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A triple murder, a young woman set afire in a wheelbarrow. Police have suspects until a courtroom twist changes everything. "48 Hours" has the latest on the case including an emotional verdict. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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@48hours 23 дня назад

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@dotbotha5898 23 дня назад

Thanks for your program

@FeatherBoo 23 дня назад

Yall do such a great job presenting these cases! 👌🏾👊🏽🩵🪶

@user-ow4kt2vf5g 21 день назад

Thanks Obama!

@jacquelinegoble3038 18 дней назад

@paolorossi8470 12 дней назад

This one was a thriller with a happy ending.

@jentimcakova5664 23 дня назад

You can care about animals, be a brave soldier, a loving husband and still be a murderer.

@caroltenge5147 23 дня назад

Yes, this case proves it.

@nqobilemalunga-qu4dw 23 дня назад

Escobar also cared for his family but.....

@Berryandmango 23 дня назад

so very true. I've seen it.

@ceejay3121 23 дня назад

exactly. A lot of notorious killers have been described as model citizens before doing their crimes lol.

@saltycat662 23 дня назад

@@Berryandmango Yup. I've seen it in person too.

@gemmaburman7767 23 дня назад

"My son saved lives in Afghanistan, he doesn't take lives." Does anyone want to break the news to this guy?

@rm4519 23 дня назад

Seriously. That poor guy is delusional.

@gemmaburman7767 23 дня назад

@@rm4519 His son has probably killed more people than he's saved.

@ronaldp.slagter8335 23 дня назад

@@rm4519👍👍👍👍👍👍

@jzloveinfinite 23 дня назад

RIGHT!!!

@martinamladenovic5529 23 дня назад

Haha, I think that too. People are crazy!

@Jessd85 22 дня назад

I think some parents are delusional. My ex-husband fought for his country in Afghanistan and also beat me when he came home from deployment....serving in the military does not mean you are a good person. Period.

@hydrostatic8048 19 дней назад

I don't believe you women anymore, I've seen too many false allegations. Period.

@hydrostatic8048 19 дней назад

The same philosophy applies to everyone. How do we know you're a good person.

@Fortheloveoflore 19 дней назад

@@hydrostatic8048You’ll never fully know anyone other than yourself. Anybody is capable of doing terrible things, family or no.

@ellaminnow 19 дней назад

@@hydrostatic8048well we certainly know you aren’t

@user-sb2dd7xf7j 19 дней назад

@@hydrostatic8048 Philosophy or not, action speaks for itself. Lots of Heros can have hidden Monsters you do not see or you do not want to see.

@tudorDaDefender 21 день назад

“Your son killed someone” Parents: *Insert your typical “he could never”, “he was going to church” bullsht*

@Babesinthewood97 8 дней назад

I f*ing hate how some people think ”going to church ” means something. It just means they’re prejudiced against singles who don’t go to church. It has nothing to do with morals.

@tudorDaDefender 8 дней назад

@@Babesinthewood97 Exactly..

@scarletohhaha6938 6 дней назад

Always love the "but he's an upstanding respected member of his church!" defense. My response? 'Sure peaches, but so was BTK!' lol

@tudorDaDefender 6 дней назад

@@scarletohhaha6938 exactly.. don’t understand why interviewers don’t tell them these things like bruh there’s tons of videos about shady churches and priests and also criminals who attended church.

@franpag2611 5 дней назад

I thought I heard that...on the way to church! Sure

@susanalexander6721 23 дня назад

Christian's Dad says he is heartbroken his son wasn't there for his child's birth. Becky never got the chance to have a family.

@bernimunro1299 23 дня назад

Amen there's so many entitled kids in America GOSH!! Parenting down the drain

@sharoncoupland 23 дня назад

Yes i said exactly this when he said that.

@jzloveinfinite 23 дня назад

RIGHT!!!!

@corruptduboiscountyindiana5058 23 дня назад

and how do you know that its his fault

@catco1coolrn 23 дня назад

Yeah that dad certainly had tunnel vision. His son was a hero in the military. Maybe he was trying hard to rectify or feel better about what he had done before his military career.

@laurennnelizabethhh 23 дня назад

Sorry, but being active in church and being former military doesn’t make me automatically think someone MUST be innocent.

@jenna-a-gogo 23 дня назад

Not in the least.

@paleandbeyond 23 дня назад

Yep, Dennis Rader springs to mind! He was both!

@casssmith2610 23 дня назад

Actually makes me even less willing to believe in them… trained killers/believers that being “saved” will be their way out of sins (aka killing an old gf). I’m not a fan of military or religious.

@aldinlee8528 23 дня назад

Was telling a friend about a decision to keep going carless, using by bike, even after the price surge has eclipsed since Covid. That it is a great relief not being a target of the city's thugs. He appeard puzzled, so I had to specify the cops/ego-junkies, to which he seem to question my terminology by saying, but those guys (cops) are usually ex-military. Though I just shrugged, so as not to inflame his politically conservative nature, I thought to myself, "That's clearly part of the problem."

@chantelletrembath3345 23 дня назад

@@casssmith2610hear! Hear!

@BarbaraCowdery 21 день назад

It’s sad how much the murderer’s families are in denial. Sad. The father said he deserved better than this. Well, Becky, her Mom & her Mom’s boyfriend didn’t deserve this.

@ryanhodges4393 9 дней назад

Makes me mad!

@BarbaraCowdery 9 дней назад

@@ryanhodges4393 You & me Both!!!!!!!

@kai-ul5gx 9 дней назад

Of course , but do you know he was guilty for sure? It’s kinda fishy

@JanesprudenciadoMaesprudenciad 9 дней назад

8888

@TennesseeRockMom 22 дня назад

My daughter's estranged husband is in the military, and he was so controlling, emotionally abusive etc. He even punched me in the face over and over one night when I was visiting while my daughter was pregnant. Cops showed up, and they acted like buddies. I was trying to talk to an officer, but kept being told that I didn't need to add anything. Like WTF. Soooooooo glad she left him.

@sarahemikula 17 дней назад

I am so sorry 😔 the cycle of abuse is very cunning and can sneak up on people then you blink and it's been however long still with the abuser. Stay safe, know your rights -and exercise them. please never give up 🙏🏻

@sakunaru0 16 дней назад

It’s not surprising the army would drive anyone crazy.

@Cat-Tiger-Taegi-Cult 16 дней назад

@@sakunaru0The murders took place prior to his military service

@Alphacentauri819 16 дней назад

The system needs to change, with having the conflict of interest dynamic that often has men with authority…(law enforcement) who will more likely identify with the abuser (male who craves power). Way too often, women have been dismissed, invalidated, not believed, when sexual assault, violence, occurs. Who wants to depend on similar people to help you, as who hurt you? Seriously? There needs to be HUGE reform in this area. The irony is that these men, who act like they ‘already know’…arrogance…often are very ignorant to all the aspects, neuroscience, of abusers and the abused. Essentially, they will look at the variables in the equation they already agree with & throw out the rest. Which…leads to an erroneous conclusion. It should be, that there are women who respond to any domestic violence too, that they all have intensive nervous system, attachment theory, training, and learn to call out their own biases, cognitive distortions, and narratives. Having authority figures who think they have nothing to learn…are dangerous.

@MiaKatharine 11 дней назад

exactly. I was in the military 8 years and I saw tons of buddies between the men but it's all different for the women. Just because some male has a Purple Heart doesnt mean he wont abuse a woman. Military doesn't mean a good man. Sorry to hear about your experience, I relate to it totally.

@sapiensno8billion 23 дня назад

"he's kind to me" doesn't mean "he's kind to everyone" . what a limited assumption

@mattmatt6572 23 дня назад

You know who I don't see defending the guy... his wife. She probably knows what was up

@Wft-bu5zc 23 дня назад

Also "he saves lives!" because he was in the military. Ummm there are a TON of crazy people in the military, many who have brutally murdered others. That's the stupidest thing I've heard.

@lourdesortiz5850 23 дня назад

That’s correct!!👍🏼👍🏼

@Cubana65796 23 дня назад

Exactly 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️. Family sometimes wants to be blind to facts.

@Simp_Zone 23 дня назад

"My son is a good boy he'd NEVER do anything like this" - Every mother of a psychopath ever

@NotIfWhen 23 дня назад

People need to stop saying.. he/ she could NEVER do something like this. If there is one thing you learn watching these crime shows it is that .. YES THEY CAN.

@TheLisclark 23 дня назад

The only Unless I can think of is if you're the actual alibi. There have been so many cringe interviews both before and after trial of family and friends defending those with obvious evidence against them, Lori Vallow's mom and sister spring to mind.

@StofStuiver 23 дня назад

everyone can.

@RM_VFX 22 дня назад

They have to cope somehow.

@RoHa2525 22 дня назад

Exactly. Look at all the Chris Watts of the world.

@NotIfWhen 22 дня назад

@@RM_VFX I get that. But sometimes they blame the victim and everyone else. ANYTHING to not admit that their loved one is guilty. I can see saying that right away. But when all the evidence points to guilt it’s time to stop saying that.

@102JSmith 22 дня назад

Setting that poor girl on fire separately after killing her was personal. Definitely guilty

@thatgirlsarah8820 22 дня назад

I was on the edge of my seat this whole video wondering whether or not justice would be served, and I'm so glad it was

@anngitau3307 День назад

same

@overthrowaudio 23 дня назад

"He's kind" - So was Ted Bundy when he volunteered to work the phones at a crisis center. If acts of kindness eliminated someone as a suspect the prisons should be empty.

@user-fi3jr4th2q 23 дня назад

And b.t.k. Too!!!

@spacemaker8760 22 дня назад

@@user-fi3jr4th2q BTK were also in the army.. Dennis Rader served in the United States Air Force from 1966 to 1970. Four years after he was discharged he Killed 5 people during 1974. Including a 9 year old boy. Then he continued with killing 5 more until he was caught and arrested in February 2005.

@residentzero 20 дней назад

Hitler was vegan and loved dogs. More than humans.

@carolyndymond4065 19 дней назад

Yes that's true because there are lot's of people who attack others and people close to them dont know. I had a friend who I truly thought loved her husband and yet she set him and the flat on fire and those small children nearly died so we don't know people as well as we think. I think she might still be in prison I have never spoken to her since she killed him and he was a lovely guy a bit timid which made me wonder if she abused him.

@CooManTunes 16 дней назад

He was kind, though.

@CreedsofYore 23 дня назад

Saying one of the suspects is an "active member of his church" certainly doesnt help his claim of innocence AT ALL!

@flawlessbylola 23 дня назад

Exactly!!!

@TopicswithKristie 23 дня назад

Btk was active in his church also....so yea you're so right!

@molliwilson5639 23 дня назад

I agree

@Michigander269 23 дня назад

Spoken like true agents of evil..but I pray for you nonetheless. For even at our worst and lowest God never gives up on any of us. He loves us unconditionally, as should we all.🙏 ❤️

@susanalexander6721 23 дня назад

So was BTK. So was Joyce Meyer's security guard that murdered his wife and 2 children. Ted Bundy was very involved in his church, many of his friends from that church supported him at first. We could go on and on.

@wolfytan5451 14 дней назад

Before you tell someone who says they were abused that their abuser is such a good person who would never do that, understand that abusers don't abuse everyone they meet. And be grateful you never had to see that side of them.

@Sarah-sj6lj 19 дней назад

the family just ignoring all the damning evidence is honestly sickening and insulting to the victims.

@sambarnes2716 23 дня назад

Do u know how many times I've joked about burning a house down. Never

@JMsweet_ 23 дня назад

Lmao good point

@dijanakovacevic6107 23 дня назад

Lmao

@StofStuiver 23 дня назад

Even if you havent heard (i have), how is that proof to anything? Youd have to at least see the context before you can judge it.

@Earl_Wallace 23 дня назад

Sure you have. Don't lie. You just don't say it somewhere that's recorded or unless your perfect like Jesus

@viablue8143 22 дня назад

@@Earl_WallaceBelieve it or not, there are plenty of people walking around who don’t “joke” about burning houses down. It’s not a very normal thing to do (even when nobody is watching) in most circles I’ve ever been in personally.

@pinaopina 23 дня назад

The way the girl was attacked was way too personal. Who else would have done it?

@Yusuave 23 дня назад

Both their phones pinged en route to the crime & are conveniently switched off during the time of the murders. Plus the business card with his DNA on it. Yeah nah there can be only so many coincidences. They're guilty af and I'm glad the jury got it right

@chrislastname1994 23 дня назад

@INDOPRODIGY Everything you listed is either wrong or skewed.

@Yusuave 23 дня назад

@@chrislastname1994 Okay, then let's hear your theory on who did it...

@chrislastname1994 23 дня назад

@@Yusuave I don't have a theory because I didn't investigate it. But the things you listed don't even match what the prosecution said.

@Yusuave 23 дня назад

@@chrislastname1994 well you watched the damn show and you're out here defending the perps in almost every comment so I assumed you have a theory or you're related to the perps.

@tyagu3107 16 дней назад

I'm glad that justice has been served after a decade.

@wesner326 23 дня назад

The family of these murderers are in total denial! RIP to the victims.

@chrissmith6919 23 дня назад

The strange thing is, who else would randomly do this to the family? Robbers wouldn't waste their time with the wheelbarrow business.

@fokthewef 23 дня назад

Hormones of 17 year olds do run wild...

@theSpiritofTamzin 23 дня назад

Exactly...

@chrislastname1994 23 дня назад

That's a good question but one we won't get an answer to because it seems everyone has hyper focused on 2 people.

@Yusuave 23 дня назад

They're guilty af. I'm so glad the jury got it right.

@64endlesslove 23 дня назад

@@chrislastname1994focused on 2 that are constantly coming up within the investigation. I'm convinced they checked elsewhere as her own Father stated he was checked...fs you should be happy these 2 vile creatures are off the streets mate. rip Beautiful Angel 😢

@jaimecraig4 23 дня назад

I love how some people act like folks in the military don’t do bad things. They are extremely mistaken.

@nancychandler3673 23 дня назад

Look at Jan 6 2021. Many were X Military. Stuart Rhodes of the militant group "The Oath Keepers".

@goll58 23 дня назад

Can you direct me to that evidence as I'd like to see it. @@nancychandler3673

@celeste3100 19 дней назад

I'd hate to say this but I saw, unknowingly, this video of an Army man with a puppy held by the scruff and that monster says, "Look a puppy!" and that vile excuse of a human threw that poor baby as hard as he could into a ravine and the way that puppy was crying just traumatized me. So yes, military men can be just as heartless.

@mrsx7944 17 дней назад

They never said that Karen.

@poetcomic1 17 дней назад

Both cops and ex military men are 4 times as likely of physical abuse in the home.

@Cece20627 22 дня назад

The families of the murderers are so delusional! Especially that dad. My blood was boiling watching him act like he won the lottery when his son was initially released. And calling him “a hero that SAVES lives in war”??! Does this pathetic excuse for a man not even know what happens in a war?! Just cause he helped an injured comrade doesn’t mean he wasn’t killing other people left and right during his time served (opposition army or not it’s still people being murdered in a war). He’s delusional beyond hope. Pretty much explains the failure his son was. Thankfully the epilogue delivered us all the much wanted justice hearing that the murderers were given life without parole. It’s a shame they even got 12 years of freedom when they belonged in jail all along. The only member of their family I feel sorry for is the little baby who is so unfortunate to be born to a murderer family.

@karimanning9232 8 дней назад

First of all, his father believes his son is a good man because his son has not acted otherwise around him. Second it was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Third they should have spent more time defining the new evidence they supposedly had.

@mickalanelson8485 22 дня назад

#1 sign of delusional liars: Brag about crowd size. “The closet room couldn’t even fit the amount of people there to support Robert” 😒

@dorindadouglas2847 21 день назад

Right? Like that somehow means he's not guilty. 🙄

@stancexpunks 15 дней назад

🍊

@nikos9257 23 дня назад

The fact that she was killed by the only way she was afraid of, tells me alot!

@sonquatsch8585 23 дня назад

that's everything i needed to know. that#s not what happens in a botched robbery.

@renayeblack5906 23 дня назад

Yep and the 30+ stalking phone calls in one night.

@RoHa2525 22 дня назад

Ya that’s awful. I’m afraid that may have been her cause of death too. Like they may have lit her on fire while alive. I can’t imagine. They said they couldn’t determine it correct?

@ABC-ed8cg 21 день назад

Yes and his message to Sarah about helping her to burn someone else’s house down.

@krististevens54322 20 дней назад

Yes! It tells EVERYTHING. Now, THAT'S absolutely SICKENING. I do NOT believe in coincidences. ONLY someone with specific knowledge and extreme, personal rage towards that person would do something that twisted. And that is 💯 premeditated.

@katebowers8107 23 дня назад

“Active member of his church…” -every true crime show.

@Michigander269 23 дня назад

Not many people are truly and fully evil. Even those who commit horrible crimes will turn to God for solice and redemption when there's none left for them to find on Earth. Lay your troubles at the feet of the Almighty 🙏💯❤️

@Phatse 23 дня назад

This is part of the reason I never wanted a man who was very active in the church. These shows confirm that this is not just the scummy men I know

@katebowers8107 23 дня назад

@@Michigander269 And yet, churchgoers routinely insist that “being a churchgoer” is evidence of goodness. History tells us otherwise. Evidence of goodness is-loving kindness, for example. Lots of churches spend a lot of time pointing at anyone who is “other” and inciting hate.

@theSpiritofTamzin 23 дня назад

Bwahahaha, YEP!...

@mariap.9240 23 дня назад

True! Religious people are often the worst.

@UsernameUnkwn21 19 дней назад

Asking for Javier to have immunity is SUSPECT AF!!!!

@Donotevengotherewithme 3 дня назад

I thought the same thing.

@evacuevas5506 22 дня назад

I'm so glad that there was finally justice and that they didn't get away with it. He says i just want to be with my baby girl, well he took someone's baby girl, in a horrible way.

@RichardPlunkett-ir3un 21 день назад

There was no justice here. They are innocent men in prison.

@Southamericangirl42 5 дней назад

Yes, eva, now he's without his baby girl. Not quite instant karma but we'll trust that Lady Justice did what she does best.

@RichardPlunkett-ir3un 5 дней назад

@@Southamericangirl42 what if he's actually innocent?

@SB-mm9zh 23 дня назад

If Robert was so gentle and sweet then why did they have to remove him from the Denny's for harassing his ex-girlfriend?

@robgau2501 23 дня назад

There's no evidence that even happened. I'm not saying they didn't do it.

@HLBear 23 дня назад

No - the defense attorney said they "didn't find a corroborating witness". It was a few years after the event and I'm sure most people who work at Denny's see things like that all the time, so no one working then would have a distinct memory of it. Nothing says it never happened. (Edited for a missing quotation mark.)

@theSpiritofTamzin 23 дня назад

Excellent point...

@chrislastname1994 23 дня назад

It could have also simply been a verbal argument and the manager told them to take it outside. That incident means nothing when one biased person provides the story with nothing to actually corroborate it.

@kitajames6029 23 дня назад

Boy, some people clearly lack the ability to listen and comprehend.😱

@TopicswithKristie 23 дня назад

Saying he was an active member in his church....is suppose to mean what? BTK was also an active member in his church.

@phongdang2874 23 дня назад

😂😂😂 Add Timothy Jones Jr to the list.

@bernimunro1299 23 дня назад

So darn true look at Utah just saying I watched all cases in America as I'm from Cape Town South Africa LDS Mormons GOSH!!! They are the worse cases then they say God said so poor God it's easy to blame him lol

@earthrooster1969 23 дня назад

Our recently (in) famous Chad Daybell

@margochanning6868 23 дня назад

The wheat and tares sit in the church together. He is definitely a tare.

@TopicswithKristie 23 дня назад

@@earthrooster1969 exactly!!

@projectkj7643 8 дней назад

How can he hold his daughter, proudly, KNOWING what he did to someone else’s daughter?!! SICK.

@NikkiBikkiNZ 23 дня назад

It’s amazing how many families say my family member would never do this and yet they did

@joez.2794 6 дней назад

Why is it amazing? Think of all your family members. Now imagine people who never met them telling YOU they did this terrible thing?

@MandiMomOf8Channel 23 дня назад

Who else WAS SO GLAD for that epilogue?

@moniaihmeita 23 дня назад

I was, definitely. Just wish they had given more detail about the incriminating evidence.

@ceramicvases 23 дня назад

Yes! For a second there I was heartbroken!

@danielbrofford3885 23 дня назад

My thought when they dropped the charges was yep they got away with it then the rest came and I was glad.

@wendydebois1685 23 дня назад

Oh man, It was so good to hear that!!😁

@user-df5jn2vy2t 23 дня назад

prosecution won this case on very limited evidence. On a card and pinging the a phone in the desert.

@peetti3608 23 дня назад

Ladies.. i know she was young.. and we aren't the brightest in our teens.. BUT once you break away for one evening to hang with a girlfriend and your bf won't stop texting you the entire night and he is stalking you at your job, etc.. RUN. These insecure controlling dudes are complete poison.

@amydrew2907 21 день назад

This comment is unnecessary

@daryldixon3685 21 день назад

😂 never let your gf go on a girls trip! We all know what happens when they do! It’s not insecurity or controlling to have boundaries in a relationship!

@natewexler 21 день назад

@@daryldixon3685 why, what happens?

@KLee1028 21 день назад

@@daryldixon3685boundaries in a relationship = calling someone repeatedly every couple of minutes when you know they are out with friends? In what world does that not point to someone being insecure and controlling? Get out of your incel discord server and stop any manifesto you may be writing and prioritize therapy. Therapy is what you should be doing right now.

@patricia-fz8et 21 день назад

No, this comment is necessary....DV is taking lives every day, everywhere. Women especially are prone to give people a second chance, 'think the best of everyone' and my personal favorite....'honey, let's just meet for one more time to say good-bye and sort things out" and she is murdered. That kind of thinking can cost you your life and the lives of your children.

@petyachakarova 21 день назад

This Garcia guy is shady as hell. He lawyered up, requested an immunity and his phone pinged near the house and he explained it was because he wanted to join the hike.. WTH??? This is a super complicated case. Poor people who lost all 3 of their family members.

@joytotheworld2024 21 день назад

Just because he has a girlfriend doesn’t mean he moved on from her. An obsessive and manipulative person would not want her to be happy with someone else.

@IdaOrnstein-iv5qy 23 дня назад

These men where in their late teens when this terrible crime happened. Just because now they are married, joined the military, won medals for heroism doesn’t mean they were “good guys when in the teens. I can’t see anyone else doing something so wicked as to burn the young girl, Becky in the wheelbarrow. It’s just too personal.

@jenna-a-gogo 23 дня назад

Yep. Even if they are overall good guys that just did something bad in the heat of the moment, they still need to pay for their crimes. Getting married and having babies doesn't absolve you of moral wrongdoing.

@pixi2209 23 дня назад

EXACTLY.

@furball192 23 дня назад

I think it was Javier Garcia

@Arabzene 23 дня назад

@@jenna-a-gogo Yes, but I wouldn't say this crime was "heat of the moment"..... They took two firearms and accelerants with them, found a wheelbarrow, staged her body, etc. Cold blooded planning and carrying out this horrific crime.

@everythingisIAM 23 дня назад

@@furball192 and Col Mustard in the library with a 40 cal?

@emipopescu3257 23 дня назад

Someone should remind those folks that Ted Bundy also saved a little boy from drowning, But also tortured & killed nearly a hundred girls including children. Oh, and i unfortunately know people who seem to be oh-so-perfect, spiritual, love animals, helpful, polite etc etc.. while they also beat up gf for 5 hours straight. Should we continue with the examples..??

@pixi2209 23 дня назад

100% 🎯😖

@caramileelliott1719 23 дня назад

Don’t forget Bundy, Gacy, the BTK, and so forth!! People are evil only God can save our souls when we surrender to him!

@Razormiller 23 дня назад

Ted Bundy also worked on suicide prevention phone lines. Talkin people out of committing suicide... So yeah showing kindness/going to church/helping people doesnt mean you cant also be an evil killer. Killers can be nice guys for 95+% of their lives.. They dont act like cold hearted ruthless murderers until it suits them.

@michaelfourie345 22 дня назад

...you need to report it to the police - and move away from monsters like that.

@Okbuuutttt 22 дня назад

Yep. I stated that earlier too. And Ted was a good looking guy. ANYONE can snap.

@V1124az 23 дня назад

His dad was thinking he was helping, but only pointing out how badly his sons PTSD may be 😬

@RemiRoi 22 дня назад

Just want you guys to know that 48 hours is what I watch every time I'm eating my meals. So I'm always happy for a new episode, best regards

@asianleo24 3 часа назад

Me too I eat and turn this on my phone😂❤

@AshaGlenn 23 дня назад

When are people going to realize that sociopaths often frequent churches and places of community service... It's because they know that people will attribute "goodness" to them just because they attend those places.

@MaxPride10 21 день назад

Mostly they go to those places in search of their victims.

@AshaGlenn 21 день назад

@@MaxPride10 💯💯💯

@keddy5627 20 дней назад

Yes it is the “Ted Bundy worked at a suicide hotline” persona! Communal narcissism at its best!

@teddyjam8134 20 дней назад

Exactly!

@mrsx7944 17 дней назад

@@AshaGlennand how would you know? Do you attend church? Were you in the military?

@RomanRoma-gp4hs 23 дня назад

Some of the most violent seriel killers were model citizens and family men.

@lesliewarnell5172 23 дня назад

Yup.

@wandaervin3361 23 дня назад

Green River killer and btk

@gussygatlin3093 23 дня назад

Chris Watts too...

@Moonewitch 23 дня назад

💯💯💯

@MarshasJourney 23 дня назад

Exactly

@RLU-wt8vi 20 дней назад

I did some rabbit hole research into this episode. I agree that it was a horrific crime. However, the list of "evidence" that the prosecutors presented was weak. There was one shoe print that matched "the KIND OF SHOE" they HEARD one of the guys owned. There was NO cell phone data that put them at the scene. A witness, said he overheard a 'suspicious' comment. Another witness, who seemed to know certain details, was not pursued further. Why? His father was an investigator for the DA's office and his mother was a former assemblywoman who once ran for the senate. Is there more? Most likely. But based on what I read, it did NOT sound like irrefutable evidence. Sorry, but I found reasonable doubt.

@Robert-lc6dv 5 дней назад

Hey now, enough with your logic. Don't you know the other commenters here watch a lot of true crime videos, so that means they know everything the TV told them was true???

@RLU-wt8vi 4 дня назад

@@Robert-lc6dv What was I thinking??? Thanks for straightening me out.

@angusmcpherson 2 дня назад

Jeremy Witt was working with Cristin Smith in 2007 and found him in a daze. Asked if he was okay, Smith replied, "Something went wrong, and we torched the f*king place." Seems pretty strong evidence to me. Then there were the recorded jailhouse phone calls in which Pape asked his wife to conceal firearms, among which was an unregistered .40 cal. Glock 22. Looks to me like these are the guys. 😮

@PianoGesang 23 дня назад

Anyone noticed that in the scene when they were released from prison they didn't look like innocents being finally released but just the opposite? Does that make them guilty? No but it is surely striking.

@marivipalomino6975 23 дня назад

Christian might have saved his mate but he was killing other people at the same time. I don’t understand why people think military aren’t capable of killing others 🤔

@jenna-a-gogo 23 дня назад

Yep. They are literally trained killers. I'm not knocking the military, because that's their job. But to say someone couldn't be a murderer because they served is an absolutely ridiculous argument.

@angel2000317 22 дня назад

It's actually shocking if you watch/listen to enough true crime content, just how many murderers/serial killers have prior or current military experience. I keep wondering if anyone has compiled the data on that.

@456dawnie 22 дня назад

@angel2000317 They have. We're just not going to shown the statistics/data on it

@angel2000317 22 дня назад

@@456dawnie Do you mean there are records that are kept from the general public?

@teddyjam8134 23 дня назад

I remember this story. They thought they were home free after being released, and got thrown right back in jail where they belong.

@moppy6 23 дня назад

They looked guilty when they walked out of prison the first time

@user-mv7kh5sv9z 23 дня назад

@@moppy6Yup, especially the Cristin Smith guy holding the baby with his pathetic fake sobs

@pixi2209 23 дня назад

@@user-mv7kh5sv9zExactly... Poor actor with loud sobing. He told about his military brother... Yeh, the reason why the mur. derer should be released. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤯

@sonquatsch8585 23 дня назад

@@user-mv7kh5sv9z and inability to look up into the cam.

@abigailh7715 23 дня назад

They'll be freed with the Innocence Project

@nancy143ish 22 дня назад

Am I the only one getting Bundt vibes from Christian Smith as he walking out with the baby talking to the reporter?

@markjason5540 4 дня назад

Yea I just watched this and that was the first thing I thought. He didn't act right aye.

@diannenaworensky6698 16 дней назад

Thank you 48hours for putting this full episode on

@julesclem7197 23 дня назад

They were 17/18 years old. When I turned 25, I was a completely different person. It's called you grow up. Doesn't change the fact I was "young and stupid."

@nbaoldgirl 22 дня назад

Preach!

@RoHa2525 22 дня назад

Exactly!! 7 years is a long time to realize your mistakes and learn from them. I feel like they are leading the lives they are because they regret that stupid decision when they were teens.

@KM-un8oj 22 дня назад

OMG...this wasn't a liquor store robbery....it was a MUCH bigger "young and stupid" than that....and if they DO regret it, they didn't regret it enough to plead guilty...a purple heart doesn't mean you're not a psychopath....psychopaths do not experience fear...they thrive in war...just sayin'...food for thought....

@laraoneal7284 21 день назад

The brain isn’t even fully developed until 26 years of age. The frontal lobes needed for decision making specifically r not fully developed until 26.

@KM-un8oj 21 день назад

@@laraoneal7284Wow…just…wow….

@caroleminke6116 23 дня назад

Narcissistic personality disorder is revenge oriented because a narc cannot take rejection & always needs to control his toys

@giorgos.triantafyllidis. 23 дня назад

Exactly. And he thinks he owns his ex girlfriend, even if he moves on with another relationship. They view their ex, as their property. (Greetings from Greece).

@km4336 20 дней назад

💯

@ivydickson7596 20 дней назад

Coercive control and stalking. Controllers cannot let the controlled person move on without them.

@GreenClean662 18 дней назад

Amen!!

@janecarolbaldivia1430 17 дней назад

MISMO!

@annbegley8497 23 дня назад

I do find it odd that Javier's lawyer wanted complete immunity for him to testify to grand jury why? That seems kinda sus to me. I just hope that the right people are convicted for a horrible crime.

@hedgemist691 20 дней назад

Why would anyone want to live there? It's horrible.

@dj_1969 23 дня назад

What a coincidence the ex joked about burning down someone’s house . Defense attorneys are idiots .

@leelunk8235 23 дня назад

DEFENSE ATTORNEYS ARE THEIR JOBS, DEFEND THEIR CLIENTS, THEY GET PAID WELL FOR IT

@sonquatsch8585 23 дня назад

and the specificity of the statement. not we'll get em or they'll get theirs, no burn down house. c'mon.

@AnimaLibera 23 дня назад

They do what they are paid to do.

@danielboston8806 23 дня назад

In every 48 hr episode these cruel criminals always say or do something that makes the prosecutors chuckle.

@user-df5jn2vy2t 23 дня назад

and you are the smart one??????????????????????????

@353Chaos353 23 дня назад

"My son, who is a soldier, doesn't take lives." 😬

@Lila-do6md 16 дней назад

The DELUSION! 😂

@Jo_Cruz 10 дней назад

They plant flowers...

@luvbig41 6 дней назад

The irony is staring him in the face.

@Purplenpinkk 21 день назад

That billboard they put up was very powerful. Such a sad story.

@michalaleskandr3985 16 дней назад

When that man was holding his newborn, he said this... "I hope life can get back to normal". An innocent man wouldn't be "hoping"... there wouldn't have been a second thought that they got it right finally!

@dinomite078 23 дня назад

It’s so annoying to hear families say “ I know him he would not do that ……. “ . All killers have two sides . The side they show to family and friends AND THE DARK SIDE !!!!

@angieburnett4341 19 дней назад

I completely agree, it IS annoying!! You are spot-on with the 2 sides, this statement and it describes my ex-husband perfectly.

@joez.2794 6 дней назад

People who can't put themselves in the shoes of others are so annoying. We all know "someone who would not do that." Now imagine someone who never met them is confidently claiming they did do that.

@QueendomCome621 23 дня назад

It's always crazy how delusional families can be when it comes to their loved ones. No matter what the evidence, they refuse to believe it.

@brianamaldonado2555 23 дня назад

I was thinking this too the whole time I was hearing the families speak so highly of them. Parents have no idea what happens outside home. These 2 monsters for sure did the crime and must do the time.

@vit3869 23 дня назад

Baffles me too, especially parents. Maybe they think that it makes them look as horrible people to have "raised" such a monster.

@williamelliott 23 дня назад

Parents should always say what are my kids doing instead of my kid wouldn't do that

@codyviera92 23 дня назад

I agree, there is no evidence against those 2 guys.That family is delusional

@codyviera92 23 дня назад

Rest in peace to the victims. Very sad case.

@99names16 19 дней назад

I’m not defending them I don’t know what happened- but not one other employee, not one other witness, he was already talking to someone else. I think Becky’s friend lied: the manager in charge that night said nothing like that happened. Literally everything is hearsay. The defense attorney is right. The friends also the one saying he was calling her 30 times that night when they hung out. I don’t know man. I’m on the fence, The sister was right tho - guilty until proven innocent- everyone in the comments make that clear. “I feel he did it” blah blah blah

@firenze5555 5 дней назад

Not true. I just watched this 1 hour episode but it’s not like sitting inside the court room and hearing all of the evidence. I didn’t sit through the court case and hear all of the evidence. Did you? The jury deliberated for 10 days before their verdict. I accept the jury’s verdict. The 2 men can appeal.

@MermaidDolphinNYC 23 дня назад

Having worked in law for a long time, I have never seen such a weak case and I am shocked that the jury found them guilty.

@joez.2794 6 дней назад

Modern juries are terrifying. I think it's a symptom of the increased trust in authority/desire for authoritarianism ("well, if you, the highest attorney in the state, say he did it, then he probably did it").

@firenze5555 5 дней назад

You weren’t there in the court room and the jury deliberated for 10 days - they hardly made a snap decision.

@joez.2794 5 дней назад

@@firenze5555 The idea it might've taken 10 days to wear down one or more "holdouts" who wanted to get back to their families/lives doesn't exactly fill me with comfort, either.

@firenze5555 5 дней назад

@@joez.2794Or they wanted to make sure that they meticulously went through all the evidence before they found the two killers guilty.

@joez.2794 5 дней назад

@@firenze5555 That's basically what you said the first time. My point is it's not the only possibility.

@nikismith3784 23 дня назад

It's so annoying how 'being in the military' is seen as some kind of mark of a good person. That's not what comes to mind at all.

@Rosi22229 21 день назад

The opposite actually, think of vanessa Guillen. Just one example

@tesskaiser2190 21 день назад

Agreed, new neighbor is military, their teens have been harassing the neighborhood doorbell ditching breaking property outside etc. When confronted, she said prove it. I'm like, my eyes. I saw them. I now have a ring camera. Aggressive weirdos. I was mislead thinking she was dignified dating a soldier. Nope

@VelveteenRabbitinRedFern 21 день назад

Yeah, some are forced into the military via the courts.

@angelabacker1177 20 дней назад

Coming from a military family, your statement is offensive and disturbing.

@Rosi22229 20 дней назад

@@angelabacker1177 I'm a military family too but I have the ability to see it for what it is

@KOFPV 23 дня назад

I stand by soldiers however Your son took lives in Afghanistan, don't get it twisted.

@that.ll_do_pig 23 дня назад

Yeah, the cognitive dissonance in stating that he's saving one person while he's actively shooting at others, is a bit absurd

@mariap.9240 23 дня назад

When they say war hero, that actually means he killed before

@starzmwl9327 23 дня назад

1000% taking lives is simply that taking lives, does not matter what soil you are on when doing such is never justified

@ezzb 23 дня назад

EXACTLY! I'm like.. sir.. he was in Afghanistan so he doesn't take lives? killing people it's one of the reasons he was there to beginning whit

@mattmatt6572 23 дня назад

From the picture of the two at 17 and 18 I'm going with roid rage. Most 17 18 yo I ever known not so stacked. Cept some the athletes who are taking supplements and roids. Most men would naturally start to fill out to that capacity in their mid to later 20s

@user-iq6kv4fx5n 22 дня назад

I knew the way Christian was hugging his daughter, he was thinking: I hope no one harms her the way I harmed Becky and did you see how he did not even acknowledge Robert? Watch it again.

@arbjful 13 дней назад

Yeah I watched it again. He was hugging her cause she was feeling cold….i don’t know why they didn’t wrap her in warm clothes, babies need to be kept warm

@sdh4557 11 дней назад

I thought the same thing!

@NuKim-ld1tw 22 дня назад

I do think it is very suspicious that the friend was pinged near the house as well, was granted immunity and didn’t testify in front of the grand jury because dude was “a good lawyer”

@arbjful 13 дней назад

Yes, I have my doubts on him

@dazeyday5699 4 дня назад

Did you miss the part about where he was corroborated to have been elsewhere when the actual murders took place? And this was definitely a multiple person job.

@lorettagilmore8830 23 дня назад

This happened in my town. Everyone here still believes it was the boyfriend. They had a really unhealthy and obsessive relationship.

@jmac430 23 дня назад

The one who was found guilty or her boyfriend at the time?

@user-mv7kh5sv9z 23 дня назад

@@jmac430"the boyfriend" meaning the ex who is now in prison for life

@StofStuiver 23 дня назад

people in love are always obsessed.

@meldog7925 23 дня назад

I understand why they think it's the ex-boyfriend and I'm not saying it's not but what about that Javier guy? He seems suspicious. What about his father working for the police department and the ability to cover it up?. They pointed the finger right at the ex-boyfriend. There was no real evidence that the the Ex-Boyfriend and the friend went to go hiking with her

@StofStuiver 22 дня назад

@@meldog7925 Thats what ive been saying too. There hardly is any evidence. 2 ppl testifying that they were there, but the pings from the 2 are at opposite sides of the city. And there is nothing puting them there. And a business card with dna on it. That doesnt do much here. Its something, but by far not enough. This case will be tossed at some point. Unless there is evidence that wasnt mentioned. They probably did it, but with the statute of reasonable doubt, i wouldnt be able to convict. And they sure should look at the Javier fella

@ronaldwilson9525 23 дня назад

The defense attorneys always sound like liars.

@garyolsen3409 23 дня назад

that's because they are.

@iclite3656 23 дня назад

😂. Did you watch the Jim Carey movie Liar Liar? The lawyer lies and so does the client

@earthrooster1969 23 дня назад

They know it comes with their chosen territory unfortunately...

@CourtneyGilmartin 23 дня назад

Because they are snakes

@Naturefan354 23 дня назад

But all lawyers lie, even prosecuters

@judgedayan9934 15 дней назад

There really isn't enough information about the evidence in the case, but the defense lawyer is perfectly right; the case never rose to "beyond a reasonable doubt."

@LisaLazuliAstrology 10 дней назад

Glad to see someone here understands the actual evidence was weak.

@judgedayan9934 10 дней назад

@@LisaLazuliAstrology I was a judge for 18 years.

@LisaLazuliAstrology 9 дней назад

@@judgedayan9934 OK, that's interesting.

@Laura-Panda88 18 дней назад

My mom has always said “I only know my kids here in front of my nose” It is safe today you can know someone very well but they could always have a dark side

@mattbrown8139 23 дня назад

Wait, lol. So daddy says the guns just happened to be in the trunk of his car out of state at the time of the murders? Lol. Tell me you fabricated a lack of access without telling me you fabricated a lack of access.

@Gapeh0rn 21 день назад

I don’t think it’s far fetched that a good father , traveling out of town , wouldn’t want to leave his teenage son home alone with guns

@Lennybird91 20 дней назад

@@Gapeh0rnI do. Nobody does this.

@mattbrown8139 20 дней назад

@@Gapeh0rn Why? Obviously he didn’t take the guns with him to work every day. If he trusted his son so little, he would have never left the guns there even when he wasn’t out of town. That makes no sense. I have plenty of family members who have guns and absolutely do not travel with them just because they won’t be home for a while. Makes no sense.

@seafoambeachcomb 20 дней назад

My thoughts exactly

@Gapeh0rn 20 дней назад

Well I don’t think we know a. Why he went out of town b. How many guns he even had . If it was like 2 I could see him just bringing them along but a few more than that I totally agree with you

@MsZoe85 23 дня назад

Poor thing Just 18, she wouldn’t have any idea how to deal with an abusive boyfriend

@TheStar798 23 дня назад

Unfortunately, there's very limited defence against 'crazy' 😢

@portiawalker8334 23 дня назад

No one does….at any age. Women who have left, stayed away, told family and friends…AND kept a paper trail with police. Still killed.

@StofStuiver 23 дня назад

What do you mean, abusive???? Who said anything about abuse in the video?

@StofStuiver 23 дня назад

@@portiawalker8334 Women? Men are more often abused than women... And where is the abuse in this video? It wasnt even mentioned.

@MsZoe85 22 дня назад

@@portiawalker8334 yes that’s also sadly true I think it’s just harder to cope the younger you are But it’s not easy at any age and these ppl are vicious predators

@sandey42 20 дней назад

Praise the Lord. The truth ALWAYS comes out eventually.

@hittheheadlines2942 20 дней назад

36:07 "legal issues had arisen". That's code for "we have no real evidence"

@leaalia2394 23 дня назад

"He saves lives in Afghanistan" The world begs to differ 🙄

@hannikhadija3058 23 дня назад

Literally… to “save” lives im sure many were lost. So, in actuality he most likely did take lives. That statement made no sense. War doesn’t discriminate.

@bryancopca8480 23 дня назад

Have you been in Afghanistan?

@fokthewef 23 дня назад

Yup.. traveling 15000 kilometres to a foreign country and engaging in war with the locals is criminal at best

@fokthewef 23 дня назад

@@bryancopca8480have you? How was it shooting at people in their own country?

@fokthewef 23 дня назад

@@TheGhostOfMichaelJackson I respect other nation's rights to live their lives without interference from a foreign entity. Unlike you. Who gave you the rights to decide what people should do in their own country?

@katebowers8107 23 дня назад

“Felt safe in the rural setting… “-90% of true crime stories.

@sheilae.9670 23 дня назад

I know, right...smh Nowhere is safe, in my opinion. Crime can happen anywhere, unfortunately

@Poppyseed0990 23 дня назад

“Stuff like this just doesn’t happen here” It’s kind of annoying when they say that stuff because I think these horrible things can happen anywhere and to anyone. It’s sad but I believe it to be true.

@Xx-po1fu 23 дня назад

All it takes for a crime to occur, is the present of 2 or more people. Example the story of Cain and Abel.

@leelunk8235 23 дня назад

PROBLEM IS, THE FAMILY FAILED TO SAFEGUARD THEIR HOME, CCTV CAMERAS/ METAL GATES, FENCING, HEAVY FIREARMS, ETC ETC, RURAL SETTING IS SAFER THAN THE CITY , FACTS

@Wft-bu5zc 23 дня назад

@@Poppyseed0990 When you know the person, location doesn't matter at all. You already know them, it's not some stranger. This wasn't some home invasion.

@volairn70 18 дней назад

Anyone who says because you served in the military, you are a good person needs to consider such veterans as Jeffery Dahmer, Israel Keyes, Dennis Raider, Gary Ridgeway, Sam Berkowitz...loads of murderous people do well in the military. A few of those men did very well and were respected by the people who were serving with them at the time.

@coreywilkinson2778 23 дня назад

Please tell me they found some real evidence before the second trial?!!? Otherwise, the jury should be ashamed of themselves. There's no way I could say they were guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based on everything I just heard.

@lotekpro 23 дня назад

"He's an army veteran that is active in the church" So was Dennis BTK Rader.🤦‍♂️ "Here's a picture of him saving someone's life with one hand while shooting his rifle at Afgans with the other" 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ What does he think the gun was firing? Hugs and Rainbows 🤦‍♂️🙄

@aubryellaotero1064 23 дня назад

Literally that comment made my jaw drop like so he was shooting at and killing other human beings huh??? Just not Americans.

@cherylmoss3632 23 дня назад

Guilty as hell.

@thegoatudontknow 23 дня назад

what proof ?

@leelunk8235 23 дня назад

@@thegoatudontknow PLENTY OF PROOF, GLAD YOU HAVE A DESK JOB AT A MENTAL INSTITUTE

@principecaprincipeca2243 23 дня назад

@@thegoatudontknowwatch the program. There was plenty.

@cherylmoss3632 23 дня назад

@@thegoatudontknow Intelligence and logic...to name just a small amount.

@Angiesensei. 23 дня назад

@@thegoatudontknow are you the killer's wife?????

@bonginkosimnkandla4730 19 дней назад

This man is crazy at least his able to visit his son and his talking about his son missing the biggest life events sad that that Becky missed out on everything. Her parents visit the grave every day they will never get to meet their daughter nor grandkids 😭😭😭😭😭

@navajo237 18 дней назад

I love how some of these stories have that one obligatory friend. We all know who that is. The one the producers scour for, to put on camera. The one who makes the flat out wild admission that the person who was killed, did in fact, actually tell them how they were in fear or was told outright they would be killed. And when asked why they didn't do anything about it, as such a loving and caring friend would and should do, they always chalk it up to some lame, weak excuse why they did nothing. Face it, you're lying. You barely knew the girl, the family, and just wanted to get on TV.

@shanelgarcia 8 дней назад

100%

@debbiefreeman9481 23 дня назад

He makes her pay for his bad behavior, he’s a creep and he makes her pay. A person who’s ‘moved on’ doesn’t call the ex girlfriend 50 times in one night. Witnesses in court have to swear to tell the truth or risk perjury, but lawyers and prosecutors get to lie their as- off and twist the truth - something not right about that.

@melluques8475 23 дня назад

Exactly 🤷‍♀️🙏🏻🕊

@kimberlyhood4095 23 дня назад

So do the cops during an interrogation, you perjure yourself and it will be used against you in a court of law.

@StofStuiver 23 дня назад

Thats how the system works... Everywhere, where they have a western based system. You'd think people would know something about it by now... but obviously few do. The moved on, was 7 years later, so not relevant to the case really.

@firenze5555 5 дней назад

Like the way OJ moved on after his divorce from Nicole Brown Simpson? He was dating other women too.

@MELINDADHERBERT 23 дня назад

My mother always said "Never swear for anyone because you don't know what they are willing to do given the circumstances." A human being can be many things, you can only talk about how they treat YOU, that's it.

@eraldadevole 23 дня назад

Not to mention how “unheard” is that unstable ppl w criminal tendencies follow certain paths or jobs

@user-xe7zc2dd2p 23 дня назад

Exactly 💯

@laurymo2163 23 дня назад

Words of wisdom.

@stfuplsok 23 дня назад

@@eraldadevole *paths

@shawnadeyo 23 дня назад

EXACTLY 💯

@WhitneySt0rmy 20 дней назад

I am not convinced they did it. Based on what we've seen here, how on earth was a jury convinced?

@karendodson9136 20 дней назад

Great job on this, Troy Roberts!!! I hadn't heard about this case before.

@user-eb7ko2cf8l 23 дня назад

He saves lives in Afghanistan? That's a good joke

@Yusuave 23 дня назад

I'm sure this psycho was also responsible for gunning down a bunch of innocent civs out there. They're both guilty af. I'm kinda surprised their conviction took so long.

@baileyarnold2020 23 дня назад

I literally almost spit out my drink! I was like "now sir...we all know that is false" lmao

@jasonv.9015 23 дня назад

Who cares if he was in the military, that means nothing when his threats of death came true

@pixi2209 23 дня назад

Exactly.

@gertrudematilda 23 дня назад

You are so right. Many join the military to try and escape charges.

@StofStuiver 23 дня назад

He was in the military AFTER this event. They were both 18. Hadnt been in the military yet.

@PianoGesang 23 дня назад

Oh yes it means something, or what do you think military stands for? Since when is the US Army a defense force?

@cgrnt16944 23 дня назад

Non-violent people don't do well in the military...and he apparently did incredibly well.

@Aleks-Athame 22 дня назад

18:39 i hate this excuse so so so much. why do so many people think that going to church automatically makes you a good person?

@oldcremona 19 дней назад

I thought the conclusion of this show was a little incomplete. They get released, then the rearrest and trial was covered in just a few minutes. I’d like to have a little more information about the trail.

@kseniyaled 23 дня назад

Serving for the military doesn’t excuse him for what he did. Absolutely despicable!

@PianoGesang 23 дня назад

In fact it's just the other way around

@bradr2142 22 дня назад

He Brought tremendous amount of embarrassment to the military.

@bobgillis1137 22 дня назад

I agree. Neither does it make you heroic. Media pushes war.

@llm8268 23 дня назад

All that guy stated was he cared about “loyalty” from his people. A big problem. Their families are enablers of narcissistic men. Jury did the right thing. 💙

@Lennybird91 20 дней назад

Prosecutor got pressured, huh... Folks in high places. "I'm a good lawyer" 🤢🤮

@bleeknee28 16 дней назад

Such a scary thing that so many families do!

@Alphacentauri819 16 дней назад

Yeahhh, the mafia, cults, are about “loyalty”. Their definition often means to go along with very rigid rules, narratives, and they can’t see, understand, anything outside of that. They are easily threatened by the complexity of life…so their “anchors” are all trying to mitigate that

@Weezy10580 15 дней назад

Case was paper thin

@Bouncingmarbles 22 дня назад

Thank you, so much!!!

@ilovebrandnewcarpets 19 дней назад

@28:30 this happened in the year 2007. It’s not unusual at all for teenagers not to use their phone for a couple hours in 2007. There’s no Netflix or streaming on your phone or anything like that. I don’t even think we were texting back… Maybe T9?

@joez.2794 6 дней назад

That's a really good point. We were texting in 2007 (1st iPhone came out in 2006 I think), but not commonly. Most people still had to text using the keypad which was a PITA plus a 40-character text was like $.10/ea.. I mean, if they can show the last time they went two hours without using their phone was over a year ago, then yeah that's something. But it sounds like this "evidence" shouldn't have been let in.

@lesliewarnell5172 23 дня назад

"The worst devils are sitting in the pews and standing in the pulpit." - Mama

@songforseptember4697 23 дня назад

A to the men!!! 💯

@bdml77 23 дня назад

Wise mama

@caramileelliott1719 23 дня назад

Amen, sister! The devil makes a lot of people do crazy stuff. That’s why I am very careful to trust people with my kids!

@brandonm6231 23 дня назад

This right here. Facts

@paleandbeyond 23 дня назад

My grandfather was very high up in a local chapel. He was no murderer, but he certainly didn't take the sanctimony of marriage seriously. My mum hated that hypocrisy. Do as you will, repent afterwards! I remember hearing a woman saying in a diner to her girlfriends 'I may not lead the perfect life, but I read my bible every day'. That says it all to me!

@jbrumundsmith 23 дня назад

When the lawyer starts stuttering, you know he's about to spew some nonsense.

@1927su 23 дня назад

That’s not always true, I took care of a older gent that had a stutter ; it was hard for him to try to overcome, he never did completely

@darkhorse7460 23 дня назад

Yeah, anyway, a good lawyer spews nonsense WITHOUT stuttering!@@1927su

@wordivore 22 дня назад

@@1927su Was he a lawyer? The comment said, "When a lawyer..." But then I think a more accurate word would be stammer. Javier's lawyer definitely stammered before answering that one question. Edit: And hadn't stammered before that. So he didn't just simply have some general stutter/stammer problem

@brianbiechele1908 21 день назад

Thank you. Should have watched to the end.

@RARochester 18 дней назад

Why would Javier ask for IMMUNITY ??????????? This is a question that MUST be answered.

@hiphopjewels 11 дней назад

Any lawyer who represents him should do their job and protect him before he testifies or gives a statement to law enforcement or the court. He admitted that he was originally planning to go hiking with the group, and he was on his way up there, in close proximity near the time of the murders. So, it's only natural to make sure he's protected and, as his attorney, make sure no one tries to tie him in as a potential third accomplice. He was clearly a witness, tried to be forthright and honest at the outset, and needed to make sure he wasn't going to get tied in with the killers. Clearly, the victim changed her mind and told him not to come hiking, most likely because someone convinced her that he wasn't welcome. He was only going to foil their plans.

@FunkyPhunk 11 дней назад

My final observation is that this was indeed psychopathy, not sociopathy. The planning was crucial to distinguish, Sociopaths are poor planners. She was even posed in front of the house.

@LisaLazuliAstrology 10 дней назад

Yes, these episodes only present a small subset of information and the purpose is mainly to entertain and so one should be asking these questions. What about the conflict of interests with Javier too!

@Robert-lc6dv 5 дней назад

Agreed. "Because I'm a good lawyer" isn't an adequate answer to that question, which makes it even weirder. Especially with Javier's ties to power in the area.

@RARochester 5 дней назад

@@hiphopjewels Any lawyer would have him sit in a deposition and say on his behalf "you don't have to answer that "; real easy. So ALL of your statement is common knowledge, immaterial and inconsistent. Here: If he was " clearly a witness " then why this sentence ?????? " the victim changed her mind and told him not to come hiking, most likely because someone convinced her that he wasn't welcome. He was only going to foil their plans. " How was Javier a witness if he wasn't there ????? Do you see how INCONSISTENT your argument is ?? Terrible try; your critical thinking skills leave a lot to be desired !!!!!

@ilyearer 23 дня назад

"My son saves lives... he doesn't take lives." Uh, he was deployed to Afghanistan. Do you think he was a pacifist soldier? Unless he was a medic, he's signed up to take lives by the nature of the job. Not bashing military members, it's just what they are trained to do.

@StofStuiver 23 дня назад

Irrelevant. It happened b4 he ever joined the army. Or the other one; church.

@ilyearer 23 дня назад

@@StofStuiver So how exactly does his son "save lives"? The point is that his statement alluding to his military service does not indicate a peaceful nature. Quite the opposite. If he was a doctor or a charity worker, then you could make that "he saves lives, not takes them" argument.

@Sig_P229 22 дня назад

@@ilyearer he dragged his buddy out of combat while being hit. He earned 2 purple hearts. Objectively that is a hero that saved his friend's life. He wasn't saying wars save lives.