My 30+ Hours F2P Review | Zenless Zone Zero 

Wait? He's f2p? I didnt know he was the only mf who deserves praise in the ZZZ community.

Iirc he said before for ZZZ he will be completely f2p

Because its a running joke in his community about him being a whale at everything and he knows it

its always funny reading the ppl who don't get sarcasm answering

we will see how long that lasts lol

but bullet sponge training dummies, are not fun and the rewards in the game are lackluster at best.

​@zap7737 Exactly this. Reason why I quitted Honkai Impact 3rd. Pretty much just hp bloat everywhere, with enemies that don't do much. I endured it until Part2 started. Then dropped because of horrible story writing.

​@@mleong75pretty much sums up why there are not much players in Hi3rd & PGR, unlike their exploration open world games. It's just not a lot of people's cup of tea

​​@@ChrispyBrownies-fi4xhTried PGR, it's much better than HI3 imo. But played till only lv70. The bosses are actually a threat and you really have to git gud. Like even when you unlock CW, it doesn't mean you're invincible. Unlike HI3, where you essentially lock enemies in place indefinitely. Because every new valk has so many s and timestops.

if combat game has no challenge at all they can make this game as idle game with management

Yeah, more focused on doing a specific task or puzzle instead of several aimless moving around sections.

You gonna hate the tv when you got to hit level 34 there’s literally like a 30 sessions when you’re in the tv’s

Glad to hear this since I’m heading into chapter 2. I like how unique the TV is but it was getting in my nerves

@@brorochimaru3394 yeah I just hit level 34 it if it takes you a few days you might be able to skip that side quest but if you rush you’ll need to do that 30 side quest it’s definitely not the more fun but they have some good tv ones I can admit

@@VierzheTsuu I had a really good time in the Golden Town quest. It was a great demonstration of what you can do with the system.

Better for visual storytelling too. In Genshin/HSR, shit will happen and it'll cut to black and give you a text blurb explaining what happened. "PomPom crashed through the doorway into the room you're in, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, yap and then the structure caves in, leaving you blocked from progressing!" and then it fades out and there's rubble in your way now. In ZZZ, they can just show a big mfer on the TVs crashing through the map, destroying your path. No reading necessary, your brain + the SFX used fill in the blanks and now you understand what happened. I would take that >>>>>>>>>>>> Genshin/HSR's way of doing things any da.y.

True, I dont see a lot of ppl talk abt this. TVs r building blocks that they can mold into specific stages for specific story chapters. The story was abt loading bombs into a train? Make a TV stage abt that. The story was abt stealth? Sure, have one like that.

⁠​⁠@@T8-TRyep and they can finally show character killing mobs on screen while keeping their precious peg16 like the sniper girl from the Solder 11 quest.

Its designed to be that way. Not every game has to be an open world rpg.

⁠@@ihabnoname104well if you pay for a character, you’d expect to see them at least 30 percent of the time lmao

​@@ihabnoname104the point is wasn't about open world but you can use other gacha character walking around the block in the game instead of Wise and Belle only

Why is it have to be open world?? Look at grandblue fantasy relink, I walk around as narmaya ​@@ihabnoname104

​@@ihabnoname104I get you, but what he means is that he wants to move around as the gacha characters he pulls not the main character. Which is a very petty complaint of you asked me. Since you never even touch your main character in other gacha games

And the problem is that stats is purely a gear thing. and given how early we are to the game, it's expected that everyone is undergeared to tackle endgame. once everyone has the gear, it'd just be a walk in the park.

Exactly. This is what I'm saying always. The enemies still has the same mechanics even at higher levels and nothing changed except for higher hp

Literally what Hoyo were doing with Genshin but most ZZZ fans will never accept this harsh truth 😂

Yeah I’m sick of people saying “you clearly haven’t made it to end game it gets way harder” NO IT DOESNT. It’s the same game with just high hp enemies. They lock the end game rewards behind stats not skill. I’ll stick around to see where it goes but if it stays the same I’m gone yesterday.

Hoyo stans gonna be like "wait until reach endgame, it's challenging" Endgame: Just more stats and same atk pattern, no new mechanics, no new moveset

and the combat only takes a while if u dont level ur data disc...if u level ur atk data disc..everything is down in like 30 seconds

shiyu 7 just put ur breaker (i used anby)on one team and put ur 2 other units(i used anton/rina) on the other team and voila done

That's a lot of gacha games, to be quite honest. Finish the couple of hours story, get sent to the skill tree material or gear farm mines. Come back in 3 months to get drip fed a 2 hour story and repeat. At the end of the day though, it's about the core gameplay and ZZZ has boring enough combat to make a lot of people want to quit and im not even mentioning TVs hahaha

@@300y1 lots of gachas survive off of guilds/worldboss/guildboss/pvp

@@300y1 runnin out of content in a single player gacha is the worst.

dont forget theres gonna be more and more hp sponges like genshin

​@@ittehitteh9322If people complain about hp too much they'll just make the boss invulnerable for half the fight as they go underground or fly out if reach.

Me with no constellation or sig weapon on both genshin and hsr but still clear everything, honestly skill issues.

@@JimJimmy-hb9pc not even a skill issues your just a tryhard minmaxer and that's fine but it still doesn't takes skill to do

@@HazardTone yeah somehow what the game designed it to be right? like i don't think i could fight radhan in day 1 without leveling up. It's common sense but people still complaining womp womp

I think the difficulty is just matter of the game being 1.0. Remember genshin/hsr 1.0 abyss enemy? They are nothing compared to the most recent release patch. Remember when freeze meta and venti trivialize entire 1.0 of genshin? They become irrelevant as soon as 2.0 start. If you go fight the duo dancer boss that unlock at lvl 36, they barely give you any dps window when you break them.

​@@zzzuuuzzz6706Honestly, it's just the Hoyo formula. 1.0 is the easy period and devs Guage where they need to go. Why I don't care what endgame is here as it's too early and will change.

​@@zzzuuuzzz6706hsr has annoying boss mechanics that makes the game somewhat difficult i remember getting bodied by kafka boss cause of her dominate skill

@@shinigamiryan5837 4 years later, genshin endgame IS still dogshit easy though Thats the problem with hoyoverse, you cant have confidence in the future of their game thx to genshin existence

@@ganyumaindayone1112 Tbh I quit Genshin. Open world games just aren't my cup of tea and HI3 also exists, so Genshin is just the outlier in reality. ZZZ being closer to HI3 gameplay wise also means it has a lot more to gain that way.

Should of marketed that way if that was the point🤷‍♀️

@@treasure9342 mhoyo is the embodiment of false marketing expert. I remember how they marketed hsr in game show but they showed 0 gameplay with all pre rendered cutscenes. They tired to bait non gacha gamers to think hsr wasn't turnbase game. No hate though

@@prohanta9360 100 + 80 pulls NOWAYING Reddit post : Where's our 180 pulls? Replies : CLUELESS

​@@treasure9342because the rat devs want to take attention away from a current game that has actual good combat

​@@henriknguyen8978 Oh no! As if their goal was to make money by diverting attention from a popular game like WuWa to their own game! That's never happened in the history of business before! What a concept!

@@arthuryeh1112 damn. Bro gaslighted himself into liking an arduous game mechanic😭

Ooooh. What’s the videos name? I’m really into lore

@@NoU.07738 😂😂

​@@NoU.07738 Damn. Bro never heard of the concept of liking something more over time and resorted to Twitter buzzwords 😭

@@chomosuke0720 “And TV isn’t that bad after you get used to it” That’s the definition of fooling yourself. he endured it long enough to not be bothered by it. But sure, go off champ. Buzzwords or not, TV in ZZ0 is trash.

truly tailor made for you

Tv system is just unnecessary, if ppl don't like exploration and open world, the tv is just another form of exploration and eats more time than the combat itself. They should've just copied PGR or literally Honkai impact where u enter a stage and get dropped into battle immediately. That's like the perfect system for action based non-exploration gacha. Why did TV have to exist? Its so fking tedious to do it just to get into the combat.

People yapping about how bad the TV system is like the exploration in HSR isn't "walk down hallway, hear yapping from story, keep moving down hallway-- oh, now you turn right!" Like, it's the same shit, it's just that the TV is dressed up differently. What mfers should be bitching about isn't the TV system existing, it's how long the animations in the TV system are. That's what makes it seem slow and cumbersome, not the fact that it's just ZZZ's stylized way of doing the same navigation we have in plenty of other games.

​@@joaquinchua3348but how would you open chests? If Hoyo wanna implement chest collection in this game, how would they do that following an exploration mechanic? Maybe of the gameplay looked more like pokemon red/blue to copy retro esthetic, then it would capture higher appeal and less complaints, while still taking after a turn based dungeon crawler puzzle mechanic. Regardless, puzzles are gonna be added into the game and the TV system is a vehicle to do that.

so basically you hate playing games.

hence why so many paid actors for Mihoyo keep telling people that they need to play the game for hours before they can give an opinion on the game. Basically trying to trick you to fall into Mihoyo rabbit hole. These accounts are also easy to spot because their bare bone youtube accounts.

@@shonenhikada9254 I just wonder how much it cost to get all the big en cc's..

I believe it's just piper skill before parry of anby. no dodge here

HE IS, NO WAY

Wait, really? That means he's RELATABLE now?

Yeah iirc he said f2p for ZZZ in one of his previous video

Or course he's f2play, the dude spended like 10k last month on HSR+WuWa combine lol

Yh forced 2 pay

Pretty much. If not for Hoyo greed this could have been a regular singleplayer game and gameplay wouldnt be as restricted. Would end up having been a much better game for sure.

Gi and wuwa are completely different. Let's be real.

Personally, I think TV mode is way more fun and has greater potential than boring checklist “exploration”.

Why exactly does it need exploration? I genuinely want to know why everyone has this obsession with hunting chests and the like, to me the shits boring as hell cause it’s always the same idea ‘look at a map for chest location/run around for a bit hunting said chest, dodge/kill shit on the way, collect chest, repeat’ so it’s always baffles me that people think games like this NEED exploration to be fun.

@@connor2500 tbh i thinks it's just because they want to have something to extend their playtime beyond the story and quests (and maybe mindlessly spam basic attack and skill the air with their favourite character)

After playing genshin for 4 years and some of the recent single player open world games, I'm SICK of the exploration. This is a freaking chore.

You weirdos in the loony side of the WuWa fanbase love doing this weird shit.. Get laid or something man.. Your comment is the definition of "rent free"

Yeah especially these content creator that get paid by hoyo and not actually know what other game feels like, so they just shit on wuwa since they don't know any other game to compare to (and trying to compare it to other hoyo game wouldn't be good for their image in front of mihoyo either, hell and I bet they didn't even play HI3rd at all) It's infuriating how these CC can be absolutely honest and shit on other games, but when it comes to any hoyo game they just became so "tame" in their comments and hold back alot The worst part? The community like it and give them views. Sure it's not fair to assume everyone has play PGR or HI3rd, it's like saying "you can't judge any rpg if you never play Final fantasy" or "You don't know the standard of mmo if you never play Ragnarok", and in hindsight seems like hoyo did a good move here, by intentionally release ZZZ in 2024, which make the game technically don't have competitor since HI3rd release on 2016 and PGR in 2021, that's long enough gap where newer player may never even play those two games You know what? Screw that, now that I think about it, it's shock me how no one compare zzz to Aether gazer, even though that game is only 1 year but it's rarely being put to discussion, but then again Aether gazer vs ZZZ just will make zzz looks so much better. Seems like hoyoverse has a very good insight of what time a game should be released, where every other big companies focus on making open world (due to hoyoverse making the market itself) now there are nothing newer to compare zzz with. Or maybe this just show how good PGR actually is, since there is little you can go against PGR (maybe if you just don't like the "ping" system, which in that case hell ZZZ is pretty much your only option..... What about HI3rd? Don't, as someone that huge Honkai fans, HI3rd is a nightmare for new player due to the amount of "shop currencies" and game mode in that game)

Wuwa fans spent the last month trashing everyone else and the last week trashing ZZZ and now wants to play victim

@@grammysworld5449Says the toxic genshit clown coping hard af.

@@grammysworld5449Ironic coming from a genshit dog who can't get wuwa out of his mind.

bro no one is forcing you to play a game...

@@ctrl.s3565 I play the game on my own. And nobody is forcing me too and me giving an opinion is valid. But what these zzz stans keep saying is oh you didn't played enough. Oooh you haven't even reached IK 30 yet. Oohh rally commission and Shiyu defense is hard. Well I grind to reach it and give valid arguments against those people.

​@@ctrl.s3565no one is forcing me to play, i play my own rights. I purposely push myself to IK 30++ to give a valid arguments to zzz stans who keep saying that the combat will feel different in the end game. But sadly it does not.

I think this is just classic "hoyo filter". All hoyo game at its core is story game. They want their audience to invest in story cause those audiences usually stay longer with the game. It kinda the same reason why genshin/hsr don't have skip button. ZZZ does have skip button for some part of story but you still have to go through tv, which is another story medium. Granted, the marketing is misleading on their side, which lead many to play the game that is not catering for them and hate the game for that reason.

@@zzzuuuzzz6706 Story in the game isn't even that good. It's all just hype eyecandy for kids.

Deadass ong bro like frfr 💀💀💀 skibidi

there were very early hints about this when mobs are unusually tanky even at early stages

Honestly that doesn't sound fun lol same gameplay you've been doing from the beginning but now it everything just has higher damage and hp why does mihoyo always do this when it comes to difficulty they never care if the difficulty is actually fun just as long as it's "hard".

@@terrormansakata9626 the 'fun' part is at the button mashing part but they had to end our fun with bloated hp. it actually turns boring at that point

Yes, let’s blame players for expecting an action combat game to have action combat as its main focus when the game was and is still advertised as an action combat heavy focused game. This is on MHY and their false marketing.

This is a disaster level cope man. Coping at its finest, fuck the tv.

@@TacticalDimples it's always been marketed as a slice of life action rpg.

@@LargeBanana It's exactly what I thought it would be. So I'm pretty happy.

Ppl disliking tv system aren't the targeted audience. it's nothing new in hoyo games, always players out there thinking they are the targeted audience and got upset.

nekomata’s story is honestly peak

There’s nothing wrong if you’re having fun as long as you don’t gaslight people into thinking it’s more than it is

There is nothing wrong with not liking it as long as you don't get angry at people enjoying it.

Story complaints are the most bizzare of them all. It feels like a lot of people just want to hate on Nekomata for "being cringe" and completely disregard everything else in chapter 1.

Eh, the story itself is okay like a 7/10. Though it is easily the best opener acts across all hoyo games (which isn't saying a lot mind you, the rest have been a mid 6/10). Obvious spoiler warning but yeah so far it's been pretty bog standard, predictable (imo), and bit repetitive. Prelude is just a mcguffin chase. CH 1 is a pretty standard heist stuff with the "the guys that i thought was bad turns out to be good" obvious trope. CH 2 has a bit of prelude with chasing the construction machine with a repeat of CH 1 trope. Biggest problem is that there are no stake or imminent threat for the main character (twins). It's not like the ethreals posed that much of a threat since everyone seems to handle it fine to a certain extent. They lost their main paethon account sure but again we as a player don't know what it really meant to the world, and the twins brushing it off, saying "unlucky" before moving on to rebuilding their account once again doesn't help the impact. Sure we have that weird future projection and stuff but it seems it is going to be a while before we get to touch on that point. The characters themselves are great tho. A lot of personality here

I also like the simple combat, i just don't realize each character has different combo moveset and i can change to previous character by pressing other button than space. They really not explain it in tutorial -,-. I hope 1.1 will be better, and 1.2 wuwa too. Cause i slightly lost interest playing wuwa in this Jinshi patch

People were freaking out about HSR to but on a WAY smaller scale and look how that game turned out lol. It'l be fine, and hey the difficulty for me at lvl 37 and the final 2 floors of shiyu is starting to ramp up pretty fast.

literally same, I've always been a fan of cyberpunk edgerunners / the game and ZZZ has some of the style and design.

People who say wuwa requires skills are not serious lmao

@@JingLiu-nk7ie i mean if you play ww,you will know hologram needs skill,the rest are just dps check

Only TVs I have a problem with are the ones in hollow zone zero since you're meant to farm those repeatedly. I was expecting them to change the layout or something instead of it being the same every time. I honestly feel like avoiding the 7777 zone going forward 😑

>There's a severe lack of premium currency tho So the standard for a Hoyo game. Also, they haven't put any event yet so we will have to wait a bit longer for some freemogems

Yea, usually you will expect tons of free gems to farm for a new game new account. But to have severe lack of gems to farm for a new account is just ridiculous, as if they will go bankruptcy if you get limited characters without spending money. The company is the very definition STINGYNESS despite being a multi billion dollar company. All they think about is milking the players to the extreme level

Quit now, the game is becoming a bullet sponge in latter game, its hard to upgrade level to 34 (chapter 3) without s rank

It would be great if they add more move sets / mechanism for the bosses, e.g. in hollow zero, every difficulty it introduce a new move set.

w0w wish i could reach IKL 37, btw IKL 30 by now and will be doing Story 2; the TV stuff just grown into me since this is the first time i am having a game mechanic like this to explore the story. The early levels is taxing but as you progress it is decent as i experience in the game

Does the enemy at higher levels attack more aggressively, or its just stats increase?

@@hungry_l he mentioned this at the very first line "at floor 10 rn and i basically get 2 tapped by the bosses. If i swap out to late then both the current unit and the one i switched to get fucking stomped"

I'm gonna miss this era of getting two shotted because once you get characters fully built and are at the max level, I don't know if I'll have that same feeling anymore.

@@captaincalamari2519 I've heard there's actually 17 stages in Shinyu Defence. and Pokke was struggling at stage 9 last night. Lets believe we will get our cheeks clapped by new modes later on just like they did in HSR

Hey, just a question, why rate the game out of 8 instead of 10 or 5?

Bro really rated something on a scale of 1-8

6.5 out of 8 Lol

just y wait till u get to 34, they're cooking hard with chap 3 lmfao

do you mean 6.5 to 8 out of ten?? or its really is 6.5 out of 8?? lol

Like what? I'm genuinely curious

@@ymw1107 bro whales on games he actually likes

​@@ittehitteh9322he didn't whale in genshin tho😂 it was he's chat, he never spent his own money

@@Adan.2005 🤣thats the thing with hoyo games. theres always these mysterious sponsors. happens in his HSR gameplay too

it's the same for me as well. every gacha i do like and see myself sticking around a long time i spend money on them day 1. If I played for hours on day 1 and not feeling it, i will either quit entirely or play it f2p.

Same here lost the 50/50 got Rina. I am now saving my pulls for Miyabi.

How is this possible pls? I'm only lvl 32 as f2p. There are some agent quests I have left, but besides that idk how you got so far 😅

@@kay.e9014 use up ur fuels, get on everyday for dailies, do everything that gives you a smidge of exp

It took so much work to get to 34 just to do two missions and get told to grind to 36

@@TheGoldenLeek This

HSR Luofu strikes again!

I felt that but with WuWa, it took me a week to get outta that level gate to finish Ch 1 since all the side quests kept putting me to sleep. Only quest I liked was the poison fog quest, the flying beast fight reminded me of FF16’s Aeon fight with the Phoenix but at home. Jiyan and Yinlin’s Story Quests were really good.

1st time if you play older gotcha games this is better just play wuwa

Lose to koleda, the worst outcome for my account I'd say😂

Lmao, no.

Hope you mean among the hoyo games. Because, you know, Path to Nowhere exists

Idk dude, i just died in hallow zero a while ago even tho I'm very much not bad, and I was fluffing the dps check, some bosses definitely do hit alot and punish you fro not dodging and parrying everything correctly, however i believe your judgment is very early on, and the game is purposefully introducing things casually in the story gameplay as well as just early on, even monsters do behave differently in story trails and attack less and so, just progress deep enough and you'll find what satisfies you for sure, idk why is a game being judged for it's difficulty within 3 days of release

This simply isnt true especially for S-Defense

The real issue is have you even cleared the standard S-Defence and reach the weekly refresh yet?

@@PyriteZ Like they said its a dps check.

Please go and face tank one of the weekly bosses and tell us how it went.

Hoyo doesn't always deliver cinema. They did in all of their title with "honkai" but Genshin feels like an abandoned game.

​@@LargeBanana Genshin feels like an abandoned game 😂😂😂 meanwhile genshin has the largest playerpool by a huge margin and we going to 5.0 ❤

@@dimitristakis6396 It still feels like an abandoned game. What do you want me to say, the company can abandon a game while people are still playing. They then proceed to put the lowest effort possible everytime to keep you playing. I'm a day 1 player, still playing today. I have not spent resin for months because there is no need. Let's be real now. Genshin made Hoyo who they are, but compare the effort in story telling and everything else in ZZZ compared to Genshin. Don't be a blind fanboy.

@@LargeBanana i disagree i dont feel abandoned on genshin at all , its a single player game i wont complain about wishes they give us and all that i have irl problems. The depth of the lore is peak compared to other gachas ( and i mean every gacha in existence ). Also now that there is a rivalry between the 3 hoyo games that is only going to improve each of them ♥️ gamers are just a greedy species, we do not even know what we want in a game yet we still complain EACH AND EVERY TIME.

@@LargeBanana hi3 made hoyo who they are and allowed genshin budget. they are still working on the game but not on the things that some people are expecting of them. it still has interesting story, world building and fights too, even if they are more casual. long time players already figured out the game and ez clear everything - this eventually happens to all games where people spend hundreds of hours. a lot of people want easy clear, that's why majority of popular games are easy in nature

Bro the max level was 60

@jayden6537 exactly in ZZZ most of us are 40 and the max is either 60 or 70 I haven't checked. The comparison does not make sense

@@cristianalfonso7594 it’s just that the max in Wuwu is 90 and he’s talking about level 40 enemies