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Muscle vs Turbo: The New Volkswagen Golf R Takes on the New Mustang in a Drag Race! 

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( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! The Volkswagen Golf R is the hottest and most capable Golf you can buy, but for the same money you can get a 480-horsepower Ford Mustang GT with a rip-snorting V8 engine. But how much quicker is one over the other? Kase takes each car to the track (and a ringer) to find out!
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@ericmorris2831
@ericmorris2831 5 месяцев назад
Manual golf VS automatic mustang isn't exactly a fair fight
@Marbind
@Marbind 5 месяцев назад
V8 vs 4Cyl High 400hp vs Low 300hp
@chrism869
@chrism869 5 месяцев назад
Yeah fr they need the dsg one
@tapout954
@tapout954 5 месяцев назад
Both manual or both dct would've been fair.
@woocoheed
@woocoheed 5 месяцев назад
It’s realistic though. Manual take rate for golf R is decently high
@bobuncle8704
@bobuncle8704 5 месяцев назад
As stated in the video, both cars are essentially the same price, so looking at value. As well, both manufacturers claim an equivalent 0 to 60 time, so should be relatively equal in that department. They did point out most of the inequalities, so they’re quite up front about all that.
@Seventh7Art
@Seventh7Art 5 месяцев назад
DSG makes a huge difference compared to the manual gearbox...
@tombentley6329
@tombentley6329 5 месяцев назад
The fact a manual was used over a Auto DSG made me sick. This video is a no from me.
@edwpolanco
@edwpolanco 5 месяцев назад
Does the dsg variant come with more hp? If not, the result would've been the same.
@DynamicAttraction
@DynamicAttraction 5 месяцев назад
@@edwpolanco yes it does and it shifts faster then a human Google the golf r manual vs dsg stats
@amaldev4150
@amaldev4150 5 месяцев назад
@@tombentley6329 What about 30mph race?
@andrezirkler9062
@andrezirkler9062 5 месяцев назад
Wrong - just take a look at the diff in performance (as documented by Car&Driver): "2022 Golf R with the seven-speed automatic transmission hit 60 mph in just 4.1 seconds; with the six-speed manual, the Golf R needed 4.9"
@john-martin
@john-martin 5 месяцев назад
The mustang has 100hp more and a 10 spd auto transmission. Would have been better if the VW had a DSG trans.
@leofhr2966
@leofhr2966 5 месяцев назад
I agree the dsg would have been better for comparison, but the manual is more fun and has just as good of a time as the dsg, not TOO much of a difference. Sometimes (extremely rare) the manual might actually get a better time. Either way the Volks had it's advantages too.
@charlienevergold3654
@charlienevergold3654 5 месяцев назад
@@leofhr2966type R DSG O-60 is 4.2 manual is close to 5. No way a manual could ever beat a DSG. Thats why Porsche won’t put a manual is some RS models. The all important lap times were pitiful while testing is manual.
@layne4376
@layne4376 5 месяцев назад
@@leofhr2966 Absolutely not. The DSG does the quarter in 12.4 at 111 mph. The manual is almost a second slower at 104 mph. Not only does the DSG produce more torque, but that transmission never drops boost.
@tinleo333
@tinleo333 5 месяцев назад
Is actually 141hp more.
@tinleo333
@tinleo333 5 месяцев назад
@@layne4376 Manuals are fun but they are slow, this is not the 90s.
@zeitgeist888
@zeitgeist888 5 месяцев назад
Wow you have to do a better comparison. First get a better driver for the Golf R if you are going to put a manual against the 10 speed auto Mustang. 16's is atrocious unless you are running in the stratosphere. That is just bad driving. Second comparing a 6 sp manual to 10 speed auto is too huge a difference for any kind of fair comparison. Compare auto to DSG and manual to manual and you will see much closer races.
@jasonhabedank7122
@jasonhabedank7122 5 месяцев назад
The driver didn't account for 3 seconds.
@zeitgeist888
@zeitgeist888 5 месяцев назад
@@jasonhabedank7122 Closer to 4 seconds. Golf Rs run mid to high 12s anywhere near sea level. Even at altitude it should run way quicker than 16seconds with even a fair driver who knows how to launch and shift.
@glh_somemore
@glh_somemore 8 дней назад
According to C&D.... A 486hp auto Mustang A "properly matched" opponent Golf R DSG And a C43 AMG as presented... All 3 ran 3.9s 0-60 times using launch control. All are fast in their own way and not full EV's so let's rejoice in that.
@muskcoder6367
@muskcoder6367 5 месяцев назад
The DSG in the VW 'R' would have been a better choice.
@JVette01
@JVette01 5 месяцев назад
Next race: Camaro ZL1 10 speed vs Mustang EcoBoost with a manual!
@x1boomer
@x1boomer 4 месяца назад
camaro is 💀
@totov7673
@totov7673 3 месяца назад
Not a fair race 😂 both auto
@totov7673
@totov7673 3 месяца назад
🤣 the ZL1 auto V8 2001-2012 sucks it does 1/4 mile in 14.7
@nyelement007
@nyelement007 2 месяца назад
11.4@124
@totov7673
@totov7673 2 месяца назад
@@nyelement007 Yea probably the 2024 one but not even 12.5@124 at best. I saw 3 drag race there best was 14.7 but this is the 2001-2008 model.
@morgandrives
@morgandrives 5 месяцев назад
No one buys a Mustang for interior quality, space, or interior details. It is the engine. Still miss mine.
@kazigen911
@kazigen911 4 месяца назад
What happened to it bro
@decimator5494
@decimator5494 4 месяца назад
You cant compare a base Mustang interior against the top of the line interior of another manufacturer. If you at least got the premium high option has 5 interior color choices. The base has just 2, all black which you have and black/grey.
@Mr0sito
@Mr0sito 4 месяца назад
Yes you can bro they cost the same😂 once you add options to a GT they can get up to 65k. You can get M2 for that.@decimator5494
@HD_Kerino
@HD_Kerino 4 месяца назад
@@Mr0sitoyup, hope they have fun in their fast rental car😢
@sd3564
@sd3564 3 месяца назад
@@HD_KerinoI’d take the mustang any day over any bmw
@tizodd6
@tizodd6 5 месяцев назад
@5:30 It looks like FORD just glued a couple of tablets onto the Mustang dash😂
@Rskitalll
@Rskitalll 5 месяцев назад
For the money the Mustang is hard to beat. The V8 sound is unmistakable
@omardevonlittle3817
@omardevonlittle3817 5 месяцев назад
its actually insanely easy to beat... like buy a clapped out model 3 for 15k.... leave it in the dust.
@fullspeedfordbronco
@fullspeedfordbronco 5 месяцев назад
@@omardevonlittle3817M3P for 15K? Where?
@Rskitalll
@Rskitalll 5 месяцев назад
That model 3 will last a month before you need to put more money in to it
@PazLeBon
@PazLeBon 5 месяцев назад
@@omardevonlittle3817 lolololl not all of us are teenagers
@tinleo333
@tinleo333 5 месяцев назад
Same thing are saying people in Germany about the price of VW.
@jet_black
@jet_black 4 месяца назад
The Golf R with the Dsg would take it. 100%
@garyjinks7482
@garyjinks7482 5 месяцев назад
Auto against 6 speed, where is the DSG not a fair race.
@genderlessyoutubefanperson
@genderlessyoutubefanperson 5 месяцев назад
With the DSG it would not be a fair race. :)
@carpentierjohn7
@carpentierjohn7 5 месяцев назад
boo hoo
@jeffkotanko8784
@jeffkotanko8784 5 месяцев назад
The manual mustang is faster than the 10 speed auto
@bryanfisher9087
@bryanfisher9087 5 месяцев назад
No dsg no launch mode vs auto trans with drag mode? Not sure what what they were going for here?
@grizzzlyadamz
@grizzzlyadamz 4 месяца назад
@@bryanfisher9087 basically performance cars at same price. That mustang actually $41,000 where I’m at. The golf r $46,000 with manual $48,000 dsg. To me that leaves the owner with 5,000-7,000 dollars to make it quicker and your own
@dwarnke72
@dwarnke72 5 месяцев назад
My bone stock dsg Golf R ran 12.6 @ 108 down here in Phoenix which never gets good air and is at 1700’. How does it lose 4 freaking seconds going to Colorado?
@AlejandroZavalaRichards
@AlejandroZavalaRichards 5 месяцев назад
Pretty sure they ran it with traction control on, it kills the manual Golf R
@joes3689
@joes3689 5 месяцев назад
Most tests show Golf R's DSG's running the 1/4 mile without mods in the 12's and manuals in the 13's even if you take away one second for the altitude a manual should run right around the 14's.
@JVette01
@JVette01 5 месяцев назад
Mine ran 12.5 @ 110.39 here in Vegas... it doesn't lose 4 seconds. It's a combo between manual trans and bad driver.
@genderlessyoutubefanperson
@genderlessyoutubefanperson 5 месяцев назад
@@JVette01 Yea, man...tell them, expose this BS video. :)
@dwarnke72
@dwarnke72 5 месяцев назад
@@JVette01 when are you taking your car back with the stage 1 tune?
@carloscanales6533
@carloscanales6533 5 месяцев назад
I didn't buy a mustang thinking someone was going to sit in the back ! Buy your own!
@tripsixx5802
@tripsixx5802 4 месяца назад
I’ve had 5 over the years and the back seat generally gets stripped out right before a/c 😂
@redtesta
@redtesta 5 месяцев назад
$46k for a golf. Never thought i would see that.
@orlandosantiago6398
@orlandosantiago6398 5 месяцев назад
imagine paying $63k for a mid size Toyota pickup truck lol
@goochigoochs3836
@goochigoochs3836 4 месяца назад
Right!?! I still remember our family got a Mustang Saleen S281 convertible for less than $30K twenty years ago. But in fairness, with all the safety technologies and driving aids, I think the price increase is justified in the sense that you are safer with more relaxing driving experience.
@BakerGermany
@BakerGermany 4 месяца назад
Imagine that we pay that for a standard golf in Europe. The golf R is about 70 k
@davelospinoso9022
@davelospinoso9022 4 месяца назад
Just paid 50k for an Acura Integra lol when i was 17, corvettes were 50k
@technopong
@technopong 4 месяца назад
Yeah, I wouldn't be shelling out for that.
@Travisj9935
@Travisj9935 5 месяцев назад
Omg give the golf R a dsg and make it fair... The Dsg is amazing! Omg that guy can't drive a manual!
@JVette01
@JVette01 5 месяцев назад
The guy was awful at manual. Yes, the DSG is a worlds difference.
@saigoneze4465
@saigoneze4465 4 месяца назад
He's 96 what would you expect lmao
@totov7673
@totov7673 3 месяца назад
​@@saigoneze4465In a manual your trap always same its his 60 foot must be in the 3. My friend first try was also 16@97mph but after 5 tries he did 13.8@97mph but his 60 foot is 2.0. Even your great in a manual your going to loose half a second its not a fair race 😂 .
@tomfromeyer6230
@tomfromeyer6230 5 месяцев назад
The 24 mustang is sharp! Looks great and drives great 💪🏻
@jamesjohnson3910
@jamesjohnson3910 4 месяца назад
Looks too much like a Camaro.
@mboiko
@mboiko 5 месяцев назад
What's really crazy is that $46K is now considered a "lower" cost car. Compare Consumer Price Inflation/Index before Jan 2020 to today. They are two different worlds. Maybe we should send another $100B to Ukraine and I say this as someone who happens to be 50% Ukranian. Great job guys...!
@krane15
@krane15 5 месяцев назад
Not quite. But it is approaching the 50k average car cost.
@edbowejr6130
@edbowejr6130 5 месяцев назад
And people don’t see the inflation or think the economy is doing well
@TheWolfMatt
@TheWolfMatt 5 месяцев назад
@@edbowejr6130 That's the crazy part. You can't even get a basic Honda Civic for less than 30k these days whereas, only a couple years ago, would have been in the high teens.
@mboiko
@mboiko 5 месяцев назад
@@TheWolfMatt Yes, but that was in the "Old Days"...a whole 36-48+ Months Ago. Within the time of a lease agreement. You want to really be scared...the US National Debt is increasing now at a rate of $1 TRILLION every 100 days!
@deejay2793
@deejay2793 5 месяцев назад
Jeez I remember the good old days when you could get a new 5.0 gt for 23k 😂
@gregc9220
@gregc9220 5 месяцев назад
Man y'all making me want to buy another mustang 😅
@bengilrane
@bengilrane 5 месяцев назад
16 SECOND QUARTER MILE IN A GOLF R U MUST BE JOKING, they normally run low 13 😳
@thatfordguy2268
@thatfordguy2268 5 месяцев назад
They're a mile above sea level. Air is thinner and It vastly affects performance. They have said this over and over, try listening sometime.😏
@ContentinMesa
@ContentinMesa 5 месяцев назад
@@thatfordguy2268 3 seconds seems excessive.
@leofhr2966
@leofhr2966 5 месяцев назад
​ @ContentinMesa poor track with barely any grip, poor air (turbo charged barely hets affected), poor overall run, 3 seconds is not shocking chief
@voodoodiecast
@voodoodiecast 5 месяцев назад
Clearly have no idea what you’re watching.
@joshjohannsen106
@joshjohannsen106 5 месяцев назад
Turbocharged cars are not affected by altitude the way a NA car is. A NA car loses 3% hp per 1000' elevation a turbo is less then 1%
@T3banin
@T3banin 4 месяца назад
you need to be drunk to understand this comparison
@fjalics
@fjalics 3 месяца назад
Should have brought the new Model 3 performance.
@JoshuaBSams
@JoshuaBSams 3 месяца назад
I’m too drunk to taste this chicken
@erniefigueroa20
@erniefigueroa20 4 месяца назад
Next time, put a better driver in the Golf R. That car is much faster than that…
@krane15
@krane15 19 дней назад
It wouldn't matter. The manual is only so fast, regardless of how talented the drive is. The many car also has less hp than the automatic. The 2025 are up-to 333hp.
@brettdiehl1965
@brettdiehl1965 5 дней назад
@@krane15 It has the same horsepower but less torque. Source: I own a 2024 Golf R 6MT. Love it. But if I wanted the faster car I would've gotten the DSG. As it stands I just love the engagement of driving a manual and I'll tune it to get to over 400 hp to offset the fact that it's manual!
@OmarRodriguez-ky3nu
@OmarRodriguez-ky3nu 5 месяцев назад
Yeah why not do both manual or both auto.. makes no sense
@totov7673
@totov7673 3 месяца назад
agree not a fair race they make it sound like the mustang is fastest. Bro if they bring the auto golf r the mustang would loose by 1 second. Also they brought mercedez auto wich is great but also not a fair race bc its the worst germain car out of audi volkswagen and bmw. I dont know it looks like they purposly did that to make look like mustang is fast 😂
@mkviis
@mkviis Месяц назад
Golfs do not come in auto, so either R DSG vs Auto Mustang or both manuals
@totov7673
@totov7673 Месяц назад
@@mkviis DSG is auto its direct shift gearbox. It shows your american 😅
@mkviis
@mkviis Месяц назад
@@totov7673 dsg is dual clutch. Auto is torque converter.
@mkviis
@mkviis Месяц назад
@@totov7673 saying dsg auto is like saying manual auto. Auto has planetary gears, dsg is a manual gearbox in the inside. So saying dsg auto is like saying manual cvt mustang. It makes no sense so stop saying dsg auto 😂 dsg auto 🤣 you're so funny
@ezekielochieng8941
@ezekielochieng8941 5 месяцев назад
We need the 7-speed DSG dual clutch Golf R.
@krane15
@krane15 5 месяцев назад
Of course. The manual is limited by the ability of the driver.
@JCTiggs1
@JCTiggs1 Месяц назад
​​@@krane15The manual is also just slower no matter who is driving the R compared to the DSG. Same deal with the Mustang and the 10 spd auto vs the 6 spd manual. The individual gears are quite tall in both cars for the manual which is part of the reason.
@philjenkins2320
@philjenkins2320 5 месяцев назад
The slow mo launch with the Mustang was just beautiful.
@SubBro22
@SubBro22 5 месяцев назад
Loved that Slow-mo at the beginning of the drag race😍
@WaveManMike
@WaveManMike 5 месяцев назад
Can we get a redo with the DSG Golf R? It would be good to see the difference. I know everyone else is complaining but it’s fair to say it’ll be a successful video after all 😂
@JVette01
@JVette01 5 месяцев назад
They probably just run what's available to them. Anyone with a brain would've brought the DSG if they're trying to race a car with 171 more horsepower.
@davidwatson4723
@davidwatson4723 5 месяцев назад
What amazes me is 46000 for a GOLF!!!
@tedjones403
@tedjones403 4 месяца назад
Still below the average price for a vehicle in 2024 - I cannot believe what pick-ups sell for - talk about a rip off!
@grizzzlyadamz
@grizzzlyadamz 4 месяца назад
What’s crazy here where I live in East Tennessee. That mustang 41k and the golf r 48k.
@Niedersachse40
@Niedersachse40 3 месяца назад
I mean its a good car you should always Pick the dsg trans
@lawabiding2576
@lawabiding2576 2 месяца назад
They'll sell every one! It's a cult following....
@mkviis
@mkviis Месяц назад
46k is nothing, autobahn R sold for $68K in Dubai then went down to $54K
@honesttechreviews...1713
@honesttechreviews...1713 3 месяца назад
A DSG would have made a world of difference
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 5 месяцев назад
Love the slo-mo at launch!
@rockstertx
@rockstertx 5 месяцев назад
The 5.0 with a six speed manual gear box is the way to go... fun to drive, fun to wake up the neighbors and reliable all day long... hell it even gets decent mileage.
@Drako_93550
@Drako_93550 5 месяцев назад
You must like being the slow one! Smh
@chm2
@chm2 5 месяцев назад
Why would I want to wake up the neighbors? Because I am a jerk?
@timmy-wj2hc
@timmy-wj2hc 5 месяцев назад
The kid who likes to annoy his neighbors.
@deanhawk7260
@deanhawk7260 5 месяцев назад
Oh yeah I have a 6 speed manual and it’s a kick. 1st and 2nd pull like a freight train. Just a few bolt ons and a race tune, and this car is a monster. Auto is nice in traffic and for drag racing but that’s the only advantage IMHO.
@anthonye3680
@anthonye3680 5 месяцев назад
Americans don't know how to drive a manual transmission.. every year less and less Americans buy stick .. the wussyfication of the USA is strong. Change the W to a P.
@MarcSob22
@MarcSob22 5 месяцев назад
So fake, the Golf can be way waaay faster than this!
@hwirtwirt4500
@hwirtwirt4500 5 месяцев назад
The Mustang GT too.
@joshc606
@joshc606 5 месяцев назад
Let’s remember commenters, the Mustang is on All Seasons and the Golf is on Pilot Sport tires. Get a driver with a redline clutch drop and it would have done better but would still lose in the end.
@orlandonoche
@orlandonoche 5 месяцев назад
you lost me as soon as you guy showed the vw with the manual transmission (REALLY?) , with a DSG the vw should be able to at least make this video interesting to watch , race the two cars with the same transmission (auto or manual) , is that so difficult???
@grantdavis6011
@grantdavis6011 5 месяцев назад
Yes, actually it is.
@orlandonoche
@orlandonoche 5 месяцев назад
@@grantdavis6011yes off course;😮there are just hundreds of mustangs out there with a manual transmission; getting one is such a “difficult task “ to accomplish right? ufff😅 , got it.
@legionmartin
@legionmartin 5 месяцев назад
When I was younger, build quality was not a major concern or care of mine. As I get older, a balance of build quality and performance is something I consider more seriously.
@Steve-yr5vi
@Steve-yr5vi 5 месяцев назад
The backseat is actually fairly usable, my kids when they were young loved them. My opinion, it's clear Ford put an effort into making the rear seat usable. The Mustang is appointed with one of the better 2+2 rear seats that can be found. Say what you want about that VW, at a quick glance it could be one of 20 different cars. At a glance a Mustang is instantly recognized. There comes a time when you no longer want a 4 door car, buying a sports car makes a statement in your life. For those in that market; a Mustang is very hard to dismiss. It's hard to say that the shear competence of the Mustang hasn't forced BMW to significantly increase their game with the BMW M cars. Here's your decision maker when comparing a M2/3/4 vs. a Mustang, sure the BMW is a quicker, it's nicer on the inside, however you know with zero doubt, you're gonna be dumping money into that M car to keep it on the road and out of the shop. A Mustang on the other hand is built to drive to hell and back as if were any other day.
@krane15
@krane15 5 месяцев назад
Its the incognito factor about the Golf R that makes it attractive.
@Steve-yr5vi
@Steve-yr5vi Месяц назад
@@krane15 For some, I recognize that.
@krane15
@krane15 19 дней назад
But there's no way an adult is going back there (even a short petite one) for more than a mile or two. The VW, while not a cavernous rear seat, is capable of adult comfort even on a road trip.
@Asaphunnna
@Asaphunnna 5 месяцев назад
Bruh yall tripping down here, the comparison is just for fun. Out of curiosity, yall getting ur feelings hurt
@Franz-vg6hy
@Franz-vg6hy 5 месяцев назад
Dear TFL ,dont mix appels with bananas, they are not the same Fruit ,Ultra fast Automatic with Launch Control against a manual transmission??
@zeke63
@zeke63 5 месяцев назад
The Mustang doesn't have launch control.
@leofhr2966
@leofhr2966 5 месяцев назад
What launch control ?
@layne4376
@layne4376 5 месяцев назад
@@zeke63 Yes it does. You can set the launch at several different RPM points.
@gman3563
@gman3563 5 месяцев назад
It's not supposed to be apples to apples. That's boring. The real world exists for a reason. If you rolled up to a light and wanted to race to the next one what would happen. That's what's cool about these comparisons. They are both 46k and built they way they are built
@DD-dj4jr
@DD-dj4jr 5 месяцев назад
Same price……different ice cream flavors…..great content!
@PaddyBoy644
@PaddyBoy644 5 месяцев назад
Everyone complaining about the comparison between two very different cars needs to understand a company life TFL does’t have a budget of Top Gear so they need to make content with what they have. I’m sure they’d love to have a DSG Golf but they might not have had the option. Great video as always guys I really enjoy your content. Cheers Pat🇦🇺
@thewiirocks
@thewiirocks 5 месяцев назад
While I agree with your premise, I'm a bit disappointed in the way this comparison is presented. There needs to be some sort of purpose. Something they're trying to prove about the differences between them. All they seem to be doing is say: "The Mustang is a better car for going fast." Which is kind of a no-brainer.
@Empok_Nor
@Empok_Nor 5 месяцев назад
They have no budget?? But yet they use a Mercedes Benz 😂
@PaddyBoy644
@PaddyBoy644 5 месяцев назад
@@Empok_Nor you might want to go read that comment again bud, I said they don’t have a budget of Top Gear who could just put an order in to any manufacture for what ever car they desire.
@likeatree-ei8it
@likeatree-ei8it 5 месяцев назад
Then they won't get as many likes and subscribes. You've got to pay to play!
@PaddyBoy644
@PaddyBoy644 5 месяцев назад
@@likeatree-ei8it how can pay with money you don’t have? All businesses have a strategy, I’m sure they’d have hypercars every video if they could.
@nevercedes2070
@nevercedes2070 5 месяцев назад
Worst launch I’ve ever seen on an AWD car
@harrymaier5727
@harrymaier5727 4 месяца назад
The computer cuts the power when you put it into full throttle and release the clutch. Is not the driver. If it doesn't you break it in 1 week. welcome to the vw world
@nevercedes2070
@nevercedes2070 4 месяца назад
@@harrymaier5727 lol I literally own this car, it doesn’t bog like that , 100% driver issue
@totov7673
@totov7673 3 месяца назад
​​Yea its a pain manual but a great driver knows not to floor it right way my friend did 13.8@97 yes took him 5 tries but 16 is just probably there only try.
@Niedersachse40
@Niedersachse40 3 месяца назад
Facts the diver cant drive manuel
@totov7673
@totov7673 3 месяца назад
@@Niedersachse40 Its not easy trust me it took my friend 5 to 6 tries his first try was 16@97mph 60 foot 3.0 All that change was 60 foot went to 2.0 13.8@97mph
@Drako_93550
@Drako_93550 5 месяцев назад
Ford > VW
@stockey
@stockey 5 месяцев назад
Nothing beats a V8 for the fun to drive.
@krane15
@krane15 19 дней назад
False. The Golfs are tossable and on a winding road will put a grin on your face every time.
@brettdiehl1965
@brettdiehl1965 5 дней назад
@@krane15 Correct. The V8 SOUNDS better but on a twisty windy road the big fat muscle car will have a hard time keeping up with a torque vectoring all wheel drive system that is deciding where to send the power to 1000 times per second.
@alexwestendorff1371
@alexwestendorff1371 5 месяцев назад
Guy sucks at manual first of all, way different hearing between dsg and 6 speed. Golf r will smoke the mustang in almost all daily activities. A simple tune (vw are known for) will make this beat the mustang in its straight line also. 🙏
@S650Jesse
@S650Jesse 4 месяца назад
5:25 I'd just like to mention, judging a base model 300A package on interior quality isn't too fair. The GT Premiums with the 401A package feel CONSIDERABLY better. Soft touch pho-leather completely covers the drivetrain tunnel, your dash, door cards. There's accented stitching on every surface, the seats are leather, etc. Sitting in the two of them is night and day .
@YournameHere-ye6ht
@YournameHere-ye6ht 4 месяца назад
Very true. And I optioned mine Atlas Blue with the Carmine Red interior....fire!
@billymays7210
@billymays7210 2 месяца назад
Exactly. The GT Premium vs the DSG R would have been much more even on price/ interior quality/ performance.
@Dudek28
@Dudek28 3 месяца назад
This drag race is incredibly flawed. The DSG Golf is considerably faster than the manual.
@brettdiehl1965
@brettdiehl1965 5 дней назад
It's not only faster with a DSG but they're also missing the entire point of the Golf. The point isn't just to be fun in a straight line, the fun comes from the fact that you can absolutely chuck it into a corner at full speed and not die. It is absolutely a joy to drive on back country road. Source: I own a 2024 Golf R and I live in the mountains.
@Maestrodamus
@Maestrodamus 5 месяцев назад
The slow motion of the Mustang off the line was incredible!
@mikewalters8253
@mikewalters8253 4 месяца назад
Speed isnt everything, still rather have the Golf r
@lightsout6552
@lightsout6552 5 месяцев назад
Doesn't the guy driving the Mercedes know how to brake boost?
@JVette01
@JVette01 5 месяцев назад
He clearly doesn't
@totov7673
@totov7673 3 месяца назад
Actualy he did great its a mercedes thats how it is, there not great in performance. They did great to bring another auto but still not a fair race. In fact in germany they buy audi volkswagen bmw porsche lambo. Alot of german avoid mercedes bc they know its not great in performance its actualy more for class and daily drive.
@miketdragon69
@miketdragon69 4 месяца назад
That is BS run since you ran the stick VW. DSG would have been the route to go.
@nm-qt2hb
@nm-qt2hb 5 месяцев назад
Mustang 💪
@DaleWilly
@DaleWilly 5 месяцев назад
VW is junk; not as bad as the koraen cars though
@mattigower1479
@mattigower1479 5 месяцев назад
Any car buyers looking for a new car probably wont line up a VW Golf, a Benz and a Mustang as a choice. These cars are targeted at different markets. Gotta luv the v8 though. There is no replacement for displacement, no substitute for cubic inches. Sadly, Mustang is the last v8 left in the market now, its all there is, and its days are almost certainly numbered, for now at least. Mustang is a much simpler car technically, service and repair costs will be much higher with the German cars, they are technically more complicated.
@07wrxtr1
@07wrxtr1 5 месяцев назад
Well - if parents stop sending their kids to activism camps - I mean - Public school - then we can go back to an economy that is based on reality - not “muh emotionz dude bruh” Fathers in homes and home school = will help save the world from the beta males that are working to destroy it
@scottmurray3490
@scottmurray3490 4 месяца назад
This is an apples to oranges comparo with nothing unsuspecting to offer. The point? Having owned a 2010 V-8 Camaro & Jeep SRT: both absolute beasts - I can say I love my 2024 Golf R manual (soon to be modified to Stage 1) much more. So very immersive an experience and with a short throw shifter & AWE exhaust upgrades- this will be more bang for the book than should be allowed. Oh & it's the best daily driver on the road...
@krane15
@krane15 19 дней назад
The price? Car for the dollar and that's it.
@MarkRenn
@MarkRenn 5 месяцев назад
This is why manuals are going away. Slowest shifts. Worst performance.
@hwirtwirt4500
@hwirtwirt4500 5 месяцев назад
Manuals are going away because most Gen-Z's can't drive them.
@JVette01
@JVette01 5 месяцев назад
Manuals are fun but 90% of people don't know how to race/shift properly in them.
@estajosue
@estajosue 23 часа назад
The guy driving the Golf R has for sure never been in a drag race before. Also never driven a manual before.
@joshuaenyart5570
@joshuaenyart5570 5 месяцев назад
I would be happy having any of these cars cuz they are all a bit of fun and also functional
@gavinausten1825
@gavinausten1825 5 месяцев назад
You need someone who knows how to launch a 4WD manual transmission car. That person you put in the golf is clueless. I am not one of these people who thinks they are a know it all. I have owned a manual 2012 Audi s3 for some years now and it takes allot of practice to get the launch right. DISLIKE!!
@stevehrocks
@stevehrocks 5 месяцев назад
The M240i XDrive would be the perfect competition. It’s a 2 door coupe.
@07wrxtr1
@07wrxtr1 5 месяцев назад
With a tune = deadly launch!!
@Joseph.11
@Joseph.11 5 месяцев назад
True...but the price is a difference
@twentieth_r
@twentieth_r 2 месяца назад
DQ350 Golf R would absolute annihilate that mustang. I'm eating manual GT350R's for breakfast with 800 bucks in it. :/
@g.donuts3551
@g.donuts3551 5 месяцев назад
DSG and simply a stage 1 tune on the Golf R and this would have actually been interesting.
@scottroberts5529
@scottroberts5529 5 месяцев назад
I believe unitronic has a stg1 tune for the R brings up the power figures up to 465hp just wth a simple tune
@njo9966
@njo9966 5 месяцев назад
How much would DSG and that tune cost? Silly statement.
@roboticvenom1935
@roboticvenom1935 5 месяцев назад
@@njo9966 $1000
@kevinrotge4774
@kevinrotge4774 5 месяцев назад
@@njo9966 APR DSG and engine tune would be about $1000 give or take $100.
@totov7673
@totov7673 3 месяца назад
🤣 even bone stock auto golf r would smoke the mustang 12.8@108 but this is mk 7.5
@deeduffjr
@deeduffjr 5 месяцев назад
Disappointing content from you guys using auto vs manual, especially when the auto is the one easy up on power. The Ford fanboys may enjoy this, but it's a waste of everyone else's time. Hopefully you can get your hands on either a DSG Golf R or a six speed Mustang for a redemption video.
@ridexdrive
@ridexdrive 5 месяцев назад
I understand sometimes you have to work with what you have, but as soon as you mentioned that the Golf was a manual, I knew you guys couldn't be serious about this video. Or maybe you were, which is even worse. If the point was to demonstrate the value of the Mustang in terms of performance, unfortunately, you missed the mark. First, the 0-60 time of just over 4 seconds that you mentioned for the Golf R applies when it is equipped with the DSG. The DSG only adds $800 to the MSRP but significantly enhances performance. Second, you quoted the Golf R as having 315 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque. Again, this would be correct if you were discussing the DSG version, which is not featured in this video. The 6-speed manual version has less torque than the DSG, at 280 lb-ft. There’s no reason to expect a 315 hp sport compact to be faster than a 480 hp sports car, but if you're going to base the entire video around a particular car, in this case, the Golf R, at least use the car whose stats you are quoting. To reiterate, the car you are discussing (Golf R DSG) and the car you have (Golf R 6-Speed) differ significantly in performance. Mustangs and pony cars in general have always offered great performance for the dollar. That's not newsworthy. However, trying to make a point and then choosing the worst example of a car that is already at a disadvantage doesn’t help your case. If the goal is to show how fast a car can be compared to similarly priced cars, the Mustang, as optioned in this video, is actually more expensive than the Golf. I'm not criticizing the inclusion of these cars in a video together, but at least make an effort to properly inform viewers about what's happening. Additionally, continuing to discuss how much faster the Mustang is, as if there isn’t a clear reason why the Golf R ran a 16-second quarter mile (maybe 15 in better condition), is hard to understand. Motorweek recorded a 12.5-second quarter mile at 111 mph in the Golf R. Car and Driver reported the same time as Motorweek, and Carwow reported a 12.3 second quarter. The Mustang in this video ran a 13.6-second quarter mile (assume a 12.6 in better conditions). Don’t skirt around the issue; address it directly. Otherwise, thanks for the time and effort put into these videos. I just wish there was a bit more purpose and understanding behind what is going on here.
@evital7527
@evital7527 5 месяцев назад
I don't even think they used launch control on the Mercedes.
@JVette01
@JVette01 5 месяцев назад
You couldn't have said this better. You saved me from writing the paragraph myself 😂
@JVette01
@JVette01 5 месяцев назад
@@evital7527 This is correct. The Mercedes should've beat the Mustang from a dig if they used launch control and actually started at the same time. The guy started late AND didn't use launch control..
@lffit
@lffit 5 месяцев назад
Mustang for me, but I don't live in the US, here in rural France, the back roads are narrow so it's the VW or a small Ford!
@Empok_Nor
@Empok_Nor 5 месяцев назад
Try comparing apples to apples guys.
@allantoole9017
@allantoole9017 5 месяцев назад
Rigged, they know of the Dsg, these are American muscle fan boys. I like both but this is an unfair fight. On the move, yeah 400+hp V8 all day
@MichelDominique
@MichelDominique 5 месяцев назад
Not exactly a fair fight but this in a way proves that there's no replacement for displacement in a straight line.
@tritchie6272
@tritchie6272 5 месяцев назад
My take, the Mustang for weekend fun,and the VW for the daily driver family car. The Mercedes while it has a Pretty interior, for some reason doesn't appeal to me enough to spend that much on.
@Zwikster
@Zwikster 5 месяцев назад
Less shots of the drivers face driving and more shots of the actual race
@landroverSV
@landroverSV 4 месяца назад
Still would take a VW over F ound O n R oad D ead Go on a twisty track and then see who takes who! VW MK4 R32 24V VR6!
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 5 месяцев назад
Mustang all day. Especially where I live which is close to sea level and never snows, rarely rains. Anyone who would pass on that Coyote V8 for a nicer interior isn't really a car person in my book.
@chriswannamaker7930
@chriswannamaker7930 4 месяца назад
How fast and how far you can put your foot to the floor doesn't make one car better than another. The golf would eat it on a track. The mustang is stone axe technology incomparison to the VW.
@aallien
@aallien 5 месяцев назад
Agh, no DSG on the Golf. I’d still have the Golf R (with DSG) with the APR stage 1 tune. Better fit and finish on the Golf.
@FB6K24Z7
@FB6K24Z7 5 месяцев назад
Lol better fit and finish on a VW 😂😂😂all i see is plastic Garbage 🗑️ inside the cabin even a damm honda civic has a better made and better looking interior nowadays then that golf 😂lol vw clowns these days
@robcost916
@robcost916 4 месяца назад
This is BS automatic will always be faster than a stick.
@dnice362
@dnice362 5 месяцев назад
Cmon auto vs auto
@joshc606
@joshc606 5 месяцев назад
You can provide the Auto for them???
@ridexdrive
@ridexdrive 5 месяцев назад
@@joshc606 If they don't have an Auto then the least they could do is not quote stats from the DSG Golf R to set the entire video up. Also maybe explaining to viewers the Sahara-sized gap in performance you get with the DSG vs. the 6-speed. It's neither informative nor genuine to go about it the way they did.
@wesd3742
@wesd3742 19 дней назад
Golf is what I bought. Manual as well. Love it. Who cares about 1/4 times anyway. These cars are all fun, just get out and drive 'em.
@nickmanhota324
@nickmanhota324 4 месяца назад
This channel sucks 140k view over 1 month lol, and a poor comparison on vehicles fml.
@sherylellingson3538
@sherylellingson3538 4 месяца назад
Not many realize how much of an advantage the 10-speed auto does for the mustang over the 6-speed manual. Yes purists will bash me that it's not as much fun as a stick, but if my goal is to go faster than my competition, then i want the fastest trans to get me there, period!!
@tbutz21
@tbutz21 4 месяца назад
DSG R is almost a full second faster on the quarter mile than the manual. You guys can do better.
@brettdiehl1965
@brettdiehl1965 5 дней назад
I own the Golf. I highly doubt the 'stang can keep up with its all wheel drive torque vectoring system when you get off a straight line and actually start turning like you would on a track or in the real world. Just tune the Golf to Stage 1 or Stage 2 so it also makes 400+ horsepower and it will be as good or better than a muscle car in pretty much any arena.
@cndctrdjful
@cndctrdjful 4 месяца назад
Id love to see this vs thw dsg golf r. My golf r (older) dsg ran 12.8 all day bone stock. Hot lapped. No tire pressure adjustment. Jsut ran 12.8s the manual version is more than a second slower in the 1/4
@totov7673
@totov7673 3 месяца назад
Agree my cousin had a mk 7.5 golf r dsg auto he did 12.8@108. Yes manual a second slower but only if your great at it. Would have smoked mustang by one second.
@porcelainthunder2213
@porcelainthunder2213 5 месяцев назад
The Mustang isn’t going to constantly break and ruin your finances.
@OriginalEvil
@OriginalEvil 5 месяцев назад
I'll save you 17:51 mins of you time..... Domestic beats import every day.
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 5 месяцев назад
I’m surprised the VW is only 350# lighter than the Mustang.
@4runner510
@4runner510 5 месяцев назад
The Mercedes is going to lose amazing amounts of value in the first 5 years and become an endless Money Pit thereafter
@hondacar
@hondacar 5 месяцев назад
An automatic Golf R might have still lost, but the outcome would likely have been tighter. As for a manual Mustang versus a DSG Golf R, it's hard to determine which would come out on top. Perhaps that match-up might be for another day.
@michelvermeulen61
@michelvermeulen61 4 месяца назад
The DSG GOLF R will destroy the Mustang GT hands down !!!
@dda827
@dda827 4 месяца назад
What a unfair comparison... do it again with the DSG... this is dumb
@Fastapproaching
@Fastapproaching 5 месяцев назад
A mustang is just like a jeep, it not your first vehicle its your play toy.
@08CspecGT
@08CspecGT 5 месяцев назад
$46k for Telsa Model 3 Performance. 0-60 2.9 1/4 mile 11.5 sec and usable back seats. Not too hard pressed to find a better performance car. This coming from a die hard Mustang fan.
@chadkent1241
@chadkent1241 5 месяцев назад
Coyote + TT = Supa quick. The current king of proven street legal cars is Brett Lasalas 6.26 @ 227mph oe cast Coyote Mustang. Boom
@ferongr
@ferongr 4 месяца назад
Who gives a shit a bout straight line performance? if it came down to that, my 2006 20VT shitbox with 10.000 in mods can do sub-10 second 1/4 miles.
@randallbrown8346
@randallbrown8346 5 месяцев назад
They kept on talking “usability”, what they should be comparing is “functionality”. Sure you can “use” a bucket to bail out your flooded boat, but a pump is far more functional.
@Matrix-tp8ou
@Matrix-tp8ou 5 месяцев назад
vw is way too overprice end of the day its an compact car with bias reviews
@i486DX66
@i486DX66 5 месяцев назад
That C43 with the 4 banger should not have an "AMG" badge. Mercedes has diluted the AMG name by putting it on everything. Can't even make it sound like an AMG anymore.
@wildbill6366
@wildbill6366 5 месяцев назад
The Golf R is no match for the Mustang GT.. The Golf got smoked..... Wow.
@hwirtwirt4500
@hwirtwirt4500 5 месяцев назад
It would have been much worse at sea level.
@sokratzmmf
@sokratzmmf 3 месяца назад
The Golf R isn’t just for straight line speed. Take the cars to a racetrack.
@i.d.6492
@i.d.6492 4 месяца назад
$46K for an awd 300hp chevy sonic is wild. Golf R is $38k at best
@citydavis
@citydavis 4 месяца назад
The auto DSG golf R is 1 second faster than the manual. This video is a bad comparison
@roymorgan5498
@roymorgan5498 5 месяцев назад
I'm born in Germany but I will go with the American Mustang. ❤
@geopioneergsxr5357
@geopioneergsxr5357 5 месяцев назад
That VW looks like some $6000 Facebook Marketplace disposable junk.
@UScarsarethebest
@UScarsarethebest 5 месяцев назад
Kit car, POS VW leaking oil all over the ground. German JUNK at it's best...
@jonathanhicks140
@jonathanhicks140 5 месяцев назад
But straight line drag races are completely irrelevant for daily driving conditions, whereas the ability to drive swiftly down a narrow winding road is something lots of people use all the time. So let’s see a race on this basis instead - we won’t even meter the fuel consumption.
@PlatinumNath
@PlatinumNath 5 месяцев назад
The Mustang is no more a muscle car nowadays. In terms of handling and cornering capability it's quite equivalent to something like a BMW M-car now apparently so that can't be scoffed at. The Golf R while also handle great isn't exactly the sportiest hatchback of the bunch in terms of handling, much less compared to a sports car. Remembering too that the AWD in the Golf R has bias to front wheels, making understeer an issue if you push it no matter how VW try to BS that they've eliminated understeer in FWD and AWD cars.
@joshc606
@joshc606 5 месяцев назад
All street racers would disagree, straight line races are %90 of racing in real life.
@robsolf
@robsolf 5 месяцев назад
The truism that Mustangs/muscle cars can't turn is long outdated. While it probably can't work tight lines as well as a dialed in hot hatch, its track performance is quite capable. Interestingly, it stopped being reality right around the time the manual v. auto performance truism did.
@jonathanhicks140
@jonathanhicks140 5 месяцев назад
@@PlatinumNath it may be equivalent in a drag race, the BMW will pull its pants down on windy road. I know someone who has had both, he enjoyed them both for different reasons (mainly for the fabulous V8 engine sound in the Mustang - which is epic!), but he said the M3 was far quicker & safer in real world conditions.
@PlatinumNath
@PlatinumNath 5 месяцев назад
@@jonathanhicks140 I didn't say they're equivalent in a straight line though, but cornering, as hard as that is to believe. The modern BMW M3 nowadays is a total powerhouse compared to the Ford Mustang GT and will no doubt demolish the Mustang in a straight line (counting higher performance versions too like M3 CS in both RWD and AWD versions vs Mustang PP, DH, or possible Shelby variants for this S650, if we're looking back to the S550's history. M3 just has the Mustang beat) while the Mustang now has to claw advantage through cornering prowess instead of straight line speed (but ability to sometimes doesn't translate to how fun it is to which is the Mustang's case here.) If going back to the point however, Golf R's advantage here is mostly only AWD, initial launch from standstill, interior quality and practicality compared to the Mustang.
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