Murder in Melbourne looks at the murders of three Irish people over 2012 & 2013 by three criminals released early by the Victoria State Parole Board. Broadcast on RTÉ1 & Channel 9 Australia in 2015.
I have lived in Melbourne all my life. Our justice system is broken. I was brutally beaten and robbed in the CBD by a male and a female. Ambo's came, police came. I made a statement, picked out the guy, he was known to them. Then....NOTHING HAPPENED. He got off, totally free. The powers that be DO NOT CARE about law abiding citizens or visitors. I am SO SORRY for the families and loved one's of these people who died in preventable, violent and completely unnecessary murders. I'd also like to thank Greg Davies for always speaking up for victims of crime.
@@bunnykins1450 ???😯😯unbelievable.Thats shame.They should be accountable for crimes regardless all.And what kind of informers they can be without any moral!!?
I am a Melburnian and have lived here for most of my life. I just cried and cried watching this video. I remember all of these stories and how horrified I felt hearing of them on the news. My heart just goes out to these beautiful families and I am so sorry that they have had to go through this. Yes, on the whole, I feel very safe in my city. But time and time again, we hear of people who go on to commit devastating crimes after just being released on parole. It is ludicrous and wrong.
I share your pain: I too, was so sad and cried throughout this video: No body deserves this PREVENTABLE pain. As a child, I lived in Moe, Victoria for two glorious years.....the thought of any of these crimes being carried out was unthinkable. I share the disdain of all decent people that we have to suffer the ineptitude of our so-called leaders.... These crimes were preventable: But who will be held responsible? Nobody. And it is thus in most of the so-called "Civilised-West" where we continually delude ourselves that habitual criminals with violent tendencies are somehow "Re-deem able" Tell that to the innocent victims...such as these.... absolutely appalling shoddy governance.... from the top, down. Shameful. You need to resign and renounce your pensions. You have failed in public office. That was the deal: Do The Job Or Walk Away.
Many sentences in Australia are laughable ... it is time the judges and parole board members were held responsible for any crime resulting from lenient sentence or early parole. Our legal system is ridiculous . Protect the criminals .
homicide rate in Australia is remarkably low, lets not import alien values into this place...whatever they're doing it works to a substantial degree. You are not an expert.
Prisons are overloaded. Very hard to predict when an individual is going to be so desperate that they kill. Crimes involving money for drugs, even more difficult to predict and control.
There should be a law that states harm inflicted on a victim that directly associated with a murder should be charged with attempted murder. The only reason her injuries weren't "categorized as serious" is because her husband stepped in; otherwise, he would have killed her. This is one of the biggest cases of injustice I have ever seen. Just horrible. 😔
Yes it's cruel beyond words the so called justice system victims and their families never ever get closure knowing that these beasts will get out of jail and have a life when their grieving for their precious loved ones who are gone forever it's all wrong
I agree--- to an extent. Where the Penalty of Death is involved: Plea Bargain.... so as to spend the rest of their miserable lives in prison. Otherwise: No. The victims deserve better justice.
As a Peninsula local Dermot and Brigitte were my jewellers, they were both the most generous, happy welcoming couple…..Such a shocking tragedy to happen to a wonderful family….such a senseless death…..
@@ronharris7335 It is happening on a world wide scale, especially in so called "Western Civilisations" to appease many who have no concept of decency & justice. (Scribe away... you apologists: When your family is affected...as it will be.... come back and correct your error.)
Yeah.... me too.. I cried for her. (Nay. I wept. Her pain was so raw.) Her Best Friend died trying to protect her..... Just a senseless waste...... yet the killer will be out at taxpayers expense to gloat...... younger than her late husband, Dwell on that. Something is not right. Something is very much,......NOT right.
I am an Australian, and I feel compassion for these honest people who made Australia their happy place🌞. Only to be betrayed by our lax system! Harsher laws Australia... please!!
If it were not for Jill working for the Australian Broadcasting Commission, things would have been different. Because she worked in the Media, the Media really went all out to publicise the case like no other before or since. The Media pressure on the Police was unprecedented. They would not let up. Its a shame such effort is not put into every murder case. The average Aussie is ashamed when visitors to our country are harmed. Its a personal insult. We need the Death Penalty down here, should never have got rid of it. I cant watch this, its too sad.
@@highcountrydelatite Been there old boy, Im an old man now. I hear you re the effort, and i applaud you. Perhaps i should not have been as broad as i was,. but its hard to make a point on this thing.
It's nice to see the scenery in the stories but these are heartbreaking stories. I think your idea is sound, if you take a life you should forfeit your own. If you hurt a child in a certain way you should be in jail for life. They should be standards around the world. Everyone should stand against these monsters but what can you do when Charles was best friends with Jimmy Saville ? People should be having a fit about that but it's not even spoken about. Charles said that Jimmy helped his country in ways that people wouldn't understand, something like that. I couldn't help but think what kind of help could Jimmy be ? all he did was ...
The sentences from the UK and Australia always leave me dissatisfied makes me wonder how the people who actually lost loved ones feel if I feel shitty after these ridiculously lenient sentences.
This was so sad to watch. The devastation caused when people just decide to end someone’s life, it’s mind blowing. The prison sentences in Australia are ridiculous!
Come to New Zealand then you will see what they get. Most of the time it’s home detention just so our government can say they have less people in prison under the labour government.
@@allcuteables Labour Govt across the world fix the figures in that way.... "Crime is down under Labour"..... Yeah along with inflation figures and days lost to strikes. YAWN!
The O'Toole family should not have agreed to a plea deal. The evidence against that murderer was overwhelming. I understand they probably didn't want to go through a trial, but seriously, everyone knows that criminals plead guilty to get a lighter sentence. How did no one inform this family about this????
These stories are so sad. My condolences to the families of the victims. Bridget breaks my heart. Dermot and she were soul mates. I feel if you take a life save for in self defense , or are a repeat offenderyou should never take another free step. So many families would be spared the grief of losing a loved one.
Disgusting! Innocent people murdered by repeat offenders! There are no second chances for the victims… Plead guilty and get a lesser sentence is beyond comprehension! Those responsible for allowing these total misfits back into society MUST-be held accountable for allowing their pitiful decision to let these perpetrators back on the streets! Never let out is the only decision for these disgusting violent repeat offenders! Sickening!!!! So very sorry for the unnecessary life time pain to the victims families! There are no second chances imo 😡💔
Money issue. Who Would pay That if you Would keep so many for live and where Would you draw the line. Who has to get in for life and who Not? Its not Easy. In this cases maybe Yes with so many prior convictions. But not Always. Ans countries like Australias goal is the Reintegration of those People and Not like in America only punishment. I don’t know how it is in Ireland but i think They have also Not the Same System like America. But the sentence he got now for Robbery and murder together is ridiculous and That After having so kann prior convictions. For murder you should get a lot More. sorry i speak German mg english is Not good
@@mirjamweibel9678 Your English is very good, your comment was easy to understand. The only word I didn't understand was kann, I think you may have wanted to use the word "many". He had many prior convictions. Other than that, everything else was fine. 🙂
Yes, we believe in rehabilitation here but how many chances should a person get? The guy who killed the jeweller had over 200 offences against his name. He was clearly so cocky he knew that he would get a slap on the wrist whatever he did.
As a Brit who watches loads of crime shows I can say that Australia along with Canada are easily the most disgracefully lenient on violent criminals in terms of sentencing ; its time the judges were held accountable.
Judges can only sentence within the laws of the land. All countries have trouble with criminals and some seem to get off lightly no matter what country they are in.
So shameful. I'm so sorry we have some absolute oxygen wasting trash here in Australia. I hope the respective criminals responsible are having the worst possible lives.
kathduncan: I feel your pain....but until YOUR Government wakes up and starts to take people's fears seriously.... this WILL continue: Just as it has around the world. .... we KNOW WHY the prisons are full.... But no body will admit it.
So sad for Mrs O'Toole - absolutely heartwrenching. Very very sorry to hear. A beautiful couple separated, she is a very touching orator. It's almost unbearable to hear as well
RIP Dermot, David and Jill. My deepest condolences to all their families. Terribly sad because all 3 murders should never have happened. Cried all the way through. God Bless you all XXX
I have always said that if you want to murder someone go to Australia. They don't really care about the person that was murdered OR their family. You can't rehabilitate someone that is a murderer
51 upon release?🤬 That's still a very young age, to get out, still have anger and go kill again. Hope the Residents keep track of that Guy Gavin's release date. Be aware as he will kill again.
When are these people who give these murderers their sentences going to realise that they should never get out? They pose a constant threat to the public, and they will never change.
As a Canadian, I know our system isn't perfect, but I think that's true in many other countries. I have to say, most of the time our system gets it right. Unfortunately, there will always be some that slip through the cracks.
As a Canadian, our ‘justice’ system is absolutely garbage. Australia appears to doing its best to sink as low as we are, but we are currently still rock bottom of all of the Western countries. If you want to commit a crime, come to Canada! We will tell you how poor and victimized you are by your circumstances, how it’s not your fault, and send you on your merry way.
So sick and tired of these criminals being released that are obviously a danger to society…can’t describe how angry I felt watching that…things have to change not in years to come…but NOW!! May they all Rest In Peace…so sad..I hope the families find some kind of peace in their lives 😢❤
I am sure your platitudes will bring some solace to the victims. How about some anger to the people that allowed these three crimes to be reality? Hmm? You know who they are. Criminals in High Office.
Perry spent most part of his teenage in juvenile detention and he had more than 200 convictions for offences by the time he got sentenced in 2014. Sound like 20 years too short for him considering all the criminal offending he has done. At the age of 47, He will be back in our society and possibly could commit another crime again..
No possibility, it's 100% given he'll offend again it's all he knows, the only thing he's getting better at is pulling the wool over people's eyes. He's a person who's always scheming & has a knack for conniving.
There is no justice. These scum bags should be gone for ever. I’m so sickened by these crimes on innocent people and I’m so sorry for these families. These perpetrators will never be safe to let out, it’s disgusting.
What judicial system would give a parolee, who murders while out on parole, a 20 year sentence? Didn’t they say each of these murderous violators committed multiple crimes and harm against people; and one committed something like 200 crimes? It sounds like their laws were designed to offer no respect for their victimized citizens. Wait. Here’s a possible way to bring change. Hey judges, these pathetic criminals are killing your nation’s tax payers. Who do you want to keep on your Australian streets, the habitual criminals or the hard working tax payers???😢😢😢
He did not get a 20 year sentence, he got life with a 20 year non parole period, does not mean he will be out after 20 years. Judges do not make the law so can only hand down sentences within the laws laid down for them.
It used to be a dream - a little shop and havinf nice customers coming in to have a look round and hopefully buy a few things - being your own boss and able to things to suit yourself - Not any more - too many horrible and evil people about - anyone who opens a shop now a days is very brave and deserves a medal
Geezus, these stories are just so sad. Such pointless, with much of the blame not only with the pricks that carried out the crimes but the parole board idiots that allowed the release of the cockroaches. The blood of the victims stains their hands forever. Shameful.
I cannot imagine the pain that these families went through & are still going through! My prayers are with them! The justice system seems to be a mess throughout the world, in South Africa too where criminals & convicts have way too many rights
South Africa. Too many rights? What? To become the Murder Capital Of The World?' A mantle they have accepted with aplomb! Wow. Now there's a conversation opener.
Australia is not safe at all. How the hell did they let out if prison these repeated violent offenders. People need to answer for this. How the hell are these judges still working???
In the Global Peace Index, an annual ranking of which countries in the world are the safest, conducted by the Institute for Economics and Peace, Australia ranked 13th out of 163 countries for the year 2020.
Shouldn´t previous convictions weigh on new sentences? Someone who commits horrible crimes like these, is imprisoned and once released commits violent crimes again, should never let out of prison.
My heart started breaking hearing that Bridgett & Dermot had met when they were 6, so when the photo was shown at 3:09 i really choked up. I instantly knew it was taken at an airport before she said anything because i have some just like it. Taken 3 years earlier & in a different airport than hers, but strangely enough, the same destination, except Perth, not Melbourne. My dad was transferred when i was 12 & we stayed 3 years. So we left, just as they arrived. Seeing that group shot of family & friends brought on a wave of mixed up emotions. Remembering what i felt then added to the deep sadness of Bridgette's loss. Two years ago, i lost my partner of 15 years, barely 6 weeks after being diagnosed with leukemia. It was an overwhelming shock, made worse by not being allowed to visit because of covid, but at least i had a few weeks to get used to the idea before she died. After spending, literally, a lifetime together, Dermot's death must have been excruciating. Will have to watch this some other time, not a good idea just before bed.
As one whose immediate "family" and African American clan have been destroyed by an acrid marriage and the disfellowshipping doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses, the first story made me smile as I listened to Mrs. O'Toole discuss her large and supportive Irish clan. I am so sorry that she lost her good, beloved husband to that demonic murderer.
2012 Australia - An Irish man settled well in Australia and later he was killed in Australia. The Irish man set up a jewellery shop in Hastings about 45 miles from Melbourne city. One day the shop was robbed and the 64 year old Irish man named Dermott O Toole was killed trying to save his wife Bridget. I remember this murder and the terror and the trauma and the agony and the pain of the victims wife. The killer named Gavin Perry 27 years of age with a criminal history was caught and jailed for 27 years. The parole boards who release killers to the community to kill again should be charged with murder or manslaughter.
Really Disgusting Ridiculous lineint sentences those murderers shouldn't be able to get a parole they deserve to be rotten in prison or be given a death penalty. Actually there's no justice in Australia only injustices. This is the over all Theory What a SHAME 💢😡
Watching him wipe his prints off the glass made me sick. When the man walked over to close the door I wished he'd locked the door and closed for the day. It was so creepy and so sad. That man should have gotten the death penalty for stabbing that couple. Just heartbreaking.
@@lorimiller4301 Unfortunately the dirt bag would have come anyway back,next day. Bcs primitive minds have few ideas ,but stick to those few.And he had in mind to rob that shop. The only way to get rid of the threat would have been to exterminate him first.Like with mosquitoes. If you don't kill them,they 'll return with no end.
I’ve lived in Melbourne since 1997. In my view it’s not a safe place to live. Crime has increased year on year and the justice system is not handling it. Too many bad eggs are being given bail and parole because the prison system is not resourced to meet demand.
"A robbery gone dreadfully wrong"? could you give me an example of a robbery gone right, of even of a robbery that DIDN'T go wrong? The expression is an absurdity, like "in the wrong place at the wrong time."
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Melbourne itself, there are terrible people all over the world who don't care what they do to anyone and everyone ! and no matter what laws and punishment are dished out it won't stop crimes of all kinds and in any place in the world !
I just love an Irish accent, my thoughts go out to the friends and family, I am glad justice was found at last for Dermot and his adoring loved ones, this really is devastating 😢, so luke was a pos,and received a short sentence! he should suffer each minute of his life, rip Davie. These sentences are absolutely shocking, take a life you get life, and I believe the death pentality should be world wide.
My heart bleeds for these families. These murderers should never see the light of day again. How these victims are not up in arms, firstly about these grubs even having been on our streets allowing them to commit these crimes ~~ it just should never happen. Then to receive another slap in the face, particularly Bridget O’toole, when these disgusting humans receive only very small sentences, would make my blood boil ! We have seen this same pattern again and again. Scum bag criminals receive early parole, only to go on and perpetrate the most heinous of crimes against, good, law~abiding citizens. In Queensland, one of the most infamous cases being the murder of Daniel Morcombe. Where is the truth in sentencing ? Why, if the law says, ‘x amount’ of time must be served, why then do we give them, he must serve a percentage of the time, in order to gain parole. Does this sound right, how do victims feel about this ? It’s just not right and something should be done about it. xoxox
I totally agree.... The system is completely rubbish. You cannot rehabilitate a murderer within a few short years of them behaving like "model prisoners" (Whatever that is supposed to mean?) so why take the risk? And add to this, my argument, where is the punishment value? You kill someone: You are punished. Be a model prisoner all you like: Society will punish you. Justifiably! Stop being a "model prisoner" and society will expect you to serve even more years...... I honestly do not get this concept: Give someone, say 5 years....but if he behaves...let him/her out after 2.5 years? What? No.!.... NO NO NO! You got 5 years: If you don't behave ...we will ADD time to your sentence.... Just stop this silly Carrot-Donkey scenario! This is exactly what has occurred here in Australia. And three innocent people are dead. Thanks to this ridiculous sentencing "agreements"....... To be honest: I think all three should have faced the death penalty: But that's another argument, I guess. (If the death penalty was in force in Australia: How many of these three victims would still be alive............Mmm?)
A lot of these people say “they caught him, but it didn’t matter because so and so was dead” or “they gave him 18years but it didn’t matter because this victim wasn’t coming back” .. whatever happened to vengeance? Is it that archaic to wish death on those who take someone you love? I’m not saying I’d repay the act if someone killed someone I loved but I damn well would consider it if they didn’t get life Vengeance is biblical. It’s part of what makes us human. We should all repay acts of kindness, live by the golden rule and so id argue the opposite to be equally as true. People commit great wrongs should be repaid with similar suffering. Do unto others as you would have done onto oneself. Penalizing a murderer with the death penalty is as valid and essential a society building concept as the idea l that a society reward positive behavior
I think what they mean is that no sentence will be enough since their loved one is gone forever. it's not that they don't want the criminal to be punished they just know there's no closure when you lose someone you love
The trouble is when you're angry it's easy to say kill the other person, a life for a life. When you're calm it's not quite the same. You don't want that persons death on your shoulders. You don't feel good putting someone to death, it's not an easy choice. You don't want to be the same type of person as the killer. You want to find forgiveness not so much for the murderer but for yourself. It's so hard to be angry and full of hatred. It feels awful. These killers are horrible people. They deserve to be locked up for their entire lives. Letting them lose is insane in my opinion. It's setting up everyone for failure. There needs to be a complete overhaul of every justice system. They should be same, so there is no place you can hide from the authorities. It should be aimed towards rehabilitation if possible, otherwise the murderous, the cruel and the molesters should lose their life to an institution until they die. The good people deserve to be safe. When we it be our time to be considered, to be safe ?
@@janetpendlebury6808 I can provide examples of real life murder cases where subsequent evidence showed the criminals discussed and took into account local sentencing guidelines before committing their crimes. So if criminals take into consideration whether a crime will net them 2 years in jail or 20 years, what on earth would make you believe this same premise wouldn’t apply to the death penalty? A criminal will oftentimes think about, perhaps sometimes even reconsider a crime based on doing an extra ten years in prison so why wouldn’t a portion also reconsider if the death penalty was on the table?
This is horrendous, didn’t know about this. This is gut wrenching. I live in North Queensland and visited Melbourne eighteen months ago for the first time and never felt uncomfortable or unsafe. It’s a wonderful city. I’m so sorry this happened to these lovely people 😢
How does that work I'm in Australia and robbing a place does not constitute slashing an old lady and stabbing a bloke to death 24 year us nothing you take a life you should yet life
Our police services dedicate so much time and skill to apprehend these violent criminals only to have them given light sentences AND released early. How frustrating! How distressing! How disheartening to then be called to a violent crime perpetrated by someone who should still be behind bars! My deepest sympathy for the families left behind and for the police and first responders who have to deal with the aftermath.
Soo sad, at the time l lived not too far away. I heard on the news what happened and we were all soo surprised as Hastings is just a small beach town. It's always the good people go first while lowlifes live on. R.I.P
Couldnt finish watching this. So frustrating to know how judiciary system/members make decisions that causes damage to the very society they ought to protect. Do these judges have remorse? Have they ever had someone for them killed so theyll know how it feels?
When they showed the picture at the last.. 2nd to last These lovers look like twins.. purely joined into one being and we just caught a glimpse of the most beautiful ❤️, intimate thing in this world. True love. 2 spirit souls joined together. Then she tells us how Dermitt died. My soul is sad within me. Oh how evil hates good. We do not have to even bring religion into this -just in general-evil despises good. Evil seeks to destroy good at every turn, So if you have any decency or goodness about yourself you always have to watch and be weary because you don't know that person smiling in your face could be a very, very evil person in disguise wolf in sheep's clothing. But But But Do not be standoffish or mean. That's a trigger n a half. Be polite, see a creep coming your way, getting a lil' close...smile and wave like you know em +how are ya doing today? +Stunned silence 🤔 I'm good. How bout you? See here's the trick Their inquiring about your well-being or stasis will help defer any animosity that must come for MOST folk to act on evil impulses. If you got some gum offer it to them. Say something like I wish I had a beer ( something nice, easily carried and common..)or Doobie to share, but you know I'm so broke. Just paid off that beater over there. Point to the ugliest vehicle you can find atm ( if there are any. This is a guide. Use your own situation. Yes this works. I went from gonna get mugged and beat in the head to sitting in the field sharing my beer listening to a desperate story. And before he left he handed me his drugs. I ain't lying. He said here, take this. I looked at it and even though I do not partake I just thanked him. He ended up walking to my car, as I got in he HANDED ME A HUGE WRENCH and asked me to take it as a gift. I realize every time I think of this day how blessed I am. Smile and be nice. It can help His story; institutionalized by the system, dropped out on the street, no food, no money, hardly rags to cover him and a record so he can't work in THIS town unless it Deuce Bigelow Male Gigolo or other tasteless work. Oh we are a retiree town. And lots of professionals here in our enclave It's still called a VILLAGE So. .... Yea .. Well I said my piece here. I hope it helps somebody sometime. Peace♀️❤️
I have lost my husband in Melbourne I think due to negligent driving, I couldn't see him because I injured and unconscious. I have a very bad memory of a beautiful city.
I just read up your tragic story and hope you are doing better now. Your right most likely driver was negligent. I hate it how people say accident when generally they don't happen without some form of negligence behaviour. The driver must have been distracted but it would be hard to prove unlike alcohol or drugs. The only other solution is to mandate inside hardwired dashcams. Hopefully the driver got some sort of punishment and the only lesson is to always be aware of surroundings and make sure cars stop before crossing. I notice a lot of people are doing that, they won't cross until cars come to a full stop and I don't blame them. Hope you can visit Antarctica.
Someone needed to turn off Luke's life support, people would be safe from him in the future. I have noticed that Australia is really light on sentencing laws maybe the people might want to get some laws changed for tougher sentences.
why does this happen? Why do they let these guys out so they can offend again when they know it is highly likely to happen? Is it about economics? - the cost of holding prisoners?
