My 2014 Toyota Rav4 EV IS DEAD 

Thank you. Its a great car. Quite reliable actually. But its when it does break is the problem.

​@@JamesKlafehnhow much to repair

If you save money for the maintenance and replacement, 8K is about 160$ per month over 4 years. I think it is worth.

It's worth asking QC Charge in Vista, CA for another opinion. They are very knowledgeable

@ hell no

That sucks Jeff. Yeah, same boat it sounds like. How old is your 12v battery? A bad battery definitely creates issues with these cars. The contactors inside the battery pack are also something that causes this issue. That is my problem. Its a great car but the support is HORRIBLE. Thankfully I have needed almost nothing all these years. Have you watched my Rav4 review videos?

Thank you so much for watching! I am hoping for a positive outcome. Cant be worse than Tesla's treatment of my family. T-Rex is awesome. I am so glad I built them. Dont forget to hit that thumbs up for me. :)

Thank you! Fingers crossed. I hope to know something today.

That’s one of the reasons I leased. I think the residual price is extremely reasonable. I plan on buying the car at the end. Leasing makes my payments cheaper now and I don’t pay New York State sales tax on the car until I actually buy it. I ran the numbers and I’m only losing about $400 versus a purchase but the benefits far outweigh the cons in my opinion. I got a great price

​@@JamesKlafehn A quick Google search tells me that in New York they collect the

@@JamesKlafehn I think you got the tax part wrong. In fact, I know you did. In NY, we pay the sales tax on purchases or leases. On a lease, the sales tax is on the amount of the lease.

@@afcgeo882 Maybe what I said was confusing. I only pay tax on the monthly payments, NOT the entire purchase price. I dont pay the sales tax on the residual until I actually buy the car.. It was a win win.

@@JamesKlafehn Yes, but considering that the total price ends up being higher (if you purchase it at the end of lease) and that the sales tax rate is still about 8% you end up paying MORE in taxes, not less.

Im sorry you have had issues. I hope you are done having problems. Yes you can reset it but after some driving it will revert back. It thinks its smart and its estimating your actual available range. But i always found that it was low. 1) Fully charge vehicle using "Extended" with the J1772 port (not CHAdeMO) 2) Battery must be at room temperature. When you charge the RAV4 EV to 100% full on extended charge, it will be warm. If you park in an enclosed garage with outside temps in the 50F-60F, the battery will likely still be warm enough in 4-8 hours. 3) MAKE SURE THE CAR IS OFF !!! 4) Disconnect all 3 of the 12 volt battery negative cables, and leave it that way overnight. This will require removal of the M8 wing nut for JdeMO equipped vehicles, or a 12mm socket to remove the M8 hex nut. The cabin climate control will automatically go to OFF with battery disconnect. ***** Next day: ****** 5) Reconnect 12 volt battery 6) Hold foot on brake and press START button with key fob nearby just once 7) Energy "fuel" gauge will show Full (16 illuminated segments) and "LO" on the GOM 8) Wait for navigation unit to complete its start up (about 20 seconds) 9) Press START with brake pedal depressed a second time. You will hear a clunk of the main battery contactors under the front passenger seat and the dash should indicate "READY". The cabin climate control must be off. If it was not off, there is some issue prior to this step. 10) The displayed range is "RATED RANGE" at 3.5 miles per kWh 11) Divide this Rated Range by 146 to get usable battery capacity compared to new. Example: 142 rated range / 146 = 97.2% battery capacity from new

@@JamesKlafehn Thanks for the tip!!

Commenting so i remember this

That sucks. Thankfully only one of mine had had to be replaced. The car has 2 battery pumps and 1 cabin heater pump

Exactly.

@@JamesKlafehn In my 2007 rav 4 2.0 AT, looks like yours, but the gasoline one. My mechanic just changed the idle sensor and cleaned some sensors and intake parts for 120$ total in half a day. When the problem started, the car was fully driveable, it just had unusual vibrations. Usually if tesla breaks, it becomes a big expensive brick.

【Godz】 yup. Did you watch my model x videos?

Any Tesla parts in the 2021 Prime?

Freddie the Fly no

Its a great car! My wife is really bummed. She misses it. I really like it too. Dont buy one without a warranty. Even buying one outside of CA is risky.

There is no reason to be on the fence about a Prime. Its a phenomenal car.

I got 87,000 miles out of it. Not good. Shouldve lasted longer.

Tesla is the problem. Tesla doesnt release their software so you cant do anything to the car. In order to replace most parts you need Teslas software to program the part to the car. Otherwise it wont work. Luckily problems rarely happen with EVs Teslas though.... Stay away from Tesla until they improve their quality and service.

There is for other cars. If you have a leaf, bolt EV or i3 you can literally order parts and get service from the dealership fine. The problem with the rav4 ev is that it has a propulsion system built by another company that doesn’t want to help repair the existing cars. As such now repairs are time consuming and expensive.

@@Mcivstx yup. Tesla has great tech... When it works.

James Klafehn a few year back I was really hoping Toyota would acquire Tesla. Just imagine Toyota industrial might and dealership network behind Tesla software and engineering. Now that would be a sight to behold.

I ran it again and its the contactor error.

@@JamesKlafehn You can let me know number of tesla alert code(s) of yors RAV4EV?

@@altechpage Its at Toyota. No idea when Ill get it back. Its the battery contactors. They were still working but that was the error code. Still waiting to see what they are going to do about it.

@@JamesKlafehn Is their version (bad contactors) just an assumption or a diagnostic result (analysis of the data stream, reading the current codes, etc.)? What are they thinking about? Change faulty contactors or change completely HV battery assembly?

@@altechpage Toyota hasnt told me anything yet. They cleared the code and it came back. But before It went into them I ran the CAN data and it was the contactors.

The warranty is a factory toyota warranty and they wont honor it. I talked to a lawyer but it would cost tens of thousands to sue toyota.

Much too small for me.

lol, you could just buy a normal gas version for super cheap. Like $6k

John Reff It’d cost a crazy amount to retrofit and you really can’t do it. It’s more of a hack job.

John, it's make no sense.

ruhoer eoijre no it wouldn’t

No idea. Its good until suddenly its not. I wish you the best. Its a great car! I loved mine!!!!! But unfortunately it is a throw away car because you wont get parts and service.

Just run and enjoy it till well it doesn't.

Its not just a car. Its a piece of history. Its an amazing vehicle.

@@JamesKlafehn I buy my cars expecting them to last 15 years at least. And be supported by the company. Oddly, that dead EV is more like a one off exotic car that whose company died years ago. I think you'll have better longevity and support with the Prime.

Too small for me. What’s the range on those? 70ish?

@@JamesKlafehn Spark range is 82 miles which is not that good, if you want full EV crossover might aswell wait for nissan ariya or vw id.4 those two has 300+ miles range

You should be. It is a throw away car unfortunately. If it breaks you cannot get parts and no one will work on it.

@@JamesKlafehn Rich rebuilds put a garage here about 2 hours from me in Florida. Electrified garage. I think they would maybe work on it.

@@wadafruit Im friends with Rich. They cant do much to these. No one has the software to integrate with it and when some of the parts fail you need to program them to the car. Even dealers dont do it. Then you have to actually find the part. Toyota wont sell you parts. Believe me, I LOVE this car. I have had 6 of them. I have helped friends buy them. They have all failed.... I wouldnt buy it. I am so glad this is gone.

Thanks brother for the tip. I guess I'll have to cancel. Saved 11k.

@@wadafruit Thanks for watching! I think you made a good decision.

Watch my Tesla playlist. It was so much worse. Its Tesla's fault, not as much Toyota's ru-vid.com/group/PLuMPs5qUmnoRFg_zUfrbM5gDR1PYahXI8

Not sure where you are but if you are in the states and your credit score is decent with the rebates they’re giving out you could buy a brand new EV and not actually spend your own money for over two years

Yes I definitely would. But like I said, make sure you have a warranty. I wouldnt own one outside of the US.

James Klafehn Thanks, I sent you a PM on FB...let’s chat.

It depends what is your budget... Leaf, spark, Miev, smart, Fiat 500e this is what you can get under 10k. For like 10-15k you can buy a rav4ev, b250e, bolt. You always can extend range of ev with another additional pack with same voltage. Livehack: you can buy 13+ leaf with dead battery about 2-3k$ and 62 kWh battery for 7-8k and get it installed by independent EV shop(im doing such upgrades in Los Angeles, check ebay)

John Reff Thanks, I’m really interested in paying cash for the cheapest, most reliable option. A running salvage would be an option.

facebook.com/groups/rav4ev/

www.myrav4ev.com/forum/

No. It was too old for a buyback. They didnt help me in any way shape or form. I had to send the car to auction

I will not gonna provide them an screw. What a hell? Pay for warranty and supply my own parts? No way!

They wont.

hahaha luckily my wife doesnt read these comments. You SHUSH!

There are a lot of reasons to lease the car over buying it.

If you lease, the $7,500 tax credit goes to the leasing company. Does the leasing company pass anything on to you? Buying, then selling after 3 years sounds cheaper, since you get the tax credit for sure. Am I wrong on this? If so, could you explain it. I'm considering buying, but leasing is Ok too. I've leased many times and it always was a good deal but you have to put in the effort and negotiate price and money factor. My situation is that I can pay cash if I so choose, if that helps.

Gerald Moore that’s not necessarily true I have heard you get the credit even faster like if it’s a Toyota when you get the lease they apply the 7500 to what you’re doing and James is a smart guy I’m sure he’s got his reasons for leasing

@@John-209 Do you have anything to pass on? A link, perhaps? "I've heard" and "James is a smart guy" are both pretty vague. But you've got me curious.

@@geraldmoore6257 Yes, I get a 0% money factor on the lease. I did the math and it would save me about $4500 compared to a loan to purchase. The lease rate and amount I got on this car is awesome! I cant make use of a tax credit due to my deductions so purchasing it wouldve been a total waste. I wouldve got maybe a couple thousand of it. Its hard to say exactly without paying my CPA hundreds of dollars to look into it and give me an answer. I respect cash but youd be better off financing the car and investing your cash in TSLA