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@@gustavbruunkjr5123 It's not sound frightening, It's frightening. And, I don't think, It's reasonable for me to engage with someone who thinks, Adolf Hitler is Innocent.
@@newsamplifier It is frigthening to you, it isn't frigthening to me. "Innonce" is not equal to "undeserving of suffering just for the sake of it" at all. That is a very important distinction to understand. I'm not sure if you're sincerly misunderstanding me or just want to use emotionally charged arguments but if you don't want a rational debate I won't attempt to force you :)
@@gustavbruunkjr5123 You're a very calm and collected person who's trying to think critically and rationally, with that being said a lot of humans do deserve suffering myself included because the difference between a shark and a human is our ability to know what's good and bad. what do you think?
Also they act so confident even though they haven't researched about religion like islam.i heard one atheist say " yeah science can be wrong but Islamic people don't admit about the same about theirs".first of all it's actually the opposite.they think science is all true and the reason we think science is not true because of its inherent problems and science not being able to give us moral values.we cant assume the same about islam but sadly these atheists who haven't even studied Islam say that it can't give us moral values just like science even though it's different and we don't know need to do research in order to find that.science can never give morality Because of it's inherent nature and we don't need to study a big amount of science to know that but the same can't be said about Islam .they need to study Islam because it's not like science inherent weakness for morality non explaination.islam doesn't have that and you do need to study Islam inorder to make a decision whether it's right or wrong.we don't need to do the same about science if we know that it's morality is not a thing.keep in mind iam only talking about morality here.
@@Xenor999 Science means "to know". It's all we have to know the truth.. so of course we'll say it's true. If something isn't true, it's replaced by better science. Do you not understand this?
@@TedTheAtheist. But how can we “know” anything and how can anything be “true” if there is no objective reality and if objective truth does not exist? The concept of science contradicts atheistic worldview
@@nosmokejazwinski6297 I really didn't follow that. Yes, we all live in the same reality. Science attempts to understand/know reality. Atheism is without belief in a deity, that's all. There's nothing else to it. Were you confused about that?
@@Asiyah2000 linguistically Islam means wholly and humbly submitting one’s will to The One True God, Allah. So Khair, shouldn’t be a problem to thank Islam, since it came perfectly from our Lord, السلام عليكم و رمة الله و بركاته 💙
@@Asiyah2000 Amal, bunayya. I don’t know what you’re arguing against and sending rolled eyes to. Have respect and fear Allah. I can tell from your response you’re a child, and we all have much to learn. “Islam is not a living thing”, nor is Allah a living thing Akhi. Allah has never defined Himself as living, nor should we. Allah is eternal and uniquely one. I don’t disagree with you, thanking Allah is paramount. Yet you reply to this brother to thank Allah but ignore his use of “Alhamdulillah” which literally means All Praise and thanks belong to Allah. I wish you the best my friend, and May Allah allow us to learn His religion with the best of manners and intention. Ameen
@@gustavbruunkjr5123but you haven't provided any solutions just arguments? What is the solution for all the crimes you see happening, if punishment isn't one?
@@ShafiqFaizal @Shafiq Faizal as I say in the video I DO think we should have a justice system with punishment. Just because people don't inehrently deserve to suffer punishment on the deepest level, doesn't mean that the punishment doesn't have benefits. First we ask ourselves what our goal is? One that I can generally agree with is: to promoto well-being and reduce suffering among people in society. How do we achieve this? Well a justice system (probably including punishment) would definitely have to be part of the task. It will disincentivize actions that counteract the goal of promoting well-being and reducing suffering. It can also repay wronged individuals. It can do many good things. Notice though, that inflicting suffering is never a good thing in itself my belief. Not even if the individual inflicted suffering on others. Punishment is only good as a means to achieve other good things or prevent bad things
@@gustavbruunkjr5123 hmm but tell me now out of all people in the world why you think yours is the most worthy? Are you like some Mythical being like Dragon, are you someone who is only one and your family are big Dragons whilst you are little dragoon? What makes your family so much more worthy then other people's families? I'mma just give like even more of a extreme example then what brother did in video. Hypothetically if I came to your house when your whole family is gathered around and you got you your brother, your sister, your father, your mother. Now I go in and take life of your mom and dad, I torture your brother till he dies of just like physical damage and then I rape your sister and then hang your sister by neck which leaves you with just you as your family, so should I be punished? By your thinking I shouldn't because I am not well in the head right? Am I a bad person? Should I be charged death penalty? Will your family come back to life?, so who am I at this point? Why should I be punished and why shouldn't I be punished?
@@gustavbruunkjr5123 Pain or suffering might not be pleasurable but it's necessary. Eg a niddle pierces the skin painfully to innoculate a drug to treat a disease. The issue here is, Many conflate "good" with "pleasure/ pleasing" & one who lacks objective morality cannot truely define what Good / bad is. Mankind won't appreciate or value bliss, painlessness without knowing pain or suffering & the opposite is equally true. If we don't experience some bliss in this life and only experience suffering, then we won't have hope or see the point of existing.
I'm the guy from the video. You shouldn't feel sorry for me haha Whose value should we listen to and rule according to? Well that is what we have democracy and reasoning for :) In general most of us have very similar values inherent in our biology, so the people who would value very contradicting things are quite rare if we are all being rational with the implications of our values
this person is not even close to being ready to have a discussion about religion. he thinks that heinous crimes shouldn't be punished because we are simply animals acting on our "nature", and he couldn't provide an effective alternative to deal with them. I don't care if you're a theist or an atheist - history has proven punishment always has been and always will be the best deterrent.
He didn't say that. You weren't listening. He's saying that because it's predetermined (according to his world view) then a person doesn't DESERVE punishment. But he was trying to say that people should STILL be punished, regardless of if they philosophically deserve it, to be an example for the people. As Muslims we should be just in our accusations. That guy seems cool, may Allah guide him
@@akramrabaa943 Before I start this, I am aware of you playing the devil's advocate. Anyway, his worldview is basically, 0 self accountability. If everything is predetermined , and to him it is, then no one deserves punishment. But according to him again, despite his philosophy, they should be punished anyway. So he's not really consistent on his beliefs. Moral judgments should be passed based on a certain belief system, if he has his own moral beliefs he really shouldn't believe in determinism. He has to chose 1 or neither. Because since he chose both, he basically admitted that he has 0 right to judge anyone.
"I can debate with 10 people who are knowledgeable but I will be defeated by the ignorant, because ignorant people will never understand the basic of knowledge" (Imam Shafi'i)
@@kakarote100 When I ask straightforward questions it is to expose a false assertion, gain more information, request clarity, or get at the truth of the matter. THAT is why you have disparaged my asking straightforward questions (and you fear answering them). Unlike you, I welcome questions and answer them DIRECTLY. I suggest you test me on this and find out.
I cannot believe the non-muslim said if someone raped and killed his family - the criminals should not be punished. What kind of a man will be ok with Zero punishment for criminals who rape and kill their own family. His ego is more important than family!!🤯😔
When he says a scripture of any religion for that matter, in this case the Quran which is the best book any human can read and its the Only True book of Revelation is boring paired with his Atheist mentality, then there is no point having a rational conversation with this sort of person. Lack of knowledge in spiritualism, high on his ego and absolutely no faith in a Creator. The sort of youngsters who worship Big Bang and human theories without thorough reasoning and logic.
One of the major problem with that mindset is when that person is put in a situation to commit a crime and they believe they can get away with it, they are more likely to commit it since they don’t believe in morality and don’t believe they’re intrinsically responsible.
Listening to that kid speak, all I can say there are very dark times coming, way worse than what we have now. They’re just zombies walking and cannot even understand realities anymore. Scary and sad…
@@gustavbruunkjr5123 Brother you are not understanding the depth of what this person is saying. If we Muslims can read all sorts of books including religious books why can't you just sit and read the Quran? You gave a very shallow answer, you see when I read the bible for example I would read all the pages anything I think isn't right I would resurch on it. What is stopping you? (no disrespect but it sounds like you have a shallow heart and mind) 🇧🇩🇬🇧🙏👍
It's not really well put definition. Because they who understand they will understand but those who doesn't they will not get what you're trying to say.
@@fragileomniscience7647 the point of being all knowing or completely omniscient is to know all possible trajectories that an individual can take while having the individual the ability to freely choose. God is never surprised by the fact that he'll know all possible paths, none is truer than the other
@@fragileomniscience7647 why do you limit God to knowing only one trajectory? The point of omniscience isn't to make parallels with human knowledge as that is impossible for us to know in such an all encompassing manner. God knows all the possible trajectories
@@fragileomniscience7647 no offense but you cannot have a conversation about God (something obviously metaphysical lol) and maintain hard empiricism. It's just pointless on your end
@@natasha23950I've tried it, and it is exhausting and depressing because you constantly think there's a possibility something is not true, including your decision which makes you doubtful, you are not sure of everything, including yourself, it makes no sense. Thankfully Allah is not abandoning me, I'm back on track, and now I don't have to worry too much because I'm sure Allah is most merciful most compassionate
@@championszone5796Visit the mosque or Islamic center, and tell them you’re interested in becoming Muslim and learning more about Islam. They will give you a Quran and help you inshallah (god willing). May Allah guide you.
@@mojo5795 I don't about "limited" free will, it can only be one of the two, either limited or free. And Allah gave us free will. You are absolutely free to do what you want and believe in what you want or not believe in anything at all. But when you die and meet Allah you'll either be rewarded for obeying his commands and believing in him, or be punished for doing the opposite.
So, you aren't focusing on the topic at all. Or learning nothing. You're switching back to your default 'basic knowledge' mode. I hope I am not sounding anti-Hadith (Astaghfirullah!). Can you at least be contextual?
Masha'allah, Muhammed Ali is good with his dawah and I like how he does not waste his time with certain people who are willingly blind to the truth. He is direct and to the point while at the same time being polite.
Ya Ilahi! I use to admire Western liberal and rational open views on people, society and the world, but 'they' honestly do not know what they are talking about. It really IS ridiculous. It is not even science or rationality any more. Just talking in true nothingness. SubhanAllah. Thank you brother, TabarakAllah, may Allah SWT reward you. You have been gifted with intelligence!
I appreciate that he is honest. I think the Muslim brother should have pushed to change the Atheists believe a little softer. It’s very rare to meet an honest atheist.
@@user-ye8nf6tj2f TRUST JESUS CHRIST TO SAVE YOU musliam so don’t enter heaven cause they trust them selfs to save them self’s. TRUST JESUS CHRIST TO SAVE YOU PLEASE
Nice one Brother Ali. It is really curious, when the experience of reality has been true since the beginning, wouldn't it be more logical for us to trust them rather than doubt them. Such a simple concept.
masha Allah.. I don't know how to say it...but Alhamdulillah I found your channel.. your logic and your argument enlighten me...I enjoyed watch your discussion...you have something that I don't have ...it is your attitude...so calm...so peaceful...tabarakallahu
بارك الله فيكم... اللهم اغفر لوالدينا و ارحمهما و اجمعنا معهما في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين.. اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم.. رب إني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين... لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين..... ............. .....
Always interesting conversations. One of my favorite platforms!!! I just feel distracted by the fact that the MA & The questioner seem to be facing away from each other or as if talking to someone else. If the editor could kindly put MOHAMMED ALI on the right & the questioner on the left, it would solve this problem. Thankyou. & keep up the great work MA!!! You are sooo patient & grounded MashaAllah!!!
If someone said to you "Don't walk there because there is a bomb" Will you say why is he depriving of my freedom? This is how Islam is, it seems that it's depriving you of a lot of things but it's all for your interest. Sorry for my bad English :)
Those atheist, they don't think a robber deserve to be punished, so it's even horrible to think what society they will build with that mindset. wastage.
Didn't know Atheism takes it values from Abnormal Psychological illnesses. Especially with OCD and schizophrenia. The doubts and the uncertainty of everything including one's own self. Although these illnesses are soo much more but still I never expected a person to do this to himself willingly. May Allah have mercy on them. Ameen
Why are people so obessed with free will ? We humans just work with our limited knowledge and choices ! We can’t fly nor can we stay underwater for more than 3-4 mins ! It’s simple ! Allah gave us a test and we must pass it
Alhamdulillah, truly Allah has guided us all, how lost would we be if we did not have Islam. Ya Rabb, this man said people shouldn’t be punished for rape. Ridiculous.
What on earth did the atheist guy just say...?!?! People considering atheism should watch this! ALHAMDULILLAH FOR ISLAM, may Allah continue to guide us. Ameen
*Predestination and Freewill* are very important topics in all religions. Yet, none talks about or resolves the knot like Islam/Quran. Predestination in Arabic is called Qadar. In a technical sense, qadar means, "something of which there was a prior knowledge. Al-Qadr is a belief that everything comes from Allah and is known by Allah. Allah's knowledge is limitless. The Quran says: 3:5 "Truly, nothing is hidden from Allah in the earth or in the heavens". 6:59 “And with Him are the keys of the unseen, that noone knows but He. He knows whatever there is in the land and in the sea; not a leaf falls, but He knows it. There is not a grain in the darkness of the earth nor anything fresh or dry, but is written in a Clear Record”. Islam teaches two things. Everything is written, all that is going to happen has already been written. We have a freewill. *Is this a contradiction?* No. Here is why. God created a book/record called Lahul Mahfud. In it are everything that will happen or that has already happened. So far understandable and not answering the contradiction, right? *In it are also every possible scenario that could have happen or would have happened if you have taken different path.* So it is not one path but multiple paths. On top of that, God knows for all the possible paths and which one you will take and die on it. What matters in Islam is what actions you die on it. God give us options to take any possible path given to us, right, left, correct, wrong. Each action we take have consequences and possible paths they will lead to. Gods knows everything, we don’t. God knows the actions and fate of each person. However, Muslims are not fatalists. We cannot throw in the towel and insist that our actions mean nothing, since "after all" everything is already pre-determined. We have a responsibility to always try our best and make sound choices. There is an expression/Hadith that says along the lines like "Tie our camels first then Trust on God" - meaning that we can't just let our camel roam about, thinking that "if it were meant to be," it would stay nearby and not get lost or stolen. This expression is based on an incident in which the Prophet Muhammad met a Bedouin man who let his camel roam free because he "puts his trust in Allah." The Prophet advised him to tie his camel, and then trust Allah. We have a responsibility to be thoughtful and make good decisions, using the intellect and common sense that Allah has created us with. At the same time, when something befalls us that we don't want, or that we don't understand. we recognize as Muslims that there is a Higher Power involved and our knowledge of the situation is limited. This belief gives us hope, and helps us to be patient and patient during hard times. We cannot get angry that things happen the way they do, since we've tried our best, and in the end it is qadri'Allah, Allah's destiny for us. To become angry or impatient with what happens in life, is to become angry or impatient with God - since nothing occurs unless it is Allah's will that it be so. May Allah protect our hearts from such weakness. 73:19 Lo! This is a Reminder. Let him who will, then, choose a way unto his Lord. 25:57 Say: I ask of you no reward for this, save that whoso will may choose a way unto his Lord. 80:11-12 Nay, but verily it is an Admonishment, So let whosoever will pay heed to it, 29:69 As for those who strive in Us, We surely guide them to Our paths, and lo! Allah is with the good. God is clearly telling us that we need to struggle hard in order to find the path to God. Allah will only guide those who actually struggle to be guided. If God has already predetermined who would go to hell and heaven without giving us free will then it would be useless for Allah to tell us to strive to be good. So God guides those who strive and put an effort to want to be guided. 39:7 If ye are thankless, yet Allah is Independent of you, though He is not pleased with thanklessness for His bondmen; and if ye are thankful He is pleased therewith for you. No laden soul will bear another's load. Then unto your Lord is your return; and He will tell you what ye used to do. Lo! He knoweth what is in the breasts (of men). 10:45 And on the day when He shall gather them together, (when it will seem) as though they had tarried but an hour of the day, recognising one another, those will verily have perished who denied the meeting with Allah and were not guided. 16:33-34 Await they aught say that the angels should come unto them or thy Lord's command should come to pass ? Even so did those before them. Allah wronged them not, but they did wrong themselves, So that the evils of what they did smote them, and that which they used to mock surrounded them. Surah 41:46 Whoso doeth right it is for his soul, and whoso doeth wrong it is against it. And thy Lord is not at all a tyrant to His slaves. Again we see that Allah is not to be held responsible, but the sinners are for their own sinful actions that they willingly chose to commit. So Who Are The People That Are Misguided? 2:26 Lo! Allah disdaineth not to coin the similitude even of a gnat. Those who believe know that it is the truth from their Lord; but those who disbelieve say: What doth Allah wish (to teach) by such a similitude ? He misleadeth many thereby, and He guideth many thereby; and He misleadeth thereby only miscreants; 22:4 Against him it is written down that whoever takes him (the devil) for a friend, he shall lead him astray and conduct him to the chastisement of the burning fire. 7:30 A party hath He led aright, while error hath just hold over (another) party, for lo! they choose the devils for protecting supporters instead of Allah and deem that they are rightly guided. *When God says: 7:178* *Whoever Allah guides is truly guided. And whoever He leaves to stray, they are the ˹true˺ losers.* This follows the same theme as the other verses. Think about God as the designer who set up the system you are part of. Let us use an Example. We humans are fond of examples and understand better with them. Let us take this world as Created game, Virtual Game, developed by smart entity. Like our VR, you plugged in, and you are given options of what you can do. Everything, pixel in the Game is created by the Entity. You can only do what is availed to you so it's predetermined. It is also optional/Free will as you can go and do this option and that option, etc. God said, 37:96 when it is God Who *created you and whatever you do?”* God written, created everything that exists, existed or will exist. That means God created all the paths, life, death, good and bad. For what? So we could be tested for all scenarios given to us and which ones we will choose. In Hadith, Prophet SAW talked about this, Predestination and Free will. For example, "Nothing increases one's lifespan except good deeds, and nothing repels Divine Decree except du'a. And verily, a person may be deprived for sustenance due to a sin that he does!"Narrated by Ibn Majah #90 and confirmed authentic by Shaykh Al-Albani in As-Sahihah #154 God wants us for good things. He asks us to stay away from everything bad for us. If one were to do as God mentioned, we will Automatically live happy and fulfilling life, which generally God willing should translate long lives, given conducting environment. Prophet, upon whom be peace, used to make the following du'a during the witr prayer: " ... Bless me in what You have given me. And avert and *turn away from me the evil that has been decreed for me,* for verily You Decree (all things), and none can decree against You ... "Reported by At-Tirmidhi #464, An-Nasa'i #1725 and others, with an authentic chain. To come back to the Example above, everything in the Hypothetical Game, above, has already been written, designed and coded. A Player though can be given an option to get to another level, path through the system for different cases. Taking them to another path does not negate that the Game is already written, designed, and coded. Through Dua, God can change the path you are on in this Existence to something that is already written for you, but you were not on before. We can this view in Quran from the story that happened between Prophet Musa and Khadr peace be upon them. This is my understanding. The ultimate knowledge, reality is with God. God knows best.
@@Theo_Skeptomai I dont know what kind of Evidence you want. Perhaps you are forgetting where you are and why you are here for. I think you are so called atheist. I am going to repeat some of the points I made above. Here is small thing to think about how Muslims see this world. Think of this world as a Virtual Reality with different obstacle levels. Each of us comes to this Reality with predefined scenarios we have to navigate from. We are given a tribal, race, family, relationships/façade, temporary façade that adds to the course that we are given. This is not limited to human associations. This is also true for wealth, health, and other things that affect our lives here. These might make our movement harder or easier. Either case, the harder the hand we are given and we succeed, the better we are positioned when it all ends. We don’t choose the hand we are given. Excellence is what is expected from us whatever the hand. We just don’t die and disappear neither do Children suffer for no reason. Suffering is the eye of the beholder. We and the kids have the same substance, we call it Soul. That is the REAL US. When the Test finish and we are out, we come out as the same. What we call children are just the same entities as us whose slotted time on this Reality got ended early. If you understand this, you understand this world. Nothing dies for real in this world. Yes, the avatar or character, bodies you are given to play dies but that thing that makes the character work does not. It exits the Virtual reality, existence, and wakes up to the reality it already knew and come from. Then the truth will start to dawn on us. Every one of us will remember why they were in this reality upon exit. You might ask, why we don't remember. Because it defeats the reason we are here for. We are here for a purpose. As we start this game called World and we get transplanted in the middle of a small baby growing inside of a mother, we start fresh and assume total plug-in to this reality. This means temporarily forgetting everything outside of this existence for testing purpose. Brain and the data it contains are created in this existence. Everything about this reality is already programmed, designed to the pixel level, using a term we know. All the options and choices we are availed to us in the reality are also known and configured by God for us. What is expected of us is to use the rules set for this reality and excel. These rules are created by God to help us achieve our goal, to get the best possible outcome when our time is reached while living the best possible life no matter our social-economic status. Of course, Virtual reality is one thing, the life we are in is another. One the Creator is us, the other, its Creator is the Originator of all that is, was, or will be, the Mighty Supreme Being. Unlike virtual reality, we feel everything because we are supposed to feel as it is, to be like the Real deal for us. Why? So that the good comes out from the bad. The power-hungry narcists come out from the beautiful Soul. God does not punish unjustly, our actions do. Our actions decide what happens to us once we wake up from this reality and realize what we have done. If you are wondering why you are even here since you did not choose this? *This might shock you, you choose to be in it. If you are already in this world, there is nobody to blame for that except you.* Quran:33:72 * Indeed, We offered the trust [The acceptance of obligations and obedience to God] to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they ˹all˺ declined to bear it, being fearful of it. But humanity assumed it, ˹for˺ they are truly wrongful ˹to themselves˺ and ignorant ˹of the consequences˺, One might say, why God forces us to worship him. Well, God does not force anyone anything. This is the whole reason we are here for. We are given an option to accept or reject, Free Will. God’s commands are for the benefit of us. He does not order except Good and does not prohibit except the bad. Quran:7:28 And when they commit an immorality, they say, "We found our fathers doing it, and God has ordered us to do it." Say, *"Indeed, God does not order immorality. Do you say about God that which you do not know?"* He is the maker of this Universe and he set the laws for how one can obtain the maximum benefit from it. Imagine the instruction manual of an Airplane. For example, praying, doing charity, helping the poor, fasting, etc. All help us have re-orient ourselves back to our purpose. We are not here to make mansions that we will leave tomorrow if these will make us forget why we are here for. We are here to be the best humans we can be, helping others, taking care of the animals and environment, etc. What happens when we stop connecting to our Creator and be mindful of why we come here for? We forget ourselves. We forget why we come here for. We become like animals, without purpose with the majority of us thinking we are here to make more money, own more houses, more bling, etc. It is simple cause and effect. We ignore to follow God’s instruction manual for this reality, in time God will have no role in our calculations and this will cause us to forget the purpose we come here for. Quran 59:20 *And be not like those who forgot God, so He made them forget themselves. Those are the defiantly disobedient.* You want something in return for going through this Reality. What is that thing? Well, we don’t know the magnitude of it but imagine the power and capability of the originator of all that is, was, or will be. That thing is one of the if not the best Reward that Supreme Being gives for those who excel.
.. Gems from Quran _ [Summary of life]_ *57:20** Know that this worldly life is no more than **_PLAY, AMUSEMENT, LUXURY, mutual boasting, and competition in wealth and children._** This is like rain that causes plants to grow, to the delight of the planters. But later the plants dry up and you see them wither, then they are reduced to chaff. And in the Hereafter there will be either severe punishment or forgiveness and pleasure of God, whereas the life of this world is no more than the delusion of enjoyment.* _[What is in it for us]_ *57:21** Race [i.e., compete] toward forgiveness from your Lord and a Garden whose width is like the width of the heavens and earth, prepared for those who believed in Allah and His messengers. That is the bounty of Allah which He gives to whom He wills, and God is the possessor of great bounty.* _[Every possible scenario is covered and written.]_ 57:22 No calamity ˹or blessing˺ occurs on earth or in yourselves without being ˹written˺ in a Record before We bring it into being. This is certainly easy for God. *57:23** We let you know this˺ so that you neither grieve over what you have missed nor boast over what He has granted you. For God does not like whoever is arrogant, boastful* _Atheism = Ride out till it ends and see what happens._ *Islam = Prepare for Journey that you have already embarked on from the day you come into this world inside a baby.* A journey that will continue after you leave the body. It is a journey you have chosen on your own which will have only 2 outcomes, success or failure. *Islam is the Cheat Sheet on how to live this Reality no matter what hand you are given and come out with all aces.* *Forgot to mention, if you are still thinking about proving God here in this reality. Think of Super Mario proving the programmer who created the game he is in. This will never happen. We are absolutely limited by the reality we are in.*
i see brother ali so straight and direct to gustav----it's like playing total attacking football with ball posession more than 60 percent ---one of the shooting is, "you don't read do you, your generation don't read..." hahaha
Its kind of sad, he seemed a little confused, "you believe your own experiences?" "You are choosing to believe even though you could be wrong." I guess with determinism you dont get choices, in which case they should understand that there is no choice for us to believe in the truth. Every point contradicts the last. May Allah guide all these misguided people and help them realize the self contradictory postions they put themselves in.
•'Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: "We were attending a funeral at Baqī‘ aI-Gharqad (Muslim cemetery in Madīnah). The Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) came to us and sat down, and we sat down around him. He had a small stick in his hand. He lowered his head and started scraping the ground with the stick, then said: "There is none among you, except that his seat in Paradise or in Hell is decreed." They said: "O Messenger of Allah, should we depend on what has been decreed for us?" The Prophet (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Exert the effort, for everyone will find it easy to do such deeds that will lead him to what he was created for..." Then he mentioned the rest of the Hadīth. [Hadith: Al-Bukhari and Muslim] •The Companions (may Allah be pleased with him) were attending the funeral of one of them in the cemetery of the people of Madīnah. The Prophet (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) sat among them with a stick in his hand. He lowered his head towards the ground, as if he was thinking deeply and greatly concerned about something. He started to scratch the ground with the stick, then said that Allah, the Almighty, has decreed the fates of people and determined their seats in Paradise and Hell. When the Companions heard that, they said: If the fate of those who will be wretched and those who will be prosperous, those who will be in Paradise and those who will be in Hell, has already been predetermined and decreed, why should we not give up doing good deeds; for exerting effort is useless, given the fact that everything is decreed and predestined? The Prophet (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) answered that they should work hard and not rely upon the good and evil which Allah has predestined. Instead, they have to do what they are commanded to do, and refrain from what they are forbidden from doing. Indeed, Paradise and Hell are attained by people's deeds; those who do the deeds of the people of Paradise shall enter Paradise, and those who do the deeds of the people of Hell shall enter Hell. Everyone will find it easy to do such deeds that lead him to what he was created for, be it good or evil. Therefore, whoever is decreed to be among the prosperous, Allah will lead him to do the deeds of the prosperous, and whoever is decreed to be among the wretched, Allah will lead him to do the deeds of the wretched.
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Unguided is literally without guides. When you choose a criteria/category to discuss their atheistic beliefs they find out there’s no logic behind, no certainty, it’s all unproven, based on some theory. They can’t fathom that Islam has proofs and base for belief. When M.A suggests a criteria to test out an atheist theory they’ve never heard of it or haven’t tested it, questioned it.
Most atheists believe they’re highly intelligent, because they believe that believing in a higher power is “low IQ”. They use science to back them, and it’s worked for them until Muslims came forward to challenge them. It’s over for atheists, we’ve figured them out.
@@scottholder4431 Thunder and anything else that happens, happens because of Allah! Alhamdulillah! Scott I'm curious to see why do you have organs within your body that work independently without any input from you yourself? And how you could believe that your organs have a purpose, and you yourself has no purpose. Subhana'Allah, everyone would agree that a car serves a great purpose to mankind, but the car also possesses parts which are like organs which serves a purpose and works independently of the car itself. By seeing this alone, I know if my organs serve a purpose for me, that I have a even greater purpose, to the one who created the system within my body which serves the purpose of keeping me functional. The fact that the heart can be replaced with another heart, or any organ can be swapped, shows the intelligence and wisdom that goes into our creation. You don't choose whatever goes on outside of your body, or what goes on inside your body, you can only choose between right and wrong! No one chooses hardships, and no matter what efforts a person puts in to prevent difficulties in ones lives, they still arise! Subhana'Allah... There are people who strove their whole lives to become successful in a certain field in life, and would have been the best candidate for this role, but never got close. And you have people who just started in this field who quite frankly suck at this role, who've spent the past couple months attempting to become successful and they become successful. What do both of these people have in common? The coice, but the outcome is completely up to Allah Azzawajal! Allah'u Akbar! Quran 41:53 We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness?
@@scottholder4431 Let's say I buy a car from Tim, i don't know nothing about cars all I know is that Tim created the car. Now a year later i've learned how the car works and how it was made in detail, is Tim then still the creator of that car or did he just disappear after i learned how cars worked?
I play this game diamond dash and thought I had free will. But ultimately realise the algorithm already anticipate my future actions and decide the outcomes via processes so much faster than I could fathom. Then I realise, this is how free will and predestination work.
oh thank you brother for stressing this phrase====yes, what we can do is praying and do our best, hope our will is God will too----if it is so, we thank and praise Allah, if it is not so, we thank Allah and all of the praise belong to Him only---He knows everything and we know nothing. and there is His promise too, anybody who asks and pray to Him, will be answered.
@@noviabdi2095 You're welcome, I think human rationality (like all human senses) has its limit, the whole free will determinism thing is a prime example.
Hi, I'm the guy the video. By my understanding of free-will I see it as inherently illogical and I believe that not even an all-powerful god can have free will. How do you define free will? :)
@@gustavbruunkjr5123 Hey. إِنَّمَا أَمْرُهُ إِذَا أَرَادَ شَيْئًا أَنْ يَقُولَ لَهُ كُنْ فَيَكُونُ Qur'an 36:82 When He wills a thing, His Command is, "be", and it is! I'd say the best definition of free will, is the definition used by the One who possess it since we really can't comprehend it.
Brother, I seriously like the way you convey your point in the rigth tone and everything, you are maybe my favorite person cuz of your knowledge and how you respond to difficult questions so easily but just 1 thing: recently (ONLY recently) you have been cutting the other person off too frequently and your points are too long without letting the other person speak more than 4-5 words, no offense but please if you could reduce that, it would be better to see what comeback or argument they have against your point too.
