MXR Carbon Copy Bright & Original Carbon Copy. What Do We Think?

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In this episode, Daniel and Mick get a first impression of the new-for-2015 MXR Carbon Copy Bright (the light green one).
The original MXR Carbon Copy (the dark green one) was introduced in 2008, and is much loved by fans of darker sounding, BBD (bucket brigade device) analogue delay pedals for their warm tone and crunchy, degrading repeats.
However, some players find the original Carbon Copy a little too dark sounding for their tastes, or at least would like an alternative that's a little brighter sounding. You know what's coming next: Carbon Copy Bright!
So, Daniel and Mick are comparing the 'original' and Bright models before throwing in an Electro Harmonix Memory Man and the analogue delay sound in the Strymon TimeLine for good measure - two ends of the delay technology spectrum!
The guitars are Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster and a Collings 290 DC S. Amps today are a Lazy J 20 and a Mallard 18-watt Marshall clone, mixed.
As ever, all switching is handled effortless and silently by TheGigRig G2.
Thanks to Westside Distribution for sending us the Carbon Copies to try, and for more on TheGigRig, head to www.thegigrig.com

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Комментарии : 173

@BasementShopGuy 8 лет назад

Man, I gotta say, I enjoy this show SO much. To me, it's a real "show". I've learned so much from you too guys. Your chemistry is terrific and it's a most enjoyable show. I can't watch this all day long. Thanks guys - don't ever stop!

@fiftypeehead 7 лет назад

I've spent a bloody fortune buying and selling pedals looking for the sound I hear in my head. After all that, all I actually needed was a good overdrive and a carbon copy. Wish I'd known

@RonnyBGoode 4 года назад

So which overdrive you have?

@jordandangelo180 4 года назад

Hey man same here! And the funny thing was I really knew it all along but I was going for what was popular and bought all of the Strymon’s ( I did keep the Mobius because you can’t deny how gorgeous every sound is and it covers all your modulation needs and then some ) but other than the Mobius I sold almost every pedal I owned. I bought a Carbon Copy, a Duellist, King Tone Germanium Fuzz and a Dunlop Q Zone because I’m a huge cocked or “ parked “ Wah fan even more so than regular back and forth wah wah’ing and I couldn’t be happier! The only pedals I didn’t sell are the Analogman King of Tone, the SolidGoldFx Commuication Breakdown ( double Tone Bender Mk 1.5 and Mk II ) an MXR Sugar Drive, Vertex Ultra Phonix and HRM as well as their Boost and a J Rockett the Dude because I love the Dumble tone.

@mattgilbert7347 4 года назад

@@jordandangelo180 Very similar to my "journey" Their should be a band by that name...hmmm.

@ladzvideos 9 лет назад

Great video, guys! If you power up the Carbon Copy with a 12v adapter (it's safe, search it), the repeats will get clearer/brighter and the modulation more spacial. If anyone is thinking of selling the original and buying the new one, try this before! Have a nice weekend, cheers!

@samrotschild 6 лет назад

Gin Tonic Have you tried yourself? I’m about to do it

@cwir88 5 лет назад

@@samrotschild carbon copy takes up to 18v. It is totally safe.

@ShaunDGames 8 лет назад

I think I've binge watched almost every episode since I discovered you guys randomly when looking up overdrive pedal comparisons. Really great stuff, very informative and entertaining!

@StratTones 9 лет назад

Just love you guys! Wonderful, full example demos and couldn't ask for two better, experienced players👍

@michaelmortimer3784 9 лет назад

Great Vid Guys. Been playing for 40yrs and I always feel like a kid in a candy store when watching guitar shop talk. I use several guitar set ups from modeling to stop box. The digital realm is often necessary but I love the old school stuff by far.

@GK-mm3nz 9 лет назад

Thanks guys, great show as always. Keep em coming!

@TimothyPage06 9 лет назад

Great video, as always! You're such a fantastic wealth of knowledge Daniel. This video also expresses why I've kept the Carbon Copy on my board even after owning (and selling) a bunch of expensive delay pedals. I love the way it creates a warm wash behind what I'm playing, and I adore the artifacts that occur at higher delay values. No idea it was designed by George Tripps either, thats a really cool piece of trivia!

@mattchurchill 3 года назад

I never reallasid how great the Carbon Copy could sound until I watched this vid. Dan's playing at the end was beautiful 👌

@baron_orm 9 лет назад

So glad I wasn't listen on headphones at the end! Another awesome show, please keep these up!

@Wooodygun 9 лет назад

Beautiful playing at the end!!!

@Toezly 9 лет назад

i really appreciate every video you guys make, thank you so much

@GazMoz78 9 лет назад

Immense!!!! Great demo in every way. My personal favourite was the original Carbon Copy, not too keen on bright repeats myself, although the self oscillating on the memory man was soooo sweet. Great video, can't wait for the next one :-)

@chrisjacksonmakesstuff 9 лет назад

To be honest, they all sounded great! Out of the 2 MXR's I think I prefer the original, just because the darker repeats seem to get out of the way more.

@sidest3818 9 лет назад

Love the Carbon Copy, one of my best buys. Beautiful. Also, bring back the Hamstead! I spot it in the background...

@MartinCliffe 9 лет назад

Great video guys. This is why I have one of each (and a Timeline)!

@ryanpaulretouch 9 лет назад

Would love to see you guys run through the cheap, Chinese Tone City pedals, especially the tape machine. Thanks for brightening up my Friday!

@FatSoundStudio 9 лет назад

The real winner here for me is that P-90.

@healykieran 9 лет назад

awesome as always boys!

@johnmarquez333 9 лет назад

I'd seen Daniel's GigRig videos and I was familiar with Mick's great demos for Guitarist, but I only recently discovered these videos with the two of them and I think they're great. Very informative, lots of tasteful playing, and good for a few laughs too. Fantastic!

@GabrielCastellarTV 8 лет назад

Love this video. Learned so much. However the only delay that I have ever really liked has been the carbon copy. It's the only pedal I never realized replaced on my board for the last 4 years.

@MrStraty13 9 лет назад

Truly the best thing in the world to follow your sonic experiments ! Excellent idea to compare these pedals! keep up the good work (even though somebody forgot to switch off the mod button on the carbon copy bright at some point ...) Here is a new idea: comparing hig end patch cables and cheap ones to see what they really make to the sound...

@laiikkaaaa458 9 лет назад

The MXR carbon copy can also run safely on 12v and 18v making the repeats brighter. Don't need to buy a brand new pedal.

@laiikkaaaa458 9 лет назад

***** I emailed Dunlop tech support when I got the pedal about it. They confirmed it. You can do the same. It's a little known secret

@rhettcutshaver3741 7 лет назад

+1. Sounds really good at 18v.

@mymama12314 5 лет назад

you're a hackerman (many thanks for educating me)

@mattgilbert7347 4 года назад

So...the Bright would be even brighter at 12-18v? Cool.

@davidbates4157 3 года назад

Wow man, thanks for this!

@Neverlast2010 9 лет назад

Another great vid. To be honest, I prefer the original MXR to all of the others for that particular delay sound. Would be great if you could do a detailed look at the QuartermasterQMX and how it can be used in the real world of semi-pro pub/club gigs etc :-)

@steelykiss 8 лет назад

Hi Guys, Greetings from Berklee College of Music! I just want to humbly point out that the Malekko Ekko 616 probably deserves the title of Modern Classic as far as analog delays are concerned and pre-dates the MXR Carbon Copy by a few years. I feel that MXR made a "carbon copy" of the Malekko to keep up with the boutique market. The Malekko falls right in between the two MXR's regarding brightness, has true pitch vibrato on board, and features a smaller footprint. Most pros here in Boston use the Strymon products but the die-hard analog guys use the Malekko. Keep up the great work! I'm addicted to "That Pedal Show".

@yotuveization 9 лет назад

Great video!👍

@benmoore7946 9 лет назад

I wish you had done a dark amp vs bright amp comparison. While I preferred the original Carbon Copy here, I am thinking the bright model might be better suited to a different amp setup, say with a more pronounced scoop. I thought your last video showing how dirt pedals react differently into different amps was amazing, and I had hoped it became a regular feature of the show

@devildaz87 8 лет назад

Learned alot from these but as a guitarist and bassist love to see more Bassists talking about how to use effects and how it can change your sound.

@garyjford1981 7 лет назад

That dive bomb technique towards the end!

@domenicoscialo3396 9 лет назад

Love the show! Can you do a Strymon Timeline episode? Why is it so amazing?

@JohnPriceJNPMusic 9 лет назад

What I like is that you can get the MXR out of the timeline but you can't get the timeline out of the MXR. Great video and I feel more confident in my timeline now after watching this. I would prefer the new CCB over the original. I also had the original and didn't like it for the dark repeats.

@speakvisual 8 лет назад

Jorge Tripps was also involved with the DL4 and the design for its smaller brother, the Echo Park, which has the same exact Analog sound as the MXR CC but also gives you control over the modulation amount, plus straight a great Tape Echo emulation and crisp Digital Delay options. Check it out.

@andrewlukins4810 9 лет назад

Could you guys demo some real tape delay units? Like the echoplex, watkins copicat, fulltone tape echo? I have a watkins copicat myself and want to know wether its worth restoring so i could use it instead of my tc flashback. Keep the videos coming, have learned a lot from you guys!

@denisnetto_2024 8 лет назад

Guys, this is really awesome! By the way, my favourite is the old Carbon Copy! Cheers!

@robbinwolfe9553 7 лет назад

So, that memory man self-oscillation? WOW!

@TheLonetone483 9 лет назад

Hey Daniel and Mick you guys need to try a Diamond Memory Lane Jr. Such a musical digital delay made to sound like an analog unit. the modulation on it is one of the best. I own a timeline and an El Capistan and I have bumped them both off my bad at the moment because the MLjr. just has a little something I can't quite put my finger on but it sounds fantastic. I would love to hear what you guys think of it if you ever play one. Great job on all the videos, I never miss them. Keep them coming. Cheers

@firdausHITMAN 7 лет назад

which is that angled style marshall cab in the background? is it a 2x12? Great review btw. Daniel has a great touch.

@murahachibu 8 лет назад

Would love to see you guys to a show with the Strymon Mobius versus some of the original effects it models.

@seanmichaeljennings9275 8 лет назад

keep doing your thing boys

@HJP202 9 лет назад

that self oscillation bit though... I can never get tired of doing that with my Carbon Copy :L

@DunsfoldDave 8 лет назад

That Collins guitar is brilliant. I'm gonna get me one of those. My main guitar in the 70's was an SG junior and I've regretted selling it ever since.

@TheGigRigDaniel 8 лет назад

+DunsfoldDave I've got a 61 LP junior, astonishing guitar :)

@jasonpetty881 2 года назад

thinking of upgrading my delay pedal and holy buckets (no pun intended) the old studio🖤

@burninglcd 6 лет назад

I started crying at the rocket noises. Haven't laughed that hard in weeks.

@Ramen4Days 7 лет назад

I did not know there were "that pedal show" shows that were not on your official youtube channel....oh man. I have a lot of catching up to do

@45H16E 7 лет назад

What happens if you put an EQ after the delay, can you then brighten it up that way if you want or does that add noise and or other undesired effects?

@DomSchu 9 лет назад

Memory Man really is the essential analog delay sound.

@powdermnky007 6 лет назад

memory man xo

@coldwar1977 5 лет назад

not so if you're into dark gritty repeats

@Leo_Fender 8 лет назад

@Daniel TheGigRig hey Daniel, I know you make the absolute highest end loop switchers and triggers, etc.. But have you considered getting into pedals?? I imagine you and mick could come up with some incredible designs. Keep up the good work, love your channel!

@KevWind1 7 лет назад

Because I looking at an MXR Loved the review the only flaw I noticed was that for the last 1/2 of the review when you brought in the Memory Man and the Time Line you had the modulation switched off on the original Carbon Copy and on the Brite

@nsiepmann 9 лет назад

Never realised how big a difference there is in the self-oscillation freakout sound between the different pedals. Infinite GAS now, goddammit.

@AlexandredeSanti 8 лет назад

I own the original Carbon Copy and found that sometimes the repeats are too present in the mix and that can be annoying at some situations (as it happens with all delays, I presume). But maybe that can get worse with the brighter unit. I imagine that the brighter repeats can get too much in the way. The bright one is probably great for the playing solo at home, but in a band I would go with the original all the way.

@MrUltraworld 9 лет назад

The OG CC is still my favorite.

@geoff1121 8 лет назад

1 vote for original carbon copy

@palodine1 5 лет назад

Me too!

@coldwar1977 5 лет назад

definitely!! nicer color too :)

@urilacambrafrias 8 лет назад

Hey man! I've just bought an MXR CC Bright, in part due to this video! Excelent as always. Daniel, can you answer me please about a question? Can self-oscilation damage my amps/speaker? It's a '79 JMP 2204 through a Marshall 1960 (greatest amp I've ever tried, BTW). THanks!

@mattsnyder4754 8 лет назад

I'm not entirely sure, but I would tend to think not. Worst case scenario is that it'll overload the amp and make the tubes distort. I don't think it'd be much different than if you REAAALLLLYYYY pushed the front end of the amp with a boost or something. Again. I'm not sure. It may be different.

@rigorhead01 9 лет назад

Do a video using the Mesa Lonestar you have sitting back there, please!

@AmmoniteII 9 лет назад

Daniel TheGigRig hey Daniel have you had a chance to see the new xvive analog delay, its designed by Howard Davis of DMM fame - I'm not sure if its actually released yet but there is a vid from Musicmesse 2014 however as with all things messe or namm based its noisy as hell and hard to hear. also check out the Sonuus Voluum if you have not i have a timeline mobius and various other gizmos but its hands down my favourite pedal. Keep up the good work , really enjoying the show

@douglaslegnola2266 6 лет назад

Look at this classic old timey version of That Pedal Show....it Vintage!!!

@dostacos1 8 лет назад

I love my bright for cleans, but original for overdrive. Ergo, I run two. It's worth it.

@peteredie9108 5 лет назад

I really think the normal version was much cleaner. Since it was a bit darker it kind of gently fades away but with the brighter version there was a artificial "weo weo weo weo" noise along with each repte

@coldwar1977 5 лет назад

yep, I can hear that too

@Mario1234mario3s 8 лет назад

Interesting!

@nikosfragosofficial 9 лет назад

Very best !

@JasonVanzant 8 лет назад

Dead on about the more pronounced midrange in the Carbon Copy vs. Memory Man. Thanks, guys!

@TheGigRigDaniel 8 лет назад

+Jason Vanzant cheers Jason ;)

@dasbear10 8 лет назад

I have the Sub Decay Echobox version 1 would love see it in one of your reviews

@rikh78 9 лет назад

i presume the El Grungo was before the delays in the signal path ? Great video as ever, i've used a Carbon Copy since they came out, nothing gets close for me

@TheGigRigDaniel 9 лет назад

Moltisanti Indeed it was - Analogman King Of Tone. We're not saying you can't put drive after delay in the signal path, but we much prefer it before. Thanks for watching!

@Kriskovify 8 лет назад

I know why they say the original copy is dark. The pedal casing IS kinda very dark greenish-blackish color. But these are digital kids out there. Kids, they want brighter colors! I mean, have you ever seen the kindy classroom walls painted in greenish black? So, that's why the bright carbon copy comes in bright green! Hahahahahaha. Kidding guys. I wanted the Bright CC but they sent me the original. It's okay. I kinda like it.

@betalingsringen 8 лет назад

You guys should do a comparison of the original Way Huge Aqua Puss, Echo Puss and Supa Puss! I'd love to hear your thoughts on the different pedals, and i'm sure i'm not the only one! Like this comment if you'd like to see the comparison!

@paulmandes4810 8 лет назад

I'm wondering if the "modulation" he's talking about is the same as "wow" as in wow and flutter on a tape machine?

@Megamando93 8 лет назад

+Paul Mandes Yes, that exactly what theyre talking about. No pedal really has copied that amazing sound though, a couple have come close though.

@carlostorres1171 9 лет назад

I see that Kilt, Daniel!

@dostacos1 8 лет назад

I don't mean to make you guys do an endorsement or anything, but what do you think of your Lava cables? Do you feel like they're reliable? I've been too skeptical to drop the money on them. Great demo, love my Carbon Copy, hope to get the Bright soon and run them together. But I do love the decay on the original?

@mattsnyder4754 8 лет назад

Most all of the guys out there who build custom pedal boards use them. They're quickly becoming the standard

@GK-mm3nz 9 лет назад

I've got a new drinking game for watching That Pedal Show on a Friday night. Every time one of the guys says "interesting" you have to skull, and every time they play porn music you have to finish your drink. Anyone got any others?

@TheGigRigDaniel 9 лет назад

Hahaha! Fantastic!

@betalingsringen 8 лет назад

+Daniel TheGigRig I'd actually say that it's an interesting approach to a drinking game.

@Smudgie 8 лет назад

+Benjamin Klein Whenever the dude on the left holds a guitar correctly you get to nominate.

@777Yoni 8 лет назад

How about finishing a drink each time Dan leans back and closes his eyes in the throes of aural sex?

@gusdupree9076 7 лет назад

aural sex? have i been doing it wrong this whole time?dratz

@alexmurphy5289 3 года назад

Really impressed with the carbon copy bright here…held up against the memory man xo pretty well. Obviously the memory man is better but it’s 24V and huge so there’s a trade off

@PhilHeesen 9 лет назад

I am becoming obsessed with analog delay. Uh oh...

@manifestgtr 7 лет назад

Aside from doing the dotted/16th note trick, why exactly would you want a sharp, pointed delay sound? Isn't the point of a delay pedal usually to sit just underneath your original sound and add space? At least that's what i've always looked for in a delay. Even slap backs seem to work best when the delayed signal is at least a little darker. I don't know, maybe that's just what my ears have become accustomed to over the years.

@YngtchieMusic 7 лет назад

I'm the same way. I had a little Guyatone delay that was great as an effect, because it has a nice, pronounced sound. But I don't want to necessarly HEAR the delay as much as FEEL it. I wanna kinda forget it's there, and instead let it become part of my overall sound. Kinda like when you're using compression for an overall fuller sound. To me, a great delay is one that you'll notice the minute you turn it off, because you lose so much space. So when I first tried the Carbon Copy, I was so happy. This was the sound I had been looking for, because it sounded so natural and discrete. Love it, it's the pedal that I don't wanna part with.

@stuartbegley2085 7 лет назад

What's the led on the bright near the top left, the modulation ?

@brianrodman1033 7 лет назад

Stuart Begley yes when you push the button down to activate the modulation the led turns on. It's rather bright, I ended up covering it with something to dull it a bit.

@rigorhead01 9 лет назад

Great video! I'm very interested in Walrus Audio's Bellwether. Check it out and let us know what you think. It's an analog delay with some great features like a tone control, modulation rate and depth controls, etc.

@PaperAnimals 9 лет назад

Run the original Carbon Copy at 12v! It sounds brighter, and the modulation is more pronounced, but it doesen't lose the analog goodness!

@lundsweden 3 года назад

I like the dark sound of the MXR Carbon Copy, if I felt the need for clean repeats (Edge style) I would use digital delay. I don't understand the appeal of the Electro Hamonix Memory Man, as it sound too clean to me (and very expensive). I guess the cleaner pedals are a halfway between grimy analog and digital. I guess I'm fortunate to have cheap tastes in both wine and delay pedals!

@bradleystroup1457 8 лет назад

I dig the memory man over the carbon copies and prefer the dark to the bright. the memory man seems tighter than the timeline but both are great. the timeline however is soooo versatile

@dinoarellano 8 лет назад

Dive bomb! ... Dang left high and dry....

@burningknuckles 8 лет назад

I like the carbon copy but now I am thinking of going for a memory man.

@Robstafarian 8 лет назад

+Daniel TheGigRig Great, now I have GAS for a Way Huge Supa-Puss. How about a show comparing all of Jeorge Tripps's delay pedals?

@TheGigRigDaniel 8 лет назад

+Robstafarian great idea :)

@dannyjonze 9 лет назад

always wondered what goes on in that memory man. probly the same as my roger mayer fuzzface. just make it smaller.

@cdcgb1 9 лет назад

I wish MXR would do a carbon copy with an eternal jack out for a tap tempo and an extra switch for subdivision tap delays... I think we'd all be happy to pay an extra £50 for that sort of functionality...

@albertorivera7937 9 лет назад

Search RU-vid for Carbon Copy mod. You'll find what you are looking for.

@nelsonw2096 5 лет назад

What if instead of terms like "dark" and "bright" we used "organic" and "shrill"? It seems to me the argument has been framed with the terminology used. I like the "dark" and "organic" sound best but there is room for a "bright" and "shrill" sound in my mind for certain things too...

@mikekashaev 8 лет назад

"A lot of guys buy them just for those effects" - and I am one of them =)

@brianrodman1033 7 лет назад

mikekashaev - I vividly remember the first time I discovered that. A friend had let me borrow a distortion and a delay pedal. Awesome fun, still love doing it.

@TELEthruVOXx 9 лет назад

Thumbs up

@timg3830 9 лет назад

I have to say, for analog delays, i prefer the MXR Carbon Copy Bright. Although the Strymon has many options, its too much for me. I'd rather have the Strymon BigSky over the Timeline. But regardless, for this shootout, the new Bright Carbon Copy wins for me.

@moonn4108 8 лет назад

i hate how he hold the guitar downwards , great show btw

@guitarheart94 8 лет назад

the normal CC is the way to go IMO. Digital Delays are bright and if you want your Delays to be the forefront of sound you need a digital. But the bucket brigade is warm enough it almost just thickens your tone just enough. interesting pedal though!

@guitarheart94 8 лет назад

correction: the original bucket brigade delay as in original carbon copy

@davidjameschamberlain 9 лет назад

I prefer the original one. the bright one is cool too, though the original is perfection in my opinion

@coldacre 8 лет назад

geez guys couldn't you have given the blend/mix knob a decent nudge? the repeats are so quiet.... the first repeat is about 20% of the volume of the original note. turn the sucker up!

@DSilvergun 7 лет назад

The Bright version should have added two dials to control modulation.

@andreamarrado 8 лет назад

Daniel, do you train Bjj brother?

@TheGigRigDaniel 8 лет назад

+andre falcao absolutely, 3 years now :)

@andreamarrado 8 лет назад

+Daniel TheGigRig heck yea brother, almost 9 years now! Really wanna see you guys play walrus audio pedas!

@TheGigRigDaniel 8 лет назад

+andre falcao will get some on the show for you. OSS!

@andreamarrado 8 лет назад

+Daniel TheGigRig oss, please send me(andre.omena@gmail.com) your contact info, so I can hook you up with our artist relations guy. (:

@grantdyble3472 3 года назад

I miss Dan's funky trousers.

@jerryyeaaah15 3 года назад

I miss all these big shows :(

@Kriskovify 8 лет назад

Ooops, sorry about my granma mistake. That's what happens when you get tipsy with Dan and Franks' tipsy tips and can't get enough of it. Did someone just mention drinking game?

@ericportillo8277 4 года назад

I want burgundy pants!

@TomPark1986 9 лет назад

They should make an analog delay with a tone knob.

@SohamBhattacharya3105 8 лет назад

+Jon Merlin It may be horrible for what you're using it for but it's been wildly successful for a reason.

@jacobporter9732 8 лет назад

+Tom F Park now Walrus Audio - Bellweather Analog Delay has a tone knob.

@lesshowerrings 8 лет назад

Way huge echo puss is made by jeorge tripps just like the carbon copy but with additional controls such as a tone control

@fairweatherfriends. 4 года назад

I was thinking the mxr was holding it’s on against the memory man... up until 13:55. The MXR is so lacking when compared back to back that strat guy can’t even finish playing the riff.

@MintStiles 4 года назад

The bright CC had the chorus/modulation set on at the end so it sounded overly saturated. The CC original has alot more mids. I have the CC and original MMD, but I really don't end to pull out the MMD because of the size. I can serial 2 CC deluxe for the space a single MMD takes up. There is also a practical concern. Strymon is definitely good enough, but there is no magic on the sound. I wouldn't call it sterile, but it is a bit processed and "too perfect".