed screenshots but aren't allowing it now. This is more evidence to them possibly partially pulling out of the western market. I know that even if the entire western market stops supporting them, NijiEN is watched enough by other big markets, such as forexample China. On top of that, I believe the majority of EN talent are multilingual, if necesary they can make a profit by streaming in different languages. Though, that's probably a late option. Niji's most probable prefered option would be a refocus on japan while keeping a foot open into the west at a later time. Probably a few years after, people will forget. They really will. These kind of things happen a lot. Not just japan, internationally as well. As long as they EN keeps making some kind of profit even if it is a singular dollar they might just keep it up. A door ajar is simply cheaper to open than a door closed. Common business tactic. It would probably be better for them if they could just keep it completely open right now but by this point the backlash might be too big for that. If it was just Selen that left under this circumstance and they didn't lose many other livers like Pomu, FoxMom (only remember her new name tbh), Mysta, and such, Niji probably could have kept going and their belief it Selen wouldn't harm their numbers probably would have been right in the long term (even though I hate that). It would have hurt them in the short term, yes, definitely, but one setback, even a giant Selen-sized one, is not large enough to knock over most companies big enough to have international branches. It's often the accumulation of smaller setbacks capped of by a large one that does it. And in this case, the setbacks kept coming, the black screen video (absolutely business malpractice) Pomu and Kyo graduated after, the Uki thing, the Luca thing, now this. Quite frankly, had none of the rest happened, very little people would have cared enough to have not being allowed to make screenshots give a large enough setback. It would have been on vtuber news, people would complain, week would be over, next drama. But people will remember this now. Whenever they list Niji's stupid ideas, they will probably either add "no screenshots" or someone will comment to add it to the list. But this only matters if they care about the western market, which they might have already decided to abandon. Hope this provides more than enough information on what you wanted.

I mean it could go like Doki with Apex where she was immediately contacted by Apex folk, same could and likely would happen for Rosemi. Assuming tekken is interested in her and not the Niji brand.

Watch her become the Official Bandai-Namco Tekken Vtuber

if doki can get pelted with sponserships left right and center after getting fired, Rosemi will absolutely be noticed by harada if she graduates

We all hope that some of them have brighter things to move onto after all of this is behind them, in whatever form they take.

@@Arassar that would probably be the biggest L niji could take. Ingami Korone is alos a Official spartner of sega. So it's not like it's a prohibited thing

Anything to prevent the worst of Judgement Day.

There's definitely going to be bloodshed when Q4 ends and *especially* when the earnings call for it happens umless Anycolor can pull off a literal "at the buzzer" miracle

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Not even desperation, this is an escalation of blunders. It's like they don't know what they are doing anymore with their talents and company as a whole.

death throws of a branch

nah it is a concerted counterattack.

​@@teruienages962what do you mean with you guys? You mean nijisanji fans? Haters or what?

The TwitX post Gura made may or may not have been a Jab at NijisanjiEN, but given how She's been the Target of many Attacks by NijiEN Supporters in the Past, I wouldn't put it past her to have Personally Timed the Stream to stick it to NijiEN... ...If it Was an Intentional Act, it was likely Solely Perpetrated by Gura, and had nothing to do with HoloLive or the other Members of S.N.O.T....

Weak

take care of your mental health first.

take a breather buddy. Your mental goes above everything

The gym is waiting for you!

Fatigue in what way? Being a NijiEn fan or watching NijiEN drama?

Not everything coming out of Niji is bad, but they've had some pretty awful blunders lately and hope they're at least working on getting a decent PR department together after everything that's happened. I'm concerned about talents that are guilty of nothing but working for Niji getting caught in the crossfire.

It reminds me why I started watching NijiEN in the first place. But now it all just feels like a dream.

They got him to write a few paragraphs great.

but the cynic in me wonders if they would have done the same if it was one of the female talents with a disability...

Gonna be a schizo here but i feel like they did it since he was a guy and he pulls numbers or they did it to get some pr

Child: Aight, imma go become a Vshojo member. Mom: W-wait, that's in breach of the Contract! Child: That shit is unenforceable, fight me!

Wasn't it a trope in many fantasy series/stories where if you bathe yourself with the blood of dragons, it will grant you some unique powers/abilities? 🤔🤣🤣

@zayd4078 I think so, so far it's just giving them the power to tank their stocks 🤣

The power to destroy themselves further lmao ​@@zayd4078

@@waylonmcclure I guess it was a dying breath curse then

​@@zayd4078In the Völsung saga of Norse myth, Sigurd (/Siegfried) bathes in Fafnir's blood after he slays the dragon. Thanks to this, he becomes invulnerable, save for a small spot on his back where a leaf had stuck to him. Perhaps unsurprisingly, this spot ends up being his downfall.

False is really not holding back on the sarcasm levels in this video. Its leaking here and there.

The trend has set. False is probably very giddy that what almost nuked his career years ago, now finds itself in a situation where THEY may be the ones whose career ends. 2024 first half may be when we see a Titan of the Vtubing industry be slain, by its own hubris no less. Sadly this may cause some undesirable shockwaves in the weakened JP economy, what with their Yen cratering.

NGL, I think it's probably mostly because only Nijisisters watch Vox.

Also the model, that plus the accent makes him "uncancelable" unless his irl face gets out there and he doesn't look like his model, like what happened to corpse.

And the worst part is, their own company is the one that made them front and center. Names hadn't been named, so what did they expect would happen when you get people coming forward publicly and saying their names were on the paper.

I did notice that only a few people ever pushed back against Vox's involvement in the "Message" stream. Idk if I'd go as far as "misogynistic" but that is a personal matter dealt with later. What I do agree with is there is clearly someone or something at play if he can just come back like nothing happened. Elira is gone for 2 months, and is constantly losing subs, so why isn't Vox and Ike suffering the same fates? I don't wish it, but it feels like karma had a target in mind, and ignored the others in this case.

Most likely because a lot already know that Vox is a PoS lol. They got blindsided by Elira reinforcing the rrat. Nobody cares about Ike lmao.

What's left of NijiEN's talents on a paid pre-recorded concert < one SNOT collab that is free to watch

@@ThatchNetherfold It's not about the paid part of the concert. Not even the free part of the concert everyone could watch could compete with Gura.

@@Insanati But to add a little bit of compassion, there aren't a lot of people just in general that can draw an audience like that after having not streamed much previously. So tiny little bit of compassion for the com-wait, what are they doing now GDI Niji....

@@Insanati Cold, but fair enough.

When looking back at selen's birthday stream, her free concert was wayyyyyyyyy better and free to watch

no no it makes it even more hilarious to think they achieved this horrible quality 1 year in the making.

ikr, like that's just bad movement honestly. I don't even follow any concernt but my friends who are fans spreading it and makes me know there's a concert and certain artists.

That's true, I often watch/ read something just because a fan gushinng about it, so I just try to see what it's about

That is western interpretation. I saw a comment above this comment that Japanese companies really want to control their IP or social media presence. It shows that is very common in JP company. This policy however shows Nijisanji fail to adapt English speaking entertainment market where Words of Mouth can make or break a sale of brand.

U got source of the pirated vids?

@@keycrafter7471 Rule 1 of being a pirate, never publicly share stuff unless it's through websites where you have plausible deniability. They won't go after people who download, they'll go after people who share. Better to get sources than personal users

Nyaa. Find it yourself, but from what I've seen, downloads for the ARLive is way miniscule compared to HoloFes

@@keycrafter7471 nyaa(.)si has them archived

As many have said before me: *"If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing."* _Yarr!_

Also why would they deport you for this when repeated offenses would result in fines instead?

Perhaps JP will get some Graduations, though most likely Niji wants to only fire off the news of those AFTER they make the Q4 report

​@@andrehashimoto8056 Kotoka is EN, BTW.

you make it as if the shark is not the top dog for the last couple of years

@@azutsukimiya Yeah but, this is supposed to be NijiEN's Holofes, meant to be an event but it can't even match up to a normal SNOT stream. Did it even do better than Holoshuffle?

Excuse you, she does have bottom teeth. In 3D. BOTTOM TEETH GURA TOO STRONG!

Speaks enough.

V4Mirai is a part of Brave Group, which is the 3rd biggest Vtubing company in the world. But yea, no excuse for Nijisanji, who is the 2nd biggest

@@CuongQuoc-rx9zm The funny thing was, Niji was claimed by many to be the biggest Vtubing company - even bigger than Hololive, and had way more resources than them, even. The sole difference that separates them between heaven and earth is only one aspect, that is *POLICY* .

@@ThatchNetherfold that came from stock marketing. People will always point at stock profits and say: ''look! anycolor (anykuro) better''

@@tripdrakony869 I'm no marketing major, but I can tell the entirety of Vtubing is facing a small decline lately just by the numbers. Its easy to tell who has it worse. Hololive was only lower because there is flooding drama over at Niji (viewers and dislikes still attribute to profits), but the eyes of marketing agents were never fooled - just take a gander at what happened at Q3, not to mention Judgement Day is coming... Q4 will be the perfect report card of all things ascertain.

Their Q4 is likely in shambles, this very well may have been an opportunity they couldn't ignore. They NEED to pad their Q4 earnings.

I bet the NijiSisters are building tons of bot accounts to create fake-view counts.

Is it even a competition? Nijisisters are gonna take a massive L

@@tandemcharge5114 there no end, if niji start the duel.. like Holofest, Nijisanji put some 3D debut of Niji EN, also on Suisei Birthday, they also put 3D Niji EN too

I wasn't aware of a niji concert, is it taking place at Dreamhack Down Under as well?

I believe part of the free content they had recently was due to an error, but they just let it happen anyway and rolled with it because it generated fan goodwill. I thought that's what happened, anyway.

@@Gakusangi That was last year, I believe. One entire concert was made free as compensation for a major streaming error. This year, it was definitely intentional -- the first 30 minutes or so of each stage's concert was free, while the rest required a streaming ticket. The talents even specifically addressed this, coming out on stage during an MC segment about a half-hour into each concert to say "This is where the free part ends, guys! Hope you have your ticket!" ;)

Having free portions for their events has been a thing for years now. It's a nice gesture towards non-paying fans and it makes for good PR. Even some solo-lives are now putting out free portions. Can't remember which year it was but there was a Fes that had its free portion run a little long on day 1 (about 40-45 mins), which made for a nice surprise. Regarding the concert that was made free, technically it was only day 1 of their Summer live. They switched streaming platforms to Z-aN (it wasn't clear what was happening to SPWN at that time). Z-aN were having sever issues on the day, so they delayed the event until it had to be postponed. Then they made day 1 air for free on YT the next day, hours before day 2's start time, and refunded day 1 tickets.

@@Gakusangi Nah, it was intentional. Because there's a screen at the end, thank you for watching the free content.

@@signumxmagnum 👍

Wdym? They do make smart decisions tho.. for a nijisisters that is

@@Blank05 You should cap the NijiSister part so people won't miss it. XD

Its a fair action as long as they enforce it to every single post containing an unauthorized screenshot of the concert whether its a criticism of the concert or not. If that's what they're doing, then i'm fully on niji on this one. But if they're taking down critics specifically, yeah no.

i think it's an even bigger PR disaster if they allowed evidences of the AR Live seeing how bad it looked lol

Especially for something THIS anticipated that people would naturally want to share and talk about.

oy oy oy, get the yacht outta the trench! takodachi are living there! dump it right at the floating garbage patch a couple miles over, because we can't afford to have another cloverfield right on our doorstep (assuming we don't already have some gnarly things at the deep sea...)

And they had a year to mend it far better than that... and they apparently didn't.

The more these PR mines detonate, the clearer it gets that truly they don't have much in terms of actual staff in many departments. This AR Live alone screams of being a rush job, and that they are likely understaffed for a lot of fields

There's a chance you're joking, but do those actually happen?

What did luca say?

@@_purple_mochi2650 He's just not a fan of queers. Ironically.

@@_purple_mochi2650 I’m not sure if you’ve been updated on Luca’s current situation. An old mod of his named Raziel recently exposed him. And in some old discord screenshots Luca sent her messages saying that transpeople, gay, and pregnant women make him uncomfortable.

@@1TeenyKC Not only that trans people make him uncomfortable, but that he actively misgendered someone where he worked, and then sassed his then-employers about how he was right to do it.

AINT NO WAY FR🤣🤣🤣

Waiting and praying for it fr🙌🏾

Doki defenders are not even inciting the hate, the worst Dragoons could do is to counter with ice-cold facts which is Doki's further success than her days in Niji.

Dragoons at most just want to enjoy her Streams and will not use their fanbase name as a shield, unlike the Nijisisters. NijiKuro can only blame themselves, because their Business plan (Go cheap with unchoked Shotgun approach and only put some extra pennies on what hits a big buck from the get go, anything else is left to fend by itself if it even survives the next Shotty blast), quality of their Livers on average, and their inability to actually realize what F'ed up situation they are PR and Financials wise, they just have nothing to truly get the PR to start improving. Events, especialy a Live show? Without actual money, qualified staff and real effort to make it work, all they will keep getting is more AR lives that further perpetuate their dumpster fire status. 3D debuts? Without actual care in planning and not working to improve their PR, none of their Livers will get much from debuting their 3D. Even their damned be Contract (Unsigned baseline, but still a damn big evidence about their Kuro Korp of Kuso status) was exposed and was overall seen as not just bad, but LEGALLY QUESTIONABLE. Their only solution for now is to hire an actual quality PR firm, and start pulling a no brakes to improve ter PR image through actions to attract non NDF viewership trust and interest again (Like not even much, just change the 2% to 30% and it alone will be seen as a massive good improvement). They have no other choice, either put actual money into things or their Q4 being the Nuke it is shaping to be will be the least of their problems.

Maybe I'm an anomaly then. I still watch certain livers myself, but still side with Doki. Niji self reported, and since the 2 sides aligned, the image at play is not a positive one for Niji. I still watch with hope and little faith that they will somehow redeem themselves, and every week it only gets worse for them.

@@LuckyAce203 I just want them to leave the livers alone. If anything, they should bkast every ounce of their power on the company and not the livers. Niji should take the blame, all of it. The livers, there's a saying "cukup-cukup, sudahlah". You can blame the livers but not to an extent as if they're a huge problem. They only joined the agency to get extra revenue in their streaming by them.

@@AfterthymeGaming Oh I agree. After the black stream I have my own emotional and mentally bias, but it is only happened because of management self reporting. If they never said "livers due to mismanagement" they could say we don't know who did it. But we know its a talent, so everyone is a suspect and Niji is to blame.

Content warning but the monsters are all Niji themed lol. The Uki monster will come for you, but only if you choose a white character model.

The Nijian Abyss

Pretty much. They even go as far to attack Dokibird (for obvious reasons), Maid Mint and Matara. Except for Quinn (aka Kyo).

I'm sure there's already a recording. Sitting somewhere on a Google drive or MediaFire page being shared in a private discord server